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I bought a Sony Z1 last year (6906) Canada boot loader locked to use on T-mobiles USA LTE network and everything worked great, only issue was I lost my Wi-Fi calling feature on the new model as it was not directly from T-Mobile and really liked the feature.
I see that T-Mobile released an almost identical version (6916), only I think has more memory and less bands available.
I tried to pull the wifi .apk file off my original android phone to see if I could make it work, and would not install assuming brand specific of permissions related.
so, wanted to pick the forums brain and see if any one out there has done this, take the firmware for a T-mobile branded 6916 model ( I believe current version is 14.2.C.0.159, until new kit kat release comes out if and when of course ) and put it on the 6906 model so the wifi calling feature can work.
Bands look to be there, and 911 # is registered so hoping this could work, unless of course someone had a reliable work around for the Wi-Fi calling ?
Please excuse my noobness, new to Z1 forum so any and all help greatly appreciated
Thanks for any help in advance!
I have a Tab S2 T817W with LTE, unlocked and rooted.
I am leaving for Japan, China and Hong Kong for vacation soon. I was able to use the data SIM cards in those places to connect to Internet last time when I was there.
Is there anyway that I can use it as a regular phone, eg dial and receive phone calls with a local number?
I have hear 2 versions of an answer to this question & hope someone knows for real. Answer #1 is No as the versions of tablets sold in the USA do not have the calling hardware and answer #2 is probably yes with firmware mods as the hardware id the same in all versions. Anyone know the right answer?
I think all US LTE models have the phone removed, and I don't think hacking it in has worked thus far. You can sometimes do regular texting tho, but you may need to pay a little extra. As I just wrote in another thread, my SM-T719 works exactly like a phone tho, it's the international unlocked model, no carrier connection at all. Just pop in your sim and it's basically a huge smartphone I think the key here in the States is the network not recognizing the IMEI, so not knowing that it's a tablet.
YrrchSebor said:
I think all US LTE models have the phone removed, and I don't think hacking it in has worked thus far. You can sometimes do regular texting tho, but you may need to pay a little extra. As I just wrote in another thread, my SM-T719 works exactly like a phone tho, it's the international unlocked model, no carrier connection at all. Just pop in your sim and it's basically a huge smartphone. I'm using it on T-Mobile now as my only phone at the moment
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Is the model number SM-T719 (no letter) or something like SM-T719Y ??
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Is the model number SM-T719 (no letter) or something like SM-T719Y ??
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Just T719, no letter at all.
Verizon s2 lte can be used as a phone. Messaging+ from Verizon can enable calls and calls can be made and received. Only downside is, it is missing the 3g band. I live in Los Angeles so I always have lte signal.
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SO I picked up a 256GB emperor edition from Korea. It is Confirmed to have every single LTE band that AT&T uses. I put my sim in and only get 3G not 4G. Called at&t and they said they need to re-appropriate the IMEI for the USA as it comes up as a 2g/3g phone because the SKoren SK telecom IMEI assigned to the phone is different in the USA. IS that True? Anyone know how and if I can get the Phone to work on 4G LTE on at&t or do I have to hope they get it right? I paid $1400 for this phone I don't want to use a 64GB version I have been waiting to have 500+ GB on a phone for so long.. Any TIps? Hints? Recommendations?
EDIT: for those reading this thread for the first time. As of 10/9/17 I was able to get good LTE speeds as well as WIFI calling and Video Calling on my N950N note 8 Korean Exynos model. In a nutshell here is what I did to make it work.
Flash nemesis n950F rom to my phone.
Flash AT&T CSC to the phone using the CSC tool and you do have to modify one line (user RED FLAME) has this in the CSC thread.
Call at&t and give them the IMEI of a VOLTE wifi calling/video calling capable cellphone (I used my wifes S8+ - and yes you can DOUBLE USE IMEI on the same account)
I also did one other thing - Check page 14 for that information.
I just wanted to give a synopsis of this thread so new N950N and at&t owners don't feel like they are wasting their time searching XDA and google. I only wish other people did this when their problem is solved so people can easily see they are not in the wrong place and don't have to read tons of pages of stuff.
Comp1demon said:
SO I picked up a 256GB emperor edition from Korea. It is Confirmed to have every single LTE band that AT&T uses. I put my sim in and only get 3G not 4G. Called at&t and they said they need to re-appropriate the IMEI for the USA as it comes up as a 2g/3g phone because the SKoren SK telecom IMEI assigned to the phone is different in the USA. IS that True? Anyone know how and if I can get the Phone to work on 4G LTE on at&t or do I have to hope they get it right? I paid $1400 for this phone I don't want to use a 64GB version I have been waiting to have 500+ GB on a phone for so long.. Any TIps? Hints? Recommendations?
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Hi.
There is a thread somewhere here they were talking about similar problems.
What you where told is essentially correct. Though they also said that they needed a new sim card, too.
Hope this helps. Still waiting for my Note 8.
Too bad those devices do not have the CDMA bands...
I have the same model and same problem but with softbank, though softbank has been less helpful.. i read someone flashing a different csc (if its the right one) will "unblock" the phone? Would any exymos model csc work?
My roaming menu is also greyed out... not sure if that is related.
I think you just need to give them the IMEI and have them set it up for LTE in their system, since they don't by default allow LTE on bring your own devices.
Did you change the apn? I have the same phone on tmobile and i changed the apn to the tmobile apn and i have no problems with the phone.
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I think you just need to give them the IMEI and have them set it up for LTE in their system, since they don't by default allow LTE on bring your own devices.
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Just a quick comment - I think you mis-spoke. ATT Does allow LTE on Bring your own devices. I have been using G955F variants for the last 4 years and never had to do anything other than put the SIM card in for it to work. HOwever, LTE Enhanced Services are not available on Bring your own Devices. This includes HD Calling, Wifi Calling and Video Calling. BUT, LTE will work.
I don't know anything about the Korean Model so I hope the OP is able to get things straightened out - but other variants have always worked on ATT - including TMOBILE PHONES and international variants as well.
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Just a quick comment - I think you mis-spoke. ATT Does allow LTE on Bring your own devices. I have been using G955F variants for the last 4 years and never had to do anything other than put the SIM card in for it to work. HOwever, LTE Enhanced Services are not available on Bring your own Devices. This includes HD Calling, Wifi Calling and Video Calling. BUT, LTE will work.
I don't know anything about the Korean Model so I hope the OP is able to get things straightened out - but other variants have always worked on ATT - including TMOBILE PHONES and international variants as well.
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That's probably what I meant. I haven't been an AT&T customer for many years, and have been with T-mobile for all my smart phone career, and they don't require any special setup on their end for VoLTE, Wi-Fi calling, etc as I can confirm with my Korean Note 8. After somewhat jankily switching CSCs with a modified script that was originally made for S8 and 8+ phones I definitely have VoLTE and probably have Wi-Fi calling working without any communication to T-mobile.
Waiting on at&t now.. to see what happens.. SPEC for SPEC this phone is exactly the same as an at&t phone. It has every single band, not missing a single one. If you put the specs side by side there is ZERO difference. I changed the APN - there are 3 at&t choices. One gives me 3G the other 2 do not work. SO waiting on at&t to re-appropriate the IMEI to register as a note 8 on their network. I had not idea it was going to be this much of a pain in the arse. I was told by a few sellers, pop in your sim and your good to go. I did need a new sim since my note 4 sim did not fit in the note 8, so They gave me a new sim. I put the sim (using an adapter) back into my Note 4 until they change over the IMEI and the new sim works just fine on the note 4 - all my video calling, wifi calling and tethering work fine. So hoping I do not need to return this phone and use a 64GB model. I wish samsung would just release the 256 here on at&t like apple is doing with the iphone X. I would pay $1200 for it no problem. (and since the iphone X is $1149 with 256gb - I am sure samsung would do $999 or $1099 to undercut apple. But Samsung is going to epic fail and never give the US customers what they want.
Hi there, I would also like to have the Emperor's edition, and use it in Canada (Bell) and USA (T-Mobile or AT&T). Is N950N the correct model number for this edition? Does it come with dual sim? Thanks! So far I found an Ebay seller from Hong Kong with F950FD which looks to be 256GB Duos - I'm wondering what the difference is with N950N and whether I will have an issue with region lock?
Thanks for any comments...
I have the unlocked version on at&t and this is my son, just in case...
jocarog said:
I have the unlocked version on at&t and this is my son, just in case...
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Did you need a new sim card?
borijess said:
Did you need a new sim card?
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No, I was using it on a HTC10 and previously on a Note 4...
Totally DIsappointed... No way I am keeping this $1300 phone for how crappy it is on At&T.
They Finally Updated the IMEI so that is shows up as a next gen smartphone on at&t network and I get an LTE logo. I set my own ACCESS POINT as well as used all 3 that showed up automatically. ATT Phone, ATT NEXTGENPHONE and ATT UTDATA (Nextgen) + I did what was recommended on att.com for bringing over a phone that might not get the access point which was the same settings as ATT Phone - all of them gave me LTE on my bar and showed AT&T as the network. Every single LTE Band on this phone is the same as the official ATT note 8. Yet on my speed test I couldn't get better than 4MB/s down and 1.56MB/s up, my note 4 (pop the sim card back in there) even with 1 Bar on my phone I get 42MB/s download and like 10MB/s Upload.
IT is too late to call at&t tonight but I am extremely disappointed. I have wanted a phone with 256GB of memory for like 2 years now, and to have MicroSD expansion for just MUSIC (NOTHING ELSE).
If At&t can't get this note 8 to perform exactly like a at&t version would, then I either going back to my Note 4 or Perhaps the US Samsung unlocked version (which I already have but is not opened as I hoped to sell it and make a few hundred on it to make up for the $1300 I spent on this Emperor Edition.
Any advice?
Anyone want to buy it.. I paid $1299.99 Shipped from NK. Instead of returning it - if anyone wants to buy it, id do the same thing $1299.99 shipped anywhere in US or Canada. Perhaps it will work better on another network...
jocarog said:
I have the unlocked version on at&t and this is my son, just in case...
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Does your unlocked version work as it should.. FAST LTE 4G LTE? Does your WIFI and Video Calling work?
Comp1demon said:
Totally DIsappointed... No way I am keeping this $1300 phone for how crappy it is on At&T.
They Finally Updated the IMEI so that is shows up as a next gen smartphone on at&t network and I get an LTE logo. I set my own ACCESS POINT as well as used all 3 that showed up automatically. ATT Phone, ATT NEXTGENPHONE and ATT UTDATA (Nextgen) + I did what was recommended on att.com for bringing over a phone that might not get the access point which was the same settings as ATT Phone - all of them gave me LTE on my bar and showed AT&T as the network. Every single LTE Band on this phone is the same as the official ATT note 8. Yet on my speed test I couldn't get better than 4MB/s down and 1.56MB/s up, my note 4 (pop the sim card back in there) even with 1 Bar on my phone I get 42MB/s download and like 10MB/s Upload.
IT is too late to call at&t tonight but I am extremely disappointed. I have wanted a phone with 256GB of memory for like 2 years now, and to have MicroSD expansion for just MUSIC (NOTHING ELSE).
If At&t can't get this note 8 to perform exactly like a at&t version would, then I either going back to my Note 4 or Perhaps the US Samsung unlocked version (which I already have but is not opened as I hoped to sell it and make a few hundred on it to make up for the $1300 I spent on this Emperor Edition.
Any advice?
Anyone want to buy it.. I paid $1299.99 Shipped from NK. Instead of returning it - if anyone wants to buy it, id do the same thing $1299.99 shipped anywhere in US or Canada. Perhaps it will work better on another network...
Does your unlocked version work as it should.. FAST LTE 4G LTE? Does your WIFI and Video Calling work?
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Have you Odin the CSC and IMS? From what I have read that needs to be done?
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No, I haven't flashed the CSC profile, no wifi calling or VOLTE but internet speed is fast...
Comp1demon said:
Totally DIsappointed... No way I am keeping this $1300 phone for how crappy it is on At&T. .......
Any advice?
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tl;dr - Under Settings->Connections->More Settings there's an option titled Reset Network Settings and, i had to use that on my Korean, Note Fan Edition to get LTE working.
more detail on how i got VoLTE and HD Voice working.... i grabbed an ATT (Snapdragon) S8+ CSC and manually applied to the FE. To get HDVoice and VoLTE working, i called ATT and told them i was going to use my (no-longer used/retired) ATT Samsung S7Active with my cell number. this step was a must to get VoLTE working. once they associated S7Active IMEI with my cell number, i rebooted the Note FE and VoLTE was active. i occasionally receive calls and the HD Voice icon appears on the dialer screen; i assume the other person is calling me via Wifi when i see the icon. Video calling and Wifi calling haven't worked for me on none of my international devices. once i got my UK note 8, i applied the same CSC content (after rooting my device), i inserted the same ATT sim used in the Note FE, reset network settings and VoLTE and HD Voice (when receiving calls) still works.
I don't know about the Korean model, but here is how you get Volte on ATT on the Note 8 F model. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73851525&postcount=308 After you slightly modify the zip and flash this, you must call ATT and give the friendly customer service person the IMEI of a phone purchased from ATT directly that is roughly equivalent and had Volte and wifi calling features. I used an old S7. ATT will NOT accept an IMEI of any phone not sold by ATT. Once they put it into their system, reboot your Note 8 and whala - wifi calling and Volte work perfectly.
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I don't know about the Korean model, but here is how you get Volte on ATT on the Note 8 F model. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73851525&postcount=308 After you slightly modify the zip and flash this, you must call ATT and give the friendly customer service person the IMEI of a phone purchased from ATT directly that is roughly equivalent and had Volte and wifi calling features. I used an old S7. ATT will NOT accept an IMEI of any phone not sold by ATT. Once they put it into their system, reboot your Note 8 and whala - wifi calling and Volte work perfectly.
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Kind of a NOOB when it comes to all this. I haven't flashed or done any phone hacking in a few years (my s4 was the last phone I really played with).
SO I downloaded the CSC Selection V1.2.1 on Android Filehost
I honestly do not know what to do from here.
Thanks.
Comp1demon said:
Kind of a NOOB when it comes to all this. I haven't flashed or done any phone hacking in a few years (my s4 was the last phone I really played with).
SO I downloaded the CSC Selection V1.2.1 on Android Filehost
I honestly do not know what to do from here.
Thanks.
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did you try resetting network settings to at least get LTE going? Under Settings->Connections->More Settings there's an option titled Reset Network Settings and, i had to use that on my Korean, Note Fan Edition to get LTE working. Or are you good to go on LTE?
So I have a singapore 960 F/DS that I just got. What will I miss while using this in Canada?
1- Wifi calling / VoLTE (any workarounds without root)?
2- Samsung Pay (will android / google pay still work)?
3- If it supports all LTE bands, then will I have signal issues? I've heard of carrier aggregation and stuff, but it seems to have all bands
4- anything else worth considering?
Thanks!
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So I have a singapore 960 F/DS that I just got. What will I miss while using this in Canada?
1- Wifi calling / VoLTE (any workarounds without root)?
2- Samsung Pay (will android / google pay still work)?
3- If it supports all LTE bands, then will I have signal issues? I've heard of carrier aggregation and stuff, but it seems to have all bands
4- anything else worth considering?
Thanks!
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why would you go through the trouble of getting a rootable phone just to not root it but rhen want to achieve goals that require root?
I haven't rooted in years so I am kind of scared, although I used to be very techie before. Do I lose any functionality with root?
1- banking apps?
2- google device policy / corporate e-mail / outlook
3- play store
4- anything else?
Or is it fairly easy to bypass all that? Is root relatively easy for the singapore model?
hkalltheway said:
I haven't rooted in years so I am kind of scared, although I used to be very techie before. Do I lose any functionality with root?
1- banking apps?
2- google device policy / corporate e-mail / outlook
3- play store
4- anything else?
Or is it fairly easy to bypass all that? Is root relatively easy for the singapore model?
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You'll have to wait for more roms if you want to benefit from rooting. At the moment dr.ketan rom is missing csc features.
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hkalltheway said:
So I have a singapore 960 F/DS that I just got. What will I miss while using this in Canada?
1- Wifi calling / VoLTE (any workarounds without root)?
2- Samsung Pay (will android / google pay still work)?
3- If it supports all LTE bands, then will I have signal issues? I've heard of carrier aggregation and stuff, but it seems to have all bands
4- anything else worth considering?
Thanks!
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I have the same phone (960 F/DS). I got it primarily for the dual-SIM and 512GB and don't really have plans to root (those days are long gone for me)! Wifi Calling/VoLTE will not work. Samsung Pay kind of works (only with AmEx), but Google Pay works just fine. I'm with Rogers and have had no issues with reception (I'm in Vancouver and not sure about anything that's far away from a city). The only other thing worth considering is the warranty - we will get no support from Samsung Canada!
Hope that helps!
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I have the same phone (960 F/DS). I got it primarily for the dual-SIM and 512GB and don't really have plans to root (those days are long gone for me)! Wifi Calling/VoLTE will not work. Samsung Pay kind of works (only with AmEx), but Google Pay works just fine. I'm with Rogers and have had no issues with reception (I'm in Vancouver and not sure about anything that's far away from a city). The only other thing worth considering is the warranty - we will get no support from Samsung Canada!
Hope that helps!
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Yes, I'm also not comfortable with root. Android is open enough that I don't need root. However, I noticed that LTE speeds are much slower. I have two note 9 phones side by side...one canadian model and one F / DS...I am using Fido (Rogers)... at the same time, I am getting 25mbps on the F / DS, and 101 mbps on the Canadian variant...another thing I noticed is that when I call myself from the landline, sometimes the F / DS doesn't ring and the call goes straight to voicemail, while the canadian variant isn't showing this behavior. I am guessing it is because of LTE dropping to 3G, and sometimes that drop may not go well. Are you finding any of this?
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Yes, I'm also not comfortable with root. Android is open enough that I don't need root. However, I noticed that LTE speeds are much slower. I have two note 9 phones side by side...one canadian model and one F / DS...I am using Fido (Rogers)... at the same time, I am getting 25mbps on the F / DS, and 101 mbps on the Canadian variant...another thing I noticed is that when I call myself from the landline, sometimes the F / DS doesn't ring and the call goes straight to voicemail, while the canadian variant isn't showing this behavior. I am guessing it is because of LTE dropping to 3G, and sometimes that drop may not go well. Are you finding any of this?
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i have the same problems lte speed are lower, im on claro honduras, and i have a note 8 and the speed are faster
heara67 said:
i have the same problems lte speed are lower, im on claro honduras, and i have a note 8 and the speed are faster
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What's claro honduras? So your note 9 is slow but your note 8 is fast? Are both F / DS models?
hkalltheway said:
What's claro honduras? So your note 9 is slow but your note 8 is fast? Are both F / DS models?
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claro is the cell phone company, and yes both are F/DS maybe it has something to do with csc, because in latin america this year samsung change the exynos for snapdragon
I'm using my F/DS on ATT and have experienced no issues. I also have a F/DS note 8 and it isn't slower than my ATT note 8. I tested data speeds side by side for days. Sometimes the F was faster, other times the ATT I was faster, I don't know why. But v little difference. For me anyway.
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I'm using my F/DS on ATT and have experienced no issues. I also have a F/DS note 8 and it isn't slower than my ATT note 8. I tested data speeds side by side for days. Sometimes the F was faster, other times the ATT I was faster, I don't know why. But v little difference. For me anyway.
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How about carrier aggregation? I heard it doesn't work.
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I've seen that people on here have been flashing the Verizon variant with the AT&T via odin. I was thinking of buying a Verizon Variant and flashing it with AT&Tas well. But I would like to get some opinions first and see if anyone has had any trouble.
I haven't flashed AT&T on it but using on AT&T and it works just fine....
I'm not using it on AT&T, but haven't had a single issue on my network.
From what I understand, you may be fine on LTE, but you will not be able to use the 5G from AT&T on the Verizon phone.
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I haven't flashed AT&T on it but using on AT&T and it works just fine....
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S10 5G from Verizon without flashing on AT&T?
How? I put in my ATT Sim card, get signal but when I open Google chrome it turns into no signal or as if I didn't have a Sim in it. Frustrating.
Did you had it activated to Verizon at the beginning? I heard for it to work elsewhere it'd need to be activated with Verizon for 60 days, then I can be used anywhere. Not entirely sure. Can you confirm?