So there been a few threads on the Kaiser on O2. It seems to becoming in December:
http://shop.o2.co.uk/ComingSoon
me like the silveryness
weird though i ran the upgrade line and they are still convinced its avilable from today
as far as i know, the retentions department tend to release phones to upgrade customers earlier than the official release date, if they have the phone in stock already.
but right now, stocks not in yet...
i am due a upgrade and didnt think this was coming to 02. It meant to arrive today, can i just not except the phone and reorder the stellar? any ideas when i could get one?
Anybody else notice that O2 claim the Stellar includes an FM Radio?
I called them up today and they said it was being released tomorrow :S
So...
Is it the Stella or Stellar?
Also, why silver? The black Exec was the coolest of all the Universal's that I saw.
The o2 gossip mill is on the roll again telling every one something different, as i rang up again after being promised it would be out this afternoon to now be told its been put back to the 26th . Im sure these guys are getting thier info off of the same websites we are looking at and posting on .
One guy basically told me they look at gsmarena to find out what available on there own network. Im guessing that tehre has been one too many leaks and all data is on a release day basis only. If only they actually looked at the whole thing and realised that giving accurate info will help reatain customers hell it may even bring people in if they thought there provider was being even a bit open with them.
right off to shout at a user
It's been driving me literally mad for the last few days. I've tried different handsets and different SIMs and the problem appears to be with any T-Mobile SIM + 3G handset. Works fine when 3G is disabled. I've lived at DY5 for almost a year now and the reception never let me down until now - from time to time whoever calls me think my phone's off! Did Hard Reset my Kaiser a few times and changed the radio to 1.65.24.36.(Dutty's 6.1 19209 ROM). The other handset MDA Touch Plus(aka Niki) is brand new and has 1.58.21.23 radio. So my questions are:
1 Is there anyone else with a similar problem?
2 How do I fix it?
3 Best radio to ensure good reception in UK?
Any advice is welcome
It looks like everyone in the UK has a fantastic signal....except me of course...
You should probably speak directly to T-mobile because if you look at the Dudley DY5 postcode area here: http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/coverage/street-check/ you can see that the coverage should be perfect.
We had a problem at Castle Donington for a while and it turned out that there was a transmitter problem in the area that they were working on. Where I live in the East midlands has terrible reception for an urban area.
The vodafone map is probably more realistic as a lot of companies share the transmitters http://maps.vodafone.co.uk/coverageviewer/web/default.aspx
I can see in the DY5 area there are a few pockets of areas that aren't covered at the moment but will be in 6 months.
Rob
Thanks for your reply mate! I'll call them tomorrow...again! For the last couple of weeks or so T-Mo had some DNS problems here and now this...
By the way I couldn't follow your second link - it says my browser's no good. In fact all three of them. I guess one needs a special voda-complient super browser to access that site
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Thanks for your reply mate! I'll call them tomorrow...again! For the last couple of weeks or so T-Mo had some DNS problems here and now this...
By the way I couldn't follow your second link - it says my browser's no good. In fact all three of them. I guess one needs a special voda-complient super browser to access that site
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I use Firefox 3 ( http://www.mozilla.com ). I just tested it with IE and it worked too. Check that you haven't locked down the javascript too strongly or add maps.vodafone.co.uk as a trusted site in your browser.
It's probably worth you reading this particular post and thread http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showthread.php?t=79628&p=382191
Rob
rfarnell said:
I use Firefox 3 ( http://www.mozilla.com ). I just tested it with IE and it worked too. Check that you haven't locked down the javascript too strongly or add maps.vodafone.co.uk as a trusted site in your browser.
It's probably worth you reading this particular post and thread http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showthread.php?t=79628&p=382191
Rob
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I had the same problem when i was with t-mobil, went to the shop, and they told me to disable 3G, all staff had been advised to do it in the shop aswell.
Im in dudley, and it was the merry hill shop i went to, so maybe it is something to do with the area ?
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I had the same problem when i was with t-mobil, went to the shop, and they told me to disable 3G, all staff had been advised to do it in the shop aswell.
Im in dudley, and it was the merry hill shop i went to, so maybe it is something to do with the area ?
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I discovered that disabling 3G fixes the problem,but then there will be no point for me in staying with T-Mobile. I live a couple of miles away from Merry Hill, so I guess you're the first one to confirm that the reception problem does exist here.
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I use Firefox 3 ( http://www.mozilla.com ). I just tested it with IE and it worked too. Check that you haven't locked down the javascript too strongly or add maps.vodafone.co.uk as a trusted site in your browser.
It's probably worth you reading this particular post and thread http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showthread.php?t=79628&p=382191
Rob
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Someone had the same problem 3 years ago and all T-Mo could tell him is to swith to GSM...
Today I had no problems with phone calls, still 1-2 bars of signal, but if it happens again I'll have to insist they do something about it...
IE, Opera and Mozilla Firefox(not fan by the way) are all the three browsers I tried and all up to date. But that was smth to do with the fact that I'm using W'n'W with laptop, coz the site is accessible via online proxy...
Received a notification of a fw update today on my Sprint Note 8. Anyone else get it and maybe know what all it contains?
Camera app improvements, and a KRACK fix. That's why it's small.
I got it today as well. Didn't take it yet. I hate this phone. My service was crappy before, now it's at an all-time high with this piece of garbage. Sprint said I can return it but my rear camera glass is broke. Will they still take it back?
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I got it today as well. Didn't take it yet. I hate this phone. My service was crappy before, now it's at an all-time high with this piece of garbage. Sprint said I can return it but my rear camera glass is broke. Will they still take it back?
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Really? I love my Note8. By far the best phone I've ever had. Sprint cell signal has always been good where I am, and I'm almost always on WiFi anyway.
Got the Sprint OTA update N950USQU2BQJB a few days ago here in California which carried a security patch and Google Play Services update version 11.7.46 which has been terrible on my battery and particularly Pixel XL & OnePlus users as well as other devices according to online reports.
Have you updated to these versions and seen a dip In your battery life like many others have? And If so, have you seen a any difference in performance after updating your device with this last security patch update 'N950USQS2BQK3' rolled out by Sprint today (12/04/17) ?
Will this update 'N950USQS2BQK3' fix the issue of battery drain Sprint users have been experiencing in the past several weeks?
Thanks everyone.
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Really? I love my Note8. By far the best phone I've ever had. Sprint cell signal has always been good where I am, and I'm almost always on WiFi anyway.
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I'm between Baltimore and Washington DC. You would think an area so densely populated would have better service to accommodate the demand. We use a family locator app which was very good on our old phones (Note5 and S6). Now, I get an alert 20 minutes after someone arrives or leaves home.
Fortunately my employer supplies my with an iPad with date service thru Verizon
hebejebe said:
I got it today as well. Didn't take it yet. I hate this phone. My service was crappy before, now it's at an all-time high with this piece of garbage. Sprint said I can return it but my rear camera glass is broke. Will they still take it back?
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SAME!!!! Im SO mad at myself for breaking down and getting this horrible phone because of the 50% off promotion and not getting the LG V30 which I originally wanted but had a hard time justifying $38 a month for it being a single mother of two kids on a very tight budget. This phone is CRAP. I talked to sprint last week, talked to 3 different agents and basically was told since I was out of my 14 day window to deal with it. I HATE Sprint just as much as I hate the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 on the Sprint Network. Apps constantly go into a locked spinning like Facebook and I have to force stop apps atleast 20 times a day. Calls dont come through. I constantly keep receiving a text stating "Messenger's enhanced features have been enabled" (Confirmation ID: different evertime) ....I get this text msg anwhere from 5-10 times a day. Ive had done everything the forums have suggested to fix my problems and NOTHING has worked. I have reprogrammed and factory reset and just doesnt get any better! Im beyond frustrated with paying for basically a brick with crappy service!!!
You folks have gotten some pretty nasty lemons. My Note8 has been 100% problem-free. And it's one of the first off the line, since I pre-ordered.
FWIW, I have had problems with calls and messages on Sprint in the past with other phones, and it was a problem at Sprint. I called customer service/technical support, they fixed something at their end, and everything worked after that. I don't know if that's what you're experiencing, but that's just a FWIW.
Mine has been problem free as well aside from one hiccup after a BD update. Other than that it has been flawless.
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SAME!!!! Im SO mad at myself for breaking down and getting this horrible phone because of the 50% off promotion and not getting the LG V30 which I originally wanted but had a hard time justifying $38 a month for it being a single mother of two kids on a very tight budget. This phone is CRAP. I talked to sprint last week, talked to 3 different agents and basically was told since I was out of my 14 day window to deal with it. I HATE Sprint just as much as I hate the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 on the Sprint Network. Apps constantly go into a locked spinning like Facebook and I have to force stop apps atleast 20 times a day. Calls dont come through. I constantly keep receiving a text stating "Messenger's enhanced features have been enabled" (Confirmation ID: different evertime) ....I get this text msg anwhere from 5-10 times a day. Ive had done everything the forums have suggested to fix my problems and NOTHING has worked. I have reprogrammed and factory reset and just doesnt get any better! Im beyond frustrated with paying for basically a brick with crappy service!!!
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Well that sucks . I've had it since a week before launch and the N8 is amazing. No lag problems, no service problems. First phone with android in 7 yrs I haven't rooted .
THREAD CLEANED
1. This thread is about a firmware update, not whether or not you like your phone. Please stay on-topic.
2. Repeat flaming and trolling will be rewarded with infractions and banning per the forum rules.
Any thoughts on when the Oreo update is to drop?
I am very annoyed. I bought a P20 Pro in Twilight from Car Phone Warehouse, in the UK; it arrived yesterday. On first boot it showed Huawei 1st and 2nd splash screens. All subsequent boots with a Three network SIM installed all show the 2nd boot screen as a pig-ugly Three logo. Shutdown is the same.
Its a bit like me buying a broadband service from British Telecom. And as soon as I connect up my router, they send a man round to repaint my front door with their logo! How can this be?
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But there's more; my browser home-page was set to Three; why-on-Earth? Who in their right mind would want Three as a Homepage? Doh! And they also scattered a few odds and sods of applications for me to remove.
I had a look around and it seems there is a 'cust' folder at / which has stuff to decide if its EE O2 Vodafone or Three. And it crams cr-a-p in you do not want or need.
Removing the Three SIM and trying an O2 SIM did not remove the Three banding. So that means if I wanted to sell it at some point next year I would l would not get as much as if it were free of the THREE grot..
Today, I took my phone back and got a refund. But I've got a complaint running with Three and I'll take it all the way to the Ombudsman. I'll also contact the THREE CEO. I also include contact details from Companies House for their CEO for anyone else who may wish to direct their displeasure at a phone being defiled in this way.
HUTCHISON 3G UK HOLDINGS LIMITED
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03918124/officers
CEO DYSON, David Richard
Correspondence address
Star House,, 20 Grenfell Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire, SL6 1EH
How do the Telecoms get away with this sh-i-t?
Did you buy it as being on the 3 network with a 3 SIM? It is annoying as CPW phones are normally unlocked but it is no different than if you had bought it direct from 3 - is it?
I bought mine in CPW and so such problems, had Vodafone and EE sums in it.
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Did you buy it as being on the 3 network with a 3 SIM? It is annoying as CPW phones are normally unlocked but it is no different than if you had bought it direct from 3 - is it?
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No I bought it as a SIM free (thus unlocked) phone.
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I bought mine in CPW and so such problems, had Vodafone and EE sums in it.
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What region code do you have? Mine was C782.
croques said:
I am very annoyed. I bought a P20 Pro in Twilight from Car Phone Warehouse, in the UK; it arrived yesterday. On first boot it showed Huawei 1st and 2nd splash screens. All subsequent boots with a Three network SIM installed all show the 2nd boot screen as a pig-ugly Three logo. Shutdown is the same.
Its a bit like me buying a broadband service from British Telecom. And as soon as I connect up my router, they send a man round to repaint my front door with their logo! How can this be?
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But there's more; my browser home-page was set to Three; why-on-Earth? Who in their right mind would want Three as a Homepage? Doh! And they also scattered a few odds and sods of applications for me to remove.
I had a look around and it seems there is a 'cust' folder at / which has stuff to decide if its EE O2 Vodafone or Three. And it crams cr-a-p in you do not want or need.
Removing the Three SIM and trying an O2 SIM did not remove the Three banding. So that means if I wanted to sell it at some point next year I would l would not get as much as if it were free of the THREE grot..
Today, I took my phone back and got a refund. But I've got a complaint running with Three and I'll take it all the way to the Ombudsman. I'll also contact the THREE CEO. I also include contact details from Companies House for their CEO for anyone else who may wish to direct their displeasure at a phone being defiled in this way.
HUTCHISON 3G UK HOLDINGS LIMITED
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03918124/officers
CEO DYSON, David Richard
Correspondence address
Star House,, 20 Grenfell Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire, SL6 1EH
How do the Telecoms get away with this sh-i-t?
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Is it actually sim locked to carrier or network branded to carrier. Hopefully just the latter as I've got 2 the first one once I inserted a O2 sim then restarted and downloaded a few O2 apps but no O2 splash screen. I've not tried inserting my Vodafone sim yet, really hoping its not simlocked to O2.
Sorry off topic but I made a question about shortcuts in the question and answers section. It's just a simple question, but i dont think anyone will bother to answer. Just wondering if someone could take a look and try and help me. Thread is just called shortcuts. Thanks lol.
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And as a bit extra. I do not use Facebonk; never have; never will. And reading the news today about Suckerburg, in a while no-one will. But if you look under Apps there are three Facebonk system level apps running in addition to the one in the app drawer that I immediately removed, when setting up the phone. They are busy collecting your data no doubt. They can be disabled. But I'm starting to dislike Huawei.
They're all at it, though. I have Sony TV. I don't use Netflix; prefer to torrent; but my TV is calling Home to Netflix all the while even when 'off'!
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Is it actually sim locked to carrier or network branded to carrier. Hopefully just the latter [snip]....
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Hopefully neither!!! if you bought it as SIM free no-one has any right to defile your property with their branding!
The Phone remains unbraded, even if it looks like that. Just do a factory reset and insert a SIM from another carrier and it's going to install it's apps and customizations as a so-called "Firmware Update". The carrier customizations are installed alongside the regular OTA Updates, so you even won't have to wait for updated customizations if a FW update becomes available This is part of the deal between Huawei and the different carriers to keep phones branding-free and still be able to push apps and other carrier-specific optimizations to the phones. Like it or hate it, it's up to you.
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What region code do you have? Mine was C782.
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C636, dual sim
croques said:
Hopefully neither!!! if you bought it as SIM free no-one has any right to defile your property with their branding!
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I know, might just stick with my S9.. We'll see
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C636, dual sim
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Well that's not a European phone but Asia/Pacific. It works .... mainly ... but in the countryside you may have problems as the long range 800 and 850 MHz bands are missing. Did you know when you bought it that it wasn't for this region?
And did you get problems signing in for Huawei ID?
Three phones are supplied unlocked, so it hasn't been simlocked.
Factory reset should remove branding.
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Three phones are supplied unlocked, so it hasn't been simlocked.
Factory reset should remove branding.
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Firstly it wasn't a Three phone! I bought it SIM free from CPW - an independent retailer of phones as far as I am aware.
And secondly, no, when it was factory reset it retained the Three branding. In the CPW shop the assistant put an O2 SIM in the phone and it still remained Three on the splash screen.
Aavion posted earlier
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if I understand Aavion he's saying the branding will disappear after a while. But that only happens for the big four Telecoms. If you've a Virgin or GiffGaff or Tesco SIM in what happens then? I bet your life the phone will remain on the last brand recognized.
So we know the C782 is branded. We know that some bums are selling C636s seemingly VAT free from Hong-Kong and Ireland. And they remain unbranded but compromised; they do not have either 800 or 850 Mhz radio bands - the longer wavelengths that penetrate buildings and give a better reception, and very necessary in the UK.
Here is a short video of a C636 failing to work with Android Auto:-
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OYpgqqlnOLXn3aPam8_4tIltvm82xeCl
Anyone with information about the branding on C432?
croques said:
Firstly it wasn't a Three phone! I bought it SIM free from CPW - an independent retailer of phones as far as I am aware.
And secondly, no, when it was factory reset it retained the Three branding. In the CPW shop the assistant put an O2 SIM in the phone and it still remained Three on the splash screen.
Aavion posted earlier
if I understand Aavion he's saying the branding will disappear after a while. But that only happens for the big four Telecoms. If you've a Virgin or GiffGaff or Tesco SIM in what happens then? I bet your life the phone will remain on the last brand recognized.
So we know the C782 is branded. We know that some bums are selling C636s seemingly VAT free from Hong-Kong and Ireland. And they remain unbranded but compromised; they do not have either 800 or 850 Mhz radio bands - the longer wavelengths that penetrate buildings and give a better reception, and very necessary in the UK.
Here is a short video of a C636 failing to work with Android Auto:-
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OYpgqqlnOLXn3aPam8_4tIltvm82xeCl
Anyone with information about the branding on C432?
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My c782 is not carrier branded. It's sim locked to three ireland as I bought from then. After 140 euro of top ups, I can get sim unlock code for free.
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Mine was purchased through O2 directly online, it has no branding, and it currently using an EE sim card.
I would place the blame with either 3 or carphone not Huawei.
My C782, was bought online for an O2 contract but branded itself 3 when I put my other contract's 3 sim in.
The branding is in the Cust folder in root. It has folders for EE, 3, O2, Virgin & Vodafone, although the 3 folder is the only one with a custom bootanimation in it. I don't know if this is because the others were deleted when the branding took place or if 3 is the only network that changes the bootanimation, you'd have to unpack a C782 rom to see.
Unlocking the bootloader appeared to produce a full reset, including clearing internal memory (at least it did on mine), so one would imagine that relocking, unlocking (& maybe flashing new update) would return the phone to unbranded. Unfortunately I unlocked the bootloader before putting the 3 sim in, so I don't know
Still angry - draft to CEO of Three
David Richard Dyson
Chief Executive
Hutchison 3G UK Holdings Limited
Star House,
20 Grenfell Road,
Maidenhead,
Berkshire,
SL6 1EH
Dear Dave,
I wouldn’t normally have the temerity to address a Chief Executive by his given name; I see you post it around the Three website though, so I trust it will be acceptable to you; accept my apologies if not, Dave.
I write about my experience with Three over the past 9 months and recently. Forgive my long-windedness, my style and any poor erudition you may discern. I wish to appraise you of all circumstances fully. I would imagine any CEO with his/her finger on the pulse of their business would gladly accept raw customer feedback.
I will start, out of sequence, with recent happenings. This is going to be very raw – I’m very still angry. My prose may betray me.
On Tuesday of this week I ordered an Huawei P20 Pro phone from Car Phone Warehouse. I bought it SIM free and paid nigh on £800 for its bright-shiny newness. It was a wondrous thing to behold and I began to like it immediately. I placed my Three, monthly contract, SIM in and switched on. During set-up I was a little concerned to find an application open; one of yours which required me to accept something or other. I did not wish anything of Three on my phone but could find no way of going forward in the set-up process. So I shut the phone down and restarted. I don’t suppose you can imagine my consternation, my growing anger, my rage even, when I saw a Three logo on the second splash screen of boot-up.
When I was able to look closely at MY phone if was littered with your, (well, Three’s; I’m using ‘your’ and ‘you’ for the Three body corporate; I’ll leave you to interpret), dross…. My phone was littered with your dross. My browser had been redirected to always start on Three! There was a Wuntu app and I guess a Candy-Crush wannabe also littering my phone for which I had no need. You’ll no doubt say customers like this. No Dave, we don’t!
I do have to ask the questions. Why? When did I give Three permission to do this? Why can’t I remove all it? Apps and the home screen setting went easily enough. The splash screen was written in to place with system wide permissions and only apps signed with an Huawei key can do this, as you know. So that means you conspired with Huawei to do this to me! You had meetings about it; you thought it would be a - ‘good idea’. For whom? Who in their right mind would ever imagine, even in the wildest depths of stupor that phone users would like to have a crass, badly drawn figure 3, looking as if it has dragon scales, to adorn their phone. All displayed on the brightest eye-screwingly bright-whiteness. I really cannot fathom the stupidity; the arrogance, the paternalism you must exhibit to allow you to make these assumptions for me, Simply crass, Dave, on your part in 2018. And be in no doubt, ‘you’ and ‘your’ here refers to the personal you.
To be be clear, Dave, I bought a phone from an independent retailer, I purposely avoided Three stores and, excuse me, I don’t normally revert to the vernacular but it seems the only way to express my rage, I find your **** all over my phone! How can this be? By what right do you do this?
Imagine for moment you have changed broadband supplier at home. (I mean ‘you’ the person here. I’m sure you get it.) The new router arrives and you connect up, you enter the password and start web-surfing. A moment or two later a van pulls up outside and workmen start to repaint the front door of your house in the colours of the broadband provider’s logo. But more, the workmen enter your house, unasked, and reset your computer to always start at the broadband providers home page in the style of the now defunct AOL and Compuserve. But, still more, the workmen then proceeded to place scatter cushions with cartoon prints around the sitting room.
I imagine you would be outraged at the defiling of your home in this way.
I am outraged that Three has defiled my phone. I am so outraged that the phone was returned to CPW for a refund yesterday.
What can you take away from this, Dave? Well, I note you are one of those policy-on-paper guys. It’s so easy isn’t it. You have an 11 o’clock with a few other execs – they’re only a bit younger than me I see and likely over-the-hill too. You all throw something together that you think will impress the punters; you put it out there and go to lunch. But you’ve forgotten it all since haven’t you, Dave?
What is your policy now? What is it that your mission statement says?
Let me show you part of it:-
Our commitment to #makeitright is reflected through the way we do business.
We’re dedicated to running our business responsibly.
From respecting human rights and upholding ethical standards to using innovation to make things better for our people, customers and communities.
We recognise the positive impact that we can have when we make the most of our skills and resources to address some of the most pressing social and environmental issues. Especially when we engage our people, customers and supply partners to achieve more together.
How does any of that fit what you have done to my phone, bought entirely independently and now defiled.? A factory reset and a non Three SIM inserted did not remove your splash logo on start-up and shutdown. So straight our away the phone has it’s second-hand sale value reduced significantly. Your decision did that; responsible; ethical, you think? Respecting human rights; do you? My right is to have a phone as I bought it; all I buy from you is airtime and the carriage of my data packets, that’s all; nothing more. Do that and you might begin to be ethical and make things better for people, but at the moment you are just dishing out grief.
To #makeitright I suggest you ask one of your developers to write an app to remove your pernicious dreadful defiling dross. Get the app written; release it into the wild and apologise. Go on #makeitright!
And while I’m talking about #makeitright, why is it that the data rate for a text message or multimedia messages per megabyte costs tens or hundreds of times the cost of a IP data per megabyte. I’ve never understood why you do that; ethical, responsible? No, I don’t think so; and I bet you don’t too. Go on Dave, #makeitright!
To continue about making things better; who on earth designed your logo? Was it even designed professionally? There are no two ways about it, Dave, it is ugly and to me, meaningless. I hope you didn’t pay much for it! The blooming thing is a lighthouse consuming God-knows-what number of milli-Watts before the phone’s brightness control comes on stream. It blasts the screen with full power to every red, green and blue light emitting diode. (Yes, I had an OLED screen.) That’s really clever of Three isn’t- help deplete the battery for no good reason; (that’s irony there, Dave). Save battery! Invert the colours! Save lives! Invert the colours! (Wasn’t there a French hostage recently too afraid to turn her phone on, fearing the screen light would be spotted by her captor?) But you haven’t thought around this have you? You’ve been there long enough in Maidenhead though. Shame on you. Perhaps you’ve risen to peak incompetence – I don’t want to be be rude but people in Human Systems sometimes do get to a level and coast along in a fuddle. Is that you now, Dave?
So – where did we get to. We decided you are a policy-on-paper sort of guy, rather than actually putting policy into action. I don’t suppose anything I say will get you to change. People don’t generally. But optimism drives me to give it a go!
Guys on xda-developers.com tell me that only Three in the UK customize the Huawei splash screens with their logo. I wonder why the others were so constrained? What do they know that you don’t,, Dave? Perhaps they are more policy-in-practice people – do you think that might be it? Perhaps they listen to their customers, Dave. Could that be it?
Now I started my rambling whinge, for this is what it is, saying that all the dross you’ve been putting my way started 9 months ago. I was in New Zealand visiting my grandchildren when my phone rang in the middle of the night (New Zealand is 13 hours ahead, remember). Next morning a web-search revealed it was your lot; making a sales call I suppose. And it kept on happening.
My sister, back in the UK, was quite ill at the time and I needed to check who was calling because the call could be important. But Three kept ringing me nightly – 2 or 3 am. Each time I duly refused the call. Eventually I downloaded a call blocker. But that did little good because you’ve got many conjugations of number endings for your call-centre. So I might block 0333 338 1021 but next time the last two-digits would be something else. So all that repeated calling you do when calls are declined, ‘ethical’ is it, Dave, in your book?
Repeated calling in the middle of the night; ‘using innovation to make things better for our people, customers and communities’. Could Three not detect I was roaming, Dave? Did no-one there ever think that calls might be a nuisance in different time zones, Dave? (Dave, know this: I, and many other people, always find them intrusive, I’m a pro-active consumer, Dave. I tell you what I want. I don’t want you telling me; ever.) Whenever I sign-up anywhere I always refuse marketing. Its academic now, the GDPR will close your abuse-of-process down. From today your customers can set the dogs on you; and about time too.
But you are a policy-on-paper guy. You don’t have to worry about all this do you? The web page looks lovely; that’ll get the punters in! You’ve got to have come from a PR/Marketing background haven’t you? You are not like normal people. I met a woman once who was a rep for a pet food company. She really believed her products were superior to those of her company’s competitors. Is that it, Dave? Do you think Three is superior? Let reality bite, mate. Take a user-trip around Three as any customer might. You’ve never done that, have you?
I walked into a Three shop today and discovered that because I’m SIM only I don’t get access to your 800MHz band; ‘4G Voice’ I think he called it. Why, Dave? My money not good enough? Why am I on a second-class tier with less signal strength in buildings and in the wilds than those Three users who bought a Three phone? That cannot be right, Dave, can it? You are not really ‘respecting human rights’ by discriminating against me, are you. (I agree, a bit of a stretch this one but I could probably make a good case if I gave it some thought.)
Ah! I just had a thought. The FCC in the USA, most likely on the payroll of the corporates, are trying to get a two-speed internet; pay more and go faster; is that what you are planning Dave? Some businesses in the USA want it; the thinking populace at large doesn’t and they cynically know they will get no benefit, just increased prices and slower routing. They will be screwed!
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I know things didn’t go too well with your OFCOM appeal, Dave, and you only have a tiny bit of 800MHz spectrum you got from EE. Shame! Are you trying to make a feature of the mess you are in and the tiny bit of bandwidth you have? “Let’s call it ‘4G Voice’ and no one will know what it is and we can use it for sales pitches to the undecided. ‘If you buy our phone, Madam, we’ll give you free 4G Voice!’”
Voice-over-WiFi that kicks in when the phone signal is weak was a discovery on the Huawei too. You’ve been with-holding that from me as well. And that is not justifiable either Dave. Ethical, responsible? No; not Three.
I engaged your complaints procedure two days ago. I found myself interacting with Resolver.com. Well, OK, you’ve farmed complaints out; saves getting down and dirty doesn’t it? I made a complaint about unwanted Three branding defiling my property. The quite-serious complaint I’ve already explained to you was sent off. I received a message back the following day asking for name, address and phone number. All that information I gave the day before and was on the form that Resolver returned, printed plainly as part of the message. Clearly the handler decided to bat the case away for someone else to deal with. It happens. On my watch they would be helped to find employment suitable for their aptitude. Also, though, I was asked for my Date of Birth. I refused to give it. All the stuff I was being asked is exactly the kind of information hackers use to take over an identity. And I know nothing of Resolver.com and their bona fides. Now with GDPR you might think a bit more about the stuff you ask for. I would be identifiable to Three well enough from my name and telephone number; the last four digits of my bank account, the account which you debit monthly, would prove it was I. A small system change made by Three now and a future data leak at Resolver.com becomes less concerning. Got anyone in IT thinking about this? They probably do and already have. You look a fun guy though, I guess the golf course beckons quite often so you don’t get to hear wise counsel all that much. You’ve written your policy – and – well - the place runs itself doesn’t it?
And finally, today I contacted Three for a PAC code. Annie, bless her, was in an Indian call centre. She couldn’t understand me and I couldn’t understand her. Oh!! What a time we had, Annie and I! If communications engineering is your thing, then you’ll know preventing extraneous signal noise is vital. The noise on the channel this time though was not about signal processing, but simply human variation and accents, plus age-related hearing loss, all conspiring to make verbal communication difficult and stressful. When eventually she accepted I really was wanting to be away from Three I got passed to Rama; with slightly better English pronunciation and clarity of speech. But she too thought I might want to stay. Reading all the foregoing you might understand when I ask ‘why, in their right mind, would anyone want to’?
What do I take away from this? Huawei and the big four UK Telcoms are doing deals with each other that impinge on my rights and resale value of my phone; Huawei and the big four are to be avoided. The others of the ‘big four’ are not nearly so evil as Three. I judge people and businesses by what they do not what they say they do. More vernacular coming; I’m still raging.
I was only paying you 15 quid a month so I’m of no consequence. Enjoy your 9 holes of golf and lunch but kindly know you’ll **** on me no longer. But, for heaven’s sake, put your company policy into action and think a little bit, would you, Dave!
Yours sincerely but still very angry,
ps. The resolver.com is still running; I have heard nothing meaningful today from anyone at Three; I guess it will drift towards the Ombudsman and OFCOM sooner or later.
Wow, that's quite the opus! Looking forward to seeing what sort of response you get. I bought directly from Three but still unhappy about having the branding and the crappy apps foisted on me, not really much room to complain though.
shadowgolf said:
.... still unhappy about having the branding and the crappy apps foisted on me, not really much room to complain though.
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You have every right to complain!! Why should you have a defiled phone?
Dave's address is above write to him and tell him he's a scumbag!
Is it just me or are they completely gone from Amazon? Wonder why?
Wondering the same thing myself. Have one on order should have arrived today but didn't make it, should be tomorrow.
I've read the amounts available will be limited and sporadic. It *may* be they sold out and are waiting for stock. I don't think that's the same as 'being pulled' as you indicate.
I know the supplier I bought from is still selling other phones on Amazon, but that's about it. The listing is gone, but that *could* mean they are just out of stock.
do you know more about it?
I would hope there would be multiple sellers on Amazon but I saw not. However there's still a ton on eBay. So it's got me wondering. Either way I got mine. So far so good.
Nickdroid86 said:
I would hope there would be multiple sellers on Amazon but I saw not. However there's still a ton on eBay. So it's got me wondering. Either way I got mine. So far so good.
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Amazon Germany still sells both phones
I wrote the seller here and he responded. They're just sold out is all, lol. Good to know. I hope sales so really well for this phone.
Just got mine a few hours ago... I'm ecstatic!
A few of the things that are really different than other phones I've had:
1) a Wifi or phone Network connection happens so fast if you blink you'll miss it. I just love that.
2) The hidden antenna results in my t-mo connection (to 2G) is at 5 bars, consistently. Astounding really. My LG G6 sometimes has 3, rarely up to 4, and even falls all the way to 1 (tried to make a call at 1 and it said 'no network available').
3) Volume of the speaker ** IS ** quite loud. More so than other phones I've had for sure.
4) The screen is really fine. With things that are highly video oriented, may be a let down for some, not me. Not a gamer.
5) Android One rocks! It's pretty much just like LineageOS, which I'm very familiar with. It really gets tiring to have to learn
a new UI implementation, MIUI, EMUI, Sammys version, and on and on and on. Hate it. So tired of it. I know, some of the have
a good feature here and there, but it's too few and too far between imho.
Very happy with this phone
I purchased mine at Sunsky from china, good service, also dirty cheap cases and tempered screen protectors.
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