Does this mean no Snapdragon in Note 5?
http://m.androidcentral.com/report-says-samsung-wont-use-snapdragon-810-upcoming-galaxy-s6
Report says that Samsung won't use Snapdragon 810 in Galaxy S6, overheating issues to blame
By Harish Jonnalagadda | Jan 21 2015 | 4:25 am | 12 Comments
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Over the last few years, Samsung has stuck to a release model for its flagships that sees the inclusion of Qualcomm chips for LTE markets, and Exynos-based variants in South Korea and emerging markets. That may change with the Galaxy S6, as a report out of Bloomberg states that Samsung won't offer a Snapdragon 810 variant of the Galaxy S6 on grounds of overheating issues.
Citing people familiar with the matter, Bloomberg says that Qualcomm's eight-core Snapdragon 810 "overheated during the Korean company's testing," with Samsung finally deciding not to use it altogether. Samsung will instead launch the Galaxy S6 with an in-house Exynos SoC. The South Korean manufacturer has been making huge strides in the field of application processors, with the latest version featuring an integrated LTE modem.
Samsung isn't far off in terms of processing power when seen against Qualcomm's offerings, but the vendor, along with everyone else in the segment including MediaTek, Intel and Nvidia, are miles behind Qualcomm when it comes to LTE modems. For instance, Qualcomm announced that it will offer the Snapdragon 810 with an LTE Category 9 modem that can attain download speeds of up to 450 Mbit/sec.
If Samsung is indeed looking to boycott the Snapdragon 810, it may be in the minority, as LG's G Flex 2 has Qualcomm's eight-core SoC, and HTC's upcoming One M9 is also expected to feature Qualcomm's latest.
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Tswfootball
If Samsung skips it due to overheating issues should we be concerned about flagship devices using it?
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arutemauepon
We don't know if it's real or they just made it up so they can opt for exynos
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rd_nest
Why should they do that when they have been using Qualcomm for past many years? It's a business, not fight among kids where you need to give a useless logic. If Samsung just wanted to use Exynos, they would simply do so without even talking about Qualcomm. There is no logic to giving any sort of explanation.
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Benjamin_NYC
Right. It's a business. And using their own in house chip is cheaper. This is a smoke screen.
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9ersfan3
The Exynos 7 is so powerful it may have the 810 trumped. I wish the SD 805 had issues that forced Samsung to go with only the Exynos 5433 on the note 4, lol. Exynos is now top of the line. The days of the octa 5420 (which is still very powerful) are over. The cat 9 of the 810 is impressive though
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zzzaac
Well it's all rumours until the phone actually shows up, personally don't mind either one, as both the Snapdragon and Exynos (which one though?) seem to be beasts.
But some modders might not like the Exynos
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zizu101
At the HTC event, I would like if AC could ask about this issue. I don't want to get an overheating mess on the m9.
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Benjamin_NYC
LOL AC "editors" don't ask any "questions" that might prove difficult for manufacturers or Google. They simply report the fluff presented to them.
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rd_nest
@harish Jonnalagadda, why are you mentioning Cat 9 modem as it is of much importance here? Samsung already is planning for in-house Cat 10 modem, so why suddenly Cat 9 be of any importance. Forget Cat 9/10, how many regions can actually exceed Cat 6??
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-exynos-cat10-lte-450mbps,28177....
http://www.gsmarena.com/next_samsung_exynos_soc_rumored_to_feature_cat10...
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Peter Burkes
I have a Samsung Galaxy s5 & its over heating as well. Never had this problem before with any Galaxy phones.
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Mighty_Red
Bit of a worry really, as if it is a problem with the 810 chip itself, the other vendors will have issues. On the other hand, if it is simply the design of the S6 that is to blame for the issues then Sammy are not doing such a great job.
Either way, I'm glad I'll be skipping this years offerings, hopefully 2016 will have stable CPU choices, 2K with no lag and type C USB
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tonybyatt
What are you talking about? There are no 2015 flagships even out yet...
How about waiting for facts before making absurd comments...
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If the overheating issues are a fact, then Samsung would have an edge if they designed a mean SoC. Especially if their competitors are going for the 810.
I've also been missing the Wolfson DAC, since the Exynos version is impossible to find unless I'm looking abroad. Would be nice to have that opportunity.
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
It would be better if Samsung stuck to one CPU per Galaxy model though, IMO, I remember the Note 2 being Exynos globally, if I'm not mistaken?
POLO_i780 said:
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
It would be better if Samsung stuck to one CPU per Galaxy model though, IMO, I remember the Note 2 being Exynos globally, if I'm not mistaken?
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Yep, same as the S3.
S3 had snapdragon s4 in north america i think
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lordoftheriffs said:
S3 had snapdragon s4 in north america i think
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That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
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My understanding was that it used separate lte radio. Now days they go for integrated solution
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Glad they are dumping crapdragon (as I call) in favor of exynos, the should have done it long back
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POLO_i780 said:
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
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Agree.
As I've said before, the 810 turns out to be a bad chip.
Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
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Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
Mafle93 said:
Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
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That's correct, there were variants with different radio support but they all used the Samsung Exynos platform rather than Snapdragon. I initially assumed a friend in the US was wrong when he said his US Note 2 was Exynos but when I read up on it I couldn't find any variants using a Snapdragon platform.
Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, there were variants with different radio support but they all used the Samsung Exynos platform rather than Snapdragon. I initially assumed a friend in the US was wrong when he said his US Note 2 was Exynos but when I read up on it I couldn't find any variants using a Snapdragon platform.
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Hm, I didn't know! Usually, we get the SD where I live. Our S3 was Exynos. I stand corrected.
snapdragons this generation and the next suck so im happy they decided to ditch it for the s6. maybe we will get a 64 bit kernel for our note 4s finally if they go all in on exy 7s for the s6.
They should put a heatsink fan on s805
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Personally, i give a damn on what processor the Note 5 will use (as that will be my next phone or maybe the Note 6). Because what matters to me is that the CPU and ofc the GPU gives me good performance and as long as i can root and install a good custom ROM on the Note without any hassles or problems, then i will be all happy.
I know there are more support for the Snapdragon CPU's when it comes to custom ROM's, but i do believe it's alright for the Exynos version to if i'm not wrong here?
Mafle93 said:
Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
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Nope. This is why "Exynos abuse" was easiest way to root Note 2.
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zurkx said:
snapdragons this generation and the next suck so im happy they decided to ditch it for the s6. maybe we will get a 64 bit kernel for our note 4s finally if they go all in on exy 7s for the s6.
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Agree. I tried out Note 4 with SD at Best Buy and decided to go with Exynos version. The lags and stutters on SD version are too obvious. Also not happy with audio/music quality on SD DAC.
Tom-Helge said:
Personally, i give a damn on what processor the Note 5 will use (as that will be my next phone or maybe the Note 6). Because what matters to me is that the CPU and ofc the GPU gives me good performance and as long as i can root and install a good custom on the Note without any hassles or problems, then i will be all happy.
I know there are more support for the Snapdragon CPU's when it comes to custom ROM's, but i do believe it's alright for the Exynos version to if i'm not wrong here?
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You mean you don't give a damn? Anyway, CPU performance is hardly a problem these days. A lot more of it is in software optimization. The support for the SD SoCs is a lot bigger, since it's everywhere. More closed source SoCs, like the Exynos, are only to be found in Samsung's phones. It's harder to develop a proper CM for it due to closed source libs, but some of the most skilled developers in here are still doing some amazing work.
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Nope. This is why "Exynos abuse" was easiest way to root Note 2.
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I see, thanks
Personally, I think Samsung should go for the Exynos, as Qualcomm has hardly any competition. With Samsung being one of the biggest manufacturers, I think it can make a huge difference. If Samsung is just consistent, using only the Exynoses in their flagships at least.
Exynos Note 4 users can expect a increase in Android development if the chip used in the S6 is similar enough =)
Qualcomm to provide Samsung with a modified Snapdragon 810:
http://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomm_to_provide_samsung_with_a_modified_snapdragon_810-news-10895.php
So I've Received my oneplus 3T today in the mail. Curious about the specs I installed Geekbench 4.
To Discover my OP3T has a snapdragon 820 inside clocked at 2.19 Ghz instead of a snapdragon 821???
Am I going insane or is this a Huge fU up on oneplus their end? I already own a OP3 So why pay more for same specs!?
It feels like I've actually been scammed.
FYI: Yes I've purchased it from their official website OnePlus.net
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KVnB7PWiXc&feature=youtu.be
Aida 64 shows a snapdragon 821...
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djr4x4 said:
Aida 64 shows a snapdragon 821...
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So what app is trustworthy? I ran the benchmark and have a single score of 1865 and multi 4359
maureno said:
So I've Received my oneplus 3T today in the mail. Curious about the specs I installed Geekbench 4.
To Discover my OP3T has a snapdragon 820 inside clocked at 2.19 Ghz instead of a snapdragon 821???
Am I going insane or is this a Huge fU up on oneplus their end? I already own a OP3 So why pay more for same specs!?
It feels like I've actually been scammed.
FYI: Yes I've purchased it from their official website OnePlus.net
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KVnB7PWiXc&feature=youtu.be
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Then see if your phone has gunmetal color
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DodoGTA said:
Then see if your phone has gunmetal color
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Its gun metal, I even showed it in the video
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Its gun metal, I even showed it in the video
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#strangeoneplus3t
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DodoGTA said:
#strangeoneplus3t
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Exactly ??
maureno said:
So I've Received my oneplus 3T today in the mail. Curious about the specs I installed Geekbench 4.
To Discover my OP3T has a snapdragon 820 inside clocked at 2.19 Ghz instead of a snapdragon 821???
Am I going insane or is this a Huge fU up on oneplus their end? I already own a OP3 So why pay more for same specs!?
It feels like I've actually been scammed.
FYI: Yes I've purchased it from their official website OnePlus.net
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I'm pretty sure I read that It's because the model number is the same as the op3, and the app uses this model number to look up the spec list, which pulls the 3 and not the 3t since it existed prior to the 3t release.
This has been brought up before a few times on the Oneplus reddit.
Mine also reports correctly as an 821 on Aida64 and CPUZ.
use aida64
Both the SD 820 and 821 share the msm8996 model designation so that may be where the chip detection is not accurate.
3.5.4 is only for the 3T, so you have a 3T.
Those apps work from a database and not reading the actual components. As the 3T is also A3003, those apps "think", it is a 3, but it's not.
What display Panel ID is AIDA64 showing for you guys? Is it the same Samsung s6e3fa3 from the OP3 or is it the s6e3fa5?
Same for battery... Some apps show 3000 (from database), others 3400 (from reading system). AIDA shows both
how's the brightness? I saw 3 and it was very dim even on max brightness. I was hoping it will be better in 5, but looks that didn't happen...
I wanted to create a dedicated thread for this. Speed test between the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 (8GB) and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8. Which one launches applications and games faster, which one gets better benchmark (Antutu and Geekbench) scores, find out in this video.
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I can tell you my note 8 was 200000 or so on antutu, note 9 was 284000. Haven't run geekbench yet.
Edit.... geekbench 4 note 8 sc 1850 mc 6646
Note 9 sc 2432 mc8863
even though it pretty much the same hardware as the S9+ it is also faster than that phone too.
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I can tell you my note 8 was 200000 or so on antutu, note 9 was 284000. Haven't run geekbench yet.
Edit.... geekbench 4 note 8 sc 1850 mc 6646
Note 9 sc 2432 mc8863
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Is your one the snapdragon variant?
Iain_S said:
even though it pretty much the same hardware as the S9+ it is also faster than that phone too.
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Probably the software is better optimised now.
xdaman85 said:
Is your one the snapdragon variant?
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US Unlocked Snapdragon
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US Unlocked Snapdragon
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I was testing the Exynos devices.
Hi, apart from the 2 extra Gb are there any other notable differences between the two models?
The 8Gb models seem to be cheaper here in Australia on eBay, Kogan etc.
I believe the 8GB model is the one sporting Snapdragon 730G SOC, as in Snapdragon 730 'Gaming' , which is a variant of the 730 SOC with a small overclock on the GPU side and it's supposed to be tweaked for more sustained performance (before power throttling).
Don't expect real life noticeable differences. Overall the Snapdragon 700 platform is a mediocre/mid-range one and thus very intensive CPU and/or 3D graphics tasks won't run 100% smooth on neither 730 or 730G.
ban.codrut said:
I believe the 8GB model is the one sporting Snapdragon 730G SOC, as in Snapdragon 730 'Gaming' , which is a variant of the 730 SOC with a small overclock on the GPU side and it's supposed to be tweaked for more sustained performance (before power throttling).
Don't expect real life noticeable differences. Overall the Snapdragon 700 platform is a mediocre/mid-range one and thus very intensive CPU and/or 3D graphics tasks won't run 100% smooth on neither 730 or 730G.
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Thanks for your detailed reply.
So I've been reading that Samsung pay won't work with this phone but will I be able to use Android Pay instead?
Can anyone here help please. I have this model and it has the Turkey firmware. I have downloaded Android 11 UK witch I want to use.. If I install it does it do any with the IMEI cause if it changes I will have to pay import tax as they will think I got it from the UK
Essex_Hal said:
Can anyone here help please. I have this model and it has the Turkey firmware. I have downloaded Android 11 UK witch I want to use.. If I install it does it do any with the IMEI cause if it changes I will have to pay import tax as they will think I got it from the UK
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The firmware cant change the phone's imei number.
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