Why is there next to no development for the 713? - Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was just wondering why there's so little development for the 713? It seems like such a great tablet for the price.

Because everybody who would've gotten a Tab S2 got the Exynos variant

Lightn1ng said:
Because everybody who would've gotten a Tab S2 got the Exynos variant
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I wasn't even aware I had a choice. The only one they had at best buy was the 713 or the 9.7" which I believe has the SD652 also. Oh well, this tablet seems really good as is. I guess I'll just wait and hope Samsung brings 7.0 to it.

pda48428 said:
I wasn't even aware I had a choice. The only one they had at best buy was the 713 or the 9.7" which I believe has the SD652 also. Oh well, this tablet seems really good as is. I guess I'll just wait and hope Samsung brings 7.0 to it.
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Don't get too down mate, me and another guy are working on cyanogenmod for it

The snapdragon is better and an welcome update mind

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[Q] Should i buy a Galaxy Tab?

The topic says it all, with the current state of the tablet world, and understanding that when the Transformer Prime and its generation of tablets comes out the Gtab7 will be 2 generations behind, should i buy one ?
I can get one 2nd hand, for 150€ wifi+3g.
Is it worth it ?
if you can find one for a decent price, i'd say go for it... it might be worth checking the model of the one you want to buy to make sure developers support it if thats what you are after.
i just recently bought myself a galaxy tab 7 and im sure i'll get tons of use out of it. its such a nice size and portable, and the expericne is comparable to my phone, so nothing its too foreign like it is going from froyo to honeycomb or something.
i figure i'll keep this one until they come out with some decent 7 inch icecream sandwich tablets and i'll sell it and buy one of those. but i dont see one coming out that will thrill me much until at least mid next year.
i bought mine for about that same price (but in USD), honestly for me the instant i saw the deal it was far too good for me to resist.
dav3yb said:
if you can find one for a decent price, i'd say go for it... it might be worth checking the model of the one you want to buy to make sure developers support it if thats what you are after.
i just recently bought myself a galaxy tab 7 and im sure i'll get tons of use out of it. its such a nice size and portable, and the expericne is comparable to my phone, so nothing its too foreign like it is going from froyo to honeycomb or something.
i figure i'll keep this one until they come out with some decent 7 inch icecream sandwich tablets and i'll sell it and buy one of those. but i dont see one coming out that will thrill me much until at least mid next year.
i bought mine for about that same price (but in USD), honestly for me the instant i saw the deal it was far too good for me to resist.
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I already own a HD2 (work phone) and a DHD (private phone), so the Tab will be a complement to this ecosystem. I like it not being too big, and yet not too small.
We can find tons of 7inch tablets, bat all of them have the same resolution has my phones, and i wish to AVOID pixels
Performance wise, is it still on par? Can i throw it the same things i can on my DHD ?
How do you expect the ICS support to be? We're talking about samsung turf, and they're currently the "good guys" on google eyes, so the systems will always be similar. Yet i remain renitent... I hope others will comment this thread
well if you are looking at the one of the first generations of galaxy tabs (the ones that come with android 2.2), then i think samsung will not officially be releasing ICS on it. however there are some people who are working on porting ICS to the tab. You can find more on that in the development section.
I have a samsung galaxy s, SCH-I500, same as the fascinate on verizons network i think...
the phone and the tab have nearly identical specs, but the tab does feel much smoother. probably due to the increased ram it has.
one thing you can always consider though. 200$ is a good deal, and for what you can buy it for, if it turns out you cant achieve the experience you want on it... how hard will it be to just turn over to someone for the cost you paid? or even a bit more?
i cant really speak for the hd2 or desire hd phones, as i've not played with either. but i suspect the fact that you'll be using the tablet for different purposes would still make it a good buy. so far i think all the apps i have on my phone have ported over to my tab with no issues, seeing as how its pretty much the same OS version.
dav3yb said:
well if you are looking at the one of the first generations of galaxy tabs (the ones that come with android 2.2), then i think samsung will not officially be releasing ICS on it. however there are some people who are working on porting ICS to the tab. You can find more on that in the development section.
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Yes, i'm talking about the original Galaxy Tab. Not the new ones with Honeycomb
dav3yb said:
I have a samsung galaxy s, SCH-I500, same as the fascinate on verizons network i think...
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I'm in Europe, so no name mumbo jumbo for me. We have the Galaxy S, and the Galaxy S2. No Fascinates or whatever Verizon/Sprint/ATT/Tmouse chooses
(Thank god for that...)
dav3yb said:
the phone and the tab have nearly identical specs, but the tab does feel much smoother. probably due to the increased ram it has.
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I've come to accept that RAM is a major player on this OS. It's memory freak, but above a certain point, it's pointless of course (just like a PC).
As it stands, on 2.3.x, anything above 1gb is too much
dav3yb said:
one thing you can always consider though. 200$ is a good deal, and for what you can buy it for, if it turns out you cant achieve the experience you want on it... how hard will it be to just turn over to someone for the cost you paid? or even a bit more?
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200€ is a little too much above my budget. 150€ is the most i'll give, expecially for something that's probably 1 year old (i don't mean the release data, i mean the warranty)
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i cant really speak for the hd2 or desire hd phones, as i've not played with either. but i suspect the fact that you'll be using the tablet for different purposes would still make it a good buy. so far i think all the apps i have on my phone have ported over to my tab with no issues, seeing as how its pretty much the same OS version.
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I WOULD be using the tablet. It got sold (bummer) minutes after the OP.
Pitty.... but i'll keep looking...
ah... sorry about the dollar amount... i was doing a rough conversion. 150 euros is about 200 us dollars.
that's something that was kind of getting me discouraged about my search for a 7inch. the lowest price i found before the one i bought was i think 330 USD, which is about 100 more euros than your budget.
thats why the minute i saw the deal, i jumped on it right away.
one thing that seems to be unanimous though, is try and stay away from the wifi only versions of the tab, as they lack in updates (even from samsung), and have little to no 3rd party development.
dav3yb said:
ah... sorry about the dollar amount... i was doing a rough conversion. 150 euros is about 200 us dollars.
that's something that was kind of getting me discouraged about my search for a 7inch. the lowest price i found before the one i bought was i think 330 USD, which is about 100 more euros than your budget.
thats why the minute i saw the deal, i jumped on it right away.
one thing that seems to be unanimous though, is try and stay away from the wifi only versions of the tab, as they lack in updates (even from samsung), and have little to no 3rd party development.
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Message received and understood! No wifi.
Don't apolagize, i'm the one that should be.
Still, 150€/$200 is a very nice deal, i hope i can find one again.
BTW, how hard is it to sim unlock this things ?
i couldnt tell you how easy it is to sim unlock the tab... mine is a verizon wireless version, and they dont take sim cards... and i think its locked into their network.
GSM tabs are easy to unlock. Search the forums.
I've actually. Bought 3 of the original 7" tabs recently, all at or below $200 CDN. All were mint condition.
Why 3? Well. Friends keep wanting in on the great deal
The Galaxy tab, while older is still very capable. Compare it to the kindle fire or nook color at around the same price point.
Slap CM 7.1 or CM 9 and you're in a good spot.
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[Q] Samsung Galaxy Note i717R or GT-N7000

Hello all,
I recently bought Samsung Galaxy Note i717R from someone and I got it unlocked to use with Bell Mobility.
I've rooted the phone and it feels that the phone lags sometimes. I don't even have much installed. In fact I had much more stuff installed on my previous SGS2! Even the batter life is poor than what I was getting on my S2. (4 hrs vs 2 hrs screen time). I'm not complaining about battery life. Just stating my results.
Anyways, my question is wether I should sell the i717R model and buy the International (N7000) model. I've heard/read stuff that the International version is way better than the devices provided by AT&T, Bell, Rogers etc. Is it true? OR
am I better off staying with my i717R.
Selling the i717R isn't a problem, and neither is buying the N7000! I'm sure I will get it for the same price!
Please suggest...
Thanks!
Do it. I switched and am incredibly happy. I love the home button too.
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octavian90 said:
Do it. I switched and am incredibly happy. I love the home button too.
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Awesome, a few more responses and my decision will be firm!
Thanks for your reply!
Definitely go for N7000!
Yes definitely N7000! I purchase i717 at first too but within days I returned it and purchase N7000. I'm extremely happy with the decision. No lags what so ever and home button is so useful.
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I had a I717 before (AT&T model). The phone lagged so much I sold it on the same day I bought it and ordered the N7000. Best decision ever.
Though the N7000 lacks LTE and NFC, the development (ROMS, etc), Exynos processor, and the physical "home" button makes-up for it.
Go for the intl. Note N7000. I have one and I am EXTREMELY happy with it. Although I haven't had a chance to experience the i717 version of the Note, I can say that there is so much available for flashing the note and rooting. And the Exynos Proccy and the physical home button should just about seal the deal. Just check the Android Development thread of the N7000 to understand what I am talking about. Keep us posted on your decision
Cheers,
Kaushik
Any update? I live in Montreal, I'm wondering which Note would be best to get. I don't exactly know the differences other than LTE and not-LTE.
superspacey said:
Any update? I live in Montreal, I'm wondering which Note would be best to get. I don't exactly know the differences other than LTE and not-LTE.
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processor makes the biggest difference. snapdragon on LTE is slow and exynos is faster.

[Q] Upgrading to a Samsung LTE phone

My current phone is the Samsung Galaxy S3 9300 and am using it here in the Philippines. LTE was just launched today and unfortunately my phone doesn't support LTE. I want to upgrade to an LTE phone that would cost me the least amount of money. Is it ok to just upgrade to the 9305 or would it be wiser to wait for the S4?
I hope you guys can give me advices here. Thanks.
What are their price?
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anguslaw said:
What are their price?
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Which ones?
wait for the i9500
anguslaw said:
What are their price?
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Glebun said:
wait for the i9500
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Why so? How's the pricing of it though?
why? compare the specs and you'll know why right away
Glebun said:
wait for the i9500
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He asked for LTE so i9505......
kevindd992002 said:
Why so? How's the pricing of it though?
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I9305= Value for money
I9505= Better phone
It's down to your wallet.....
Next week I'll have them both waiting for i9505...
djembey said:
He asked for LTE so i9505......
I9305= Value for money
I9505= Better phone
It's down to your wallet.....
Next week I'll have them both waiting for i9505...
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Oh ok You mean there are also two varieties of the new S4? 9500 and 9505? What are the differences of both aside from the latter having LTE support?
nooo, not the i9505, that's the snapdragon version. you need the i9500, which has samsung's eight core exynos, and it supports LTE
djembey said:
He asked for LTE so i9505......
I9305= Value for money
I9505= Better phone
It's down to your wallet.....
Next week I'll have them both waiting for i9505...
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nooo, not the i9505, that's the snapdragon version. you need the i9500, which has samsung's eight core exynos, and it supports LTE
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Ah ok. So the 9500 is better than 9505?
yes. it's not officially available in the US or UK though
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Why so? How's the pricing of it though?
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What are both of the s3 and s4 prices i mean.
In HK, the I9305 ( samsung galaxy s3 lte) costs around US$500 while galaxy s4 costs around US$756.
In this case, the price difference is US$256.
then you analyse if this is worthy to buy galaxy s4.
The battery is bigger ( volume) in S4 - but we all have portable charger, who cares!
The S4 monitor is bigger ( 0.2inch) then S3 - seriously, not much difference
The S4 monitor can display 1080HD, while S3 can display 720HD- Both are HD. For a big screen, like 50inch TV, you could notice the difference of 1080 and 720. However, come on, we are talking a 4 to 5 inch monitor and you were not an eagle ( with good eye sight), you couldn't notice the difference.
The S4 has more "floating " functions-- hahah, this function is funny, imagine how difficult you place your finger on top of the screen while not touching it while you are on a bus or while you are walking , moving , etc. What a brilliant functions hahaha.
And at the end of the day , will you spend that US$256 to buy the aboe mentioned "pros"?
Glebun said:
yes. it's not officially available in the US or UK though
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Wait, which one isn't available in the US/UK?
I thought Samsung usually uses a numbering scheme that means a higher number is better than a lower one? In the case of the S3, i9305 is better than the i9300. Why did it change in S4 (i9500 is better than i9505)?
anguslaw said:
What are both of the s3 and s4 prices i mean.
In HK, the I9305 ( samsung galaxy s3 lte) costs around US$500 while galaxy s4 costs around US$756.
In this case, the price difference is US$256.
then you analyse if this is worthy to buy galaxy s4.
The battery is bigger ( volume) in S4 - but we all have portable charger, who cares!
The S4 monitor is bigger ( 0.2inch) then S3 - seriously, not much difference
The S4 monitor can display 1080HD, while S3 can display 720HD- Both are HD. For a big screen, like 50inch TV, you could notice the difference of 1080 and 720. However, come on, we are talking a 4 to 5 inch monitor and you were not an eagle ( with good eye sight), you couldn't notice the difference.
The S4 has more "floating " functions-- hahah, this function is funny, imagine how difficult you place your finger on top of the screen while not touching it while you are on a bus or while you are walking , moving , etc. What a brilliant functions hahaha.
And at the end of the day , will you spend that US$256 to buy the aboe mentioned "pros"?
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Good points. I do care a lot about the battery life though. And the S4 is much faster than the S3, right?
kevindd992002 said:
Wait, which one isn't available in the US/UK?
I thought Samsung usually uses a numbering scheme that means a higher number is better than a lower one? In the case of the S3, i9305 is better than the i9300. Why did it change in S4 (i9500 is better than i9505)?
Good points. I do care a lot about the battery life though. And the S4 is much faster than the S3, right?
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Yes, faster but not noticeable.
Then you buy the bigger battery with 256 us dollars
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i9500 is not available in the US/UK, and it's better. I've explained why above
Glebun said:
i9500 is not available in the US/UK, and it's better. I've explained why above
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Alright. Do both have LTE support though?
yes AFAIK. A google search will tell you for sure
Glebun said:
i9500 is not available in the US/UK, and it's better. I've explained why above
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Glebun said:
yes AFAIK. A google search will tell you for sure
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Based on what I just read in another thread, the 9500 DOES NOT SUPPORT LTE. Only the 9505 does, so that's one thing to consider when choosing between the two.
so yeah, as I said, should've googled it. It DOES support LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9500_galaxy_s4-5125.php
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so yeah, as I said, should've googled it. It DOES support LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9500_galaxy_s4-5125.php
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That information there is wrong. There are very many people in this forum that already confirmed that there are three variants of the S4. The GT-I9500, the GT-9505, and the SHV-E300S/K.
GT-I9500 - Exynos (Octa-core) CPU, no LTE support
GT-I9505 - Snapdragon 600 (Quad-core), with LTE support
SHV-E300S/K - Exynos (Octa-core) CPU, with LTE support
Here's a long thread on it for your reference: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2210169

[Q] Tablet upgrade time, which one to get?

So I think is time for me to get a new tablet :crying: (ipad no thanks).
So based on aaaaaaaaall the things we have around on the market which tablet could be the upgrade ?
I was searching for something with flash for the camera, not to big not to small.(7" is small, 10" is big)
This tablet was perfect for my needs but I think its time to move one.
Any idea suggestions
I dont want to blow off money
pipechaves said:
So I think is time for me to get a new tablet :crying: (ipad no thanks).
So based on aaaaaaaaall the things we have around on the market which tablet could be the upgrade ?
I was searching for something with flash for the camera, not to big not to small.(7" is small, 10" is big)
This tablet was perfect for my needs but I think its time to move one.
Any idea suggestions
I dont want to blow off money
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Personally Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 is the best in size and in performance and it was released in 2014 that makes it very up-to-date
If I wonna replace my tab,, it would be this awesome 8.4 tab:victory::victory:
omarainea said:
Personally Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 is the best in size and in performance and it was released in 2014 that makes it very up-to-date
If I wonna replace my tab,, it would be this awesome 8.4 tab:victory::victory:
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I like that one, I didnt know about the 8.4, ufff 400$ hmmmmm thats expensive I was thinking more like 300
Thank you !!!
omarainea said:
Personally Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 is the best in size and in performance and it was released in 2014 that makes it very up-to-date
If I wonna replace my tab,, it would be this awesome 8.4 tab:victory::victory:
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Does it have Knox on it? Looking for a new tablet too but won't get anything with Knox on it
pipechaves said:
I like that one, I didnt know about the 8.4, ufff 400$ hmmmmm thats expensive I was thinking more like 300
Thank you !!!
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Just googled it and it's a good tablet, though price is hefty. I'll wait for the Nexus 8 later this year. In the mean time, I'll stick to my P7300 and P7500.
iZLeeP said:
Just googled it and it's a good tablet, though price is hefty. I'll wait for the Nexus 8 later this year. In the mean time, I'll stick to my P7300 and P7500.
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That's what I'm kind of waiting for too, the nexus 8. Love my nexus 5
jd1639 said:
That's what I'm kind of waiting for too, the nexus 8. Love my nexus 5
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I both own nexus 7 1st & 2nd gens but later sold it as size is too small. The Tab 8.9 is perfect for me, I wonder why Samsung discontinued it. So I'm looking forward to the nexus 8.
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I both own nexus 7 1st & 2nd gens but later sold it as size is too small. The Tab 8.9 is perfect for me, I wonder why Samsung discontinued it. So I'm looking forward to the nexus 8.
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I thought the size was perfect too. I have an i957 but want something newer
I agree the tab pro 8.4 sounds like a good device. Convenient size and good specs. I would also look at the less expensive LG 8.3. Still, I feel my 8.9 LTE with dual core 1.5 GHz is aging with grace. Better performance and UI with CM10 and Nova launcer, great browser performance with UA set to mobile
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hondax said:
I agree the tab pro 8.4 sounds like a good device. Convenient size and good specs. I would also look at the less expensive LG 8.3. Still, I feel my 8.9 LTE with dual core 1.5 GHz is aging with grace. Better performance and UI with CM10 and Nova launcer, great browser performance with UA set to mobile
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Yes, it is quite tempting to buy a new device as replacement, but with the way manufacturers roll their products, I may have to put off purchasing a new one until I really get a good deal out of it. So far, my old P7300 and P7500 is still up to the task even games with heavy graphics.
i think that tab pro 8.4 and note 8.0 are the best now,
it has good size and performance!
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Galaxy s10 plus vs 6T...thoughts?

Based off of what we know so far is there anyone contemplating acquiring this phone over the beloved 6T?
Pre ordering Monday for sure [emoji16]
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coming from s7 to op6t, i would say:
if you're planning to switch to samsung, buy s9/s9+. otherwise stay on op6t.
since you're here, you know what custom roms are. and if you're a cfw-lover (AOSP/LOS-based) like me, you cant switch to a newer samsung phone because it will takes a half/whole year (#ExynosSux).
lladwein said:
coming from s7 to op6t, i would say:
if you're planning to switch to samsung, buy s9/s9+. otherwise stay on op6t.
since you're here, you know what custom roms are. and if you're a cfw-lover (AOSP/LOS-based) like me, you cant switch to a newer samsung phone because it will takes a half/whole year (#ExynosSux).
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I have had the Note 8, S9, S9+ and the Note 9 already and I really don't mess with changing ROMS any longer so for me those things you mentioned aren't a really big factor me. But I can appreciate your feedback!
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I have had the Note 8, S9, S9+ and the Note 9 already and I really don't mess with changing ROMS any longer so for me those things you mentioned aren't a really big factor me. But I can appreciate your feedback!
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so then go for it. Its a good phone. For me not so much difference to the s9/+ but still a sammy phone (myself a sammy fanboy / ive had s2, s3, Note 2 ,s5, s7)
I had the Note, 1,2,4,7,8 and galaxy S6 and galaxy s6 edge. Somewhere in between I had the Axon 7 after the Note 7 debacle.
I have to say I have not loved a phone like my first smartphone the iPhone 3g and the original phablet the Dell Streak.
All that has changed once I got the OnePlus 6T. This phone is great and most of all the software experience is top notch. I hated the Samsung phones always slown down after time. I am glad I made the change to the OnePlus. If I upgrade this year it will be to the OnePlus 7T. :laugh:
Only to be outdone by some other phone in 2-3 months, then THAT phone will be outdone in 2-3 months and so on.
If you have the OP6T, or pretty much any phone in the last couple of years, and, you haven't jacked it up by screwing
with something you don't know how to do, and it is working properly, why waste your money on a SMALL improvement
in performance, that 99% of users won't see, unless they are stuck in benchmarks.
Ummm..... This device has it's own forum already. So why don't you go post these questions there instead.
gthmcty1 said:
Based off of what we know so far is there anyone contemplating acquiring this phone over the beloved 6T?
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Nope.
Hole in the screen of the plus is worse than a notch.
The price is outrageous.
It's Samsung and you won't get updates.
It's Samsung and they don't like unlocked BL.
Finally, it's Samsung.
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Nope.
Hole in the screen of the plus is worse than a notch.
The price is outrageous.
It's Samsung and you won't get updates.
It's Samsung and they don't like unlocked BL.
Finally, it's Samsung.
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LMAO....ok then!
I came to the 6T from an S9+. I have no regrets at all!
I had the first Galaxy S. Felt completely let down by Samsung's so called upgrades that made the phone less and less usable. I swore to never get a Samsung, so no, not getting one
I always hated Samsung but the new UI is rather nice.
Had the S7 Edge while the specs were nice the OS is still garbage and waiting 6 months for Major update after it's pushed to AOSP it a joke.. Especially when you pay top $..
And Exynos is inferior to SnapDragon + basically any dev support for the SoC sucks..
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It's a hard no for me. That hole punch that cuts into videos and of course the price tag. I'd go back to the S9 or G7 or V40.
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Nope.
Hole in the screen of the plus is worse than a notch.
The price is outrageous.
It's Samsung and you won't get updates.
It's Samsung and they don't like unlocked BL.
Finally, it's Samsung.
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Basically my thoughts lol.
Same old. Nothing really new or exciting . anything good will be on most of the phones this year anyway . And the double cut out is horrible. Much worse than a teardrop notch
The camera takes good photos based off people opinions, I like the different colored backs, fingerprint scanner is interesting, the camera punch is an interesting take on the notch (would be painful to see it during full screen video), price is outrageous, 1tb of storage only supported on certain devices (and is it really needed), and the One UI I could get into. The price alone will keep me away from it, although I am tempted to trade in my iPhone X for it.
Really interested in the fold. The concept of having a foldable tablet captures my attention but will see what other companies come up with and life cycle of a niche product.
Anytime you want to buy something new you might want to ask yourself:
1: Do I need it?
2: Is it worth it (usually involves money)?
3: What i am ok with if I look the other way?
Thank me later if you can answer on this 3 simple questions. Some people are hard fans some people haters. People in the middle go to OnePlus lol which brings them back to that circle anyway because they become fans or haters and there are people in the middle. I call it "circle of lifetime death". Whatever you go with it should be important to you only because in the end you are the one who will be using it.
I have been OnePlus user since day 1 (OnePlus One) because they made affordable devices and currently I am using 6T. For my own perspective I do like the new Samsung S10 line but it is not really worth the money for me.
Does it come with a lanyard to put through that hole so you can carry your phone with it?
Oh nevermind that's for the camera.
The hole punch design is the worst thing ever, it just looks so out of place.

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