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'Clearer Photos' - written on the side of the box. The biggest hype surrounding the OnePlus 5 has been about the camera. On paper the specs look great, 'benchmark' photos and scores look good too. But in real world usage it's a big Fail. This is why..
All else being equal, more mega pixels means lower quality images. This may be a surprise to some. This is the reason. More pixels on a sensor means each pixel is smaller. Which means over the same time period less light is recorded on each pixel. To solve this problem there are two solutions. 1) Hold the shutter open longer to capture more light. Longer shutter times causes blurring and softness if any movement is present. 2) Increase the amplification from the sensor (ISO). This causes noise and degrades the image. The result is lower quality photos.
So why have a high Megapixel count? Resolution. In the early days of digital photography the low resolution from cameras was a limiting factor and you could easily see the pixels if you zoomed in. 1.3MP for example is 1280x1200 pixels. That's not going to look great on a high resolution screen or blown up. So what about the 20MP sensor in the OnePlus 5? Well that's 3'600x5'400 pixels! This is only useful if you're printing images out in a large poster size. With the tiny sensors in a mobile phone you'll only be able to produce good quality images at this resolution if there's tons of light and the scene is still.
Here's a newsflash for OnePlus: We don't use our mobile phones to take photos of trees in the sun (unless you're a phone reviewer). We use our phones to take photos of family, friends, pets, activities, often inside or at night and other low light scenarios and we post them on Facebook and Instagram.
We need in focus, non blurred, 'Clearer' photos that will mostly be viewed on other phones. This translates to phones with good low light performance with fast auto-focus. We don't need or want 20MP degrading that quality. We also need a better auto-focus system. Have a look at the last couple generations of the Samsung Galaxy to see how it should be done.
This is why the OnePlus 5 camera fails in real life usage and is a disappointment. Please listen OnePlus. Look at what the other manufacturers are doing and get it right on the OnePlus 6.
surprising post perhaps dual camera understanding is requiredbefore writting so much about powerful dual camera phone
Reading this was such a waste of time
Perfect summary of whats going on. Only god knows what was going on in OP's marketeers. "Clearer photos" my ***!
I am so much disappoint!
Edit: The sad thing is that I even think (then again, I'm an idiot..) their strategy can make sense. Yes, they could have put ONE sensor in there that yields better results than the current setup. But having TWO cameras is the new trend and, thus, is way easier to market. Even the new Samsung Note will feature two sensors. So OP had to choose between a better camera and less revenue or a worse camera and more revenue.
Unfortunately they picked the latter.
How many threads are going to be create just to talk about camera ?
As already said in others threads, people expected a perfect DSLR with 40Mpx and a perfect night quality image. Come on are you serious ? This is marketing people, wake up, think with your brain sometime please.
I did not even read OP, such a waste of time to see an other person complaining about the camera.
We know what your are going to do next. RMA and send back the phone. Nice, change phone if you are not happy, but stop pollute this forum with one nth useless thread. Thanks.
casual_kikoo said:
How many threads are going to be create just to talk about camera ?
As already said in others threads, people expected a perfect DSLR with 40Mpx and a perfect night quality image. Come on are you serious ? This is marketing people, wake up, think with your brain sometime please.
I did not even read OP, such a waste of time to see an other person complaining about the camera.
We know what your are going to do next. RMA and send back the phone. Nice, change phone if you are not happy, but stop pollute this forum with one nth useless thread. Thanks.
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Ok, creating an other topic was maybe useless but... The fact is that at the moment, the camera is very disappointing, to say the least. Especially when the device was marketed as the new camera standard, "clearer photos" etc.
I think nobody was expecting a DSLR camera, but maybe more than the overly washed, grainy or over saturated and sharpened shots that it actually produces. C'mon, I upgraded from an old Nexus 5 and expected a dramatic improvement in the camera quality. I am delighted to say this is not the case.
The big question now is : will these issues be software fixable ?
DarkAdrien said:
Ok, creating an other topic was maybe useless but... The fact is that at the moment, the camera is very disappointing, to say the least. Especially when the device was marketed as the new camera standard, "clearer photos" etc.
I think nobody was expecting a DSLR camera, but maybe more than the overly washed, grainy or over saturated and sharpened shots that it actually produces. C'mon, I upgraded from an old Nexus 5 and expected a dramatic improvement in the camera quality. I am delighted to say this is not the case.
The big question now is : will these issues be software fixable ?
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If I'm good, each iteration of OnePlus device get a better camera with software update.
You are probably right but there are things you can accept when you pay 300$ that you can not accept anymore when you pay 550$. Rising the price also means raising the expectations.
Please will people stop making random rant posts and freaking out?!
The phone has been released for a week now and isn't even globally available yet.
There's been 3 software updates already to fix issues.
Just wait about a month and then if it's still crap you can complain.
The problem is that in many countries, you can freely return you device within 14 days after you purchased it. So waiting one Month with nothing but hopes and wishes is a costly option.
djsubterrain said:
Please will people stop making random rant posts and freaking out?!
The phone has been released for a week now and isn't even globally available yet.
There's been 3 software updates already to fix issues.
Just wait about a month and then if it's still crap you can complain.
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A crap phone is a crap phone. There's nothing to suggest the 5 is anything but a middle tier phone with lots of problems. No excuses from One Plus.
Batfink33 said:
A crap phone is a crap phone. There's nothing to suggest the 5 is anything but a middle tier phone with lots of problems. No excuses from One Plus.
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Middle tier...with specs rivalling and surpassing the most expensive phones you can buy.
OK.
Go away.
Batfink33 said:
A crap phone is a crap phone. There's nothing to suggest the 5 is anything but a middle tier phone with lots of problems. No excuses from One Plus.
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Why you have to cry in every single thread, over and over again? Return it and buy a better phone.
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Middle tier...with specs rivalling and surpassing the most expensive phones you can buy.
OK.
Go away.
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Nonsense. A fast SOC and lots of RAM doesn't make up for fake promises of a great camera and lies about benchmarks, poor design, little features etc. Give OP credit when they deserve it and heat when they don't. The OP5 is a big let down, they need to sort themselves out.
B3501 said:
Nonsense. A fast SOC and lots of RAM doesn't make up for fake promises of a great camera and lies about benchmarks, poor design, little features etc. Give OP credit when they deserve it and heat when they don't. The OP5 is a big let down, they need to sort themselves out.
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It's also a week old, are you telling me no other major phone manufacturer has issues when their phones have just been released? There's been plenty of those issues with Samsung, Apple and others.
Even Apple's own depth effect had to have multiple software updates before it worked properly.
bus_ter said:
We don't use our mobile phones to take photos of trees in the sun (unless you're a phone reviewer). We use our phones to take photos of family, friends, pets, activities, often inside or at night and other low light scenarios and we post them on Facebook and Instagram.
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Don't you? We do; mostly pictures taken outside. I guess you need to get a phone which works for you.
thread closed,
Please use this one to discuss the camera issues you are having:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/camera-thread-t3624645
thanks
Wolf
Initial review and comparison after 1 day.
I am a self certified phone junky and a proud dad and here is my initial review and comparison between the OnePlus 5 and the Samsung Galaxy S8,
Design.
Well this one is a no brainer the Samsung Galaxy S8 makes the OnePlus 5 look dated even though both of the screens are excellent in terms of contrast, viewing in direct sunlight the curved edges and form factor are a massive win for me with the Samsung.
Win Samsung Galaxy S8
Build Quality
Both phones are superbly built I was very apprehensive about the OnePlus 5 due to hearing lots of horror stories about the fit and finish of the product and luckily enough mine is free of any of these defects.
Win Samsung Galaxy S8 and OnePlus 5
Features
The stock OOS has some very nice features such as gesture support, remapping the capacitive buttons to perform other functions and is very well laid out and easy to find what you need.
The Samsung is well a complete mess way too many options in way too many categories and you have to search to find anything as it can be buried very deep.
The vast majority of the features on the Galaxy S8 I do not use nor care for basically.
Win OnePlus 5
Camera
This is a big one after reading review after review I did not have very high expectations of the OnePlus 5 specially when compared to my other phone the Samsung Galaxy S8.
However until you zoom in the photo’s actually look pretty good as long as you use HQ or Pro mode (the HDR modes are very poor)
I am definitely not a camera expert and what makes a good camera for me is can it take a “Clear Photo” of my manic 4 year old daughter without any motion blur or other artifacts.
The camera on the Galaxy S8 is much better you can rely on this to take excellent photos every time you want to use it and even when zoomed in the photo’s remain clear, crisp with no water color effect which the OnePlus 5 has.
Win Samsung Galaxy S8
Performance.
This is very easy for me to state the OnePlus 5 is one of the fastest phones I have ever owned and it has none of the lag or stutter of the Galaxy S8 (why oh why with so much power under the hood does the S8 have stutters in the UI)
Easy victory for the OnePlus 5
Thanks for your summary which in many aspects copies my own experience (presently have both and have to decide which to keep).
I'm still looking for a good camera app from playstore to copy the excellent image processing of the Samsung camera app.
To add to the points above: from my comparison the OP5 is vastly superior in GPS reception to my (Eynos) S8 !
s3axel said:
Thanks for your summary which in many aspects copies my own experience (presently have both and have to decide which to keep).
I'm still looking for a good camera app from playstore to copy the excellent image processing of the Samsung camera app.
To add to the points above: from my comparison the OP5 is vastly superior in GPS reception to my (Eynos) S8 !
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Try Cameringo+, that has some good processing ...
So how did the OP5 do at photos of your 4 year old? I have a 1yr and 5yr old and have the same struggles to get clear shots.
atistang said:
So how did the OP5 do at photos of your 4 year old? I have a 1yr and 5yr old and have the same struggles to get clear shots.
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It did ok although not as life like as the S8.
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It did ok although not as life like as the S8.
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Looks like it focused good though. Was that HQ or HDR? I've read recently that the OP5 seems to have sharper pictures in HQ mode.
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Looks like it focused good though. Was that HQ or HDR? I've read recently that the OP5 seems to have sharper pictures in HQ mode.
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I think they where all in HQ
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It did ok although not as life like as the S8.
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Oh she's adorable! So cute. I'm no photographer, but the picture quality looks good to me.
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Updated to 4.5.5 yesterday and took some more photos was quite surprised by the results.
Link to the originals https://goo.gl/photos/kzY2SeMxPZ5yXmXv8
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daleski75 said:
Updated to 4.5.5 yesterday and took some more photos was quite surprised by the results.
Link to the originals https://goo.gl/photos/kzY2SeMxPZ5yXmXv8
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Very nice!! Moving kids was the Achilles heel of OP3T :good::good: With op3t I basically could not a get a decent picture with my kid unless she was in complete standstill*
*You need Tom Cruise for that – i.e. Mission Impossible X
Hi,
So I recently pickedup Oneplus 5. I had Honor 8 Pro already. I was planning to sell the Honor 8 Pro and Make Oneplus 5 my daily driver. I was looking forward to "Dual Cameras. Clearer Photos"
But the moment I started snapping some pics, I was left dismayed by the sub-par, borderline poor image quality produced by on the paper very good cameras! The photos were full of noise and a lot dark! I expected good low light performance from a 1.7 aperture lens but in reality, the camera kept pushing the ISO and shutter speed to really high levels in very good and well lit conditions as well!
The night shots were so bad I didn't even bother keeping them. Why does such a GOOD on paper camera take such crappy photos? The fine detail is smudged up. The dynamic range is horrendous, HDR or no HDR. The lights get blown out and the darks are too dark to keep any details! Most pics come under exposed.
I am really disappointed. And from the research I did afterwards (I wish I had done it before...). It seems its an open-secret and Oneplus aren't really keen on fixing it...
Please check this Album. I have taken similar photos with Honor 8 Pro and then Oneplus 5.
I might add more later.
Let me know which one is better...
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmc38Zwe
In all cropped sets, first pic is by Huawei Honor 8 Pro(H) & second pic is by Oneplus 5(O).
Photo 1
1 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
1 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 2
2 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
2 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 3
3 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
3 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 4
4 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
4 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 5
5 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
5 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 6
6 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
6 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 7
7 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
7 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Of course I have to sell one. As much as I like the dash charging, Better codec support, and amoled screen (night reading)...I am really torn to part with such a good camera phone.
EDIT:
Attached pics (full pics in Flickr Album):
1) Oneplus 5 Auto
2) Oneplus 5 Pro
3) Oneplus 5 Gcam HDR+
4) Honor 8 Pro Auto
i don't know dude those pics look weird n funky , n even if the op5 cam is bad it ain't THAT bad as shown in the pics , i'm really confused
To me the pictures looks ok, but I do not expected a professional picture from a smartphone camera :good: as I it always said to a friend of mine that always trolled smartphone cameras, if you want high quality and professional looking pictures buy a professional camera :laugh:
Sent from my OnePlus 5 using XDA Labs
GraveDigger176 said:
To me the pictures looks ok, but I do not expected a professional picture from a smartphone camera :good: as I it always said to a friend of mine that always trolled smartphone cameras, if you want high quality and professional looking pictures buy a professional camera :laugh:
Sent from my OnePlus 5 using XDA Labs
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Always an excuse to feel better about your expense...
Well. I am not asking for PROFESSIONAL looking picture. See the other phone I posted has 4 less mega pixels. An aperture of 2.2 compared to 1.7. But still it takes sharper and less noisy images with greater detail and colour accuracy.
Lol just go back to the honor 8 pro then? I dont know how those photos came up that crappy but I get decent shots on the one plus 5. Try usin gcam.
Not sure what's to complain about. It's a cell phone camera of course it's gonna be pretty crappy. What about everything else about the phone? I get 8-9 hours sot every day no matter what I do on it. I think that more than makes up for a camera.
I Took this with my op5 and it's better than all of your pictures. Go get a professional camera and a flip phone.
se7ensde said:
I Took this with my op5 and it's better than all of your pictures. Go get a professional camera and a flip phone.
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I think that stupid argument has already been raised by one person. What are you comparing that shot against?
If you had a Honor 8 pro. You would have gotten a better version of it.
So please if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense. I can also take great shots using mods and what not then tweak them on PC and post.
Edit: And if you consider complaining about poor camera performance on a flagship with 'Dual cameras. Clearer photos' tagline; then you should get the Fanboy of the year award!
All i see is SALT these days.
NHS2008 said:
I think that stupid argument has already been raised by one person. What are you comparing that shot against?
If you had a Honor 8 pro. You would have gotten a better version of it.
So please if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense. I can also take great shots using mods and what not then tweak them on PC and post.
Edit: And if you consider complaining about poor camera performance on a flagship with 'Dual cameras. Clearer photos' tagline; then you should get the Fanboy of the year award!
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Well you say ".. if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense." , so.. what did you contribute besides saying that your honor is SO much better than an OP and just showing up Pictures where I dont think that an OP5 would shot SUCH bad shots and also These are just random shots where also half of These look very similar to me.
Also,you know, this is the OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion Forum, so yeah this is neither some News nor a Guide and also no Discussion as ist just plain complaining from your side.
So to contribute for the forum and all the People here im going to Report this thread and hope that other People do this too.
It's definitely not a secret that One Plus has a terrible camera app. My $150 Samsung Galaxy J3 could take better pictures, especially in low light. If the camera app on the OP5 wasn't such utter crap there wouldn't be a very long thread on XDA filled with people using the Google Pixel camera app on this phone. The OP5 is never going to be a good camera phone. One Plus only supports Camera 1 API which is very dated and limited. Google introduced the Camera 2 API on the Nexus 5X which I think was running Marshmallow.
If you want proof the camera will never be fixed just look at the 5T. One Plus did not tout that as a great camera phone like they did with the OP5. One Plus also ditched the telephoto lense in favor of a low light lense because they don't know how to fix the software issue with the OP5 camera. Like you said on paper the OP5 has great camera hardware. But One Plus doesn't have the talented software engineers that could actually take advantage of it.
I can't see myself buying another One Plus phone because I think they are a terrible company. Whatever phone One Plus releases is based on a model from Oppo. The difference? The One Plus version will have better on paper hardware specs and the Oppo version will have far better build quality. The Oppo version will also take much better pictures.
The build quality of the OP5 is lousy. My first one was unusable after about 3 months because of a defective motherboard and even though the phone was under warranty One Plus customer service and warranty repair is so horrible the only way I could get a working phone was to file an insurance claim and pay $150 deductible.
I was sent a brand new replacement phone and right out of the box the headphone jack was bad. I had to switch to Bluetooth because wired headphones don't work--the headphone plugs fall right out of the jack.
Then there's OOS. It's the programming equivalent of a custom ROM that you might flash on another phone. I do a clean flash every time there is a build update because dirty flashes consistently resulted in problems. A stock ROM should not be coded that poorly but it's an open secret that One Plus lost all of its best software engineers and the talent drain forced them to combine development of Oxygen and Hydrogen (the Chinese operating system) under one roof and all the programmers they have left are from the Hydrogen side. The problem with that is that One Plus is a very minor brand in Asia so they don't attract the best talent.
There aren't even plans to release an official version of Lineage Oreo for this phone. The OP5 was only sold for 4 months. If One Plus doesn't care about this phone why should major software devs?
NHS2008 said:
I think that stupid argument has already been raised by one person. What are you comparing that shot against?
If you had a Honor 8 pro. You would have gotten a better version of it.
So please if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense. I can also take great shots using mods and what not then tweak them on PC and post.
Edit: And if you consider complaining about poor camera performance on a flagship with 'Dual cameras. Clearer photos' tagline; then you should get the Fanboy of the year award!
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I didn't tweak anything that's the default quality and far better than any of the pictures posted by the honor 8 on OP. And I will say whatever I want and I did contribute something for comparison all your doing is running your mouth. If you don't like the op5 then get the f*** of the forum for it.
NHS2008 said:
Hi,
So I recently pickedup Oneplus 5. I had Honor 8 Pro already. I was planning to sell the Honor 8 Pro and Make Oneplus 5 my daily driver. I was looking forward to "Dual Cameras. Clearer Photos"
But the moment I started snapping some pics, I was left dismayed by the sub-par, borderline poor image quality produced by on the paper very good cameras! The photos were full of noise and a lot dark! I expected good low light performance from a 1.7 aperture lens but in reality, the camera kept pushing the ISO and shutter speed to really high levels in very good and well lit conditions as well!
The night shots were so bad I didn't even bother keeping them. Why does such a GOOD on paper camera take such crappy photos? The fine detail is smudged up. The dynamic range is horrendous, HDR or no HDR. The lights get blown out and the darks are too dark to keep any details! Most pics come under exposed.
I am really disappointed. And from the research I did afterwards (I wish I had done it before...). It seems its an open-secret and Oneplus aren't really keen on fixing it...
Please check this Album. I have taken similar photos with Honor 8 Pro and then Oneplus 5.
I might add more later.
Let me know which one is better...
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LOL, personnaly it's the worst pics ever on both model.... Seriously you have use Zoom on all picture and save with 50% jpg for post on fliker? Even my first Numerique Cam (1024*768) take better pictures
I took a picture just for you
BFMSAND said:
Well you say ".. if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense." , so.. what did you contribute besides saying that your honor is SO much better than an OP and just showing up Pictures where I dont think that an OP5 would shot SUCH bad shots and also These are just random shots where also half of These look very similar to me.
Also,you know, this is the OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion Forum, so yeah this is neither some News nor a Guide and also no Discussion as ist just plain complaining from your side.
So to contribute for the forum and all the People here im going to Report this thread and hope that other People do this too.
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How did I contribute? I posted pics taken from both phones!
Please see the word I have highlighted above. Go ahead and report. Mr. FanBOY.
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All i see is SALT these days.
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se7ensde said:
I didn't tweak anything that's the default quality and far better than any of the pictures posted by the honor 8 on OP. And I will say whatever I want and I did contribute something for comparison all your doing is running your mouth. If you don't like the op5 then get the f*** of the forum for it.
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Hahaha...good joke. Please post the full image then.
Pho3nX said:
LOL, personnaly it's the worst pics ever on both model.... Seriously you have use Zoom on all picture and save with 50% jpg for post on fliker? Even my first Numerique Cam (1024*768) take better pictures
I took a picture just for you
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No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
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No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
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No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
> All your pics are ugly
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
> Not an example, just a pic in my kitchen without light (just normal light) and again compressed by casimage (host).. and this "poor" pic is x4 better than your posted quality pics. Even a blinded man can see that
We can talk without be only on the defensive way... If you're always right, do not write on a forum
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How did I contribute? I posted pics taken from both phones!
Please see the word I have highlighted above. Go ahead and report. Mr. FanBOY.
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Hahaha...good joke. Please post the full image then.
No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
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All those pictures are fake. Do you even have OnePlus 5 bro?
Can you please post one more image with OnePlus watermark?
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No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
> All your pics are ugly
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
> Not an example, just a pic in my kitchen without light (just normal light) and again compressed by casimage (host).. and this "poor" pic is x4 better than your posted quality pics. Even a blinded man can see that
We can talk without be only on the defensive way... If you're always right, do not write on a forum
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No point in arguing with a troll
JerryXss said:
All those pictures are fake. Do you even have OnePlus 5 bro?
Can you please post one more image with OnePlus watermark?
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Here ya go...straight off the phone.
Edit: Added another pic...?
The softness of Oneplus 5 main cam pics is a known issue (aka water colour effect); I have compared the pics from OP5 with LG G6 and Samsung Note 4. (My opinion = Note 4 was best). I was as disappointed as you are now, i suppose. However, since I had no choice but to use OP5, I found certain workarounds. Hopefully they'll help you too.
1) ALWAYS use manual mode for normal photos! (no need to tweak any settings, keep all on auto. Manual mode apparently doesn't use the same compression algo that main cam does => sharpness increased & noise reduction improved)
2) Check out the 100% jpeg mod in the forum. It's really works
3) Don't zoom in on every pic. I know it sounds silly but it's like a psychological itch you must scratch - don't. On the whole, the pics are pretty awesome if you just enjoy them as they are and not analyse too deep.
Cheers!
PS : Apologies for not being able to post comparison pics, I don't have those phones anymore. Just take my word for it
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The softness of Oneplus 5 main cam pics is a known issue (aka water colour effect); I have compared the pics from OP5 with LG G6 and Samsung Note 4. (My opinion = Note 4 was best). I was as disappointed as you are now, i suppose. However, since I had no choice but to use OP5, I found certain workarounds. Hopefully they'll help you too.
1) ALWAYS use manual mode for normal photos! (no need to tweak any settings, keep all on auto. Manual mode apparently doesn't use the same compression algo that main cam does => sharpness increased & noise reduction improved)
2) Check out the 100% jpeg mod in the forum. It's really works
3) Don't zoom in on every pic. I know it sounds silly but it's like a psychological itch you must scratch - don't. On the whole, the pics are pretty awesome if you just enjoy them as they are and not analyse too deep.
Cheers!
PS : Apologies for not being able to post comparison pics, I don't have those phones anymore. Just take my word for it
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I had note 4 too and it took great pics.
Yes. I have found out that manual mode takes more cleaner pics compared to auto.
I am using the Gcam mod and it actually does some justice to the sensor on Oneplus 5!
I was thinking of using the 100% quality mod but I read it makes the file size really large.
I don't use the zoom feature though.
Thanks for understanding my perspective.
OP5 photos
First, I strongly believe that sub $300 phones can do almost everything you'll ever need
in your Android phone as Budget phones keep getting better and better.
Realme x2 is the latest proof of this and it took me some time to research to come to
this conclusion from this thread
I was about settling for Mi 9 Lite (Mi CC9) when the global version of X2 came out
and it turns out that the only thing I will miss is IR blaster, which is not a deal-breaker
when you compare it to the things I could gain with Realme X2 over it.
I just ordered Realme X2 Global version (8/128G) here for $279 with free shipping which is fast.
You could even get a better deal with 11.11 festival around the corner but this is a great
value. And as my tradition is, I always discuss the first things I do with a new phone.
BOOTLOADER UNLOCK
This one is still a mystery on how to unlock the bootloader but a mystery I am determined
to find an answer to before my phone arrives in about 2 weeks.
TWRP, ROOT, AND MAGISK
I am not sure how much bloatware is in X2 Global version but I usually use phones
with root access so, I will have to get that.
I am a bit worried about the poor Dev community response to this great phone but I am
not perturbed bc it is still a new phone.
ALL KINDS OF TEST
I don't usually believe in antutu benchmarks but I'll add the test for others who will love to see it.
I am a real-life day to day usage test kind of person. Wifi download speeds, file copy and write speeds,
LTE download speeds, multiple SOT test, multiple battery drain/Charging test, NFC test, Gcam, Photos and
videos, inbuilt mic recording quality, GPS test, Bluetooth tests, OTG test etc.
SD730G is here to stay and will still be a 2020 budget king SoC contender so, you cannot go wrong with
Realme X2
Good post.
What some people don't realise that the difference between 730G and 855+ SoC is very minor and you can't feel it in your every day use. But for some reason people are willing to pay $200-$300 more for a 855+ device
Also the new hyp about over 100MP cameras is pretty riddiculous. Taking 100MP photos everyday is just so unpractical and more often than not, it would distort the quality of the photo.
I am pretty hopeful that the dev community will pick up once the device is a little older e.g. in 6 to 8 months time. We should be able to unlock the bootloader and get custom ROMs for it.
Jeanz Sensation said:
Good post.
What some people don't realise that the difference between 730G and 855+ SoC is very minor and you can't feel it in your every day use. But for some reason people are willing to pay $200-$300 more for a 855+ device
Also the new hyp about over 100MP cameras is pretty riddiculous. Taking 100MP photos everyday is just so unpractical and more often than not, it would distort the quality of the photo.
I am pretty hopeful that the dev community will pick up once the device is a little older e.g. in 6 to 8 months time. We should be able to unlock the bootloader and get custom ROMs for it.
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The main beef I had with realme marketing strategy was the close proximity of X2 and X2pro
The X2pro took out the shine from X2 a bit as I strongly believed that X2 is a better all-round phone
than Redmi Note 8pro. They should have given it 3 - 6 months Gap before marketing the pro version
Xaiomi selling Mi Note 10 with (SD 730G) way higher than X2 is a great marketing Advantage for
Realme X2 which is not doing too badly on the megapixels count race. Megapixels don't count
all that much (ask Pixel and iPhone) good sensors and software are way more important.
Once the dev community picks up, you can even tweak this phone to get an improved
performance and software experience.
I am not interested in spending an extra $150 - 250 for SD855 it makes no sense to pay that
to get 4k 60fsp that I may not ever use as 4k30fsp is large enough. It's like paying more to
get a more power-hungry processor, Power draining 90Hz and stereo speaker when I
consume all my media with headset or Bluetooth, Yeah! I'll pass, not a heavy gamer and even if I do, SD730G can game heavy. The real-life difference is so minute and insignificant. Unfortunately, some people still buy phones only antutu benchmark scores
Like Bolumstar said, Realme killed the x2 when they released the x2pro almost immediately. A quick search of realme x2 on google, and all you will see is realme x2pro. It was really annoying cos this is a great around phone. 730G is as good as it gets for me. Anything higher is like killing an ant with a sledgehammer. What exactly am I gonna do with 108mp camera? Take a picture of the solar system? 64mp is already crazy enough. 108mp is madness.
I have the China version and I can't wait to install the global rom on it. I'm hoping on all the tech guys here to come up with some instructions on how to go about. Thanks
we can install the global rom on the CN version?
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we can install the global rom on the CN version?
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I hope so. Hardware is the same, so it is possible to install Global on it... I think so.
acefile1031 said:
we can install the global rom on the CN version?
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unfortunately you cant?
acefile1031 said:
we can install the global rom on the CN version?
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No for now but when custom Recovery and Roms comes out you will be able to do that
uninstalling apps store browser and wallet app through adb command is also very convenient
It's here people! And it is gorgeous
Original EU version 8/128G
I am loving it. Got the latest update and the
Night mode is legit
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730G is as good as it gets for me. Anything higher is like killing an ant with a sledgehammer.
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You said it. Totally agree. I'm a Pixel 3a user (which has the even "worse" 670), and I definitively don't think that I will need even a Hertz more of CPU. And I'm surely not the "average user" person.
I'm thinking of actually buying this for my mother or give her the Pixel 3a and take this one, but I think I kinda fall in love with the Pixel experience right now (also if Android 10 is pretty buggy IMHO).
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You said it. Totally agree. I'm a Pixel 3a user (which has the even "worse" 670), and I definitively don't think that I will need even a Hertz more of CPU. And I'm surely not the "average user" person.
I'm thinking of actually buying this for my mother or give her the Pixel 3a and take this one, but I think I kinda fall in love with the Pixel experience right now (also if Android 10 is pretty buggy IMHO).
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The Pixel 3a is a rip-off in comparision. BTW. it is not all about performance, the 730G is much more efficient.
Realme x2 is a great phone. On the processor you have already said enough, the cost difference with the slightly more powerful processors is too much not to consider the best 730g of these.
Obviously the performance of a smartphone is not the result of the soc alone, but the X2 is the set of these, of a good amount of ram, 8GB in LPDDR4X, a UFS 2.1 internal storage, a super amoled FHD + display with a readability spectacular in all light conditions and with any reading angle. I use it with a Samsung V3 512 GB sd card and the file transfer from the internal storage to the latter is very fast. the connectivity sector is also excellent, good wifi and LTE reception, excellent bluetooth, completed by the presence of the NFC. as for energy consumption it is easy to spend praise, I read the battery drain on the forum, well I have no knowledge of it, I have always used the Ampere widget on the home to keep the current constantly under control and so far I never had having seen a smartphone consume only 100 mh at rest between 350 and 700 in use, even heavy. To this must be added the VOOC recharging speed which is really fast and unimpeded, I explain, with the redmi you have the quick charge which should give almost the same performance, but from personal experience I know it is not so, while I loaded with a charger quick 3 the phone became a stove, temperatures between 45 and 50 degrees, throttling and reducing the charging current from 3200 m to just 1500. The Realme quietly charges with temperatures of only 30 ° at 3400 mh and drops only on '86% of the battery at 1500 as rightly needs to be.
I now come to what I think is a huge mistake that all average users make when they choose to buy one phone over another. The first question is: "How many megapixels does the camera have?"... In my opinion, a smartphone is a smartphone, it could even have six thousand megapixels, it can never, ever have the performance of a camera, even simply of average price . Photography is not done with megapixels, but with good quality optical lens, with shots chosen through optical and non-digital zoom, with lighting reading systems for choosing the right exposure times and apertures... The smartphone in my opinion it is enough that you make decent pictures of your daughter's birthday and pictures of the holiday and that's it. I give an example... How many of us really want to go around in the dark countryside to photograph the stars with the astrography function??? Because only in this way the stars are photographed, without optical noise of city lights, and I add with exposure times that they would like a tripod that follows the rotation.
The Realme as a photographic sector also decently answers with the camera stock. It has a bit too much saturation in the colors, but if like me you are content to take "normal" photos, giving up slowmotion, night photos, just look for a decent gcam that allows you to set the white control in the settings, AWB, and the HDR+ options and it becomes spectacular. Obviously this makes it clear that the photo hardware is excellent and a bit more effort than Realme would be enough to improve the software and the stock camera would be enough.
So far I have always had mid-range smartphones, starting with the legendary OnePlus One, going from Redmi Note 5 Pro and Redmi note 7. everyone has endured shameless modding, the One has seen six versions of android and hundreds of roms, and it scared me a little the fact that the Realme X2, both, we hope, because new, and because as has been said above was overwhelmed by the Realme X2 Pro, it still didn't have a good community dev. Instead I must say with great satisfaction that even as it is, stock, with a bit of debloat from adb, with AdGuard that removes the ads from the browsers, with Sd Maid pro that keeps it clean thanks to the scheduler, I don't even feel the lack in the slightest of custom roms and, even for the first time, even root.
Of course if there would be everything it would be easier, but, which I do not understand, Realme seems to put stakes to unlock the bootloader, in my opinion or give it a chance without detracting from the phone reducing it category in the security environment or not. ..
But this is a strategy speech and we will see how much will be exceeded by the spread of the telephone. In fact I am convinced that the development community is regulated by the demand and the offer, the more we will be the owners of the device the more modding demand there will be and the more we will have ...
OPPO posted the first preview images of the Find X5 series on their socials. What is your first impression?
My first impressions were, the new camera design and the collaboration with one of the biggest brands, hassleblad, then the ceramic back glass, it's incredible
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MariSilicon X is OPPO's self-developed imaging NPU + there's a cooperation with Hasselblad.. core feature will be photography I guess, but Hasselblad has its background in lenses. They showed this moving lenses at the INNO day, that's why I think photography will be the main thing, not videography.
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The only con is the loss of the Micro lens from the X3 Pro, which was, in my opinion, one of its coolest features. I'm also very curious about the Mediated 9000 performances and definitely the MariSiliconX processing.
Concerning the design, nothing very exciting so far, but the white version is the one that's catching my eyes.
I'm really waiting to see how its competing against the OnePlus 9 Pro, that has quite great camera lenses and picture processing.
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My first impressions were, the new camera design and the collaboration with one of the biggest brands, hassleblad, then the ceramic back glass, it's incredible
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Same for me, the partnership is what first blew my mind. I can't find comparison photos yet though.
Ceramic back in white is *chef's kiss*
thank you for sharing this information.
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I'm really waiting to see how its competing against the OnePlus 9 Pro, that has quite great camera lenses and picture processing.
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Surely it's main "competitor" will be the OnePlus 10 Pro?
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Surely it's main "competitor" will be the OnePlus 10 Pro?
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I wouldn't say that you can compete against yourself, but yes, their technical sheets are so alike that the only major differences are the design itself and the OS.
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Surely it's main "competitor" will be the OnePlus 10 Pro?
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Depending on the specs you base the "competition" on. I think the only thing they have that is similar is their OS - both based on Android 12. Visually, Find X5 Pro is better, though it is subjective.
What were you comparing the devices on?
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I wouldn't say that you can compete against yourself, but yes, their technical sheets are so alike that the only major differences are the design itself and the OS.
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Don't forget the MariSilicon X NPU.
Unimpressed, to be honest. Bought the Find X5 and the display and camera are both less vibrant than my Fund X2 Neo. It also has terrible viewing angles. The screen has a greenish hue when angled slightoy. Edge lighting doesn’t work. As for the HDR on video playback, it’s barely noticeable. Really disappointed with it, to get honest.