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Sorry for spamming thread and lame question, which one is better, AOSP, CyanogenMod or any other original debloated Android ROM?
And when Xiaomi Mi5 will get many custom roms and official CM support?
Deez nuts
you should try out yourself, it's depends from person to person....
There's no such thing.
Phalcore said:
Sorry for spamming thread and lame question, which one is better, AOSP, CyanogenMod or any other original debloated Android ROM?
And when Xiaomi Mi5 will get many custom roms and official CM support?
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It seems that CM will be official for gemini (Mi5) from now on, thanks to xiaomi releasing it's kernel sources a while back.
Althoug many custom roms were already available, without a proper kernel their performance was very poor. So, if you don't want to test which one will suit you the best, I recommend you to wait a few more days to allow devs to start creating their own custom kernel versions, so the device can perform on its max
I have been using CM13 by bgcngm along with the Falcon Kernel by Harrynowl and so far it's amazing. I've had no issues with this configuration and can say it's WAY better than MIUI. You check it out.
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I have been using CM13 by bgcngm along with the Falcon Kernel by Harrynowl and so far it's amazing. I've had no issues with this configuration and can say it's WAY better than MIUI. You check it out.
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Could you specific in which area it better?
Performance? Clean? Customize? Feature? ....?
baszu said:
Could you specific in which area it better?
Performance? Clean? Customize? Feature? ....?
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Well let's see...
MIUI has this annoying feature (probably to conserve battery life) that whenever you close an app from the recents tray, anything that you had enabled in the Accessibility settings got disabled.
Secondly, MIUI's customization is nowhere as close as to CM's. I know MIUI looks great and all and the theme engine is pretty good but I still prefer stock over it.
There's no Google Now On Tap on MIUI.
MIUI doesn't let apps run in the background (again, to conserve battery), but it's kinda too agressive. Like not even Greenify can run for long periods.
Can't root MIUI unless you're using the China Developer ROM.
I could go on and on but then I'd be nitpicking on MIUI. These are a few reasons from the top of my head.
Also, I've been following this thread for battery optimization. It's pretty darn good and lets me go through 2 days on a single charge.
MIUI has better battery life than stock CM. No question about that. But CM's strengths far outweigh it's weaknesses.
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Well let's see...
There's no Google Now On Tap on MIUI.
Can't root MIUI unless you're using the China Developer ROM.
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Now On Tap on MIUI works.
You can root any kind of MIUI: just flash SuperSU zip via TWRP.
Fortinho said:
Now On Tap on MIUI works.
You can root any kind of MIUI: just flash SuperSU zip via TWRP.
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Huh. I didn't know that. Good to know!
Captain_Obviyus said:
I have been using CM13 by bgcngm along with the Falcon Kernel by Harrynowl and so far it's amazing. I've had no issues with this configuration and can say it's WAY better than MIUI. You check it out.
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Really man!!! I never try any other ROM than MIUI - Currently is MIUI 8 and it is realizable, durable and fast. Can you please share what functions are better?
I would say cm14.1 is best. Except the camera. The dev can't port it perfectly. Otherwise it is perfect
I entirely agree with you.
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Well let's see...
MIUI has this annoying feature (probably to conserve battery life) that whenever you close an app from the recents tray, anything that you had enabled in the Accessibility settings got disabled.
Secondly, MIUI's customization is nowhere as close as to CM's. I know MIUI looks great and all and the theme engine is pretty good but I still prefer stock over it.
There's no Google Now On Tap on MIUI.
MIUI doesn't let apps run in the background (again, to conserve battery), but it's kinda too agressive. Like not even Greenify can run for long periods.
Can't root MIUI unless you're using the China Developer ROM.
I could go on and on but then I'd be nitpicking on MIUI. These are a few reasons from the top of my head.
Also, I've been following this thread for battery optimization. It's pretty darn good and lets me go through 2 days on a single charge.
MIUI has better battery life than stock CM. No question about that. But CM's strengths far outweigh it's weaknesses.
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Unfortunately I don't think that there is any other alternative that could replace the global ROM. the CM O.S. have other (unsolved) problems.
Captain_Obviyus said:
Well let's see...
MIUI has this annoying feature (probably to conserve battery life) that whenever you close an app from the recents tray, anything that you had enabled in the Accessibility settings got disabled.
Secondly, MIUI's customization is nowhere as close as to CM's. I know MIUI looks great and all and the theme engine is pretty good but I still prefer stock over it.
There's no Google Now On Tap on MIUI.
MIUI doesn't let apps run in the background (again, to conserve battery), but it's kinda too agressive. Like not even Greenify can run for long periods.
Can't root MIUI unless you're using the China Developer ROM.
I could go on and on but then I'd be nitpicking on MIUI. These are a few reasons from the top of my head.
Also, I've been following this thread for battery optimization. It's pretty darn good and lets me go through 2 days on a single charge.
MIUI has better battery life than stock CM. No question about that. But CM's strengths far outweigh it's weaknesses.
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You do know that on MIUI battery saving mode is activated my default right? Is not that hard to disable it.
MIUI do let application to run in background. You just need to turn off MIUI optimisation and set Memory optimisation to "off" in Developer Settings.
vladimir_carlan said:
You do know that on MIUI battery saving mode is activated my default right? Is not that hard to disable it.
MIUI do let application to run in background. You just need to turn off MIUI optimisation and set Memory optimisation to "off" in Developer Settings.
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Yeah, well it doesn't really stop killing the apps. Right now I'm running CM 14.1 and it is AMAZING. The quick switch between apps is phenomenal. And unlike MIUI, it actually keeps my apps the way they were when I last used them.
I guess you did not use MIUI much
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Well let's see...
MIUI has this annoying feature (probably to conserve battery life) that whenever you close an app from the recents tray, anything that you had enabled in the Accessibility settings got disabled. - wrong, you can set the behaviour in the settings
Secondly, MIUI's customization is nowhere as close as to CM's. I know MIUI looks great and all and the theme engine is pretty good but I still prefer stock over it. it is subjective. There are lot more nice looking themes for miui then for cm ("nice" is of course subjective too)
There's no Google Now On Tap on MIUI. Wrong, just tested and it works great.
MIUI doesn't let apps run in the background (again, to conserve battery), but it's kinda too agressive. Like not even Greenify can run for long periods. Wrong, same as the first point. You can play a game today, then put it in background and resume it exactly at the same state in the next day.
Can't root MIUI unless you're using the China Developer ROM. Wrong again, you can root any MIUI Rom.
I could go on and on but then I'd be nitpicking on MIUI. These are a few reasons from the top of my head.
Also, I've been following this thread for battery optimization. It's pretty darn good and lets me go through 2 days on a single charge.
MIUI has better battery life than stock CM. No question about that. But CM's strengths far outweigh it's weaknesses.
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I really wonder why people spread already wrong proven rumors CM is basically an alpha rom with numerous bugs in it. It can not compete with MIUI for a daily driver.
greg17477 said:
I guess you did not use MIUI much
I really wonder why people spread already wrong proven rumors CM is basically an alpha rom with numerous bugs in it. It can not compete with MIUI for a daily driver.
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Huh. You make some excellent points. I was referring to an older build. Maybe the first MIUI 6 one, IIRC. However, it is my personal taste. I can never switch back to MIUI after CM 14.1. It's just so good. I'm not saying that MIUI is bad. It's just that CM 14 is REALLY good. Another issue (and I may be nitpicking here), is that I use LastPass a lot and it requires to be switched on in the accessibility services. From what I had gathered, I had to keep turning the Accessibility setting on every time I close the app/restart my device. If there's a work around, do let me know....
Maybe MIUI is different now... If you can tell me how I'd go about rooting the Global MIUI 6 ROM, I might just give it another shot!
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Huh. You make some excellent points. I was referring to an older build. Maybe the first MIUI 6 one, IIRC. However, it is my personal taste. I can never switch back to MIUI after CM 14.1. It's just so good. I'm not saying that MIUI is bad. It's just that CM 14 is REALLY good. Another issue (and I may be nitpicking here), is that I use LastPass a lot and it requires to be switched on in the accessibility services.
Maybe MIUI is different now... If you can tell me how I'd go about rooting the Global MIUI 6 ROM, I might just give it another shot!
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MIUI6 for MI5? Really?
But about rooting MIUI, you just need to flash SuperSU in TWRP. Is not exactly rocket science.
From what I had gathered, I had to keep turning the Accessibility setting on every time I close the app/restart my device. If there's a work around, do let me know....
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Where do you gather this kind of stuff? =)
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Huh. You make some excellent points. I was referring to an older build. Maybe the first MIUI 6 one, IIRC. However, it is my personal taste. I can never switch back to MIUI after CM 14.1. It's just so good. I'm not saying that MIUI is bad. It's just that CM 14 is REALLY good. Another issue (and I may be nitpicking here), is that I use LastPass a lot and it requires to be switched on in the accessibility services. From what I had gathered, I had to keep turning the Accessibility setting on every time I close the app/restart my device. If there's a work around, do let me know....
Maybe MIUI is different now... If you can tell me how I'd go about rooting the Global MIUI 6 ROM, I might just give it another shot!
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Hi,
as Valdimir already stated, just flash the superuser zip and thats it. Btw. we are currently on MIUI v8 and v9 is around the corner. I do not want to bash CM. It is surely a good room, but I would not choose nor recommend it over a nice and stable miui rom. In fact I wonder why people do not buy the oneplus device, if they plan to use it with CM. It has almost the same specs.
cheers
greg17477 said:
Hi,
as Valdimir already stated, just flash the superuser zip and thats it. Btw. we are currently on MIUI v8 and v9 is around the corner. I do not want to bash CM. It is surely a good room, but I would not choose nor recommend it over a nice and stable miui rom. In fact I wonder why people do not buy the oneplus device, if they plan to use it with CM. It has almost the same specs.
cheers
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I'm not bashing CM neither. I just don't recommend it as dailg driver yet. And probably never due Xiaomi keeping larg part of their code close-sourced. And as I am concern, CM will die in few days (31st December). LineageOS is too far away in the future for me. A new infrastructure must be found, Cyngn paid developers must be replaced, a new fund source be found. Personally I don't see LineageOS as same level of functionality as CyanogenMod anytime soon. Time will tell.
I can't tell anyone "Hey! Install CM14.1! It's amazing! Well...is not perfect yet...but hopefully all the bugs will be fixed and camera will work as same quality level as MIUI in the remaining 5 days.
So I made the switch to Nougat and gave up xposed. I'm looking for a rom with customization, good battery life and one that supports dash charging. I was using aosp extended for a little bit but I had so many issues. Also resurrection Remix gave me issues. Can anyone help me out
Try Phoenix AOSP Extended. I know you said that you already tried the official AOSP Extended, but really... Just try Phoenix. It's great! If you don't like that one, then try Legend ROM. Updates for that one aren't the fastest, but they don't need to be. It's already quite solid.
For me now the best option is a modded oxygen rom that suit you.
My vote is for FreedomOS v2.10 clean & fresh install with fresh install of all APPs, etc... Add during flashing a few basics like Face Detection for Media, Google Keyboard, Google Search, Google NFC Tags, AntHalService for fitness thingies, BT Midi Service just cause, OnePlus Camera cause it's awesome, then make sure to choose Google DNS, EnojiOne, Google Assistant & Substratum for K-Klock & Ozone... manually flash Pixel Dialer / Contacts and delete the stock ones in recovery... Don't use Root / Magisk during Flashing and don't use A.R.I.S.E either, too much of a hassle and not worth the results in my opinion. Manually flash Magisk 13 and choose Magisk Hide after boot... This'll pass SafetyNet and let you install Netflix, use Android Pay, etc... Don't use any Magisk Modules for now until things get sorted out. Right now using the modules causes a trip to SafetyNet. You can also flash Blu_Spark Kernel for some added awesomeness.
This has by far been the absolute BEST Nougat experience for me with none of the issues of using a non-OOS based ROM and I'm getting VERY solid battery life and unbelievably smooth performance with no changes to the Kernel settings and a boatload of APPs installed.
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My vote is for FreedomOS v2.10 clean & fresh install with fresh install of all APPs, etc... Add during flashing a few basics like Face Detection for Media, Google Keyboard, Google Search, Google NFC Tags, AntHalService for fitness thingies, BT Midi Service just cause, OnePlus Camera cause it's awesome, then make sure to choose Google DNS, EnojiOne, Google Assistant & Substratum for K-Klock & Ozone... manually flash Pixel Dialer / Contacts and delete the stock ones in recovery... Don't use Root / Magisk during Flashing and don't use A.R.I.S.E either, too much of a hassle and not worth the results in my opinion. Manually flash Magisk 13 and choose Magisk Hide after boot... This'll pass SafetyNet and let you install Netflix, use Android Pay, etc... Don't use any Magisk Modules for now until things get sorted out. Right now using the modules causes a trip to SafetyNet. You can also flash Blu_Spark Kernel for some added awesomeness.
This has by far been the absolute BEST Nougat experience for me with none of the issues of using a non-OOS based ROM and I'm getting VERY solid battery life and unbelievably smooth performance with no changes to the Kernel settings and a boatload of APPs installed.
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That sounds really interesting, I've actually registered here because I have the same exact question as the OP. I've tried LineageOS, Paranoid Android (AOSPA), and was thinking about trying Resurrection Remix but they either report bugs or don't really have any interesting features. Personally I'm all about customization. (So pretty much same as OP.)
Currently I'm using stock OxygenOS (with some root apps to make it better... MiXplorer, AFWall+, All in One Gestures, Greenify, Magisk, BusyBox, and was planning on trying to install Substratum) on OP3T but can't seem to get Magisk to pass SafetyNet...
I've been running Resurrection Remix for quite a while now and have to say that it's just awesome. Tons of customization options, super fast and stable. Full OMS support so that you can theme everything with substratum. Running it in combination with EX Kernel and AKT profile and got superb battery backup. Yesterday for example I had 7 hrs SOT with still 23% left. WiFi only, no gaming but everyday usage.
Just give it a try!
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I've been running Resurrection Remix for quite a while now and have to say that it's just awesome. Tons of customization options, super fast and stable. Full OMS support so that you can theme everything with substratum. Running it in combination with EX Kernel and AKT profile and got superb battery backup. Yesterday for example I had 7 hrs SOT with still 23% left. WiFi only, no gaming but everyday usage.
Just give it a try!
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Resurrection Remix is definitely one of, if not THE, most customizable ROMs out there and if I were to choose a ROM that wasn't OOS based RR would definitely be it. It's always been stable for me. I only use an OOS based ROM to prevent any compatibility issues / bugs that the custom AOSP/LOS ROMs normally run into on any device. Usually it's minor, but I've had major heating issues on a few releases over the past few years that have caused screen burn issues so I've been a bit scared to go back to non-stock based ROMs on my devices.
IMO, hands-down best ROM/kernel is Vertex. about as fast as OOS, without the issues of OOS and performs much better than anything based on LOS
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IMO, hands-down best ROM/kernel is Vertex. about as fast as OOS, without the issues of OOS and performs much better than anything based on LOS
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but vertex has no much features isn't it? less then OOS.
Thunderbolt said:
but vertex has no much features isn't it? less then OOS.
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yes, it is lacking in features when compared to most other ROMs, but makes up for it with speed, stability and battery life. quality over quantity. works better than OOS in a lot of ways.
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yes, it is lacking in features when compared to most other ROMs, but makes up for it with speed, stability and battery life. quality over quantity. works better than OOS in a lot of ways.
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I haven't run into any issues with OOS at all. Can you provide a few examples where it's having issues and where Vertex would be a better fit for us to look for that quality over quantity setup? I wouldn't mind giving Vertex a try if it's better than OOS. I just don't know where OOS has any issues yet.
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I've been running Resurrection Remix for quite a while now and have to say that it's just awesome. Tons of customization options, super fast and stable. Full OMS support so that you can theme everything with substratum. Running it in combination with EX Kernel and AKT profile and got superb battery backup. Yesterday for example I had 7 hrs SOT with still 23% left. WiFi only, no gaming but everyday usage.
Just give it a try!
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I have so many issues with RR.
jbw716 said:
Try Phoenix AOSP Extended. I know you said that you already tried the official AOSP Extended, but really... Just try Phoenix. It's great! If you don't like that one, then try Legend ROM. Updates for that one aren't the fastest, but they don't need to be. It's already quite solid.
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I'll check it out. I'm using DirtyUnicorns right now but theres not that much customization lol.
CJ-Wylde said:
I haven't run into any issues with OOS at all. Can you provide a few examples where it's having issues and where Vertex would be a better fit for us to look for that quality over quantity setup? I wouldn't mind giving Vertex a try if it's better than OOS. I just don't know where OOS has any issues yet.
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battery life is the best example. OOS wasn't a great experience for me when it came to battery. vertex is the most stable experience i've had with battery life on this device. also, my pebble 2 voice command for whatever reason doesn't work with OOS. sometimes apps i want on play store aren't 'compatible'.
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Try Phoenix AOSP Extended. I know you said that you already tried the official AOSP Extended, but really... Just try Phoenix. It's great! If you don't like that one, then try Legend ROM. Updates for that one aren't the fastest, but they don't need to be. It's already quite solid.
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Can't seem to bypass safetynet, so I'm going back to DirtyUnicorns.
What is with Lineage OS from sultanxda??
Have absolute no problems so far? Is vertex better? And why?
derAndroidler said:
What is with Lineage OS from sultanxda??
Have absolute no problems so far? Is vertex better? And why?
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i tried Linage and it didnt work. can you link me please
So far, DirtyUnicorns is the only rom that will let me bypass safetynet. Lineage and PhoenixAOSP Extended won't bypass it.
I was on RR for a while then I tried ViperOS, I must say it's pretty solid and smooth.
What about Camera drivers, use OOS because of that. And is ruining great for me, never get a phone that the battery last that much. Just love the phone and the freedom os.
My 3T has arrived, and I want to migrate from my 5X. I have a couple of questions:
Which ROM?
I know this has been discussed ad-infinitum, but I can't see the forest for the trees. I see lots of discussion about Oxygen vs CM / Lineage / Paranoid Android / AOSPE. I can say that even though I'm a "power user" in that I use my phone a lot, I am happy to stay close to the vanilla Android experience with minimal bloatware / "custom" experiences. I will need root for Titanium Backup, Greenify(*), Xposed, and perhaps a couple of other apps. In the olden days, I used CM on my HTC Desire and Moto G, but my Nexus has been just great with the factory ROM. I'm looking for maximum stability rather than tweakability that I'll never use. And sorry for being lazy, but I don't want to try ten ROMs to see what suits me, it will just become a pain.
How to migrate my apps and data?
Just use Titanium Backup? It's worked well for me in the past between different handsets. Or is the Google Android sync working well these days, and everything will just sync when I sign in with my Google Account?
(*) Is Greenify still regarded as useful on a 3T?
OxygenOS is fine. LineageOS is very stable too.
Most apps restore data from google, but some don't.
OxygenOS: Better camera. Reliable slow motion video recording, slightly better image quality.
Currently there is a bug on the latest official version (and custom ROMs based on it) that randomly wakes the screen up during phone calls if you have the double tap to wake feature enabled. Disable it or use the latest open beta, which is number 13 at the moment.
LineageOS: You have Substratum and and a bunch of ROMs based on it with a bunch of features. I believe you know it already, so it's up to you to decide.
Use Titanium if you want the app data as well, for example facebook login, offline game saves, etc. Google backup simply installs all the apps and logs you into Google services.
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OxygenOS is fine. LineageOS is very stable too.
Most apps restore data from google, but some don't.
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I don't doubt that, I was looking for more of a comparision.
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OxygenOS: Better camera. Reliable slow motion video recording, slightly better image quality.
Currently there is a bug on the latest official version (and custom ROMs based on it) that randomly wakes the screen up during phone calls if you have the double tap to wake feature enabled. Disable it or use the latest open beta, which is number 13 at the moment.
LineageOS: You have Substratum and and a bunch of ROMs based on it with a bunch of features. I believe you know it already, so it's up to you to decide.
Use Titanium if you want the app data as well, for example facebook login, offline game saves, etc. Google backup simply installs all the apps and logs you into Google services.
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I do take a lot of photos (snaps, for serious stuff I use a DSLR), so camera quality is important to me. However if we're talking about a small difference between cameras, and the Lineage camera is still fine for most use, I don't think I would use camera quality as a single reason to prefer one ROM to another. Anything else good / better about OxygenOS, or is it mostly bloatware (for someone like me who's quite vanilla ).
It will be weird but good going back to Lineage, as a CM user from many years ago. What about AOSP(E)? Does it feature in the equation?
On one hand, I love the developer-friendliness of OnePlus, on the other hand, there's so much contradictory information out there, it's hard to know what's real. Some people say the cameras are night and day, some say they're similar. Some say battery life is night and day, some say similar. I just edited my original post because I read that Paranoid Android might be a contender... You get my point...
From what you say, I'll definitely use Titanium. I've been with it for years, so I know where I am. In fact, maybe I should stop Google installing the apps so I can do it with Titanium?
I went from the Nexus 5x to the OnePlus 3T myself, and I'm currently running Paranoid Android. It's close to stock, has great battery life (usually I have 73% battery after 6 hours of frequent usage, but I don't have a Sim Card at the moment so I don't know the drainage with data enabled) and great performance. Bluetooth devices have a battery level in the status bar which I find incredibly useful, and theming is nice and easy. Only problem is updates, so I recommend switching to an Oreo based ROM when they are developed and switch back to PA when it gets Oreo.
i have been use all rom and the best still oxygen os very stable and minimum bloatware best rom so far but now i tried AOSPA and great but i think the oxygen is best
If you are lazy, Use FreedomOS : it's stock beta rom with nice addons: bloatremover,magisk,... and it's stock, mean you are no need to think about other problems like bugs~ they will be fixed by oneplus.
If you still want something like you old nexus i think you should take a look at Viper: not update so weekly, but it mean less bugs, brilliant features, nice stock apps, and even 2 theme engines: one similar to OOS and one is famous Substratum
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I went from the Nexus 5x to the OnePlus 3T myself, and I'm currently running Paranoid Android. It's close to stock, has great battery life (usually I have 73% battery after 6 hours of frequent usage, but I don't have a Sim Card at the moment so I don't know the drainage with data enabled) and great performance. Bluetooth devices have a battery level in the status bar which I find incredibly useful, and theming is nice and easy. Only problem is updates, so I recommend switching to an Oreo based ROM when they are developed and switch back to PA when it gets Oreo.
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That's exactly the kind of disruption I want to avoid. But PA is currently pretty up to date, so hopefully they can keep it that way. I could wait a few weeks for Oreo whilst bugs are ironed out.
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If you are lazy, Use FreedomOS : it's stock beta rom with nice addons: bloatremover,magisk,... and it's stock, mean you are no need to think about other problems like bugs~ they will be fixed by oneplus.
If you still want something like you old nexus i think you should take a look at Viper: not update so weekly, but it mean less bugs, brilliant features, nice stock apps, and even 2 theme engines: one similar to OOS and one is famous Substratum
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At first, I thought, I am lazy, great idea with FreedomOS. But for updates, it means waiting 1) for OnePlus to release then 2) for the FreedomOS code to be updated. They're still on 7.1.1, PA is up to 7.2.3. Also I'd be worried about the long-term, it seems PA have disappeared in the past, but at least they are a big team, FreedomOS looks like a one-man show.
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That's exactly the kind of disruption I want to avoid. But PA is currently pretty up to date, so hopefully they can keep it that way. I could wait a few weeks for Oreo whilst bugs are ironed out.
At first, I thought, I am lazy, great idea with FreedomOS. But for updates, it means waiting 1) for OnePlus to release then 2) for the FreedomOS code to be updated. They're still on 7.1.1, PA is up to 7.2.3. Also I'd be worried about the long-term, it seems PA have disappeared in the past, but at least they are a big team, FreedomOS looks like a one-man show.
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PA 7.2.3 is android 7.1.2 like other custom roms based on aosp/linage , 2.3 is just their name they call that rom,
And about long term support, here in XDA, we all knows every devs have their life, they could drop their project for works family...
we can't blame them:fingers-crossed:, since we pay nothing but "likes" for their works, PA may discounted, FreedomOS too.But there will many good devs here, in XDA create new good rom for us,
Did you have an nexus5 before?i run it great for years with slimkat, DU... then google dropped support for it and slim disappear, but even now, nexus 5 still can run good with android 7.1.2 Darkrom. and even Gcam with HDR+ from pixel, So dont worry about support. we're in XDA, with little search, try few roms for days, then choose your favorite :good: I'm currently running Viper with google cam, but maybe i will add lastest freedomos as secondary in multirom.
Enjoy your phone,
Oh wow, how silly do I look with the version numbers... Thanks for the clarification!
I wouldn't blame any open source development for not having time, but equally I'd rather use a ROM that gets updated in a reasonable (not quick) time. I just don't have time to spend hours researching every few months.
I have a Nexus 5X, running 7.1.2 from Google, with minimal tweaks. SuperSU, Titanium, Greenify (is that still a thing that people use), AdAway. I've been really happy with that setup.
So it's a funny decision:
PA based on AOSP with many useful things added.
FreedomOS based on Oxygen with non-useful things removed, and a few useful things added?
Did I sum it up reasonably?
Also, are these statements relevant / true?
PA is CAF-based and FreedomOS isn't? If so, should I care?
FreedomOS has Viper4Android and ARISE, which as a music fan I should care about? Or is it just fake audio processing, which actually makes the audio less natural? I'd never heard of either until I started reading about 3T ROMs.
This is not a place to compare roms, but a place to share your experience with your current daily driver on your Oneplus 5.
What rom are you currently using?
How do you like it?
What is your overall experience with it?
Are you using it with a specific kernel or the built-in one?
Would you recommend it to someone?
Etc...
Let discussion begin!
Note: I think having a thread like this can help keeping development threads clean.
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
Edit: This was a newbie post. I won't recommend this anymore, since it is outdated and whatsoever...
lekiaM said:
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
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Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with us. That's helpful! :good:
My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
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My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
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Well elaborated. And as you know the device is very new, so hopefully custom roms will become more and more stable with time.
Thanks for sharing!
Share about your daily driver experience here. We want to hear how much you are enjoying your OP5.
I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
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I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
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Thanks for sharing!
Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
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Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
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Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
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Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
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As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
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As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
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Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
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Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
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I'm on N as there is no O build available just yet. Signal is completely fine, but I believe there were a couple of users having issues with signal strength.
I've encountered no bugs or issues thus far. I did have random reboots but a clean flash seemed to have helped
Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
1. AOSP Gestures
Compared to OOS, AOSP gestures are terrible in the sense they feel "stiff". OOS gestures are smooth and easy to get accustomed to. Although there are apps to kind of replicate it, on AOSP it still doesn't feel the same. The little things like the animation of the app minimizing when you swipe up to the app switcher make a difference.
2. Fingerprint Reader
This is a very hit or miss subject with more misses than hits. I guess this can be chalked up to implementation still being fairly new, but I have tried so many roms and the FP reader works well until it doesn't. And when it doesn't work, it is bad. Screen flickering/darkening, random reboot, & a number of other weird glitches have deemed it unstable for me. Of course the alternative is to use a pin or something, but why if it is there?
3. Nothing "Just Right"
I used to have a Samsung Galaxy and that device had a number of roms for exactly what you wanted. With the 6T it seems like you only have two options. Either you get a stable stripped down rom, that offers nothing special except moving the clock around on the status bar, or you can get a rom w/100+ features and customizations that crashes at least 10 times a day. There doesn't seem to be a rom that has the balance of useful features and stability.
4. Custom Rom ➝ OOS = WIPE EVERYTHING!
I like trying new roms. Keeping my phone fresh and different is exciting, but it is now more difficult than ever it seems. Going from Rom to Rom is easy, but if I ever want to get back to OOS that usually involves wiping all data or even whipping out the good 'ol MSM tool because something went wrong. This whole new A/B Partion recovery nonsense has put a road block into this. There are 100s of instructions on how to make and restore a nandroid backup, but nobody has been able to do it.
5. No More Innovation/Uniqueness
It seems like every 6T rom is just a 'copy & paste' job with a different name. Gone are the days of groundbreaking roms and features. Dynamic System Bars, Pie Controls, Theme Engine, etc... these are just a few things that used to be unique and game changers. Now it's just moving icons around and remapping buttons.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
1. AOSP Gestures
Compared to OOS, AOSP gestures are terrible in the sense they feel "stiff". OOS gestures are smooth and easy to get accustomed to. Although there are apps to kind of replicate it, on AOSP it still doesn't feel the same. The little things like the animation of the app minimizing when you swipe up to the app switcher make a difference.
2. Fingerprint Reader
This is a very hit or miss subject with more misses than hits. I guess this can be chalked up to implementation still being fairly new, but I have tried so many roms and the FP reader works well until it doesn't. And when it doesn't work, it is bad. Screen flickering/darkening, random reboot, & a number of other weird glitches have deemed it unstable for me. Of course the alternative is to use a pin or something, but why if it is there?
3. Nothing "Just Right"
I used to have a Samsung Galaxy and that device had a number of roms for exactly what you wanted. With the 6T it seems like you only have two options. Either you get a stable stripped down rom, that offers nothing special except moving the clock around on the status bar, or you can get a rom w/100+ features and customizations that crashes at least 10 times a day. There doesn't seem to be a rom that has the balance of useful features and stability.
4. Custom Rom ➝ OSS = WIPE EVERYTHING!
I like trying new roms. Keeping my phone fresh and different is exciting, but it is now more difficult than ever it seems. Going from Rom to Rom is easy, but if I ever want to get back to OOS that usually involves wiping all data or even whipping out the good 'ol MSM tool because something went wrong. This whole new A/B Partion recovery nonsense has put a road block into this. There are 100s of instructions on how to make and restore a nandroid backup, but nobody has been able to do it.
5. No More Innovation/Uniqueness
It seems like every 6T rom is just a 'copy & paste' job with a different name. Gone are the days of groundbreaking roms and features. Dynamic System Bars, Pie Controls, Theme Engine, etc... these are just a few things that used to be unique and game changers. Now it's just moving icons around and remapping buttons.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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1. Fluid navigation gestures
2. Hit or miss on OSS
3. AOSIP
4. Reboot recovery... Factory reset.. Flash OOS..flash twrp reboot
5. AOSIP brings stability and android q features.. Kinda still agree with you though
Just my little 2 cents from when I was still rocking the 6t. I have 7pro now but thankfully AOSIP is already there too. But I can only imagine that development here has only dug further and provides an even better experience since I was here last
Lol. Oos sucks. Try aosip, you won't be disappointed.
Oos all the way! I have tried most custom roms, and while most are really good, but can't get through a day without jonesing to get back on Oos. I breathe a sigh of relief when I'm back using their gesture nav. We need to find ATL4ANTIS and beg him to build a CATACLYSM rom for the 6t! That rom on the Nexus 5 is still to this day the best custom i have ever used!
I have to agree with the OP, I've been flashing ROMs going back to the mytouch 4g and htc hero. Honestly this is the first phone I've owned where I really haven't felt the urge to go beyond root and substratum for more theming options of third party apps. It's nice there are some options out there, but OOS is there first rom I've used that felt mostly complete and not something patched together from bits and pieces. It's fast and smooth and battery is pretty good right out of the box. I keep ending up back on OOS, throwing on few root apps, change up the theme a bit and throw a slightly and I mean slightly better kernel and call it good.
Gotta respect your point of view,nicely written article.
Tho I'm using OmniRom Treskmod at the moment. OOS has also come a long way from what it was during Oreo days and safe to say you can easily live without a custom ROM on a 1+ device. The reason I'm using Treskmod atm because I was bored of OOS UI. Might be switching back to OOS soon
Cataclysm rocked. Loved that on my old Nexus 6.
The main reason I don't root, unlock, custom rom is I'm just too flippin' old and tired at the end of the day to
jack with it anymore. I use to flash all sorts of custom roms, back in the days of my HTC tilt phones, but since
android 4.3, I haven't felt the need to root or custom flash.
Hey, at least we have the ability to do so, but for me, end of the work day and weekend, I rarely touch my phone.
The main reason I don't switch to a custom rom is AOSP Gestures
I mostly agree with you! I like flashing ROMs but always come back to oos after a week max.
There are always some hiccups here are there, some are worse than others. Oos is just what I consider as stable.
ogkillergreen said:
Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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OOS is a tight, well-designed OS.
For now, OOS, TWRP, and Magisk are sufficient for me.
@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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Some of the things I looked for was better battery, lockscreen mods such as lockscreen rotation, changing of lockscreen shortcuts. Bring able to change location of status bar elements. Blurring if background for recents UI, quick settings UI. General ability to customize. Granted OOS doesn't have most of these, but it brings enough to the table that I'm not feeling the urge to go through all the steps needed to get them with a custom ROM. The ROMs I have tried while all good, tend to feel like something is lost in translation. May not be your experience but hey... It's how I feel. Out of all the stock ROMs on all the various flavors of devices I've owned going back to the HTC MyTouch 4G with Sense 1, OOS is the only one that has just enough customisation in it whilst remaining out of my way.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. I just wondered what features he was looking for that are not in ROMS now. You gave great examples. Especially the lock screen one, I have not seen that one before.
I Couldn't Agree Any More with You
I was going to share a post very similar to this one of these days sooner or later and you basically took the words right out of my mouth.
Back before I got the OP6T, I loved rooting and installing custom ROMs on my previous phones, all the way back from my Moto X (Original) Developer's Edition, to the LG Nexus 5X, and to the LG G6 (this one was a toughy), I enjoyed trying out different custom ROMs and seeing their unique features or customizability that they could bring to the table.
But with Oxygen OS, I just keep coming back to it! At first I couldn't quite place what it was exactly, but it's just as OP put it. The gestures (so nice. Fluid is a good alternative, but I don't think it quite compares to OP's nav gestures. Sure some customizability would be nice, but it just works.) The FP reader is kind of a big one and even though FP support was eventually brought to custom ROMs, they're still iffy and buggy. I thought at first I wouldn't mind them, and I didn't, but I just missed it in the end. With the nothing "just right" is what I agree with the most. OOS just feels something unlike other stock firmwares out there and it just feels smooth. One example is Nova Launcher. I've been such a huge fan of Nova for so long and the customizability is amazing, but the OnePlus launcher also replaces it for me! It all kind of "just works". For your point on going from custom ROM to OOS wipes everything, I've always accepted the fact that if I'm switching ROMs around, an easy mistake comes with a wipe, so I don't mind that. And with your fifth point, I think that's only because of us growing old of what seemed new or was more active while it existed. Newer updates for Android with security hinder modding and though we keep finding new ways to root and mod, it often just pushed developers away. Hopefully we'll see more innovation, but for the time being I do feel like it's in a state of limbo, or at least slowing down.
I will put in one more chance into AOSIP as people are saying, but right now, OOS with theOneOS, Magisk, Root, and EdXposed satisfy my needs.
I also see people asking OP what they seek in custom ROMs and from my point of view, I seek some originality and uniqueness. Something that persuades me to keep utilizing that ROM instead of pushing me away. I love customizing and ROMs like RR, Omni, BootLeggers are good examples but they lack a solid foundation of what they used to be. They're just cherry picked mods from other custom ROMs, or unofficial ports with stability improvements but that also comes rarely.
One more comment and to close it off: I'm a consumer. I believe that I definitely do know that I have an above average knowledge of how Android, modding, and all that works. I do know that it is hard work to code and create custom ROMs. I haven't personally contributed in doing anything because I simply don't have the time. I'd certainly try to if I did have the time, but I don't. It is appreciated for devs to release custom ROMs, but I feel like it is lacking. I don't mean any offense to anyone, and I hope people do respond in order for conversation or argument. I'd like to see what other people think.
TL;DR: OnePlus somehow just sucks me back into OOS in every way possible. Custom ROMs feel lacking.
@ogkillergreen i couldnt agree more. I laughed at my friend who jumped to One Plus before me when he told me how amazing OOS was. When I got the OP6t, i was blown away at what OP has done. I have been flashing ROMS and mods since the OG Droid Days. Never have I kept a stock rom as my main, not to mention as my preference. On the 6t, while ive tried most roms, its not been worth the trade-offs yet. the clock in status bar on oos bugs the pi$$ out of me. (align right would have been a good option for one plus to put in) but if thats my only gripe in UI, its near perfect *for me*. Every custom rom i tried drank battery compared to OOS. Especially compared to OOS with Omega kernel. my best battery life on an android device ever was with the 5/29 build of omega on stock 9.0.14.
I get it, though. Some people are convinced AOSP-based is always better, more feature laden, and simply faster. I was one of those people. The OP6T has swayed my opinion forever. Stock is no longer a dirty word to me. Especially when coupled with a few magisk modules and Omega kernel.
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@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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It's not so much of unique features, it's more of just frustration in seeing the same features on every rom. Before I open a thread for a rom I already know what will be on the features list. You could post a features list from a rom and I would not be able to tell you which rom it's from. I am looking for something that stands out from the rest, but not in a gimmick like way.
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It's not so much of unique features, it's more of just frustration in seeing the same features on every rom. Before I open a thread for a rom I already know what will be on the features list. You could post a features list from a rom and I would not be able to tell you which rom it's from. I am looking for something that stands out from the rest, but not in a gimmick like way.
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BootLeggers has some sick themes and other UI Related stuff up its sleeve it also has Minimal Customization and is Stable. If you want a good Custom ROM I'd recommend BootLeggers. But yeah Stock OOS Beta + Magisk & Subs is enough for me.
Surprised you haven't mentioned loss of Widevine L1 as the number one reason to stick with stock OOS
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Surprised you haven't mentioned loss of Widevine L1 as the number one reason to stick with stock OOS
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I think that is always a good reason to stay stock, but don't you lose that by just unlocking your bootloader?