Best battery life but keeping performance? - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What would you recommend to do to get the best battery life possible and make the phone less hot but again keeping performance,I am currently having issues with heat and battery so that is why I am asking.
Any help is appreciated.
Also running Exodus ROM (CM12.1 basically) with M5 kernel

Dinkec27 said:
What would you recommend to do to get the best battery life possible and make the phone less hot but again keeping performance,I am currently having issues with heat and battery so that is why I am asking.
Any help is appreciated.
Also running Exodus ROM (CM12.1 basically) with M5 kernel
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Im runnin AOXP rom on 2yrs old device
Medium usage with screen on 25% i average around 5:30h SOT.
Now i recomend you elite kernel v3 with aoxp rom from panzerox to start with. On ur current setup you can download L speed app and try out some tweaks
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Strmy said:
Im runnin AOXP rom on 2yrs old device
Medium usage with screen on 25% i average around 5:30h SOT.
Now i recomend you elite kernel v3 with aoxp rom from panzerox to start with. On ur current setup you can download L speed app and try out some tweaks
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The problem is stock based ROMs really became slow on my phone,even Concept.
I am going to wait for a better camera in Android 7.1.1 because it is very very fast but battery,charging and camera issues.

Dinkec27 said:
The problem is stock based ROMs really became slow on my phone,even Concept.
I am going to wait for a better camera in Android 7.1.1 because it is very very fast but battery,charging and camera issues.
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Use aoxp rom. Its fast and battery friendly, trust me
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Strmy said:
Use aoxp rom. Its fast and battery friendly, trust me
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I tried it once,it gave me Settings errors and whatnot,and just to check it wasn't a bad download I redownloaded it for a second time and still same thing.

Dinkec27 said:
The problem is stock based ROMs really became slow on my phone,even Concept.
I am going to wait for a better camera in Android 7.1.1 because it is very very fast but battery,charging and camera issues.
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You didn't manage to solve that slowness issues? Not even with LP roms? I've seen you had issues.
I'm as well waiting for Carbon 7.1.1 to get stock kernel and camera blobs as Myself5 mentioned, and I'll ditch stupid stock Sony rom, as none has been bug free so far (and I mean the official updates from Sony).
And for the OP, I would say go for AOXP, since it's quite fast and smooth, SliMM has better battery life (at least for me) but it is kinda slow, my guess is that it is either overloaded with features, or has aggressive battery tweaks.

Cirra92 said:
You didn't manage to solve that slowness issues? Not even with LP roms? I've seen you had issues.
I'm as well waiting for Carbon 7.1.1 to get stock kernel and camera blobs as Myself5 mentioned, and I'll ditch stupid stock Sony rom, as none has been bug free so far (and I mean the official updates from Sony).
And for the OP, I would say go for AOXP, since it's quite fast and smooth, SliMM has better battery life (at least for me) but it is kinda slow, my guess is that it is either overloaded with features, or has aggressive battery tweaks.
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I may give it a shot and see how it goes. Like Exodus has had the best balance so far,it is fast and does have a good camera but the phone is overheating so much it goes and drains the battery automatically,mostly when using Snapchat it gets very hot. I will try to run AOXP again,if that one fails on me again I will try SLiMM 5.0(Lollipop ROM) and if all of that doesn't work I may as well try KitKat.
Just to mention,I have downclocked the CPU to 2GHz and changing the throttle temperature do 77 degrees celsius,but the problem is I want to put the throttle temperature to like 65 but it will make the phone very slow,so is it safe to UV(undervolt) and not get any crashes?

Dinkec27 said:
I tried it once,it gave me Settings errors and whatnot,and just to check it wasn't a bad download I redownloaded it for a second time and still same thing.
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Ill help you out install it so it works
Its bit tricky, but i use it daily with no problems
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Strmy said:
Ill help you out install it so it works
Its bit tricky, but i use it daily with no problems
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Thank you! I will start downloading the ROM now!

Dinkec27 said:
I may give it a shot and see how it goes. Like Exodus has had the best balance so far,it is fast and does have a good camera but the phone is overheating so much it goes and drains the battery automatically,mostly when using Snapchat it gets very hot. I will try to run AOXP again,if that one fails on me again I will try SLiMM 5.0(Lollipop ROM) and if all of that doesn't work I may as well try KitKat.
Just to mention,I have downclocked the CPU to 2GHz and changing the throttle temperature do 77 degrees celsius,but the problem is I want to put the throttle temperature to like 65 but it will make the phone very slow,so is it safe to UV(undervolt) and not get any crashes?
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It's just weird that even stock roms give you the same issues, I haven't at least had problems with slowness on completely stock roms (official updates through Flashtool). Anyway SlimLP was good enough for me, you might want to search and try another LP, or make a stock prerooted yourself, and then flash some debloat/deodex script, there are a few for LP. That is of course if you can't make MM work properly.
Underclocking your CPU won't matter much if the governor is not set up properly to utilize the CPU steps according to the load. I am using interactive governor with settings from SliMM (see screenshots). It's not going above 1.57mhz, that's the highest it will go, even if max frequency is set to 2.45mhz. Most of the time is at 1.19mhz and 1.5mhz under normal usage, and on longer usage it gets just warm, no where near 65 degrees.
As for the UV, I am at -75mV for all CPU steps (here is my voltage table) but my CPU PVS bin is 6, so it can handle it. I went for -100mV, but it's crashing the system. So before you try, check your PVS bin with Terminal Emulator:
Code:
su
cat /sys/module/clock_krait_8974/parameters/table_name
Lower the number, less stable it will be when you UV, higher is opposite. SD801 PVS bins are 0-15.
UV helped my device stay cooler and improved my battery life, on 5.1.1 my average SOT was nearly 9h, on MM it's less, but even now I get more than 7h of SOT on each charge.
Performance did not suffer, at least not to that extent to notice it.
Srecno

Strmy said:
Ill help you out install it so it works
Its bit tricky, but i use it daily with no problems
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Lol just tried to install it - bootloops.
I am so done with stock MM ROMs right now wow.
Well gonna restore my Exodus backup then

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[Q] Roms evaluation - Speed, buttery feel, battery usage, temperature

I'm now in V20a stock, and i must say that, for me, this is a wonderfull rom. All around very fast and buttery (menus, launcher, app drawer, gaming, etc). But im getting battery drain. For exemple from 11.30 pm to 8.00 am drains 14/15% of the battery with 3G, wi-fi, NFC,etc all off.
Tried the iodak kernel with stock v20a but the O4x heated to much playing games (very, very hot).
I tryed CarbonRom-Hello Halo! and it had good battery usage (2/3% overnight in same conditions), but it wasnt quite as fast and not as buttery as stock, no matter what launcher i used (tryed rom stock, apex, nova, Holo).
So i would like to know your opinion on roms you are using, in terms of:
- Battery usage
- Speed and buttery feel
- Temperature when playing
This sort of question isn't allowed. Iodak and werewolf kernels have many tunables that can help with battery. Get yourself a copy of tegra overclock, you can lock to less cores or the low power core, you can also use trickster mod kernel settings to reduce voltages. Unfortunately our battery life is just bad in use. Werewolf kernel has a baseband wake lock removed which should solve some of the drain whilst phone is idle. Have a look round and read up on the different offerings available, and gather your own opinion. Personally I think stock with iodak or werewolf kernel is a winner
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I use euro open v20a, battery is fine for me, from 23:00 to 7:00 only 3% of use.
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I forgot to mention that I use stock kernel.
fguzmant said:
I use euro open v20a, battery is fine for me, from 23:00 to 7:00 only 3% of use.
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I forgot to mention that I use stock kernel.
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Thats what i would like to get. Maybe sometime i try to do a clean v20a instalation. My present instalation was an upgrade from v10 using Kdz file. I thought this would do a clean install, what aparently did not happen. Something must be messing whith the battery usage.
I'm using the cyanogenmod 10.1 (android 4.2.2)
-battery
It's not very good but not too bad either. It lasts me a day of moderate usage but it has to be charged at the end of the day.
-performance
Very smooth. The only fault in that regard I find is that the 4.2 camera does not play well so I got the apk for the V20a camera. It works a lot better.
-temperature
It's still hot, the only way you can change in this regard, as far as I know of, is to reduce the clock speeds of the gpu. It's not so hot that it overheats but it's the same uncomfortable heat when playing very resource intensive games/apps.
MrCythos said:
I'm using the cyanogenmod 10.1 (android 4.2.2)
-battery
It's not very good but not too bad either. It lasts me a day of moderate usage but it has to be charged at the end of the day.
-performance
Very smooth. The only fault in that regard I find is that the 4.2 camera does not play well so I got the apk for the V20a camera. It works a lot better.
-temperature
It's still hot, the only way you can change in this regard, as far as I know of, is to reduce the clock speeds of the gpu. It's not so hot that it overheats but it's the same uncomfortable heat when playing very resource intensive games/apps.
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Actually best way to control the temperature is with the throttle limits. Personally the heat doesn't bother me, but if its a problem for you edit /d/tegra_thermal/temp_throttle to values of your liking
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srmang said:
Thats what i would like to get. Maybe sometime i try to do a clean v20a instalation. My present instalation was an upgrade from v10 using Kdz file. I thought this would do a clean install, what aparently did not happen. Something must be messing whith the battery usage.
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I made a full wipe after v20a installation using kdz method.
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fguzmant said:
I made a full wipe after v20a installation using kdz method.
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After a nandroid restore, somehow the stock v20a started behaving amazingly well in battery usage. I'm gonna keep an eye on it, to see if it remains battery usage efficient :laugh:
Apart that, still is a butter fast, customizable, great looking rom.
For me the full werewolf package is amazing. Good battery life, awesome performance and I can cook with it it gets quite hot but that's intended from the kernel (temp throttle is quite high).
Only one thing bothers me and that's when the phone's plugged and I do heavy work with it, it gets to hot to work smooth sometimes.
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srmang said:
After a nandroid restore, somehow the stock v20a started behaving amazingly well in battery usage. I'm gonna keep an eye on it, to see if it remains battery usage efficient :laugh:
Apart that, still is a butter fast, customizable, great looking rom.
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I'm agrede with you, it's the best looking rom.
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Extremely bad battery life

I've been experiencing very bad battery life lately. Currently using PAC, I could lose 10% of battery in under 20 minutes of normal web browsing with the brightness set all the way to low. I'm underclocked and undervolted, battery health is good. I don't really know what's causing my media server thing to use so much battery but it's definitely chewing up more juice than normal. How am I supposed to fix this?
Stop media scanning.
On the Store there is an app called Rescan Media Root.
Media server drain ia usually caused by the sd scanning proccess, sometimes a bad file can cause it to go nuts and keeps the proccess alive, thus killing your battery.
Give it a go.
DrKrFfXx said:
Stop media scanning.
On the Store there is an app called Rescan Media Root.
Media server drain ia usually caused by the sd scanning proccess, sometimes a bad file can cause it to go nuts and keeps the proccess alive, thus killing your battery.
Give it a go.
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I will also try this, my phone is only two days old and the battery life on this device is absolutely horrible compared to my Samsung Galaxy Note 2, I will check back with you folks and let you know the results
It is horrible compared to a Note 2, even if you didn't have that bug.
Plus, CM, AOSP, and PAC, all of them don't have that great of a battery life compared to stock.
Say you can get a solid 5+ hours out of a stock rom with few tweaks, whereas on those buolds mentioned you could get 4h, with not so great idling times.
DrKrFfXx said:
It is horrible compared to a Note 2, even if you didn't have that bug.
Plus, CM, AOSP, and PAC, all of them don't have that great of a battery life compared to stock.
Say you can get a solid 5+ hours out of a stock rom with few tweaks, whereas on those buolds mentioned you could get 4h, with not so great idling times.
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mines totally stock too
DrKrFfXx said:
It is horrible compared to a Note 2, even if you didn't have that bug.
Plus, CM, AOSP, and PAC, all of them don't have that great of a battery life compared to stock.
Say you can get a solid 5+ hours out of a stock rom with few tweaks, whereas on those buolds mentioned you could get 4h, with not so great idling times.
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Obviously horrible compared to a note 2 since note 2 has a bigger battery and lower resolution screen?
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DrKrFfXx said:
Stop media scanning.
On the Store there is an app called Rescan Media Root.
Media server drain ia usually caused by the sd scanning proccess, sometimes a bad file can cause it to go nuts and keeps the proccess alive, thus killing your battery.
Give it a go.
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and if its not rooted?
I'm trying it our now, report back in a day or so. This phone is bound to have worse battery life than the Note 2, it has 2 more cores, 2x more pixels, LCD screen, smaller battery, if you want great battery life go back to the Note or get a battery case. I didn't know that stock gives me more battery, maybe I should go back :/
pimpsuprazx said:
and if its not rooted?
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how can you have Custom ROM, but not want root?
sebastianlow said:
I'm trying it our now, report back in a day or so. This phone is bound to have worse battery life than the Note 2, it has 2 more cores, 2x more pixels, LCD screen, smaller battery, if you want great battery life go back to the Note or get a battery case. I didn't know that stock gives me more battery, maybe I should go back :/
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Sony stock is very good rom to me. I will go to custom rom only if sony discontinued the updates, or sony makes the rom while drunk ( too much bugs, unstable... )
And, don't undervolt too much, -100mV is ok,
there's some test out there (not APQ8064), when undervolt too much, the processor will messed up the calculation, and re-calculate the process, wasting more battery and time. [this is applied to my old xperia arc]
If on Intel X86, I never get any issues/drawbacks from undervolting.
Sorry if I'm wrong, and sorry for my bad english.
sebastianlow said:
I've been experiencing very bad battery life lately. Currently using PAC, I could lose 10% of battery in under 20 minutes of normal web browsing with the brightness set all the way to low. I'm underclocked and undervolted, battery health is good. I don't really know what's causing my media server thing to use so much battery but it's definitely chewing up more juice than normal. How am I supposed to fix this?
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Pretty common on cm based Roms.
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~iPod~nano~ said:
how can you have Custom ROM, but not want root?
Sony stock is very good rom to me. I will go to custom rom only if sony discontinued the updates, or sony makes the rom while drunk ( too much bugs, unstable... )
And, don't undervolt too much, -100mV is ok,
there's some test out there (not APQ8064), when undervolt too much, the processor will messed up the calculation, and re-calculate the process, wasting more battery and time. [this is applied to my old xperia arc]
If on Intel X86, I never get any issues/drawbacks from undervolting.
Sorry if I'm wrong, and sorry for my bad english.
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i never said i had a custom rom, i went to install it, and it said i had to be rooted, and I'm not rooting my phone yet, thats why I asked if something similar was available for non rooted users.
Of course I'm not saying it's gonna get magically better but you should really give it more of a chance than two days a couple full charge cycles will help some,plus being new your prob setting up alot etc
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Jonathan2677 said:
Of course I'm not saying it's gonna get magically better but you should really give it more of a chance than two days a couple full charge cycles will help some,plus being new your prob setting up alot etc
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thats definitely true, I know these batteries aren't supposed to have "memory" but should I do the full charge and drain with them?
I guess I'm under the assumption of it being newer and better technology then my Galaxy Note 2 I was coming from, I was expecting it to be right off the bat better.
thanks
pimpsuprazx said:
thats definitely true, I know these batteries aren't supposed to have "memory" but should I do the full charge and drain with them?
I guess I'm under the assumption of it being newer and better technology then my Galaxy Note 2 I was coming from, I was expecting it to be right off the bat better.
thanks
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Diff threads I read say it's no good to let it drain down to low, I usually charge around 20,30 percent I do about once a month let drain completely
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Jonathan2677 said:
Diff threads I read say it's no good to let it drain down to low, I usually charge around 20,30 percent I do about once a month let drain completely
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I'm gonna try that, thanks
Bad battery? So this type not worthed to buy?
Hey, the "rescan media server" app fixes the battery drain temporarily. How do I find out and delete the file that is causing my media scanner to keep running? I switched over to another ROM a few hours ago and media scanner is still taking a big chunk of my battery until I kill it. Do I need to reformat my card? Run anti virus?
Try this app. It is an android issue not an Sony issues. The mediaserver running all the time. This app will help. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.addz.mediascannerroot
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~iPod~nano~ said:
how can you have Custom ROM, but not want root?
Sony stock is very good rom to me. I will go to custom rom only if sony discontinued the updates, or sony makes the rom while drunk ( too much bugs, unstable... )
And, don't undervolt too much, -100mV is ok,
there's some test out there (not APQ8064), when undervolt too much, the processor will messed up the calculation, and re-calculate the process, wasting more battery and time. [this is applied to my old xperia arc]
If on Intel X86, I never get any issues/drawbacks from undervolting.
Sorry if I'm wrong, and sorry for my bad english.
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I'm undervolted with -300 and my battery is lovely without any problems..
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Destroyedbeauty said:
I'm undervolted with -300 and my battery is lovely without any problems..
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Crazy undervolt. I thought my -200 was about the max you could achieve.

Merits of Kitkat ROMs

Could anyone outline the merits of Kitkat roms when compared to jelly beans? How is multitasking with Kitkat?
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Nishad1982 said:
Could anyone outline the merits of Kitkat roms when compared to jelly beans? How is multitasking with Kitkat?
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Kitkat is supposed to be 17% faster than jelly bean.
Nishad1982 said:
Could anyone outline the merits of Kitkat roms when compared to jelly beans? How is multitasking with Kitkat?
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Kitkat roms are mostly based on cm and aosp, so they, apart from being faster due to improvements and support for art runtime, also have a slew of features such as pattern lockscreen upto 6 x 6, album art on lockscreen, and many more..
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Let us share some real-life experiences.
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there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
willi9070 said:
there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
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You have to give away the juice for performance. That's okay. But what about multitasking on KK? Is it fast? Is it lagfree?
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willi9070 said:
there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
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I don't experience any faster battery drain than on 4.1.2 official TW rom and on newer custom JB roms. Only on TW based HarshJelly i've got slightly better battery life.
Nishad1982 said:
You have to give away the juice for performance. That's okay. But what about multitasking on KK? Is it fast? Is it lagfree?
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yes its lagfree to some extent since the hardware still remains the same
willi9070 said:
there are many merits like others said but negative side effect is the poor battery backup no matter what rom you use , what settings or whats your usage pattern, you will surely experience faster battery drain
apart from only this everything is superior, faster and functional than earlier versions
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Well I've actually always experienced a very good battery backup with KK comparing to the old 4.1.2 stock I had, which was also very laggy.. Of course with some roms (I'm seeing it on PAC man) you will get lower battery life according to the optimization/weight of the system itself.
CBatta said:
Well I've actually always experienced a very good battery backup with KK comparing to the old 4.1.2 stock I had, which was also very laggy.. Of course with some roms (I'm seeing it on PAC man) you will get lower battery life according to the optimization/weight of the system itself.
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its a known and accepted fact that kitkat conumes more battery then jb roms atleast on our device no point of arguement, but yes there maybe slight variation from rom to rom as i am using beanstalk its ginving me better battery backup then other kk roms which i have earlier used
Last android version of android not mean the best.I always was changing roms.But why?Just pickup a rom which meet your needs.Even its a AOSP,you can customize it with xposed.For me, MIUI meets my needs,of course i want cpu and gpu oc on kernel for MIUI...About battery,every phone will get different results with every rom.Why? Because :
-like any battery,it become fat and this problem cant be solved by just changing rom / calibrating battery
-everyone use phone different = different tasks = different results
This is my opinion.
willi9070 said:
its a known and accepted fact that kitkat conumes more battery then jb roms atleast on our device no point of arguement,
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Based on my experience it's rather vice versa.
hannez_r said:
Based on my experience it's rather vice versa.
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everything is possible in this world
after all user experience matters if you have it that way its great
willi9070 said:
its a known and accepted fact that kitkat conumes more battery then jb roms atleast on our device no point of arguement, but yes there maybe slight variation from rom to rom as i am using beanstalk its ginving me better battery backup then other kk roms which i have earlier used
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I must say that my old 4.1.2 (ITV), the one before the december update, was very laggy/buggy and had a higher battery usage. That's a particular case of course, but it happened
CBatta said:
I must say that my old 4.1.2 (ITV), the one before the december update, was very laggy/buggy and had a higher battery usage. That's a particular case of course, but it happened
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Stock UBLPK firmware has much improved in battery performance.
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My own experienced with Carbon 4.4.3 :
Everything is smooth, performance is better than stock 4.1.2 . battery drain fast, but i always have spare battery with desktop charger so for me it's no issue..
Also i OC my GPU lil bit with novathor tweak (built in from roms) . so gaming performance significantly increase too..
For multitasking, i prefer tweaking OOM by myself to suit my needs..
Personally i'm happy with this config...
Carbon kitkat 4.4.4 by Flo008 gives awesome battery life and performance.
rajag33 said:
Carbon kitkat 4.4.4 by Flo008 gives awesome battery life and performance.
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How is multitasking? Is it good? Is it smooth?
Nishad1982 said:
How is multitasking? Is it good? Is it smooth?
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@Nishad1982 Yeah good for a bit of multitasking. But I don't understand why people worrying about multitasking in a mobile device. What they want? opening 15+ apps in the same time? I never had a need to open more than 4 or 5 apps at a time. But you really want to do heavy multitasking, then you can tweak the minfree memory values to suit your need. (lowering the minfree settings for all categories by one or two simple steps)
But always remember, we only have a device with 620+ user available ram. Good luck for your Carbon Rom experience. (BTW, a new build is released today)
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@Nishad1982 Yeah good for a bit of multitasking. But I don't understand why people worrying about multitasking in a mobile device. What they want? opening 15+ apps in the same time? I never had a need to open more than 4 or 5 apps at a time. But you really want to do heavy multitasking, then you can tweak the minfree memory values to suit your need. (lowering the minfree settings for all categories by one or two simple steps)
But always remember, we only have a device with 620+ user available ram. Good luck for your Carbon Rom experience. (BTW, a new build is released today)
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A bit of multitasking that all I need. I do not want my Dialer lag when I need to make an urgent call while doing other things like browsing.
And 620 MB is a huge RAM for a phone.

Custom roms, or stock rom modification?

Hi,
im on stock rom, with bootloader unlocked and root installed. my deivce is still very hot even after system configurations, so id like some advice on how to tweak the kernel or improve performance, make it not overheat, install custom roms or delete system apps and so on.
Ive tried uninstaller system applications or bloatware, tweaking the kernel with CPU Tuner, installing and configuring the L Speed app, who i was someone had awesome resaults with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/themes-apps/one-to-tweak-apps-l-speed-t3350288
i only get around 2 hrs of screen on time with my deice, and a lot of heat, i saw it over 80 degrees yesterday...
id like some good optimization and battery life for the device, as im not able to do so now...
thanks in advanced
xswish said:
Hi,
im on stock rom, with bootloader unlocked and root installed. my deivce is still very hot even after system configurations, so id like some advice on how to tweak the kernel or improve performance, make it not overheat, install custom roms or delete system apps and so on.
Ive tried uninstaller system applications or bloatware, tweaking the kernel with CPU Tuner, installing and configuring the L Speed app, who i was someone had awesome resaults with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/themes-apps/one-to-tweak-apps-l-speed-t3350288
i only get around 2 hrs of screen on time with my deice, and a lot of heat, i saw it over 80 degrees yesterday...
id like some good optimization and battery life for the device, as im not able to do so now...
thanks in advanced
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Well try to install the latest firmware .244 is not that much hot. I'm using it for the past 8 hours ?
njaya95 said:
Well try to install the latest firmware .244 is not that much hot. I'm using it for the past 8 hours ��
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Ive been using that firmware sins the day it released (a weak ago almost)? but no change there...
what i have done now is done some heavy modifications to the kernel and some CPU governors.
I flashed this Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/development/kernel-andropluskernel-t3392772
the kernel works like a dream after under-clocking it with this program: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=no
Used the "alucard" governor, CPU is sitting around 60 degrees when using the camera, and its a bit laggy, but much more survivable that it was before...
This Kernel is the best you can do, perhaps you can try to deactivate one or two of the big cores.
xswish said:
Ive been using that firmware sins the day it released (a weak ago almost)? but no change there...
what i have done now is done some heavy modifications to the kernel and some CPU governors.
I flashed this Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/development/kernel-andropluskernel-t3392772
the kernel works like a dream after under-clocking it with this program: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=no
Used the "alucard" governor, CPU is sitting around 60 degrees when using the camera, and its a bit laggy, but much more survivable that it was before...
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I never tweaked anything but mine is only hot when I play heavy games and record video for more than 20 mins (720p)
Anyway your lag is too much or just a little bit???
And one thing I use stamina mode whenever I'm about to do something CPUy
So try it without tweaks and tell me what's the result.
Trilliard said:
This Kernel is the best you can do, perhaps you can try to deactivate one or two of the big cores.
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thanks ill try that!!
njaya95 said:
I never tweaked anything but mine is only hot when I play heavy games and record video for more than 20 mins (720p)
Anyway your lag is too much or just a little bit???
And one thing I use stamina mode whenever I'm about to do something CPUy
So try it without tweaks and tell me what's the result.
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I get the stamina thing, id do that too if i did not need the screen brightness
The laggs are not small, im talking CPU om 80 degrees an so hot that i can not touch top backside of the phone
and thats withou any tweaks on MM .244 with everything stock. Ive also tried it with root, but really that does not make any differense, i need to edit the kernel to be able to use the camera, or else it will shut down when recording in 720p.
Anyways, underclocking the device for me, actualle made it faster in my case, i have no idea why makes no sense, but there is no throtteling and cpu struggles when underclocking it, so now it relly smooth, a lot smoother than on stock .244 MM,
Hope it help!
xswish said:
I get the stamina thing, id do that too if i did not need the screen brightness
The laggs are not small, im talking CPU om 80 degrees an so hot that i can not touch top backside of the phone
and thats withou any tweaks on MM .244 with everything stock. Ive also tried it with root, but really that does not make any differense, i need to edit the kernel to be able to use the camera, or else it will shut down when recording in 720p.
Anyways, underclocking the device for me, actualle made it faster in my case, i have no idea why makes no sense, but there is no throtteling and cpu struggles when underclocking it, so now it relly smooth, a lot smoother than on stock .244 MM,
Hope it help!
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Okay i'll try underclocking and let you know what happened here.
njaya95 said:
Okay i'll try underclocking and let you know what happened here.
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thank! would like to see what others get as resaults !
have u had any heating issues as well?
xswish said:
thank! would like to see what others get as resaults !
have u had any heating issues as well?
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Well it gets hot but I don't mind about the heat, I'll throw it in a glass of water or inside the refrigerator if it's too hot [emoji48] . And I didn't underclock it. It's still running stock governor.
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njaya95 said:
Well it gets hot but I don't mind about the heat, I'll throw it in a glass of water or inside the refrigerator if it's too hot [emoji48] . And I didn't underclock it. It's still running stock governor.
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I dont mind the heat as well, but it is throttling in my day to day use applications, that's what's bothering me?

Anyone use nitrogen and pure nexus and has a preference?

I do so much work on my phone so need one that is smooth and quick with great battery. I have Pure Nexus now and it's fine but sometimes it seems to lag. Maybe they all do when jumping through lots of apps. Maybe I need to reboot daily to keep it smooth.
jeffrimerman said:
I do so much work on my phone so need one that is smooth and quick with great battery. I have Pure Nexus now and it's fine but sometimes it seems to lag. Maybe they all do when jumping through lots of apps. Maybe I need to reboot daily to keep it smooth.
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I don't think it should lag but you may give custom kernels a try.Lag sometimes happen due to throttling after heat.Custom kernel manage these issues at ease.
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Mr.Ak said:
I don't think it should lag but you may give custom kernels a try.Lag sometimes happen due to throttling after heat.Custom kernel manage these issues at ease.
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OK thank you. I have 3.10.40-PureKernel-Shamu-2.04 so it's a custom kernel meant to work fine with PureNexus I think. I'm sure it's just because I'm using nav, and other high usage apps.
jeffrimerman said:
OK thank you. I have 3.10.40-PureKernel-Shamu-2.04 so it's a custom kernel meant to work fine with PureNexus I think. I'm sure it's just because I'm using nav, and other high usage apps.
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IMO android uses a very smart way of managing stuff when multi-tasting to reduce lag.So it is still highly doubtable.
Why don't you try some other kernels and overclock possibly?
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Mr.Ak said:
IMO android uses a very smart way of managing stuff when multi-tasting to reduce lag.So it is still highly doubtable.
Why don't you try some other kernels and overclock possibly?
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Right now the phone doesn't last till much past 6p so I don't want to clock even more in case it uses more battery. It used to last longer so maybe when updating to 7.1.1 with the newer Pure Nexus that took some more. Or maybe it's just a 2014 phone with high mileage =). I used to go to sleep and overnight it hardly used energy now I notice when it's just idle it can use 20% overnight, maybe more. It could be an app I downloaded is running.
I use Nitrogen and no custom kernel and get above 6 hours screen time, very good ROM!
buschris said:
I use Nitrogen and no custom kernel and get above 6 hours screen time, very good ROM!
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Awesome thank you for that. I'll probably give it a try. I think it was in the top 5 custom roms on an article I read.
i finally switched to 7 on pure nexus...it's great...smooth...fast...had it running almost 300 hours without a reboot and it was still going strong...i haven't tried nitrogen...so can't say...but am happy with pn...i came from chroma rom...
Roms, Kernel, and Age are all irrelevant!
A phone will last as long as the battery allows, and that's based on your usage of the phone. Period!
You use a lot of apps, it's going to die quicker.
You stream a lot of music/YouTube, it's going to die quicker.
There is NO magic combination of Rom+Kernel that is going to magically make your battery last longer.
Your battery has X amount of usable stored electrical charge, and your phone will use it accordingly based on what you do on it.
pr0ndigy said:
Roms, Kernel, and Age are all irrelevant!
A phone will last as long as the battery allows, and that's based on your usage of the phone. Period!
You use a lot of apps, it's going to die quicker.
You stream a lot of music/YouTube, it's going to die quicker.
There is NO magic combination of Rom+Kernel that is going to magically make your battery last longer.
Your battery has X amount of usable stored electrical charge, and your phone will use it accordingly based on what you do on it.
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So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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Mr.Ak said:
So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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I don't think he understands or maybe is oversimplifying what he means. The Rom and the Kernal which affect the amount of systems running will affect battery life. The age as in the amount of times you've discharged and charged your phone over months and years will affect the battery life. There are tons of variables that affect it. One can say the kernal and the rom if they are running more systems or less then that's what he means by saying if you use more apps then it uses more battery but that isn't magic that's just use. So if you put a certain kernal and rom then that is affecting what you do on it which affects battery life. The X amount of storage a battery has degrades over time. The first answer when googled is below. I probably have almost 1000 charge cycles now. Nothing I can do about that.
"Charging a battery forces ions from the cathode to the anode; using the battery reverses the flow. Over time, this process wears out the cathode, which results in reduced capacity. A high-end lithium-polymer battery can lose about 20 percent of its capacity after 1000 charge cycles."
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I don't think he understands or maybe is oversimplifying what he means. The Rom and the Kernal which affect the amount of systems running will affect battery life. The age as in the amount of times you've discharged and charged your phone over months and years will affect the battery life. There are tons of variables that affect it. One can say the kernal and the rom if they are running more systems or less then that's what he means by saying if you use more apps then it uses more battery but that isn't magic that's just use. So if you put a certain kernal and rom then that is affecting what you do on it which affects battery life. The X amount of storage a battery has degrades over time. The first answer when googled is below. I probably have almost 1000 charge cycles now. Nothing I can do about that.
"Charging a battery forces ions from the cathode to the anode; using the battery reverses the flow. Over time, this process wears out the cathode, which results in reduced capacity. A high-end lithium-polymer battery can lose about 20 percent of its capacity after 1000 charge cycles."
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Exactly ;_;
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Mr.Ak said:
So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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Not if you have a bunch of garbage apps running in the background, constantly running some kind of process to check for incoming messages/app notifications/location tracking.
You wanna know how i went from having 10% battery life at the end of a work day to having over 50% battery life???
I stopped installing **** on my phone that i didn't absolutely need.
And low and behold, my battery life "magically" increased itself.

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