Like many of you, I've had my phone for over two years now - that's quite some time! In the span of time I've owned this phone, I never unlocked the bootloader, rooted, installed a custom ROM, flashed any unofficial updates or modified anything in any way.
However, performance has decreased. A lot. Apps take a lot of time to open, the launcher reloads on the regular, SystemUI crashes on a weekly basis, some apps fail to start and they only finally run after multiple attempts. And, even though i set my SD card as internal storage, not many apps can be moved there and it's all fighting for storage in the narrow narrow internal storage partition. The RAM situation is even worse, with apps like Spotify and Chrome being killed all the time. Install one App too much and watch everything lose frames.
The Moto G5 Plus looks like a fantastic phone, but since I'm waiting for its value to drop to a more appropriate price tag, it looks like my next upgrade is not as close as I would like it to be. And since I don't want to keep wanting to throw my Moto on the floor every single day, I've been getting my feet wet into the modding world and what a custom ROM is and what Greenify is etc etc.
However, I've heard very mixed feelings about custom ROMs. Say, if I were to install the official LineageOS 14.1 from the LineageOS website, without root, would it be worth it? What compromises have to be made? Does it really improve performance and battery life? Is the stability ready for daily usage? And also, does the camera quality change? I haven't been able to find an answer for any of these questions. In short - is it worth the trouble or is the stock ROM just better after all? I don't care about root (I'd rather NOT have it, even), I don't care about customization, themes, XPosed or whatnot. I just want a ROM that I can flash on my phone, install my Apps on it, use it until my Moto G5 Plus ships and then completely forget it's a custom ROM.
I tell you my opinion:
I think the CYAN project, now lineage, is a wonderful thing for those who want and have time to spare to look for how to push the most of your device, but I must say that the only solution to have an efficient phone is to give up the app superfluous and wipe useless data on the internal memory. In this way with the latest stock my motog 2014 goes very well.
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I have Moto G XT1068 since novembre 2014 and i think it's nowaday a good phone.
Remember that i dont' play games.
My phone had stock rom until 1 month ago and i went very well with stock rom.
Every 4/6 months i used to have a factory reset also erasing my sd and the system is always good.
From 1 month i use LineageOS and it's good.
Some settings are missing, like the ability to deactivate sim cards, but everything else works.
Battery is, in my opinion, better that stock, but take in mind i use a task killer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rhythm.hexise.task
There are some things that i made, like deactivating some apps from lineage like camera, browser, gallery, calculator, cLock, calendar, email, music, weather service. I replaced them with Google Apps, while for gallery and Camera i use the same Moto G 2014 camera and gallery from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/themes-apps/official-motorola-camerav5-0-21-4-t3121709
Camera app from Lineage in my opinion is terrible: hdr freezes, too much settings and confusing; i love Moto G2014 stock camera, but with Lineage slow motion doesn't work; likely it works in Lineage.
Very good battery, system is stable and fast, you have one hand mode, you have screen splitting, you have lots of quick settings personalible.
In my opinion is hust ready to be a daybyday rom, more efficient than stock 6.0, hoping next nightlies don't have problems, that can succeed.
But with regular twrp backup i don't think youll'have problems.
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I tell you my opinion:
I think the CYAN project, now lineage, is a wonderful thing for those who want and have time to spare to look for how to push the most of your device, but I must say that the only solution to have an efficient phone is to give up the app superfluous and wipe useless data on the internal memory. In this way with the latest stock my motog 2014 goes very well.
sorry for poor english
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Thank you, I'm going to do some more spring cleaning then. I'm definitely not interested in babysitting my software every day. I went through that phase on iOS with jailbreak and daemons, and all in all it was not worth it. I deleted some Apps and gave up the Google Now Launcher in favour of the leaner Evie launcher and I must say the situation has improved tangibly! The biggest improvement was after getting rid of Snapchat. Instagram stories does it anyway. Still, there are some combos that are still really prohibitive (Namely, Chrome + Spotify and Sworkit + Spotify), but it's a bit better. Battery life still sucks at just a little more than 2h screen on time with light usage, but since I don't have much off time and since I typically don't use my phone a lot during it, it's not a debilitating problem right now. However, I know that during summer having so little battery life will be unpractical, and by then I'll be looking to upgrade!
SuperFrancis said:
I tell you my opinion:
I think the CYAN project, now lineage, is a wonderful thing for those who want and have time to spare to look for how to push the most of your device, but I must say that the only solution to have an efficient phone is to give up the app superfluous and wipe useless data on the internal memory. In this way with the latest stock my motog 2014 goes very well.
sorry for poor english
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bostro said:
I have Moto G XT1068 since novembre 2014 and i think it's nowaday a good phone.
Remember that i dont' play games.
My phone had stock rom until 1 month ago and i went very well with stock rom.
Every 4/6 months i used to have a factory reset also erasing my sd and the system is always good.
From 1 month i use LineageOS and it's good.
Some settings are missing, like the ability to deactivate sim cards, but everything else works.
Battery is, in my opinion, better that stock, but take in mind i use a task killer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rhythm.hexise.task
There are some things that i made, like deactivating some apps from lineage like camera, browser, gallery, calculator, cLock, calendar, email, music, weather service. I replaced them with Google Apps, while for gallery and Camera i use the same Moto G 2014 camera and gallery from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/themes-apps/official-motorola-camerav5-0-21-4-t3121709
Camera app from Lineage in my opinion is terrible: hdr freezes, too much settings and confusing; i love Moto G2014 stock camera, but with Lineage slow motion doesn't work; likely it works in Lineage.
Very good battery, system is stable and fast, you have one hand mode, you have screen splitting, you have lots of quick settings personalible.
In my opinion is hust ready to be a daybyday rom, more efficient than stock 6.0, hoping next nightlies don't have problems, that can succeed.
But with regular twrp backup i don't think youll'have problems.
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Thank you, I'll be considering this option as well! I'm glad the CM Apps can be disabled since they are pretty basic compared to Google's counterparts and I don't like having a double copy of everything. And I agree - I had to install Cyanogenmod on a cheap Chinese phone (Luckily it's not the phone I use daily.) and the camera and gallery apps were just atrocious. As for the WebView Chrome comes with one so it's good. As of right now, I've been able to improve performance a bit following the recommendations from another user, so I'll see whether to install LOS or now.
bostro said:
I have Moto G XT1068 since novembre 2014 and i think it's nowaday a good phone.
Remember that i dont' play games.
My phone had stock rom until 1 month ago and i went very well with stock rom.
Every 4/6 months i used to have a factory reset also erasing my sd and the system is always good.
From 1 month i use LineageOS and it's good.
Some settings are missing, like the ability to deactivate sim cards, but everything else works.
Battery is, in my opinion, better that stock, but take in mind i use a task killer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rhythm.hexise.task
There are some things that i made, like deactivating some apps from lineage like camera, browser, gallery, calculator, cLock, calendar, email, music, weather service. I replaced them with Google Apps, while for gallery and Camera i use the same Moto G 2014 camera and gallery from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/themes-apps/official-motorola-camerav5-0-21-4-t3121709
Camera app from Lineage in my opinion is terrible: hdr freezes, too much settings and confusing; i love Moto G2014 stock camera, but with Lineage slow motion doesn't work; likely it works in Lineage.
Very good battery, system is stable and fast, you have one hand mode, you have screen splitting, you have lots of quick settings personalible.
In my opinion is hust ready to be a daybyday rom, more efficient than stock 6.0, hoping next nightlies don't have problems, that can succeed.
But with regular twrp backup i don't think youll'have problems.
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Hi there! Your comment makes me want even more to try Lineage OS in my Moto g2 xt1068 as well, but I'm not even able to find out how to root my phone. You know, thinking kind of "I'm gonna make explode the poor phone because I'm really new at this"
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Hi there! Your comment makes me want even more to try Lineage OS in my Moto g2 xt1068 as well, but I'm not even able to find out how to root my phone. You know, thinking kind of "I'm gonna make explode the poor phone because I'm really new at this"
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It's not difficult but may happen your phone has problems and goes in bootloop.
You have to learn how to:
- unlook bootloader: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/wip-unlock-bootloader-moto-g-2nd-gen-t2875728
- install recovery and root: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/xt1063-t3018818
- After that, download rom and flash via twrp: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-14-0-t3458931
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Hello all very long time lurker but am here now for some help. So a few questions and description of what i wish to achieve.
I have a POS iPod touch 4th gen that I have had 2 and half years or something and really want to replace. Also have an Xperia X10 and shortly will have an LG Optimus 2X. The X10 will function for phone duties until the Xperia TX become available in Australia.
Back the the O2X though. Now turning an android phone into a Portable Media Player (PMP) is something I have been wanting to do for a while now. Naturally though this brings up a few things that will not be needed.
For the music front end I will be using Player Pro and Pics and videos will primarily be held and viewed in QuickPic.
The phone will still need to retain wifi and bluetooth capabilities, however I want to fully disable all other forms of connectivity as I will have no need of it and will not be using a sim in the phone as this will be dedicated to music, movies and pics. So does anyone know the best way gor me to go about that?
I will also have a hell of a lot of unused and unwanted apps. I would love to be able to really strip the phone back and free up as much space as possible. Now in the past I have been able to uninstall pre-installed apps from my X10. I am just unsure how to go about it on the O2X. Does anyone know how I would go about completely removing the phone, contacts, calander, stock music, stock gallery and other assorted apps?
I would also need to be using a kernel with the voodoo sound mods for the wolfson DAC. Now I was wondering if there was any recommendations there?
Finally I would also like a recommendation of the most stable ICS based ROM to go with the voodoo kernel. I would like the ROM to also include a modifiable set of notification bar widgets so I can easily turn on and of things like wifi, bluetooth, gps, airaplane mode and adjust brightness. Anyone know of anything that would fit the bill?
Must also come with a working camera app (does not need to has video recording working or panorama just basic camera duties please). Any other suggestions that you may think of feel free to post them.
Thanks for taking the time to read this and hope some of you can help me out here on my project to make an Android PMP out of a great little Android Phone.
Stoner
Note to mods: hope I am posting in the right section, feel free to move it if I am not.
Since connectivity is already built in into the android OS, you can't disable it, but I think keeping your phone in airplane mode all the time should do the trick. Anyway, taking out the sim card already disables all connectivity that involves telecommunications.
If you want to remove system apps, you have to root your phone first. The forum already has so many guides on rooting. Then all you have to do is use any root file manager, go into system/app and delete the apps there. Not everything can be deleted though, some are crucial for the functioning of the phone.
The other way is to download a rom, open the zip and delete everything you don't need that's under system/app and install it. No guarantees that your phone will boot up though, if you happen to hit an app that is crucial for the rom to work. Then you can flash the rom and it's done.
There are many kernels that use voodoo, just find one that fits any rom of your choice.
Finally: ICS roms still have some bugs, seeing that you are going to use it as a PMP, I recommend not upgrading to ICS or later until roms made from LG's sources start popping out. I hear that CM10 (that runs on jellybean) will be released shortly after LG releases their ICS update.
Almost all roms have a camera app, no worries there!
TL;DR Install any rom you'd like that seems to fit the bill. Root your phone, open the particular rom's zip file and remove apps you don't need that are in system/app, flash it to your phone (with recovery mode of course). Flash kernel to your liking.
Looks like LG is no better than Sony when it comes to OS Updates haha
shall look at stock based Rome for now then. Try and find a JB skinned one if possible.
Then play trial and error with what apps I can remove before flashing and which I have to leave and possibly just freeze. New it was something simple but its been a while. I hope I can remove all the basic apps that make it function like a phone otherwise I guess I will make do with freezing and hiding them. Love removing all clutter possible.
Will be waiting to see if CM10 can come along much less buggy than all the CM9 and ICS ROMs that I have looked at. Silly LG hampering the development of ROMs because there isn't an official ICS update to work off and its late 2012 already. Hoping for some good news though with what I have read about SK and them getting ICS.
For the past few weeks there has been some blog posts, user complaints, and activity on various forums about the new Moto G 2014 having trouble with ram and keeping apps open (multitasking). I understand Android is intended through its design to close active apps when RAM memory runs low, however an increasing number of users are saying even basic multitasks (say using Chrome to browse the internet while trying to stream music from Google Play forces crashes or apps to close). The most activity I've found and participated in is on the Motorola Ower's forum.
Can anyone with a new Motorola G 2014 please comment if you are having this problem or not? And if so, please support the effort to get it resolved by contacting Motorola to ask for a remedy.
The defect exists for me. Every time I switch betweens apps, no matter which, the app restarts.
It is really annoying, especially since I had no problems with my old HTC One X (1GB RAM) and a Moto E (1GB RAM) I had for a while, and fewer problems with many of the 512MB RAM phones I tried.
Yes
Yes, the problem exists, and no real solution came. Thinking about sell it... maybe try a Zenfone?
Same with me. Gets very frustrating using the phone. The phone is perfect in every other regard, except multitaking.
Almost forgot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/design-defect-regarding-memory-t2953501
Don't get a huge amount of force closing of apps but when I do it's annoying, the screen redraw when going from an app back to launcher is really starting to grind on my nerves though, seems to be happening every time I head back to the launcher now, tried wiping the cache in the recovery, works for a while and then back to "Normal!".
Hoping that lollipop will sort it out but from what I've read so far it's not looking hopeful, plus the update seems to be on the back burner now for motorola, was talk of the moto g being the first to get 5.0 but now with LG G3 etc. all get the update looking like we've been forgotten.
Have been looking at other phones, as much as I like the moto g 2014 and the fact I use a sim for calls/texts and another for very cheap data, I may be heading back to a more premium single sim phone, have come from a Nexus 5 I find the moto g memory problem very annoying.
No force closing here,listening music with poweramp and surfing with Chrome at he same time is no problem.Till now I never realized an app to force close.
Ram usage is about 60%.
Ive noticed issues. All we need is a rom with init.d support so that we can set minfree settings at boot. I rooted my phone and ive adjusted minfree settings with romtoolbox, ive noticed a major difference.
who_ohw said:
Ive noticed issues. All we need is a rom with init.d support so that we can set minfree settings at boot. I rooted my phone and ive adjusted minfree settings with romtoolbox, ive noticed a major difference.
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Care to share some of your settings/tweaks?
Sent from my XT1064 using XDA Free mobile app
Forground Application- 4MB
Visible Application- 8MB
Secondary Server- 16MB
Hidden Application- 32MB
Content Provider- 48MB
Empty Application- 64MB
Or you can use the mild settings.
Babe I'm gonna leave you
I said baby, you know I'm gonna leave you.... sold my Moto G2, tired of the annoying memory bug....
In the last fight against the evil MemBug, I got an almost good result:
No redraws
Background music ok
Better multitasking
But I had to disable all Motorola servies and apps, use Greenify donation and MinFreeManager (Agressive)....
Maybe it was solved, I dont know because I already sold and buy another, no time to find out.
Moto, utter disapoint.
Bye, bye, baby bye bye!
Yes, it exists and it is a very big problem as you can't even listen music while you are browsing internet because the music player gets killed within few seconds after putting it in the background.
Motorola needs to fix thus asap. Its really frustrating. Anyone found any possible solution? I used minfreemanager con aggresive. It helps a bit but it still kills the apps
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Motorola needs to fix thus asap. Its really frustrating. Anyone found any possible solution? I used minfreemanager con aggresive. It helps a bit but it still kills the apps
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If Motorola doesn't fix this the solution is a custom rom. Just wait until Lollypop and you will have millions of custom roms fixing this. Nowadays we don't have these custom roms because the cookers are waiting for Lollypop as it is not rewarding to build a rom based on Kit Kat with the new update around the corner.
Turns out i wasnt able to solve the issues i was having. I think its due to lollipop. After a while apps just start crashing and get progressively worse with multitasking. Ive noticed that its not actually changing the minfree values in lollipop. As time goes on the only way to fix my phone is to boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik. Otherwise it bootloops...
So im going to revert to 4.4.4 as soon as i can find a valid link to download it........
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If Motorola doesn't fix this the solution is a custom rom. Just wait until Lollypop and you will have millions of custom roms fixing this. Nowadays we don't have these custom roms because the cookers are waiting for Lollypop as it is not rewarding to build a rom based on Kit Kat with the new update around the corner.
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Yep, i know custom ROM's will fix this problem eventually. The thing is way too many people are afraid to start messing up with the phone because you can brick it. Personally, the first ROM i see for xt1063 i will flash it xD. But to all the people who don't know how to do it, they will have the problem forever, or until Motorola fixes it. I had a Huawei Ascend before this Moto G and with 30 mb free almost all the time it had better multitasking
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Yep, i know custom ROM's will fix this problem eventually. The thing is way too many people are afraid to start messing up with the phone because you can brick it. Personally, the first ROM i see for xt1063 i will flash it xD. But to all the people who don't know how to do it, they will have the problem forever, or until Motorola fixes it. I had a Huawei Ascend before this Moto G and with 30 mb free almost all the time it had better multitasking
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Yes, I understand what you are saying but when you flash a Custom Recovery is literally impossible to brick your device. And you are right, I have a backup Huawei with 512 mb of RAM and it does not have this sort of problems. Same happens to my Nexus 7 with 1 GB of RAM memory.
EDIT:
We have some news from Motorola regarding this issue. Thanks to the reports done in this thread:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/6168839e0e?page=1
An Android blog posted this:
http://www.androidorigin.com/moto-g-bug-multitask/
And then, suddenly:
We're working on a some things to improve your experience. We do not recommend rooting or unlocking your bootloader. Thanks for all the feedback in this thread.
Mark
Forums Manager
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Well I decided to start using Nova Prime Launcher again since I own the full paid app, using the option for Aggressive Desktop the home screen redraw has stopped, press home button from any running app and it now goes straight to the launcher with absolutely no redraw, so at least that's one problem solved. Just as a test I briefly used the now launcher again and the redraw came back almost straight away.
Hello everyone, sorry for my english its not my native language.
I havr been having the same multi tasking problems, fed up about this trying all the solutions i have not been luck.
I decided to flash my phone with a custom rom and to disable lots of motorola services at boot and i cam say after 2 days of use my phone only kills old apps.it is working geat and fast, the only app that works little bad is skype
I installed andro x custom rom
Hope it helps
I don't have this problem so thought I would post some details about my set up and see if helps you. My phone is rooted, mainly so I can use apps like Xposed and Ti backup, and I'm using a custom pINKman kernel , though fairly sure it was fine on the stock kernel.
I have disabled all the apps I don't use, so maybe this is why I don't have the issue you have?
As a test I've been playing streaming music from BBC iPlayer radio in the background, browsing with Dolphin browser with 3 tabs open and switching between them (Google Chrome is disabled), looking through the gallery, reading email, sending sms, using BBC News app, opening Netflix, took a photo, took screenshots, opened the home screen several times and scrolled pages, (Nova launcher), no lag or redrawing. Streaming music continued playing without interruption, except momentarily when a got a new email notification which is how it should be. No apps FC and no noticeable problems.
I've uploaded screenshots of the frozen apps that I don't use or want running. Maybe this will help?
I used lolipop most of the time on my S5 mini but I also used marshmallow recently. Even with all **** disabled there are still very noticable delays when I switch between applications and scrolling isn't smooth, some transitions are not as smooth either.
I'm using Slim6 at the moment and first thing I noticed when is that it's so smooth. For a while I thought this phone's hardware is too weak for system or it should run it damn smooth. On another hand I see phones like J5 2016 from Samsung which has Marshmallow preinstalled and it's so much smoother than my S5 mini ever was.
So my question is what causes the system to preform so slow and not as smooth as one would like? And it can't be bloatware because even if you disable and uninstall all of that **** it still runs just as bad.
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I used lolipop most of the time on my S5 mini but I also used marshmallow recently. Even with all **** disabled there are still very noticable delays when I switch between applications and scrolling isn't smooth, some transitions are not as smooth either.
I'm using Slim6 at the moment and first thing I noticed when is that it's so smooth. For a while I thought this phone's hardware is too weak for system or it should run it damn smooth. On another hand I see phones like J5 2016 from Samsung which has Marshmallow preinstalled and it's so much smoother than my S5 mini ever was.
So my question is what causes the system to preform so slow and not as smooth as one would like? And it can't be bloatware because even if you disable and uninstall all of that **** it still runs just as bad.
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Stock Lolipop is full of bloatware, and the problem is, this software runs mostly in Backgroud, even if you don't use it.
Wow I'm actually shocked. After removing around 20 Google and Samsung crap that came preinstalled using Bloatware removing tools I can actually feel the difference in smoothness and device is a lot more fun to use. Again understameted what all those annoying apps from Samsung and Google can do.
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Wow I'm actually shocked. After removing around 20 Google and Samsung crap that came preinstalled using Bloatware removing tools I can actually feel the difference in smoothness and device is a lot more fun to use. Again understameted what all those annoying apps from Samsung and Google can do.
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What app and with what parameters (setup) have you used for debloating?
Nevermind it's getting slow overtime still. ****.
It's the kernel, don't use Samsung stock kernel. I've got a G800Y variant and that sh*t was as slow as a fkn fliptop I swear. I've got the following on mine:
- Xposed (23/87.1 for Samsung) <- Personally, this is also partly to do with being able to maintain everything, there's a module called like 100M+ Memory Saver (module list below)
- No Google Play Services/Play Store/Location/ANYTHING (even using Yalp Store as an alternative to that cancerous bundle of leaching bloatware)
- Hopefully sometime soon the open source OpenLauncher gets fixed up sometime soon, swear its the best of every Launcher -Performance draining features/+Free and it's pretty tidy too (but broken)
- HEBF Optimizer (Free - XDA), not sure about this one but the UI is tidy and it's got some good stuff, personally used to 3C but I have both installed
Running on the SpookyCity v2.5 CM13 Kernel (you have to CM-Auto-Root to get an install without that dirty blue/red in the top left and fix up some root permission issues I was getting), with LineageOS 13.0. Don't install addonsu, pretty sure I got it going using some divine blessing with SuperSU 2.79.
Xposed Modules
- 100M+ Memory Saver
- 3C Toolbox Pro (Free/Paid - Xposed/Play/$9.99) [Xposed-capable] little outdated, but it's got a whole bunch of options for lazy/new/any user
- Adblocker Reborn
- All My...
- Android N-ify
- FS Keyboard
- Xposed Settings Injector
Even though it states the G800F Kernel is just that, for the F model, I managed to get it going primo, gonna see what RR is like so I'll prob do a guide on that to be honest, all I know is this phone was never going this fast before I threw a custom Kernel on it, exponential speed increase.
Sounds like a lot of work. Will keep that in mind but he also made great rom that works really well for now Slim7 which also offers stock UI which looks so much better than lolipop skin from Samsung, so I'm gonna hopefully be able to stick with that.
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Sounds like a lot of work. Will keep that in mind but he also made great rom that works really well for now Slim7 which also offers stock UI which looks so much better than lolipop skin from Samsung, so I'm gonna hopefully be able to stick with that.
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Just to be noted, that was with a G800Y. That variant doesn't seem to have too much support but I haven't really found anything other than the bands to be that different between the two although I can't seem to get this '1500MHz' clock speed I've seen here and there.
Since I last posted, I installed got rid of MM - the features are great but I have a friend who's running N and their battery life is more than double what it was stock or MM. So I factory reset (TWRP - No need to lose your pictures etc, just make sure to make a .vcf back up of your contacts), flashed the SpookyCity v2.5 RR Kernel and threw on the latest build of Resurrection Remix (2.8.4). No need to opt into the Google scam or anything stock that Samsung has to offer, just use Yalp Store*.
Sure I've lost a handful of features from Xposed, but with a phone that ranges from 35C - 45C combined with a battery life of ~8 hours, kinda worth it. Resurrection Remix is a combination of LOS and another ROM (Resurrection *something*) and it runs flawless. No need for Google because that's the real killer..
*Yalp Store - Featured on the F-Droid repository, you can log in using alt. credentials or even your own (at your own risk!), if you want purchased apps you can use APK Extractor (F-Droid) OR buy it via PS website and use your login. Google isn't in the picture when it comes to enhancing your phones performance, however you can still use the pixel launcher in RR 2.8.4, and if you're curious as to what you can use instead of the Google search engine try DuckDuckGo
Good Day.
I would like to clarify that I do not know how to create ROMs and I do not know how to write codes(anymore) but since our devices are aging, would be it great to send our Xperia SP off with a bang with an Android GO edition-like ROM? our devices cant handle newer apps and processes anymore but at least I think the Go edition ROM can still make our phones as usable as daily drivers either on Android Q or Pie.
please consider. thank you.
As far as i may concerned, LOW RAM optimisations are already implemented in the codebase for current active ROMs for Huashan. And, to the best of my knowledge, which i may be wrong, these optimisations are derived from Android GO itself. I vaguely remember that at one time this is a main topic said by Adrian the master himself.
Huashan is no longer capable to run modern apps that somewhat uses heavy resources (which i myself don't understand why Instagram needed such a computing power). Unfortunately neither do current Go phones. That is why PWA is a thing to all Go devices. I.e. Maps Go, Twitter Lite, etc.
Of course this is not an objection to your proposal. Just thinking of dropping my thoughts here
Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
Instead of shoving newer android versions down this phones throat expecting miracles. We should go back to one of Lollipop or marshmallow ROMs and realise how much lag free and usable it is. They're still pretty modern looking and does the job well.
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Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
Instead of shoving newer android versions down this phones throat expecting miracles. We should go back to one of Lollipop or marshmallow ROMs and realise how much lag free and usable it is. They're still pretty modern looking and does the job well.
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Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
Not to mention that they offer battery times like 7-12 days.
emcom said:
Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
Not to mention that they offer battery times like 7-12 days.
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I don't use gapps on LOS 15.1. Knowing that they crap the phone out.
LOS 15.1 is good, we get latest security updates, better UI etc.. but hangs and stutters more with apps and multitasking.
KaBombaBoom said:
Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
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I don't agree with that, KaBombaBoom. I ran Oreo for a long time and recently upgraded to Pie. The phone is still surprisingly fast until some hungry app gobbles up all RAM and it starts running on swap.
That's what doesn't cut well for any phone in the long run, those apps that keep growing bigger and bigger and requiring more RAM though mostly or no new functionality is added.
Google Play Services itself is heavy, not to mention other google apps such as their mail, I open it from the browser these days. I'd love to get away without GApps but retaining the deep sleep wake that push notifications provide.
emcom said:
Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
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How is your experience with that emcom? Does your phone wakes up from deep sleep when you get IM?
That's the main reason I never tried android without GApps. That and the fact that all drivers are mostly proprietary anyways, so why bother
rbertoche said:
I don't agree with that, KaBombaBoom. I ran Oreo for a long time and recently upgraded to Pie. The phone is still surprisingly fast until some hungry app gobbles up all RAM and it starts running on swap.
That's what doesn't cut well for any phone in the long run, those apps that keep growing bigger and bigger and requiring more RAM though mostly or no new functionality is added.
Google Play Services itself is heavy, not to mention other google apps such as their mail, I open it from the browser these days. I'd love to get away without GApps but retaining the deep sleep wake that push notifications provide.
How is your experience with that emcom? Does your phone wakes up from deep sleep when you get IM?
That's the main reason I never tried android without GApps. That and the fact that all drivers are mostly proprietary anyways, so why bother
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Of course it wakes up. I've been using it as my daily driver with WhatsApp for some time last year, and it was perfect. There was just one problem which I could not resolve : message backups. I mean, it was working perfectly when I made backups on the SD card, but if I wanted to have them somewhere in the cloud, the only option was the Google Drive - which is not working without Google services.
Btw. it's possible to use One Drive instead of Google Drive (eg. for photos backup in the cloud, but not WhatsApp - if you have maybe Office 365 subscription.
And it's possible to have anything else running without Google - contacts, messaging, even a lot of applications indicating they need Google on the phone - they are working without Google anyway. Thet's except for paid apps, of course.
I got my Redmi Note 10 Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm really liking it except for some issues. MIUI feels really bloated and sluggish even after using the adb tools to remove most of the pre-installed garbage. Battery life has been really disappointing even after going to 60hz and using low brightness. You also can't use a third party launcher with the full screen gestures and i hate the default launcher. I've been thinking about installing Pixel Experience as I've seen other people having better battery life and performance than on MIUI. It's also stock android so that's a cherry on top, but i don't know what sort of issues it might come with. First of all I don't know if all of my apps will work. I'm also scared that I might brick my phone and I'm not gonna be able to go back to MIUI if there are any issues. Also I might not get regular or quality updates and I don't trust the small team that works on the pixel experience rom more than Xiaomi. Can someone tell me if any of these issues exist and if it's worth it to use a custom rom? Thanks.
it is, I've been using debloated miui11 and 12 on tulip for over 2 years, it is much, much better than original miui. My wife has been using custom aicp on rn4x, and again, experience was much better, than on stock.
Apps will work in 99% cases, if not, there are tutorials how to install them. Stuff that you have to look over the most are banking apps, nfc apps and rn10p miui stock cam (which is actually better, than gcam mods now).
RN10p does not have anti rollback protection, it is generally easier to flash than smartphones based on mediatek cpus, so you must done some physical damage to actually broke this phone.
About OTA's - there are options to install ota updates on custom recovieries like skyhawk recovery project or others to twrp (this recovery does not have that option, as far as I know). If that fails, you can always install new version on top of the old.
Ok thanks a lot! Are there any suggestions you can give me on what rom i should use on the rn10p and can you give me any tips about installing and using custom roms? I'm new to this.
I've just started and installed pixel experience (normal, without plus, not sure, what is the difference between it, since even the size is the same). Firstly, you have to unlock your bootloader in order to proceed. Then make sure you've installed usb drivers for this phone (without it, you cannot unlock bootloader, for example, because miunlock does not see your phone).
About a rom - the cleaner the android, the better (mostly). If you aren't super tied to some special miui-only options (most noticeable being xiaomi account and preinstalled mi forum), then you are free to go. Phone is capable of running even fully packed android 11, so picking the lightest rom without gapps to save space doesn't have much sense these days (it had like 7 years ago, when internal storage was always a shortage). Most cool stuff are call recorder (blocked in official miui and in most european countries), small tweaks with gestures and buttons (most roms have it), tweaks like "long press menu button to torch" etc. You'll have to look for yourself later then, but for now just follow guide to install and read topics before instalation - in most cases if something goes wrong, you should be able to pick that from somebody's story. Also remember about backups of internal storage, music, photos, app installers etc, because all of it is gone with almost every operation.
Generally from MIUI there's one thing that You must take with you - camera app. So far stock is best. There are tutorials in pixel experience thread on how to install it. Also, I highly recommend root - you can make it only after unlocking bootloader, but being able to access deeper areas of system, uninstall unwanted stuff, get rid of ads etc is worth the try, especially if nowadays magisk instalation is really simple. For more advanced users, you could try to install edxposed manager to customize phone even more.
buczek0711 said:
I've just started and installed pixel experience (normal, without plus, not sure, what is the difference between it, since even the size is the same). Firstly, you have to unlock your bootloader in order to proceed. Then make sure you've installed usb drivers for this phone (without it, you cannot unlock bootloader, for example, because miunlock does not see your phone).
About a rom - the cleaner the android, the better (mostly). If you aren't super tied to some special miui-only options (most noticeable being xiaomi account and preinstalled mi forum), then you are free to go. Phone is capable of running even fully packed android 11, so picking the lightest rom without gapps to save space doesn't have much sense these days (it had like 7 years ago, when internal storage was always a shortage). Most cool stuff are call recorder (blocked in official miui and in most european countries), small tweaks with gestures and buttons (most roms have it), tweaks like "long press menu button to torch" etc. You'll have to look for yourself later then, but for now just follow guide to install and read topics before instalation - in most cases if something goes wrong, you should be able to pick that from somebody's story. Also remember about backups of internal storage, music, photos, app installers etc, because all of it is gone with almost every operation.
Generally from MIUI there's one thing that You must take with you - camera app. So far stock is best. There are tutorials in pixel experience thread on how to install it. Also, I highly recommend root - you can make it only after unlocking bootloader, but being able to access deeper areas of system, uninstall unwanted stuff, get rid of ads etc is worth the try, especially if nowadays magisk instalation is really simple. For more advanced users, you could try to install edxposed manager to customize phone even more.
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Thanks a ton for your help! I'll install pixel experience and try it out tomorrow. I'll root it and install the stock camera. Wish me luck.
Zare_ said:
I got my Redmi Note 10 Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm really liking it except for some issues. MIUI feels really bloated and sluggish even after using the adb tools to remove most of the pre-installed garbage. Battery life has been really disappointing even after going to 60hz and using low brightness. You also can't use a third party launcher with the full screen gestures and i hate the default launcher. I've been thinking about installing Pixel Experience as I've seen other people having better battery life and performance than on MIUI. It's also stock android so that's a cherry on top, but i don't know what sort of issues it might come with. First of all I don't know if all of my apps will work. I'm also scared that I might brick my phone and I'm not gonna be able to go back to MIUI if there are any issues. Also I might not get regular or quality updates and I don't trust the small team that works on the pixel experience rom more than Xiaomi. Can someone tell me if any of these issues exist and if it's worth it to use a custom rom? Thanks.
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I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
LeDiable said:
I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
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Why would it be a joke? Not everyone is master of rom swapping and adb commands freshly out of the box. It is already much higher level than at least some people, who called their phones by Wrong models or keep asking for help, because they screwed their phones badly. Normal questions, if you ask me.
LeDiable said:
I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
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Why would it be a joke?
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Why would it be a joke? Not everyone is master of rom swapping and adb commands freshly out of the box. It is already much higher level than at least some people, who called their phones by Wrong models or keep asking for help, because they screwed their phones badly. Normal questions, if you ask me.
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Exactly, Thanks!