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With the recent rumors on OP4/5 specs and release date should I get the OP3T or wait ?
I can't stay 2 or 3 more months with the state of my current phone btw.
U can buy!!!
If you are not worried about cosmetic changes like dual curved display(rumour) and all then u can definetly go with op3t because i beleive sd 835 performance relative to sd 821 will be neglible.
did you own your oneplus device?
if not, go and buy 3T without waiting.
rio1992 said:
If you are not worried about cosmetic changes like dual curved display(rumour) and all then u can definetly go with op3t because i beleive sd 835 performance relative to sd 821 will be neglible.
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Not so sure about it. From Snapdragon 820 to 821 there isn't a huge gap, but from Snapdragon 821 to 835, there will much differencies, like "revisited" Fast Charge for example.
I have bought One+1, One+2, and One+3, and have all of them within my family. So, I think I have the necessary authority to comment on the matter.
If you want a simple answer, it would be "yes, please go for it."
The complicated answer would be, it would depend on your situation.
If you don't have a primary driver and need a smartphone urgently, go get the OnePlus 3T. Don't wait for the next iteration as it will not be worth the trouble if you don't have a phone like 3T.
But if you already have a primary driver then advice you to wait for a couple of months.
By the way, my primary driver is One+ 1, with no regrets. I look down on other phones no matter how new, because One+1 still manages to perform and look better than them. You can call me a "phonist" (like the racist), you know what I mean.
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Not so sure about it. From Snapdragon 820 to 821 there isn't a huge gap, but from Snapdragon 821 to 835, there will much difference, like "revisited" Fast Charge for example.
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there will be relatively big differences but there will not be big performance differences, like it might be deca-core but it will be low GHz so almost obsolete difference, really there will just be cool differences that we will all love to try and make the most of but really within a month it'll be like eh basically the same.
I don't understand posts like this....if you always wait til the next upgrade you'd never buy a phone!
The 3t is already touted as one of the best phones around (for the money it certainly is), so why hesitate? The OS is in a good state, its reliable and fast and has only been out a couple of months. Personally I think it could do with a bigger battery - fast charge is a poor way to go about reducing the size (and cost) of batteries in devices. People want longevity, not having to carry around chargers incase it doesn't make the end of the day! I wish manufacturers would start listening and putting in bigger batteries. My Huawei Mate 9 Porsche has a 4000 mah battery and has no problem reaching the end of the day yet the device is the same size as the OP3T!
The screen could be better too. But its certainly zippy non laggy and ticks all the right boxes.
So I made an expensive mistake, thinking that I could live with a locked down device and grabbed a Pixel XL through VZW and I've reached a point where my inner flashaholic is screaming for his fix. I am considering other devices and am curious if there is anybody here with a 3T that had previously had one of the Pixels, and their personal opinions on how each device stacked up against each other.
I haven't got a Pixel, but I've used it extensively through work (I'm a web developer, so we used various devices for testing websites with).
The camera is much better on the Pixel, but otherwise the OP3T is just simply better. More RAM, same CPU, more storage (at least, cheaper) which is as-fast, same GPU. Overall better performance (as seen in benchmarks). And, it's unlockable and customisable. It's also brick proof (software brick, not house brick!). So is the PIxel, but your VZW is locked down as you know.
I just traded my pixel XL for a 3t a few hours ago. Time will tell. Will come back to update possibly. Camera is absolutely noticable.
Returned my Pixel for a 3T, too. IMO, the blazingly fast 3T is superior in every way except camera. All I want in a phone camera is for it to take good still shots. Couldn't care less for all the advanced crap. 3T's camera is good enough for me. A 1440p screen would be nice, but 1080p works. I also use an iPhone 7+, so am used to the screen size/pixel density.
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I haven't got a Pixel, but I've used it extensively through work (I'm a web developer, so we used various devices for testing websites with).
The camera is much better on the Pixel, but otherwise the OP3T is just simply better. More RAM, same CPU, more storage (at least, cheaper) which is as-fast, same GPU. Overall better performance (as seen in benchmarks). And, it's unlockable and customisable. It's also brick proof (software brick, not house brick!). So is the PIxel, but your VZW is locked down as you know.
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It makes me wish the camera had the same tech as the flagships because i wouldn't upgrade my phone for anything. I have a feeling oneplus will start making flagships not flagship killers though because lets face it the 3t is like 90% there already. The should release a 5T and 5B (budget), T for people like me who want the best available but don't want to go to samsung, and the B for people who just love the drastically cheaper price and quality phone which is also me .
See it's funny as I was looking to go the other way. Get a Pixel as I tend to change my phone every six months or so. I loved having the pure Android phones with the latest OS.
Are the Pixels difficult to unlock and root? I assumed they'd be as easy as OP3T. I think sometimes I forget how decent the OP3T is! Ian already thinking of getting the Xiaomi mi6 plus until the OP4/5 is released.
The 1080 pentile display on the 3T kills me, I hate it. Apart from that and the poor camera it's better than the Pixel.
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The display on the 3T is fine and pentile isn't an issue at all. Also 1080p is just fine and looks sharp. High res screens on phones look silly and are barely noticeable. They also consume more resources to run.
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See it's funny as I was looking to go the other way. Get a Pixel as I tend to change my phone every six months or so. I loved having the pure Android phones with the latest OS.
Are the Pixels difficult to unlock and root? I assumed they'd be as easy as OP3T. I think sometimes I forget how decent the OP3T is! Ian already thinking of getting the Xiaomi mi6 plus until the OP4/5 is released.
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Honestly, it's a pain. TWRP is not reliable. There are a few versions but none can do backups or restore. Basically when something happens you need to plug it in and ADB and/or fastboot. Both SU and magisk (unofficial only) can also get aggravating.
OT while the 3T is fast and is great in many ways. I decided to list mine this week. The camera can get rough as I have a nearly full blurry album from the other night.
Thinking about waiting a month or 2 or diving straight to the Mate 9, still undecided.
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Honestly, it's a pain. TWRP is not reliable. There are a few versions but none can do backups or restore. Basically when something happens you need to plug it in and ADB and/or fastboot. Both SU and magisk (unofficial only) can also get aggravating.
OT while the 3T is fast and is great in many ways. I decided to list mine this week. The camera can get rough as I have a nearly full blurry album from the other night.
Thinking about waiting a month or 2 or diving straight to the Mate 9, still undecided.
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My OP3T is now on EBay. I was gonna hop to Xiaomi Mi6, but there doesn't look like a plus version now - and I don't want 5.15", so maybe not. Perhaps the OP5?
I would like to try something else. Huawei seems kinda expensive for what it is.
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My OP3T is now on EBay. I was gonna hop to Xiaomi Mi6, but there doesn't look like a plus version now - and I don't want 5.15", so maybe not. Perhaps the OP5?
I would like to try something else. Huawei seems kinda expensive for what it is.
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Oh the Plus is coming http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xiao...apdragon-835-powered-phablet-incoming_id93266
Perhaps the OP5, I feel the design is going to be great.
Eh, Mate 9 on swappa. I have seen as low as 450ish. I see it as a potential trade for the 3t is around the same rate.
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Oh the Plus is coming http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xiao...apdragon-835-powered-phablet-incoming_id93266
Perhaps the OP5, I feel the design is going to be great.
Eh, Mate 9 on swappa. I have seen as low as 450ish. I see it as a potential trade for the 3t is around the same rate.
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I wouldn't hold my breath for OP5. My bet is that OP5 shipments will be a nightmare. Way worse than previous shipment issues of OnePlus devices. Leaks are saying that OP5 will come with Snapdragon 835. Samsung already reserved the first batches of 835 making even traditional OEMs to have hard times to get their hands on new SoC.
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I wouldn't hold my breath for OP5. My bet is that OP5 shipments will be a nightmare. Way worse than previous shipment issues of OnePlus devices. Leaks are saying that OP5 will come with Snapdragon 835. Samsung already reserved the first batches of 835 making even traditional OEMs to have hard times to get their hands on new SoC.
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Eh who knows. 835 supply should be fine during the summer. You have so many flagships waiting. You have to keep in mind the demand could only be for so long.
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Oh the Plus is coming http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xiao...apdragon-835-powered-phablet-incoming_id93266
Perhaps the OP5, I feel the design is going to be great.
Eh, Mate 9 on swappa. I have seen as low as 450ish. I see it as a potential trade for the 3t is around the same rate.
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I'll take it back - the Huawei phones for what you get is a lot more powerful than what is out there. The Huawei Mate 9 Pro is particularly good value stacked against the Pixel/Samsung S8 or iPhone 7 Plus.
However, bang for your buck the Honor 8 Pro/V9 seems to be very good value for money.
Hello everyone, currently I have OnePlus Two which is kind of "falling a part" and I want to upgrade but don't spend crazy amounts of money for S8/5T etc. I'm currently looking for "USED" OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7 Edge. The reason I'm considering the S7 Edge is the IP68 rating mainly and the camera kinda. What are your thoughts ? Thanks ^^
What is the price difference in your area for OP3T versus S7 Edge? Brand new, the difference was like double, and didn't to me justify a somewhat better camera and IP68 rating (plus nicer display). And that is from someone that takes a lot of photos with my phone.
Developer community was also a big consideration for me. OP3T was the most active xda section, when the device was the "current" OP phone. And I believe that popularity was only surpassed by the subsequent OP devices. So if mods, ROMs, and dev community are your thing, the OP3T is the way to go.
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What is the price difference in your area for OP3T versus S7 Edge? Brand new, the difference was like double, and didn't to me justify a somewhat better camera and IP68 rating (plus nicer display). And that is from someone that takes a lot of photos with my phone.
Developer community was also a big consideration for me. OP3T was the most active xda section, when the device was the "current" OP phone. And I believe that popularity was only surpassed by the subsequent OP devices. So if mods, ROMs, and dev community are your thing, the OP3T is the way to go.
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They have the same price in the used market.
As @redpoint73 said, you should shoot for the 3T if you're an avid flasher/modder. If you want the surface looks of a good flagship that'll get you through most of anything, then the S7 is what you need.
The only two main real world differences between the two are the Screen, where the S7 has a higher resolution, and the Camera, and whereas again the S7 has a very good camera, even in TouchWiz/Samsung Experience.
If they're both the same price for you, shoot for the 3T imo, it has good development support and the specs will hold up for the next two years by the by. Even though official support is ending in about half a year, the development community is huge, and you won't find a main ROM that does not have a 3(T) branch.
Development/Modding on the GS7 won't be easy, as it requires a third party program on Windows called ODIN to flash recoveries or anything. On the 3T, you just need ADB/Fastboot drivers, and you're ready to conquer the development world!
IF you decide to go for the S7, make sure you buy the Snapdragon Variant, instead of the Exynos, since the SD variant has supposedly better community support. But if you don't mind the down to earth looks in a phone, the 3T is what you should get.
In my opinion, the glass/ceramic body of the S7 is far superior to the Aluminium body of the 3T. Some may say so, and others may say the Aluminium looks beastly.
Also, did I mention Dash Charge? You can charge your 3T in less than an hour, and some ROMs, since they've been debloated, can charge completely in 45M. I've experienced this firsthand, and it still quite blows my mind, even after owning the 3T for almost a year now. Qualcomm QC can't even yet reach Dash Charge standards, and DC has saved my bum more times than I can count.
TL;DR, Go for the S7 if you want looks, or go for the 3T if you want raw power with a great community, which will future proof you for the next 3 years at least.
Cheers!
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As @redpoint73 said, you should shoot for the 3T if you're an avid flasher/modder. If you want the surface looks of a good flagship that'll get you through most of anything, then the S7 is what you need.
The only two main real world differences between the two are the Screen, where the S7 has a higher resolution, and the Camera, and whereas again the S7 has a very good camera, even in TouchWiz/Samsung Experience.
If they're both the same price for you, shoot for the 3T imo, it has good development support and the specs will hold up for the next two years by the by. Even though official support is ending in about half a year, the development community is huge, and you won't find a main ROM that does not have a 3(T) branch.
Development/Modding on the GS7 won't be easy, as it requires a third party program on Windows called ODIN to flash recoveries or anything. On the 3T, you just need ADB/Fastboot drivers, and you're ready to conquer the development world!
IF you decide to go for the S7, make sure you buy the Snapdragon Variant, instead of the Exynos, since the SD variant has supposedly better community support. But if you don't mind the down to earth looks in a phone, the 3T is what you should get.
In my opinion, the glass/ceramic body of the S7 is far superior to the Aluminium body of the 3T. Some may say so, and others may say the Aluminium looks beastly.
Also, did I mention Dash Charge? You can charge your 3T in less than an hour, and some ROMs, since they've been debloated, can charge completely in 45M. I've experienced this firsthand, and it still quite blows my mind, even after owning the 3T for almost a year now. Qualcomm QC can't even yet reach Dash Charge standards, and DC has saved my bum more times than I can count.
TL;DR, Go for the S7 if you want looks, or go for the 3T if you want raw power with a great community, which will future proof you for the next 3 years at least.
Cheers!
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Ordered OnePlus 3T a bit used for 280$ with a lot of accessories.
I hope the upgrade is worth it.
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Ordered OnePlus 3T a bit used for 280$ with a lot of accessories.
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I don't think you will be disappointed.
Also, please try to refrain from quoting a whole huge post, just to respond with one sentence. I know the default when responding to a post, is to include the whole quote. But just edit it, and delete what doesn't apply, before posting. This cuts down on forum clutter, and makes your thread easier to read and follow.
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As @redpoint73 said, you should shoot for the 3T if you're an avid flasher/modder. If you want the surface looks of a good flagship that'll get you through most of anything, then the S7 is what you need.
The only two main real world differences between the two are the Screen, where the S7 has a higher resolution, and the Camera, and whereas again the S7 has a very good camera, even in TouchWiz/Samsung Experience.
If they're both the same price for you, shoot for the 3T imo, it has good development support and the specs will hold up for the next two years by the by. Even though official support is ending in about half a year, the development community is huge, and you won't find a main ROM that does not have a 3(T) branch.
Development/Modding on the GS7 won't be easy, as it requires a third party program on Windows called ODIN to flash recoveries or anything. On the 3T, you just need ADB/Fastboot drivers, and you're ready to conquer the development world!
IF you decide to go for the S7, make sure you buy the Snapdragon Variant, instead of the Exynos, since the SD variant has supposedly better community support. But if you don't mind the down to earth looks in a phone, the 3T is what you should get.
In my opinion, the glass/ceramic body of the S7 is far superior to the Aluminium body of the 3T. Some may say so, and others may say the Aluminium looks beastly.
Also, did I mention Dash Charge? You can charge your 3T in less than an hour, and some ROMs, since they've been debloated, can charge completely in 45M. I've experienced this firsthand, and it still quite blows my mind, even after owning the 3T for almost a year now. Qualcomm QC can't even yet reach Dash Charge standards, and DC has saved my bum more times than I can count.
TL;DR, Go for the S7 if you want looks, or go for the 3T if you want raw power with a great community, which will future proof you for the next 3 years at least.
Cheers!
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Didnt they release the sources with the nougat update
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Didnt they release the sources with the nougat update
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Seriously? Please read my post (just before yours).
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Please read my post (just before yours).
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Was funny reading an entire huge post quoted right after you said that LOL.
Great buy. but i think you could have got your hands on Honor Phones too.
You should be happy with the OP3T. It's a pretty big upgrade over the OP2.
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Seriously? Please read my post (just before yours).
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Sorry
Are there any things your not happy with since changing. I've been having weird instances with my new note9. Things just dont seem as smooth. And doesn't seem to work as smooth in some apps. I find sky bet Facebook and Google me 3 most used apps dont seem to function properly
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Are there any things your not happy with since changing. I've been having weird instances with my new note9. Things just dont seem as smooth. And doesn't seem to work as smooth in some apps. I find sky bet Facebook and Google me 3 most used apps dont seem to function properly
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I've had the OnePlus 5, 5T, 6, Note 8,9.
The note 9 will always feel slower than OnePlus 6, 6T. OnePlus is always the fastest android phone on the market, is pure android with very few modifications.
The only phone that's that fast is iPhone.
Note 9 will have Samsung app plus carrier apps on top. Plus it has all the S Pen functionality, all these things will slow it down a bit.
My daily driver is Note 9 atm, it feels more complete with S Pen (that I use), one of the best cameras in the business, IP68 and wireless charging.
Apps should work fine, I would recommend deleting their data to see if that helps.
I have had them all. OP6T is by far fastest Android out there. But like geronamo, N9 is my daily driver for work.
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I have owned most of the last four OnePlus devices and I still have my 6. The One plus devices are definitely snappier in opening apps, the ability to keep all apps in memory is preferable. Battery life is very good. PIE is super quick on the OnePlus.
I wish Samsung would release a Google Edition, stripped Android with the Samsung Camera and Spen controls.
The N9600 has the far superior screen (dimensions and colors), the audio is better (speakers and headphone jack output), camera is significantly better, battery life is easily all day. The Spen...is bananas, the remote control function is worth every penny. Also the wireless charging is great.
OnePlus has more applicable bands, especially the 6T, if you run a US carrier.
Development on the OnePlus side, but WETA's rom really makes this device fly, if you plan to root. So I'd call that even, unless you are a flashaholic.
The N9600 price is under $700...I don't think the OnePlus offers enough $$ break, to sacrifice all that the Note 9 offers anymore. OnePlus has increased the price too much.
Oneplus, Xiaomi, Apple, Samsung... We are talking about phones, just phones, nothing essential for life, why people take a lot of time just to decide a phone purchase?
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Oneplus, Xiaomi, Apple, Samsung... We are talking about phones, just phones, nothing essential for life, why people take a lot of time just to decide a phone purchase?
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Because people want to know, which is the best phone for them. Which is why they ask allot of questions with regards to phones.
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Oneplus, Xiaomi, Apple, Samsung... We are talking about phones, just phones, nothing essential for life, why people take a lot of time just to decide a phone purchase?
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Dont believe anyone was questioning about buying the phone. I have had the Note9 for about 1 1/2 months its actual usage I've had problems with. Things not working as I expect things not loading properly or opening as expected. Etc
migrated from OnePlus 3T
miss the stock gestures of Oxygen, tried a few from play store with Note 9 but none are as slick as OP..Switching on / off torch , taking screenshots was such a breeze in OP.
Also using Note 9 feels like your using a vintage phone, OP was more fast and OS UI better. let me give you an example - u switch on BT on note 9 and unless u click done ( thou the pairing is automatic say with my music system or car ) the box wont close unless u click done. what a waste of effort. There are many more such examples.Cant understand why Samsung makes their OS experience such a dull affair. .
Hello everyone, in the past 9-10 years I have been an iPhone user after a bad experience with an android device. Now after 10 years I feel like android have become good enough to work fast on phones and got some nice features. So I thought about finally brake the chains of apple and move to android but I still have concerns.. I’m talking here specifically on galaxy s21 ultra but my questions are also relevant to other devices if I’ll find a better phone than the s21 ultra. My main concern that I also experienced with my old android device is a lack of support and updates. With apple I only had 2 iPhone in the past 10 years and they both received updates. (My iPhone X is still receiving updates) I was wondering what is the case with android? Or if I want to be more specific, with Samsung’s flagships, how long do they support their devices? If they stop supporting can you still get android updates? Using custom roms or kernels? I remember people have done it on my old device but those roms had many bugs, they were lack of features and the whole experience was pretty bad… how is this experience now? Is it still bad if Samsung doesn’t support the device anymore? What about the speed of the device? Does it get slower when time passes? (I’m not talking about reasonable reduced in speed that occurs over time, I’m talking about getting a device that is so slow that it is a nightmare to use it). Phones today have become so expensive and I’m not buying a new phone unless my old phone dies, so I want to have a phone that will last me for years, and I want to get the best phone with the best hardware to do it.
Thank you in advance!
Might want to break up your multi-part question into distinct discussions, because they are separate topics worthy of independent deep discussions.
have you considered Pixel? That's a pure software experience.
"I’m not buying a new phone unless my old phone dies" Which is to say you're curious not serious. Maybe you'll get serious about the time the Galaxy S32 becames available?
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Hello everyone, in the past 9-10 years I have been an iPhone user after a bad experience with an android device. Now after 10 years I feel like android have become good enough to work fast on phones and got some nice features. So I thought about finally brake the chains of apple and move to android but I still have concerns.. I’m talking here specifically on galaxy s21 ultra but my questions are also relevant to other devices if I’ll find a better phone than the s21 ultra. My main concern that I also experienced with my old android device is a lack of support and updates. With apple I only had 2 iPhone in the past 10 years and they both received updates. (My iPhone X is still receiving updates) I was wondering what is the case with android? Or if I want to be more specific, with Samsung’s flagships, how long do they support their devices? If they stop supporting can you still get android updates? Using custom roms or kernels? I remember people have done it on my old device but those roms had many bugs, they were lack of features and the whole experience was pretty bad… how is this experience now? Is it still bad if Samsung doesn’t support the device anymore? What about the speed of the device? Does it get slower when time passes? (I’m not talking about reasonable reduced in speed that occurs over time, I’m talking about getting a device that is so slow that it is a nightmare to use it). Phones today have become so expensive and I’m not buying a new phone unless my old phone dies, so I want to have a phone that will last me for years, and I want to get the best phone with the best hardware to do it.
Thank you in advance!
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If you're happy with your iphone, the updates, the performace and have been in the apple ecosystem for a decade now, what is your main motivation to switch platforms? Why exactly do you want to jump ship to Android? Is there anything particular you want with your phone that Android provides? You mentioned you wanted to "break the chains of Apple..." Android will definitely halp with that to some extent but that's going to come with it's own baggage. If you're really fed up of Apple, and have decided to jump ship after V.E.R.Y. careful consideration of the pros and cons of that decision, then the S21 ultra is worth recommending. It's one of the best Android flagships out there. Samsung is at the top of the game when it comes to frequency and promptness of updates (the quality of updates is a whole other discussion) and security patches - almost as good as Google itself. Pixels are good too if software and exclusive Google features matter more to you than hardware. S22 series is around the corner with the S22U rumored to have in-built S-Pen and basically a rebranded Note so you might want to hold off on upgrading for a few more months if that's your jam.
Just out of curiosity. what Apple "chains" are you talking of breaking?
Yes you should come to android world
Any android phone supports updates for around 3 years i think (and its enough) after that you can do custom roms (but most are little buggy)
Best android experience phones (according to me)
Google pixel, Samsung, Oneplus and Xiaomi
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I’m talking here specifically on galaxy s21 ultra but my questions are also relevant to other devices if I’ll find a better phone than the s21 ultra.
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If you feel fancy to get acquainted with ADB
then it makes sense to consider Samsung.
Samsung out of the box is an unusable piece of trash
because of the absolute unimaginable amount of bloatware all running in the background draining your battery and making attacking surface the biggest in the industry.
But, if you remove all the bloatware (around 50 packages) you will get a decent phone
with four years of updates after that I'd consider to install LineageOS or
/e/ OS if you care about privacy.
I wouldn't wait for S22 Ultra,
besides of narrative smartphones do not make any progress since Samsung's S10,
S22U will be not a significant improvement
worthy double the price of the S21U.
Android. I simply cannot bear to use an iphone in any capacity. In my opinion, a rooted/tweaked Android makes apple products look like toys.
Security555 said:
If you feel fancy to get acquainted with ADB
then it makes sense to consider Samsung.
Samsung out of the box is an unusable piece of trash
because of the absolute unimaginable amount of bloatware all running in the background draining your battery and making attacking surface the biggest in the industry.
But, if you remove all the bloatware (around 50 packages) you will get a decent phone
with four years of updates after that I'd consider to install LineageOS or
/e/ OS if you care about privacy.
I wouldn't wait for S22 Ultra,
besides of narrative smartphones do not make any progress since Samsung's S10,
S22U will be not a significant improvement
worthy double the price of the S21U.
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This is exactly how I feel. Getting my s21 Ultra on the 21st and plan on using this guide to tweak since unlocking the bootloader isn't an option for the US build 4+ phone just yet.
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I simply cannot bear to use an iphone in any capacity. In my opinion, a rooted/tweaked Android makes apple products look like toys.
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That's why we all here, aren't we? )
iPnone is out of competition though if you look for a "grandma certified" phone.
iPhone isn't actually a smart phone it is rather a dumb phone, because all you can do with it is run apps from the app store.
On Android on the otherhand,
among other things I run a full-fledged Kali Linux including UI in user space on my old unrooted Mate 20 pro.
On my S21U I exclusively run FOSS only.
Android and iPnone are two different animals, people who compare them have no technical understanding at all, in my opinion and should stick with iPhone (if freedom is not a cause of concern, of course)
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...My main concern that I also experienced with my old android device is a lack of support and updates. With apple I only had 2 iPhone in the past 10 years and they both received updates. (My iPhone X is still receiving updates) I was wondering what is the case with android? Or if I want to be more specific, with Samsung’s flagships, how long do they support their devices? If they stop supporting can you still get android updates? Using custom roms or kernels? I remember people have done it on my old device but those roms had many bugs, they were lack of features and the whole experience was pretty bad… how is this experience now?....
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Excellent question. This is a common misconception. While Apple may provide operating system updates for longer, the effective usable lifespan on the flagship devices is identical. The reason for this is that the equivalent iOS apps require a much newer version of iOS than Android. Put plainly, a circa-2017 iPhone will have access to about the same software library as a high-end Android handset from the same time period. Same for a circa-2015 iOS and Android device.
My recommendation is to base your purchasing decision on literally anything else (hardware, ergonomics, audiovisual experience, etc.). The whole myth of iOS devices being useful for longer is simply not based in fact.