I installed Fr19, but it seems slower than on Stock... I even get slight stuttering in Fruit Ninja THD...
Anyone with the same problem? Or even solution? Thx
yes i experienced the same. What i did was to reflash again, then reboot twice so that the memory is cleaned. When i experienced that, I checked that my available memory was only less than 80mb. But after i reboot again the 2nd time, the memory was around 150mb. that's when it started to work normally. And you can even use Auto memory killer downloaded from market.
Okay I tried your method, maybe it's a bit better, but still slower then stock...
Even the gallery is slow, doesn't look good, when the pinch zoom, and swiping through my pictures is stuttering... However it didn't do this way on stock...
Even on quadrant i never get over 2700...
Edit... now I made 5 quadrant measures i got scores 2100-2400... even worse then stock...
please, can someone help me?
So I made all kinds of wipes possible, then reflashed, then restored just the user apps with titanium backup, now it's good, it isn't stuttering anymore
all kind of wipes? please explain..
all that i could find in cwm, data/factory reset, cache, dalvik cache, battery stats...
Hi,
U am wondering why do people advise to perform couple of reboots before custom roms start working optimally. I am a bit computer engineer and I can't imagine, what can happen after e.g. third reboot, that didn't happen before (unless you provide reboot counter), and what could speed up the device (or something).
Can anyone elaborate it?
Well... One time makes sense. You install new things, for them to fully activate a restart hence the reboot is logical. May be there is something to it that i don't know but i don't see how multiple reboots help... Some hardware becomes optimized after used for a while but software... Interesting. I'd like to know too. A
Well, when you shift to a new rom, the dev always insist to wipe the dalvik cache for clean install. So, at first boot, it is built. But after the first boot, when the system loads to a working state, all the services are automatically configured as per their functions and defaults. I mean, not the configuration of an app, but the settings and services (and perhaps their cache files as well)..... which should be playing a major impact, so that after next boot this doesn't repeat and device load fully optimized all the next reboots.
This may also be correlated as to why very often you don't need to wipe dalvik cache while upgrading existing rom; but you should always while trying a different rom.
cmiiw.
I agree that I dont quite understand why that is the case but it seems to help.
I gree too...
But it just me or anybody else feels diffrent -in term of good way- after couple of reboot. it just make my zeus work optimal especially in battery efficiency.
Hello,
I've updated my Nexus 7 first-gen recently to Android 5.0 and since than have spent a good amount of time using it. I use the tablet for work and fun through out my whole day, so snappiness is a big factor for me. With the 4.4 update, the tablet just got a lot slower, sometimes I needed to wait for a few seconds before I am able to kill a task. Clearing cache didn't fix the issue.
Made me think about that 5.0 update a lot. (Note that I actively started using the tablet only a few months ago. I had it for 2 years but broke the screen 3 weeks after buying it and only now I decided to repair it.)
The 5.0 update it self took a good 45 minutes. When I loaded it up for the first time, man it was buggy, I couldn't complete a single task without it bugging out. All of the Apps and settings were there untouched. The first thing I did, was go into recovery mode and cleared the cache. Then I cleared the cache for every individual app. And that boosted the performance by 100%. Next, the animations, I cut them down to 0.5x and turned on GPU rendering (just for testing) turns out that helped out a lot. I didn't notice a difference in load times, like some articles suggested.
However there are a few quirks, the sound lags behind the slider, so if I crank up the volume to MAX it will take a moment to do so. I often found my self having to tap the apps drawer button more than once to open it. And the killing of tasks is not as easy as before, now you have to slide from one side to the other in order to kill a task you can't just kick it to the side. Also, the auto-brightness is really aggressive so I disabled that. The WiFi status, when you click on a WiFi connection seems to be broken since in portrait mode all the letters are separated, and at first I couldn't make out any of it. And the biggest downer for me is the keyboard, I think they didn't do any favors with it. I have larger thumbs and it will take some time getting used to the keyboard. These are all small things, but they affect my experience.
Now the good stuff, where do I begin? The interface, it's great I like the design and the contrasts. Performance, I guess that's the biggest question since this is not exactly cutting edge hardware. To summarize it, it's good. I haven't had any issues since I cleared the cache, apps are running as they should, games as well, multitasking is as expected, fluid. Later on I switched the animations to 1.5x and 2.5x. no issues there. Boot up times, something completely irrelevant to me, but since there are people that would like to know, it takes around 30-40 seconds to boot up. However, Chrome is still the biggest enemy. If you want something to make your tablet miserable and make you wait and get frustrated because of it's unresponsiveness, you won't need to search far, just get Chrome.
All in all, the update was a step up, and an improvement.
These were my 2 cents on the subject. Hope it was of use to someone.
thanks for the review. I also updated a few days ago when the ota came through. So far, I'm experiencing terrible lag. I don't have anything stored on the N7 and don't have many apps. There is a ton of available storage on my 32gb. I did a factory rest about 3 months ago, as I like to every now and then to give the N7 a fresh start. I think I may have to yet again and keep my fingers crossed. Unfortunately, it's unusable at this point.
My experience has been variable, but not unexpected. In the past I have had issues with installing OTAs resulting in poor performance -- sluggish response to touch, certain apps immediately displayed odd lag, etc. Going from 4.4.4 to 5.0 was no different. So, I performed a factory reset and the effects were stark. The performance is exactly where you would expect it to be for Lollipop i.e. it is smooth.
HOWEVER, all is not well. There seems to be a set of problems that I suspect is related to Lollipop utilizing the ART runtime. Certain apps, even before performing a factory reset, were really really slow when running the first time. I have experienced this before: when I tried out ART when it became available on the Galaxy Nexus. Two common apps this occurs with are Facebook and Mint. Who's to blame? The app developers? Google? Don't know but hopefully these issues get resolved soon.
alphabets said:
thanks for the review. I also updated a few days ago when the ota came through. So far, I'm experiencing terrible lag. I don't have anything stored on the N7 and don't have many apps. There is a ton of available storage on my 32gb. I did a factory rest about 3 months ago, as I like to every now and then to give the N7 a fresh start. I think I may have to yet again and keep my fingers crossed. Unfortunately, it's unusable at this point.
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Ugh, that is quite an issue. Have you tried wiping the cache? You should check your usage, you might be able to find out what's hogging your system, unless it's the OS it self.
AuroEdge said:
My experience has been variable, but not unexpected. In the past I have had issues with installing OTAs resulting in poor performance -- sluggish response to touch, certain apps immediately displayed odd lag, etc. Going from 4.4.4 to 5.0 was no different. So, I performed a factory reset and the effects were stark. The performance is exactly where you would expect it to be for Lollipop i.e. it is smooth.
HOWEVER, all is not well. There seems to be a set of problems that I suspect is related to Lollipop utilizing the ART runtime. Certain apps, even before performing a factory reset, were really really slow when running the first time. I have experienced this before: when I tried out ART when it became available on the Galaxy Nexus. Two common apps this occurs with are Facebook and Mint. Who's to blame? The app developers? Google? Don't know but hopefully these issues get resolved soon.
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I also tried out the ART on some devices, mine were not even supported. There were a lot crashes but I also noticed some performance improvements.
Does factory reset also wipe the cache?
My Lollipop experience with my 16 GB WiFi-only Grouper isn't as good as yours. First, I thought I messed something up by rooting it with NRT, but after a manual factory image (flash-all.bat failed out of the box) without root it didn't get any better.
Most time its not as responsive as my N5, I've already had 1-2 minute hangs followed by hung apps (Google Search/GNL, system in most cases) and heavy lagging under most conditions. From time to time its getting close to 75-80% of the smoothness experienced on the N5 (which has better hardware, of course).
I have no idea what went wrong, I've already enabled 2D GPU hardware acceleration, but I'll definitely wipe the cache in recovery once more - you never know...
Thanks for the extensive review - Chrome is just a pain in the a** if you don't have at least 2 GB memory available.
iolinux333 said:
Does factory reset also wipe the cache?
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I suggest wiping cache, because you get to keep your apps and settings.
DoNuT_1985 said:
My Lollipop experience with my 16 GB WiFi-only Grouper isn't as good as yours. First, I thought I messed something up by rooting it with NRT, but after a manual factory image (flash-all.bat failed out of the box) without root it didn't get any better.
Most time its not as responsive as my N5, I've already had 1-2 minute hangs followed by hung apps (Google Search/GNL, system in most cases) and heavy lagging under most conditions. From time to time its getting close to 75-80% of the smoothness experienced on the N5 (which has better hardware, of course).
I have no idea what went wrong, I've already enabled 2D GPU hardware acceleration, but I'll definitely wipe the cache in recovery once more - you never know...
Thanks for the extensive review - Chrome is just a pain in the a** if you don't have at least 2 GB memory available.
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One thing I forgot to mention is that after the cache wipe the tablet was fairly fast but I also went into Settings > Storage, and noticed I have a lot of app data which frankly shouldn't be that much. I then went and cleared cache manually on every app and as it turns out, I managed to scrape off another 1GB there. So, I'm not sure how that would affect the overhaul system performance but it sure helped me get the snappiness I have right now.
Looks like wiping the cache had an impact on performance. I wasn't able to play around much, but it definitely felt faster after first reboot.
Too bad I just noticed my user partion only had 6,x GB (8 GB image obviously) - there are so many ways you could f**k up an Android system - so I'll have to format user data once more, approximately the third or fourth time in the last week.
Sometimes I understand why people fancy those awful Apple devices, but let's hope the speed boost persists.
Go in and delete all the apps in system folder that can be installed from play store and are not needed. After installing the lollipop images you have 11mb in system which seems to be main cause of lag. I freed up like 160 mb and no lag or stuttering. Not sure why google kept things like dialer and other things unusable on the tablet in there.
Also get now launcher and delete launcher.
For even better performance get faux kernel (Set kernel up to his recommendations) and/or install aosp 5.0 F2FS with minimal 5.0 gapps.
Oh I do have a problem with WiFi being weaker on 5.0 though.
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i am getting terrible lag too. last week i updated with the OTA file. wiping the cache improved performance but only for a short time. i guess eventually if ii want the speed back on my 2012 nexus 7 i am going to have to root and go back to jellybean
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Go in and delete all the apps in system folder that can be installed from play store and are not needed. After installing the lollipop images you have 11mb in system which seems to be main cause of lag. I freed up like 160 mb and no lag or stuttering. Not sure why google kept things like dialer and other things unusable on the tablet in there.
Also get now launcher and delete launcher.
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Thanks, that sped up things significantly. It's definitely a memory problem, because event on full stock setup you're getting glances of Lollipop smoothness.
But WTH is Google delivering a potentially lagging factory image? Couldn't they just resize /system by default in order to fit in all apps nicely? Well, that's Android - if it doesn't work, you have tons of options to fix it.
After my old N7 screen broke, I got a new refurbished 16GB unit for about US$100.
Had some bootloader issue earlier while trying to flash lollipop, and had to revert back to 4.2.2. Then it got all the OTA up to lollipop, and is running really well since.
Loving it now, better than most non-lollipop newer tablets around...
Lollipop is big disappointment. I hate new notification (double swipe down to access settings)
I am back on 4.4.4 Slimkat rom with Legokernel and f2fs
now is system smooth without lags
Listening to some of the advice in this thread, I rebooted into Recovery and wiped cache (I did it 3 times, because why not, right?)
In addition, I went into the developer settings and turned OFF "Force GPU".
After doing both of those, my performance seems to have greatly improved (specifically Chrome, which was borderline unusable).
For reference, I flashed the factory image from 4.4.4, and didn't get it OTA.
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Sometimes I understand why people fancy those awful Apple devices, but let's hope the speed boost persists.
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Not any more! I have three new iOS devices and things are far, far worse since iOS 8 dropped. Apple now holds the lag crown. At least with Android you can revert back to earlier versions that worked. With Apple all you can do is whimper at the master's feet.
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Go in and delete all the apps in system folder that can be installed from play store and are not needed. After installing the lollipop images you have 11mb in system which seems to be main cause of lag. I freed up like 160 mb and no lag or stuttering.
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UTTER nonsense. Stop it. System being full affects nothing; it's read-only.
Is there a way to disable the storage encryption that is enabled by default? Disabling this apparently had huge performance upgrade for the nexus 6
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Lollipop is big disappointment. I hate new notification (double swipe down to access settings)
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Swipe once with two fingers.
I've done cleaned every thing in this ROM, repeatedly. Hopefully CM 12 will make it work!
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UTTER nonsense. Stop it. System being full affects nothing; it's read-only.
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understand what you are saying but after doing so i have no lag.
Have 2 x 2012 and both were lagging. After trying other things i deleted stuff in system and both are very smooth now. Very happy with them.
Even wiped and re installed one and just deleted stuff in system, to make sure it wasn't something else or a combo of things i did prior.
I changed my rom last year, from stock 5.1 to cyanogenmod 12.1 running android 5.1.1.
First I want to tell you my experience with my moto x. At first, although the battery was pretty bad, it was the only downside to it. When I bought it, it was on android 4.4.2 (I think). And it worked very well, it was fast and fluid. So after a while, the motorola forced all the time the android 5 update, which I did not want to do. But I gave up and did. From there, my RAM was always full at 70%, I had delay, it got much less fluid experience. I switched to cyanogenmod, because the internal storage space was tiny, it was my only alternative. I earned my storage space. A week ago i discovered that the voice recorder does not work on this rom, when I had to record a class on a class. Some options inside settings crashes, and close by themselves. The phone started to crash and reboot itself. I've added numerous apks from suspicious sources. I uninstalled all my applications and 5 gbs of internal space is still being taken. The memory is always 90% occupied. I can not put many application shortcuts on the desktop or the phone gets even slower. I recently discovered that recovery is no longer working. I can not access the twrp. i tried to flash twrp again, but when i use the recovery option, it just boot the phone again. I think he's corrupted. Root no longer works. I can not play pokemon go even with magisk installed. The camera image is also strange, it has several black spots as if it were dirty. So I gave up the rom. But I do not know what rom to install. I wanted some ROM based on Android 4.4.2 and it was as fast and stable as possible. I'm multi-tasking and I leave many apps open at the same time. I want some definitive rom so I'll never need to change rom again.
Since the update to Android 12/OneUI4 my S22U has on at least 4 occasions gone into a full hard lockup / non-responsive and needed to be hard-rebooted and has been so laggy / bad battery etc
Anyone had a better time of 12 by doing a clean install without backup ..... it's a total pain to have to do this without using a backup and will require many hours of faffing around with both personal stuff and Knoxx (my employers BYOD solution)
Has anyone done a clean start and found less issues -- i know OnePlus had a load of issues with their upgrade so it seems upgrades aren't amazing this time around)
I did a clean install of Android 12 (factory reset, no reinstall of apps from backup) and have had no issues whatsoever.
I installed subsequent updates of A12 without reset.
Yeah ... my phone completely locked up when i hit "hang up" on a phone call .... the line didn't disconnect, the screen went weird, pressing the power key just opened the camera and no matter what it just didn't respond ... Same thing has happened now several times along with suddenly the phone going down to around 15-20 fps even in the user interface for about 10 minutes before seeming to recover
A factory reset is in order after a major OTA firmware upgrade.
It may fix it but there seems to be many issues with this upgrade. Scoped storage is fully enforced and not compatible with many older apps. It's also eats cpu cycles and slows the device when it's active.
SmartSwitch may or may not work. It sometimes creates conflicts by importing erroneous settings for the new OS or device. Sometimes it does work fine. I inadvertently used it to backup apps while transferring homepage settings from Android 9 to 10 on my second N10+, it worked perfectly.
Never rely on it alone to backup critical data!!!