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Hello everybody,
I am using Note 9 for few months (was forced to upgrade from Note 4 what suddenly died ) and I have noticed very irritating thing.
My phone is connecting on mobile data even they are turned off 2 - 3 times per month.
First few months I thought that I somehow turned them on, but my phone is always fingerprint locked so that is not possible. Last time it happened when I was walking in the forest and once while I was sleeping in the bus... So it really is NOT some kind of accidental user mistake.
Problem is that I dont need mobile data all the time so I have them switched off almost always and use them only when required for email and etc just few times. I have offline GPS navigation and everything I need for work always works offline. Data plan was never economical for me.
Anybody noticed this?
I am trying to diagnose this issue and turn that off because I am paying on connection basis.
It is really irritating that phone is doing something on its own and doesnt care what user set up... I really think that user app cannot enable mobile data on its own, so I suspect OS itself...
This suggestion isn't exactly what you're looking for, but, one I find helps somewhat.
Go to SETTINGS > APPS & on each app, go to MOBILE DATA & turn off background data.
Not only does it curb unwanted data usage, but, may also offer a marginal improvement in battery life.
As for the issue you're experiencing, I haven't had that issue.
The only thing that I can imagine is possibly you have an app that has the ability/permission to turn on data, even if you have data turned off in the phones settings.
I've never heard of it being triggered by external means either, definitely an unusual issue.
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KOLIOSIS said:
This suggestion isn't exactly what you're looking for, but, one I find helps somewhat.
Go to SETTINGS > APPS & on each app, go to MOBILE DATA & turn off background data.
Not only does it curb unwanted data usage, but, may also offer a marginal improvement in battery life.
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Thank you for inspiration . This may be good starting point.
I have checked mobile data usage statistics. Sad that you can see only one month statistics and not like last week or last 24 hours. This week I had 2 unwanted connections again (today again happened during trip when phone wasnt even in my hands).
In last month there are few apps that are system installed, I have disabled mobile data on background on each of them:
- Samsung Experience Service
- Samsung Push Service
- Media
I will see if it will make any changes and report here in another days.
I will check maybe on stackexchange if its even possible for user application to enable mobile data withouth users approval. Is far as I know, even system administrator apps like Cerbersu cant do that...
HeliumX10 said:
Thank you for inspiration . This may be good starting point.
I have checked mobile data usage statistics. Sad that you can see only one month statistics and not like last week or last 24 hours. This week I had 2 unwanted connections again (today again happened during trip when phone wasnt even in my hands).
In last month there are few apps that are system installed, I have disabled mobile data on background on each of them:
- Samsung Experience Service
- Samsung Push Service
- Media
I will see if it will make any changes and report here in another days.
I will check maybe on stackexchange if its even possible for user application to enable mobile data withouth users approval. Is far as I know, even system administrator apps like Cerbersu cant do that...
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Please keep us posted on your progress.
I'm not rooted, so, any system apps that I know that I won't use, I disable them, either via ADB commands, or, using the app Package Disabler Pro.
If you are rooted, I strongly recommend using SD Maid Pro. It's good not only for disabling apps, but, you can stop individual processes from starting up on boot on a per-app basis. (Among other several uses).
If you're interested & need links to either/all, let me know......
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I wonder if data is turned on either by samsung to maybe location service or remote lock service?
Im not sure but does Note 9 has "aGPS"? Doesn't it connect to cell towers for faster position lock?
Do you have any anti theft software installed what pinging server once a while?
darekz said:
I wonder if data is turned on either by samsung to maybe location service or remote lock service?
Im not sure but does Note 9 has "aGPS"? Doesn't it connect to cell towers for faster position lock?
Do you have any anti theft software installed what pinging server once a while?
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I have installed Cerberus as anti theft service. I doubt thats culprit of this because I had it installed previously on Note 2 and Note 4 fo about 6 years in total and never had this issue before. Maybe this is something different in new app version, but I am very suspicious about Samsung preinstalled stuff.
AGPS is of course present, like on any phone since around 2012. But you really dont need internet connection for using that. It should use coordinates from BTS mobile stations and those data should be obtained without internet. As far as I know...
Now its 2 days without data enabled issue. Few more days and we will know if disabling background data for those 3 services helped.
Ive had the Samsung AllShare Cast Wireless Hub/dongle since the Galaxy S3. It has worked with every Samsung device that i threw at including the note9. When it was on Oreo. I recently updated to android 10 and the smartview drop down in settings connects however when it mirrors to the screen it only shows a silhouette of my home screen turned to the right with no other images from my phone. I went to the play store and found other mirroring apps and the same problem. My old Note 4 still works and prior to updating to android 10 so did this Note. Please help.
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Ive had the Samsung AllShare Cast Wireless Hub/dongle since the Galaxy S3. It has worked with every Samsung device that i threw at including the note9. When it was on Oreo. I recently updated to android 10 and the smartview drop down in settings connects however when it mirrors to the screen it only shows a silhouette of my home screen turned to the right with no other images from my phone. I went to the play store and found other mirroring apps and the same problem. My old Note 4 still works and prior to updating to android 10 so did this Note. Please help.
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Just maybe because it is pretty old... use smart view and it is done...
Conito11 said:
Just maybe because it is pretty old... use smart view and it is done...
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It previously worked with smartview on oreo. Since updating to android 10 I've been having this issue. It has something to do with one 2.0 ui or android 10.
docdg said:
It previously worked with smartview on oreo. Since updating to android 10 I've been having this issue. It has something to do with one 2.0 ui or android 10.
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Are you on a VPN ip? It won't works if you are on it.
May update fixed it
Can Wear OS run on the X Fold?
I have TAG connected watch and I read that it does not work with Chinese ROM
I have the TicWatch 3 PRO Ultra and although it was a pain in the ... to make it work, Managed it with both the Chinese and Play versions of the Wear OS app installed together. it is fiddly but eventually, it works. Also, I get all the notifications on the watch (even the ones that will not show up on the phone...
dee163 said:
Thanks for the feedback
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Can you direct me a tutorial for this ?
dee163 said:
Can you direct me a tutorial for this ?
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Tutorial unfortunately no as I did not follow any... First tried installing Wear OS from the Play store but it was not finishing the setup. Then I downloaded Wear OS from the Vivo store (the so-called Chinese version. This one does not have any Google Account integration) I gave all possible permissions to both of them (yes, they can be installed at the same time.) Then somehow the Play Store version worked and connected to the watch. I installed also the TicWatch App that is needed (in my case. Guess TAG has one too) and after some more fiddling with notification permissions, it just worked. I get all my notifications and everything seems to sync properly.
I hope that they will really release the phone in India next month, as usually, the Indian releases are Global ROMs with more compatibility with everything. Then we should be able to flash it on our devices...
I have my Galaxy Watch connected.
First loaded the Chinese Wear app, then the Galaxy Wear app.
BUT it won't stay connected. It's OK while the phone is open, but as soon as the phone logs off the Bluetooth disconnects.
I've given the Wear apps every possible permission and power settings but it just won't stay connected.
Just to update from my last post, I've decided to trade in my Galaxy Watch 3 for the new Watch 5. Will be interested to see if that makes any difference. Probably not
I have the same issue - cannot keep my galaxy watch connected (it's the 1st gen)
All is fine and after a while it just disconnects.
The galaxy Buds Live are fine and keep connected.
I'm using the Galaxy wearable app. (as these devices are not Wear OS i think)
Morb81 said:
I have the same issue - cannot keep my galaxy watch connected (it's the 1st gen)
All is fine and after a while it just disconnects.
The galaxy Buds Live are fine and keep connected.
I'm using the Galaxy wearable app. (as these devices are not Wear OS i think)
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My Watch 5 is due later today. I'll be interested to see if that stays connected.
RR-99 said:
My Watch 5 is due later today. I'll be interested to see if that stays connected.
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No success with the Watch 5, as I reported in a separate thread. I'll wait for the Pixel Watch.
Got my Galaxy watch (1st gen i guess) successfully paired and it keeps connected. As long as the 2 devices are bound. (once disconnected i have to reconnect via the wear app - no big deal)
Thing is though - battery usage of the watch is through the roof. I hardly get a full day out of it.
Anyone know what might be causing this?
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Got my Galaxy watch (1st gen i guess) successfully paired and it keeps connected. As long as the 2 devices are bound. (once disconnected i have to reconnect via the wear app - no big deal)
Thing is though - battery usage of the watch is through the roof. I hardly get a full day out of it.
Anyone know what might be causing this?
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First gen Galaxy Watches did not have a very good battery life to begin with... 1.5 to 2 days at most with good use. Another thing is that the connection between the watch and the phone is not stable for some reason (probably due to the stupid Vivo battery optimizations or some Bluetooth issue)... For instance, my Ticwatch Pro 3 Ultra GPS (names those things) lasted about 3 days with my old Galaxy S21 Ultra but now I struggle to get 2 with the Vivo X Fold...
Which Watch work with X Fold ? It seems no one actually. i have 2/3 Xiaomi, nothing work and it's not Band !!
Samsung Watch 3 works. Samsung Watch 5 does not work.
I now have Huawei GT3 pro and it works perfectly. Does not use Wear. Great battery life, eight days so far !
I agree nt so bad... nothing better than others... But qualitative.
Everything work ?
lesscro said:
Which Watch work with X Fold ? It seems no one actually. i have 2/3 Xiaomi, nothing work and it's not Band !!
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Huawei models works without problems
maxant69 said:
Huawei models works without problems
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Good to know !
OrionBG said:
Tutorial unfortunately no as I did not follow any... First tried installing Wear OS from the Play store but it was not finishing the setup. Then I downloaded Wear OS from the Vivo store (the so-called Chinese version. This one does not have any Google Account integration) I gave all possible permissions to both of them (yes, they can be installed at the same time.) Then somehow the Play Store version worked and connected to the watch. I installed also the TicWatch App that is needed (in my case. Guess TAG has one too) and after some more fiddling with notification permissions, it just worked. I get all my notifications and everything seems to sync properly.
I hope that they will really release the phone in India next month, as usually, the Indian releases are Global ROMs with more compatibility with everything. Then we should be able to flash it on our devices...
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I have a Vivo X Note and also a TicWatch Pro 3 Ultra. Wear OS works well together with the Chinese version. The only and for me the biggest problem is that I cannot pay with a card via Google wallet from watch. When I open the apk and want to add a payment card, it says a connection error with my mobile phone, and on my X Note Wallet does not open through google play services, and I cannot add the card to the watch. I have no problem with paying on my mobile, Wallet works ok there. If I connect the watch to the Lenovo Yoga Tab tablet, Wear OS from the Google Play Store works there without any problems, and I also add all the cards to the Wallet in the watch. I read on the forums that the problem is with the new versions of the Google Play services and that it will help to downgrade the older version lower than 21.26.58. The problem is that when installing, the system gives an error and cannot be installed... So at the moment I have a working watch, but no payment, which is frustrating. Have you tried paying with your watch?
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I have a Vivo X Note and also a TicWatch Pro 3 Ultra. Wear OS works well together with the Chinese version. The only and for me the biggest problem is that I cannot pay with a card via Google wallet from watch. When I open the apk and want to add a payment card, it says a connection error with my mobile phone, and on my X Note Wallet does not open through google play services, and I cannot add the card to the watch. I have no problem with paying on my mobile, Wallet works ok there. If I connect the watch to the Lenovo Yoga Tab tablet, Wear OS from the Google Play Store works there without any problems, and I also add all the cards to the Wallet in the watch. I read on the forums that the problem is with the new versions of the Google Play services and that it will help to downgrade the older version lower than 21.26.58. The problem is that when installing, the system gives an error and cannot be installed... So at the moment I have a working watch, but no payment, which is frustrating. Have you tried paying with your watch?
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I never got google wallet to work on mine too…
Kucko34 said:
I have a Vivo X Note and also a TicWatch Pro 3 Ultra. Wear OS works well together with the Chinese version. The only and for me the biggest problem is that I cannot pay with a card via Google wallet from watch. When I open the apk and want to add a payment card, it says a connection error with my mobile phone, and on my X Note Wallet does not open through google play services, and I cannot add the card to the watch. I have no problem with paying on my mobile, Wallet works ok there. If I connect the watch to the Lenovo Yoga Tab tablet, Wear OS from the Google Play Store works there without any problems, and I also add all the cards to the Wallet in the watch. I read on the forums that the problem is with the new versions of the Google Play services and that it will help to downgrade the older version lower than 21.26.58. The problem is that when installing, the system gives an error and cannot be installed... So at the moment I have a working watch, but no payment, which is frustrating. Have you tried paying with your watch?
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I will never work, as Android Auto, Google backup, Google Timeline and Ok Google activation.
Vivo doesn't use a full Google Play Service framework as they have Jovi application instead of Google one.
Hello
Does anyone manage to make the Remote Connection work? It's missing in the Galaxy Wear settings.
I'm guessing it's related to the Wear OS China version app.
Just got my new Galaxy Watch 5. It looks great, very smooth appearance
Installed it in the usual way after removing all the old apps and starting from scratch including Watch 5 patch.
Good news - Galaxy Wear found the watch straight away and did the bluetooth pairing.
Bad news - Galaxy Wear immediately said "This watch is not supported on this phone."
I'll be having an other go later on, but it's looking like the watch will be going back.
If you have an older copy of Wearables try that after uninstalling the new version. Make sure you get all the apps for the watch.
Firewall block the old version's updates though before opening it... or it will update.
Conversely try updating everything including the watch firmware. Sequence* of your actions here can effect the outcome. Wearables can be quit the terror but I've always gotten my Buds+ to work right, one way or another
Samsung tech may be useful as may Samsung forums. It sucks but so does a lot of things; bennies for success, nothing for failure.
*trial and error, and yes it can take multiple attempts. DO NOT factory reset!
Clearing the system cache and especially a network reset may help. Make sure Wearables has all its permissions, CHECK!!! It will puke on you if it doesn't! No warnings why either
I've been back again, tried everything I learned in getting the Watch 3 to work. But this one is different, it's not like the failures before when something just doesn't work or goes into a loop. This is the first time Galaxy Wear has connected to the Watch and then said definitely that it is not comparible with the phone. I'm having bad feelings about it.
The other thing I would say though is, are Samsung going to sell the Watch 5 into China? If so it should work with Chinese phones - unless it has different firmware.
Watch 5 returned. Waiting for Pixel Watch.
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Just got my new Galaxy Watch 5. It looks great, very smooth appearance
Installed it in the usual way after removing all the old apps and starting from scratch including Watch 5 patch.
Good news - Galaxy Wear found the watch straight away and did the bluetooth pairing.
Bad news - Galaxy Wear immediately said "This watch is not supported on this phone."
I'll be having an other go later on, but it's looking like the watch will be going back.
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Another horrible news about Vivo Security and policies.
Anyone had the Samsung Galaxy Watch 5 to work with the Wear OS version from Vivo app store?
yes i have the watch 5 pro working i have had vio x fold,vivo x fold plus and now vivo x fold 2 and it worked on all
what you have to do is uninstall all the versions you have of samsung wearables and plugins then go to this link and install this version of wearables http://samsung-gear.apk.watch/2.2.41.21071361/for/huawei-honor-8
once that is installed open up the settings of ur phone go to bluetooth and connect to your watch then open up the wearables app and it will download an update follow it through and it will work perfect for you
just remember to set the wearable and watch os apps to be locked in the task killer screen and set the battery management to high power for the wearable and watch os apps to make sure you get all your notifications and for it to stay connected
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yes i have the watch 5 pro working i have had vio x fold,vivo x fold plus and now vivo x fold 2 and it worked on all
what you have to do is uninstall all the versions you have of samsung wearables and plugins then go to this link and install this version of wearables http://samsung-gear.apk.watch/2.2.41.21071361/for/huawei-honor-8
once that is installed open up the settings of ur phone go to bluetooth and connect to your watch then open up the wearables app and it will download an update follow it through and it will work perfect for you
just remember to set the wearable and watch os apps to be locked in the task killer screen and set the battery management to high power for the wearable and watch os apps to make sure you get all your notifications and for it to stay connected
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I have both watch 4 and watch 5 connecting to vivo without any issues. Do not use the Samsung wearable app from the play store but use the above apk. Once the phone is synced, all the Samsung plugins gets updated to the latest version.
This has bothered me since long time, on several wear os watches. Problem is the following:
I have currently a samsung fold 4 and a samsung watch 5 pro LTE (but i've had the problem on other devices too in the past, al wear os devices).
When the watch is connected through bluetooth there is not a single issue. If i have my phone on the table for several hours, while not touching it, all notifications are instantly pushed to the watch, no delays.
However, when i leave my phone at home and going out with my watch only, it will correctly switch over to LTE connection and there the problems start. When my phone is recently used (few minutes ago) the watch can establish a remote connection. At that moment al notifications are pushed to the watch, almost no delays. However, after a while, usually within 30 a 60 minutes the notifications start to be delayed, and even the remote connection just stops (seeing the disconnected symbol on the watch). also sending messages or replying them on the watch is instantly and correct at first, but starts to fail after a while.
It seems like the google cloud sync service is killed after a while on the phone, preventing the forwarding of phone notifications to the watch over LTE (cloud sync). I tried everyting on my samsung phone, changing the battery optimizations of all samsung wearable apps and plugins, google apps, play service etc... I turned of as many battery saving features i could find on my phone, but no luck. If i leave the phone on the charger, the cloud sync keeps working for a longer time, but agian, ofter some time it will slow down, starting with unablity to reply or send messages from the watch, to complete disconnection... Al this while the internet connections on the phone and watch are rock stable...
Has anybody any clue why this happens?? Is there some trick or setting i overlooked? Does anybody know which app or service on the phone (samsung) is responsible for this google cloud sync?
again, this is not only on this phone-watch combo, i had several wear os watches from different brands in the past, but mostly samsung flagship phones. I cant believe that two samsung devices are not software optimized so these issues cant happen... I always bought LTE watches so i could go for a run or go to the gym phone free, is brilliant when it works, but VERY annoying when it usualy is not reliable.... I'm thinking even to switch to the apple camp, hoping those issues are not present on apple watch cellular... But i like samsung devices more then iphone ....