Hello guys,
I'm using Mi9T Pro with Stock EU rom MIUI 12 version 12.0.4
I have this issue with Xiaomi regarding how the system handles prioritization of Network Band when it comes to using Mobile Data connection.
We know that we have options to prefer 4G, 3G or 2G. But it doesn't define which specific band. Like for example, 4G can be 4G/LTE or 4G+/LTE+. These 2 networks seem to be the same but these actually have different network bands
The question is how does Xiaomi system prioritize which band to select?
Does it prefer the one with higher signal or the one that pings better.
I have this question because as I have experienced, Xiaomi system seem to prefer the one with better signal regardless if it can't even pull any data. In short, it will keep connecting to a network with a better signal strength even if you won't get any internet connection out of it.
I've been noticing this when I set my phone to 4G preferred in my location. When signal indicator turns to 4G/LTE. It may seem to show you that you're connected to the internet but you can't really browse anything because there's actually no data for that band. But when it turns to 4G+, that's when I really get to connect to the internet.
And the biggest problem is that the system prefers to connect to the 4G band. That's why I'd prefer using 3G network because I have a more stable 3G+ signal here.
Another thing that's really disappointing is that my other phone OnePlus 5T handles this well. We share the same APN.
Sadly there's no band selection in *#*#4636#*#*
It would be glad if anyone could provide a better solution to this.
Thank you!
peeweew said:
We know that we have options to prefer 4G, 3G or 2G. But it doesn't define which specific band. Like for example, 4G can be 4G/LTE or 4G+/LTE+. These 2 networks seem to be the same but these actually have different network bands
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I've been noticing this when I set my phone to 4G preferred in my location. When signal indicator turns to 4G/LTE. It may seem to show you that you're connected to the internet but you can't really browse anything because there's actually no data for that band. But when it turns to 4G+, that's when I really get to connect to the internet. ..
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4+ g usually means (specially on Xiaomi phones) LTE Advanced Carrier Aggregation where no other/different bands are used but instead the phone is in parallel attached to more than one 4g band. As such, it increases the speed (and maybe, in your case provides a fail-over?!):
https://www.gizbot.com/mobile/featu...ifference-between-4g-4g-explained-053769.html
However, there is another question why (on that place) you have strong 4g signal with no Internet, so that when your phone switches to CA and in parallel attaches to another 4g band (maybe with a weaker signal) it obtains Internet connection over that second band
At least to better understand on which band (at which place and which base station) you have a 4g signal but with no Internet connection, install an app like Network Cell Info Lite, LTE Discovery, Net Monitor Lite). I think with Net Monster (all apps are on Playstore) you can even see on the map where is the base station you are attached to
If your phone is rooted, you could use Network Signal Guru that will show you, in case of 4+g all bands you are aggregated to with their signal strengths, base stations locations, etc (apps above would always show just one, primary band):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/help/monitoring-4g-advanced-aggregated-t4107967
zgfg said:
4+ g usually means (specially on Xiaomi phones) LTE Advanced Carrier Aggregation where no other/different bands are used but instead the phone is in parallel attached to more than one 4g band. As such, it increases the speed (and maybe, in your case provides a fail-over?!):
https://www.gizbot.com/mobile/featu...ifference-between-4g-4g-explained-053769.html
However, there is another question why (on that place) you have strong 4g signal with no Internet, so that when your phone switches to CA and in parallel attaches to another 4g band (maybe with a weaker signal) it obtains Internet connection over that second band
At least to better understand on which band (at which place and which base station) you have a 4g signal but with no Internet connection, install an app like Network Cell Info Lite, LTE Discovery, Net Monitor Lite). I think with Net Monster (all apps are on Playstore) you can even see on the map where is the base station you are attached to
If your phone is rooted, you could use Network Signal Guru that will show you, in case of 4+g all bands you are aggregated to with their signal strengths, base stations locations, etc (apps above would always show just one, primary band):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/help/monitoring-4g-advanced-aggregated-t4107967
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Ohhh thank you for this explanation.... Someone actually mentioned aggregation to me also. This helps make me clear up how Xiaomi does this and that. Does this mean force selection of network band won't work on Xiaomi devices?
peeweew said:
Ohhh thank you for this explanation.... Someone actually mentioned aggregation to me also. This helps make me clear up how Xiaomi does this and that. Does this mean force selection of network band won't work on Xiaomi devices?
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I'm pretty sure that with MIUI 11 there was an option to disable/enable 4+, but on MIUI 12 (12.0.2 QFJEUXM) there is no more that option
I don't know of other options (except to prefer 4, 3 or 2 g), specially about selecting bands
choose band mode
peeweew said:
Hello guys,
I'm using Mi9T Pro with Stock EU rom MIUI 12 version 12.0.4
I have this issue with Xiaomi regarding how the system handles prioritization of Network Band when it comes to using Mobile Data connection.
We know that we have options to prefer 4G, 3G or 2G. But it doesn't define which specific band. Like for example, 4G can be 4G/LTE or 4G+/LTE+. These 2 networks seem to be the same but these actually have different network bands
The question is how does Xiaomi system prioritize which band to select?
Does it prefer the one with higher signal or the one that pings better.
I have this question because as I have experienced, Xiaomi system seem to prefer the one with better signal regardless if it can't even pull any data. In short, it will keep connecting to a network with a better signal strength even if you won't get any internet connection out of it.
I've been noticing this when I set my phone to 4G preferred in my location. When signal indicator turns to 4G/LTE. It may seem to show you that you're connected to the internet but you can't really browse anything because there's actually no data for that band. But when it turns to 4G+, that's when I really get to connect to the internet.
And the biggest problem is that the system prefers to connect to the 4G band. That's why I'd prefer using 3G network because I have a more stable 3G+ signal here.
Another thing that's really disappointing is that my other phone OnePlus 5T handles this well. We share the same APN.
Sadly there's no band selection in *#*#4636#*#*
It would be glad if anyone could provide a better solution to this.
Thank you!
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Download activity launcher (play store), run it
Search band mode ===> Set radio band mode
Choose band mode you need
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Download activity launcher (play store), run it
Search band mode ===> Set radio band mode
Choose band mode you need
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This is what I was looking for.
Thanks!
Since the Feb update, the 4A 5G works on standalone 5G (which doesn't require a simultanous LTE connection). For many place, on T-Mobile, that is 600Mhz for SA 5G which gives better signals inside buildings.
But I've noticed that outside, in areas with low signal for 5G, I get really poor connections, but if I go into settings and switch the preferred network ttpe to LTE from 5G, I have no problems.
Has anyone else noticed similar problems where the phone becomes unusable on 5G and won't switch to LTE?
You can tell if you are on SA 5G if you go Settings->About Phone->SIM Status and you'll see "NR SA" for Mobile voice network type and mobile data network type (see attached JPEG). (if you are on "non-standalone" 5G those will probably say LTE and "NR NSA".
I am wondering if the sensitivity for switching from SA 5G to LTE isn't set correctly - hopefully they will fix this since it's annoying to have to manually switch things (and impossible to do that if driving).
As most implementations of 5G networks is 'non-standalone' (i.e. cannot handle calls, texts and data without another network band being active at the same time), typically devices will be connected to both LTE and 5G networks, which can obviously impact battery life.
Does the VoLTE option on the Samsung S21 Ultra mean that the secondary connection is not required and everything works over 5g, or will the device maintain both an LTE and 5g connection regardless of VoLTE being on?
Been answered elsewhere -
If the user-equipment (device/SIM combination) doesn't support VoLTE, then the network will use CSFB (Circuit-Switched Fallback) to drop the device to 2G/3G voice.
VoLTE allows for voice calls over 4G, the 5G equivalent is "VoNR" which is not currently deployed on EE.
Hello everyone, I live in Hong Kong and bought a Pixel 5 GD1YQ. The phone is great, but the network performance is not as I expected. I even suspect my Pixel 5 has a defective modem. I use the app NetMonster to check the bands that my phone connects to. It rarely shows LTE-A, but only connects to one band. What's even worse is when it connects to band 1 (2100 MHz), it sometimes drops internet connection and shows an 'X' in the signal bar, the signal bar is full though. I had an Xperia 1 before and it always connected to multiple bands (CA) wherever I go.
I have a little request here. Would you mind telling me whether your Pixel 5 always does CA or not. Also, if you have another phone, how is CA on the other phone comparing to Pixel 5? I just want to know whether my phone has a faulty modem or just isn't compatible with the carriers in Hong Kong? Thanks in advance.
Update: I just found that when I use another carrier, the phone changes bands more actively. So, I guess that's a compatibility problem. Now that I want to buy one more of another colour.
Anyone who owns the Chinese version of the mi 11 ultra can test it out?
I got 5g enabled in the settings, confirmed selected in the dialer menu *#*#4636#*#* top bars say 5G and an HD symbol on its left which I confirmed is Vo-lte...
Issue is it's not really 5g but LTE or 4g, how I came to this conclusion was by running various apps/ simultaneous 5g speed tests on both this phone and an older Huawei phone I got..
Mi 11 ultra caps at 140+- dl speeds
Huawei caps at 500+- dl speeds
Provider runs 5g on band n78 which is supported by both phones..
Can running the Eu ROM fix this issue for me?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-xiaomi-mi-11-pro-ultra.4260617/post-84978259 Happen to me in xiaomi.eu STABLE. In China ROM probably it's a standard fake 5G icon, when connected to 4G/LTE network..
veimus said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-xiaomi-mi-11-pro-ultra.4260617/post-84978259 Happen to me in xiaomi.eu STABLE. In China ROM probably it's a standard fake 5G icon, when connected to 4G/LTE network..
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Thanks for forwarding me there, guess all I can do is try it out and hope for the best otherwise a 12gb/512 is up for sale
n78 is 3.5 GHz 5G band (is wiiide band, is not a 600hz band lmao) Your phone preferred to stay connected to 5G bands more than 4G bands.
Try to switch to 4G network preferred
And check it out your actual speed on 4G
(Huawei supports more bands than xiaomi...due to different processor which is Kirin)
avetny said:
n78 is 3.5 GHz 5G band (is wiiide band, is not a 600hz band lmao) Your phone preferred to stay connected to 5G bands more than 4G bands.
Try to switch to 4G network preferred
And check it out your actual speed on 4G
(Huawei supports more bands than xiaomi...due to different processor which is Kirin)
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