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4G is just aweful

I don't think it's the phones fault.
I live and work in eastern MA where LTE has been rolling out for the last 6 months or so.
As I drive I bounce between 4G and 3G.
When it loses 4G but still good 3G around it takes forever to switch back.
Often it gets stuck in 1x or Data is just hung or broken.
Flipping radio off and on fixes it.
My htc evo 4g lte did the exact same thing.
This behavior also chews up battery.
I have now forced the phone to cdma only and it's way mote stable.
This happens all over, not just one location.
I had to force my htc evo 4g lte to cdma too.

I had weird issues also. I would be right near a 4g tower and kit would take forever to switch over. If you were traveling through the area it may never switch (as it happened a few times). Needless to say, sold my EVO back to Best Buy on the buyback program for $280 and switched to T-Mobile. Best decision ever. Great speed and coverage.
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Meanwhile my lte is great. I think it kinda depends on your market at this point. Also the lte scan value is set to 300 on this phone. I think the evo was set lower, can't remember.
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how did you switch to CDMA?
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how did you switch to CDMA?
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Settings then mobile data and switch LTE/Cdma to Cdma
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It takes my phone a few a little bit to switch when i go into NYC. Long Island does not have 4g yet but every time i go into the city once its switches over it seems stay steady. Just recently switched to Sprint, i had been a Tmobile customer for the last 6 year. As for there "4g" or data in general i never had good data indoors. It didn't really matter if i was in long island or visiting family in Chicopee ma. With sprint I am not running into this issue nearly as often.

Yep, I'm about to return mine and go back to tmobile. With 4 bars of 4g it still cycles between 4g and 3g, horrible. Because 3g is so bad that no internet radio would buffer, so I'd be working out at the gym and after about 2 songs it switches to 3g and no more music till I either cycle the phone, or airplane mode. And even if 4g is connected, rarely is it faster than 4mbps anywhere.
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broken record here. BARS MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in terms of lte strength. The only exception is with an iphone. The bars you see are for 1x/voice not LTE...

It is pretty frusterating with regards to signal, especially compared to the iPhone
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LTE is all over where I live and amazing...
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Lte is still brand new to sprint. And is growing very fast. Here in western Washington they set a schedule of 50 sites for 90 days ending in just about a week and we are right on schedule. My aie just reported that sprint set another schedule for 250 sites in 90 days. More sites means less crowded on the few sites they have now. Faster lte speeds, more stable/reliable and faster connection speeds when traveling. Sprint is converting every site to lte and when that happens, you can all stop your complaining. Currently lte is just a baby to sprint. Tmobile is a joke as a carrier. Sure their hspa+ is fast but don't expect to be ahead of the game once sprint and att finishes their lte rollout this year. And it's good for when you can actually use it lol. I travle all over the states and I've always had the best phones offered by each carrier and I wouldn't wish tmobile on my worst enemy.
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tsdeaton said:
Lte is still brand new to sprint. And is growing very fast. Here in western Washington they set a schedule of 50 sites for 90 days ending in just about a week and we are right on schedule. My aie just reported that sprint set another schedule for 250 sites in 90 days. More sites means less crowded on the few sites they have now. Faster lte speeds, more stable/reliable and faster connection speeds when traveling. Sprint is converting every site to lte and when that happens, you can all stop your complaining. Currently lte is just a baby to sprint. Tmobile is a joke as a carrier. Sure their hspa+ is fast but don't expect to be ahead of the game once sprint and att finishes their lte rollout this year. And it's good for when you can actually use it lol. I travle all over the states and I've always had the best phones offered by each carrier and I wouldn't wish tmobile on my worst enemy.
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Right... Specially when in many cities tmobile tests much better than sprint in just about everything? Sure, their device lineup wasn't the best, but with all the latest devices and the improvements tbeyve made, not to mention metro pcs acquisition...
Point is, go into any crowded city and you have dialup on sprint, even locations that they've already converted to lte are still deeply, T-Mobile will give you Better performance in most cases. Oh, and look st their lte rollout vs sprint, they are doing it way faster and more efficient.
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My area is fine
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My area is fine
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Where you at?
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Suburb of Chicago
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It's good here in the Atlanta area too. :thumbup:
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It's good here in the Atlanta area too. :thumbup:
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Could you post what you get in Atlanta ans where please? I'm moving there in early June and I only have a week to either keep sprint or go back to T-Mobile, I know that tmo works well in the Atlanta area.
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Right... Specially when in many cities tmobile tests much better than sprint in just about everything? Sure, their device lineup wasn't the best, but with all the latest devices and the improvements tbeyve made, not to mention metro pcs acquisition...
Point is, go into any crowded city and you have dialup on sprint, even locations that they've already converted to lte are still deeply, T-Mobile will give you Better performance in most cases. Oh, and look st their lte rollout vs sprint, they are doing it way faster and more efficient.
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Look I'm pissed at Sprint right now but you can not compare the kind of roll out T-mobile is doing to anything of the magnitude that Sprint is doing. The amount of work being done versus the 2 of them are night and day..
But then again Sprint put themselves in the position they are in by being behind the curve..
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Look I'm pissed at Sprint right now but you can not compare the kind of roll out T-mobile is doing to anything of the magnitude that Sprint is doing. The amount of work being done versus the 2 of them are night and day..
But then again Sprint put themselves in the position they are in by being behind the curve..
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At some point, people willstop buying into what sprint says. When wimax was rolling out every rep was told to sell $10 premium data fee as 4g fee, then, they start charging it for even a 3g device. Is the fee unreasonable? No, but the approach sprint took is messed up. Then, they scrap wimax, and I do get why, they had to, it wasn't really good to begin with. So wimax coverage gets smaller and markets end up relying more on already taxed backhaul, equalling in terrible data performance.
I can't tell you how many times they've had towers down with no eta on repairs in Colorado last year, was insane. Network vision does look good in theory, but those upgrades were planned years ago, before every tower was this massively overloaded.
And I agree, sprint is doing a lot to fix their issues, the fact that they plan to have lte on every tower is pretty awesome, definitely better than what T-Mobile will have with only hspa+ areas upgraded. So, if you go to rural areas a lot, then sprint may be the way to go. My problem is the timeline, you can't really have a network that barely gets 200kbps in a major downtown area during the day at this time and age. Their planned upgrades, are way behind schedule, check s4guru is pretty much shows how delayed it is becoming. Yet sprint keeps selling it as ahead of schedule... How?
Even Softbank says that sprint won't have the money to finish network vision unless their deal goes through, not s good sign.
T-Mobile isn't the best by any means, I do like their hspa network, it is fast! Even in dense areas I still maintain consistently high download speeds, regardless of the time of day. And I'm talking downtown Washington, Arlington, Denver, Atlanta, New York, Chicago. Their initial lte launch is covering up areas rather fast, even here in dc they already have s pretty substantial coverage, and it isn't even live yet.
Sprint called their cities live with 15% of sites upgraded, how misleading is that? When a consumer sees that sprint has lte coverage, what is their expectation? To have that service available most of the time... But if only 15-30% of sites are upgraded, is that going to happen? Unlikely
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air2k57 said:
Could you post what you get in Atlanta ans where please? I'm moving there in early June and I only have a week to either keep sprint or go back to T-Mobile, I know that tmo works well in the Atlanta area.
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Not too shabby. My phone runs 4G about 90% of the time. Speeds vary from about 5mb to about 25mb downloads depending on location. This is all in the Marietta/Kennesaw area.
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[MetroPCS] Nexus 5 Thread

Hello Everyone,
Seeing as I'm a MetroPCS user and I don't see any MetroPCS/Nexus 5 related threads yet, I decided to create one. In which we may discuss all things related to our Nexus 5's on MetroPCS's BYOD Network (T-Mobile).
Post your experiences, speed tests, ideas, questions, etc.

MetroPCS 4G Cap Speeds.
Well to get things started, I currently have MetroPCS $40.00 plan in which I have 500MB of 4G LTE. But get this guys, I'm past 500MB, I'm at 840MB and my speeds still haven't been throttled down.
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Been wanting to see what speeds or connection I'd get dropped to after, but still going strong on 4G!

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Well to get things started, I currently have MetroPCS $40.00 plan in which I have 500MB of 4G LTE. But get this guys, I'm past 500MB, I'm at 840MB and my speeds still haven't been throttled down.
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Been wanting to see what speeds or connection I'd get dropped to after, but still going strong on 4G!
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Are you noticing no slow down on your speeds or connection type? Whats your speedtest results? When you hit say 500mb on the $40 plan you still will stay on LTE but will have throttled speeds, They wont force you down to 3G or EDGE

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Are you noticing no slow down on your speeds or connection type? Whats your speedtest results? When you hit say 500mb on the $40 plan you still will stay on LTE but will have throttled speeds, They wont force you down to 3G or EDGE
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Nope, fastest speed test today on 4G was 21mbps down. I haven't been throttled yet.
I'm wondering if I do get throttled if I can force 3G after, and have unlimited 3G speeds like when I was Houdini flashed?
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JD2589 said:
Well to get things started, I currently have MetroPCS $40.00 plan in which I have 500MB of 4G LTE. But get this guys, I'm past 500MB, I'm at 840MB and my speeds still haven't been throttled down.
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What do you guys think?
Been wanting to see what speeds or connection I'd get dropped to after, but still going strong on 4G!
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Nope, fastest speed test today on 4G was 21mbps down. I haven't been throttled yet.
I'm wondering if I do get throttled if I can force 3G after, and have unlimited 3G speeds like when I was Houdini flashed?
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Not sure. You mean by flashed was on the old MetroPCS network? (CDMA)? Since the new network is GSM prob wont. I`d love to try out MetroPCS they have the $60 plan but not sure if the website will let me order, As the closest Metro Market to me is Atlanta but I live 3 hours from there in a state with none of there original coverage, But T-Mobile is all around me so I`m not sure if its now based on T-Mobile covergae when ordering or there original coverage areas.
Does tethering work?

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Not sure. You mean by flashed was on the old MetroPCS network? (CDMA)? Since the new network is GSM prob wont. I`d love to try out MetroPCS they have the $60 plan but not sure if the website will let me order, As the closest Metro Market to me is Atlanta but I live 3 hours from there in a state with none of there original coverage, But T-Mobile is all around me so I`m not sure if its now based on T-Mobile covergae when ordering or there original coverage areas.
Does tethering work?
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Truthfully I haven't tried tethering yet, I've had my N5 on MetroPCS for about a week and a half only.
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Tethering will work the same as t-mobile. We're running on the t-mobile network and the throttling is down to 20kbps. I'm on the unlimited for 60 plan because it's so slow.
My first week of having my Nexus 5.
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FuMMoD said:
Tethering will work the same as t-mobile. We're running on the t-mobile network and the throttling is down to 20kbps. I'm on the unlimited for 60 plan because it's so slow.
My first week of having my Nexus 5.
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Was waiting for you to come around.
Throttling is down to 20kbps!
Is their any way around it, like forcing CDMA mode or something to get 3G?
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JD2589 said:
Was waiting for you to come around.
Throttling is down to 20kbps!
Is their any way around it, like forcing CDMA mode or something to get 3G?
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Not sure exactly how to do that with the Nexus 5. I don't think there is a way to do it though since it's gsm.
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FuMMoD said:
Not sure exactly how to do that with the Nexus 5. I don't think there is a way to do it though since it's gsm.
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Dialer>*#*#INFO#*#*>Phone Information. There you can mess with Network types.
Waiting to get throttled to try it. 863MB used.
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JD2589 said:
Dialer>*#*#INFO#*#*>Phone Information. There you can mess with Network types.
Waiting to get throttled to try it. 863MB used.
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Can you do a screenshot of your settings.
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FuMMoD said:
Can you do a screenshot of your settings.
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You got it:
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You got it:
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Same thing here and I get throttled to 2g speeds even though they swear it's 3g.
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FuMMoD said:
Same thing here and I get throttled to 2g speeds even though they swear it's 3g.
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:/
Do you get throttled as soon as you hit your Data limit?
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JD2589 said:
:/
Do you get throttled as soon as you hit your Data limit?
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First time I got throttled very quick. I barely got over 500 and was already throttled. This is pretty much 15kBytes per second download.
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FuMMoD said:
First time I got throttled very quick. I barely got over 500 and was already throttled. This is pretty much 15kBytes per second download.
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Well that definitely sucks, that's unusable..
Hopefully I'm privileged because I haven't been throttle. We shall see I'll keep this updated.
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JD2589 said:
Was waiting for you to come around.
Throttling is down to 20kbps!
Is their any way around it, like forcing CDMA mode or something to get 3G?
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dont you mean WCDMA? CDMA and GSM are completely two different networks that are not compatible with each other..
GSM - T-Mobile, AT&T / MetroPCS uses T-Mobile towers on the GSM side.
CDMA - Verizon, USCELLULAR, Sprint, MetroPCS (BEFORE T-Mobile Bought them)(or for Bring your on phone)
On GSM 3G is called WCDMA which is not the same as CDMA.

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dont you mean WCDMA? CDMA and GSM are completely two different networks that are not compatible with each other..
GSM - T-Mobile, AT&T / MetroPCS uses T-Mobile towers on the GSM side.
CDMA - Verizon, USCELLULAR, Sprint, MetroPCS (BEFORE T-Mobile Bought them)(or for Bring your on phone)
On GSM 3G is called WCDMA which is not the same as CDMA.
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Yes indeed I meant WCDMA, but Thanks for pointing it out.
Interesting, when I put WCDMA I get 3G but whenever I try to load a webpage it goes to H..
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Yes indeed I meant WCDMA, but Thanks for pointing it out.
Interesting, when I put WCDMA I get 3G but whenever I try to load a webpage it goes to H..
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Let me explain that
3G - UMTS - original 3G up to like 7.2megs something like that. 99 of the time when using data you will be on H/H+ in the USA anyway
H - HSPA = UP to 21mbps down
H+ - HSPAP (something like that there's other variations for that one) 21mbps down or DC is 42mbps down which T-Mobile has
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Let me explain that
3G - UMTS - original 3G up to like 7.2megs something like that. 99 of the time when using data you will be on H/H+ in the USA anyway
H - HSPA = UP to 21mbps down
H+ - HSPAP (something like that there's other variations for that one) 21mbps down or DC is 42mbps down which T-Mobile has
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Thanks for your explanation. :thumbup:
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[Q] Sprint Nexus 6 and Data and Voice at same time

All,
on my Note 3 I can talk and use data at the same time. I thought I had read somewhere that the Nexus 6 would do the same. But it seems that it will not.
I am wrong?
Thanks Dave

I am on AT&T and I have used DAT and a phone call at the same time. This has more to do with your carrier and not the actual device.
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Oems have made all phones that are sprint spark capable with only one pathway from modem. ..last phone on sprint that can do svlte is note 3 ...vzw is the same

Unfortunately it doesn't work on this phone =/
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The Nexus 6 will not do simultaneous voice and data on Sprint or Verizon. (Although on Verizon it should be possible in some areas when VoLTE starts rolling out, not 100% sure with Sprint.)

Same with sprint they are rolling out volte sometime 2015+

Thanks for the response.

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Same with sprint they are rolling out volte sometime 2015+
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I hope so. Would be nice.

flashback7 said:
I hope so. Would be nice.
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Seems on tmobile I can talk on the phone with my wifi tether running and do not lose connection.
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droidxxxxx said:
Seems on tmobile I can talk on the phone with my wifi tether running and do not lose connection.
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That's why T-Mobile is winning more customers and Sprint is sending techs to your house to help you set up your phone. Priorities. ???

VZW N6 2 Radios?

Does the vzw n6 have 2 radios to allow simultaneous call & data even in 3G?

No
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it can do volte though, which is better. thats voice and data, at the same time, over lte.

What if only 3G available?

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What if only 3G available?
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out of luck?
get tmobile, voice and data always work, regardless

How important is VoLTE?

I'm using a rom that doesn't support VOLTE or wifi calling... Wifi calling i can live without... Curious how important Volte is? I know it delivered HD voice, but thats about I know.
Was hoping to get some opinions from people smarter than me. Thanks.
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http://m.androidcentral.com/volte
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Araltd said:
I'm using a rom that doesn't support VOLTE or wifi calling... Wifi calling i can live without... Curious how important Volte is? I know it delivered HD voice, but thats about I know.
Was hoping to get some opinions from people smarter than me. Thanks.
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If you're in an LTE band 12 area, there is no corresponding GSM voice for it, so you'll need VoLTE to make and receive voice calls in that region.
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