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Sorry, maybe a stupid question.
Is it not possible to flash one of the HTC ROM's onto X1?
Nope, it will not work.
I figured that much, but can someone on here maybe explain? From what I could see it has the same processor as X1 etc.
LFCFredda said:
Nope, it will not work.
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Hero/Dream/Magic are running android, not windows mobile....they are working on making an android version for the X1.
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WC
HTC said Sense UI will be avail on windows mobile as well...but in the meantime theres quite a few tread people porting linux android over to windows and xperia u should read up on that
jtoyz2 said:
HTC said Sense UI will be avail on windows mobile as well...but in the meantime theres quite a few tread people porting linux android over to windows and xperia u should read up on that
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I know people are trying to get android onto X1 and hence my question. Why is it not possible to just use the android rom (with some mods) from the HTC phones as most of the hardware seems similar?
stevenvm said:
I know people are trying to get android onto X1 and hence my question. Why is it not possible to just use the android rom (with some mods) from the HTC phones as most of the hardware seems similar?
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I guess we just have to wait to see what the amazing cooks come up with!
stevenvm said:
I figured that much, but can someone on here maybe explain? From what I could see it has the same processor as X1 etc.
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it's basicly misc Hardware stuff.
CPU might be the same same jeah, but evyerthing else is not. neither the chipsets for the keyboard are, nor is the chipset for making phonecalls, nor the memory and so on.
it's liek trying to fit a Mazda Elektronics into a ford ka. maybe u can squeeze it in but im sure it wont work since the electronic doesnt know any part of the new car.
achmed20 said:
it's basicly misc Hardware stuff.
CPU might be the same same jeah, but evyerthing else is not. neither the chipsets for the keyboard are, nor is the chipset for making phonecalls, nor the memory and so on.
it's liek trying to fit a Mazda Elektronics into a ford ka. maybe u can squeeze it in but im sure it wont work since the electronic doesnt know any part of the new car.
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i notice some fatal mistakes in your setence
achmed20 said:
it's basicly misc Hardware stuff.
CPU might be the same same jeah, but evyerthing else is not. neither the chipsets for the keyboard are, nor is the chipset for making phonecalls, nor the memory and so on.
it's liek trying to fit a Mazda Elektronics into a ford ka. maybe u can squeeze it in but im sure it wont work since the electronic doesnt know any part of the new car.
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electronic doesn't need to know the car. because in computer systems, there exist another layer between the electronic and the car.
it's called the kernel. hardware abstraction layer.
it'll work... just need someone free enough to make it work.
no further explanations please! lets pretend it is magic
/me swings the magic wand
ps: jeah i know .. im king of typos and abstract examples ^^
Is there anybody working on this right now?
Would love a Hero/etc android ROM on my X1, definitely. Just got a Hero and I'm loving it to bits.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kovsky Linux
i think so.such as a computer with Windows or linux or sth. else ..
hi
I'm very surprised because tuxhero said yesterday that the blackstone has compass harware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4304713&postcount=833
bad link... you cant link it with dots: )
Not sure but some sources say that we have it.
daguerrotipo said:
hi
I'm very surprised because tuxhero said yesterday that the blackstone has compass harware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=833
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Your link does not work
Fallen Spartan said:
Your link does not work
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4304713&postcount=833
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Not sure but some sources say that we have it.
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"1. Today i came to know that our Blackstone has Compass Hardware too and we have code for it too."
Seems to me that you were sure?
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"1. Today i came to know that our Blackstone has Compass Hardware too and we have code for it too."
Seems to me that you were sure?
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Ya but not tested it to be so sure
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Ya but not tested it to be so sure
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Ahh righto
I think we do have.
Thats the shame 'bout HTC (besides da poor quality of hard- and software): they setup ONE hardware and make 5 PDAs with slighty changed details. they were never interested in making good hardware.. everytime they took something away the previous model had... now, they do have android and are able to clone nearly the same device just with another OS.
in commercial aspects, this makes sense.... but as consumer I can only think of it as a pain in the neck. my old universal has a high res display, a 3,5mm audioconnector, a well made keyboard and a fast cpu... years ago... a shame it is the size of a brick .
If someone would mad it possible to use the Compass HW with WinMo i would gladly set a bounty of 50$.
Goal would be a little App to proof that it ist working plus the sourcecode for other Devs.
Does anyone join in?
its probably another 'tv out' scenario...
basically the chipset has the tech but other required hardware / software is not present hence the features can never be used.
why on earth HTC cripple devices like this is boggling.....if the HD had been released with TV-out (which the qualcomm chipset supports) & a hw compass (to be confimed) it would have levelled the competition.....
i am sure their marketing strategy has good reasons for not doing...but as said earlier from the consumers point of view its a pain in the butt...especially considering some of us are locked in 24 month contracts.!! so wont be purchasing other handsets even if we wanted too.
lets hope some clever devs find a way to unlock these features!! (if possible)
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its probably another 'tv out' scenario...
basically the chipset has the tech but other required hardware / software is not present hence the features can never be used.
why on earth HTC cripple devices like this is boggling.....if the HD had been released with TV-out (which the qualcomm chipset supports) & a hw compass (to be confimed) it would have levelled the competition.....
i am sure their marketing strategy has good reasons for not doing...but as said earlier from the consumers point of view its a pain in the butt...especially considering some of us are locked in 24 month contracts.!! so wont be purchasing other handsets even if we wanted too.
lets hope some clever devs find a way to unlock these features!! (if possible)
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I disagree your argumentation:
Developers here wrote drivers to implement TMC and RDS into the features of the Blackstone. HTC hasn´t done it yet.
HTC seems to leave possible feature unused. Maybe to save time for their developers.
The old topic of a missing video driver is another example for that.
Draque:the_Plaque said:
If someone would mad it possible to use the Compass HW with WinMo i would gladly set a bounty of 50$.
Goal would be a little App to proof that it ist working plus the sourcecode for other Devs.
Does anyone join in?
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50$ from me for unlocking the feature + another 100$ if anyone makes it work with Google Maps + another 100$ if someone makes an augmented reality app like Wikitude (Android).
Only if it's done before the release of the HTC Leo
It's a AK8976A chip
well i would chip in $50 as well .. if it worked !!
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It's a AK8976A chip
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is the same that dream phone?
Byes
haha, did anyone think that they mite have released the phone in haste, or maybe they did it on purpose to allow the release of the HD pro to include such features, along with a 128GB internal memory (i wish).
ghosty_uk said:
haha, did anyone think that they mite have released the phone in haste, or maybe they did it on purpose to allow the release of the HD pro to include such features, along with a 128GB internal memory (i wish).
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Sometimes happen... It's true that more with anothers brands (apple), I can remember Ipod touch, iphone, wifi in the macs....
may be this time no but is possible.
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I've read the same thread from Tuxhero and I have to see it before I believe it. The only thing we've got is a blanket statement that he has read it somewhere. Someone else created slight confusion on this site before with similar statements.
Not saying that he's lying (in fact, I hope he's right), a source would help. Until then, I'm not getting my hopes up.
Im guessin they didnt include alot of features cause when the phone was released whoever ws going to buy it would buy it anyway, and when competitors (Iphone3gs) release phones with features like the compass thing etc , htc can easily release newer phones with the same features ... sort of like having it ready on earlier models so when they need to release it they can quickly!
My guess
I was looking at the Chevy Volt the other day and it got me thinking - has anyone here got any experience working with automotive firmware?
The problem with the Volt is that it has no true EV mode - no matter what, you will use fuel sooner or later. There's no button you can push to make it stick with EV at all costs. Personally I wouldn't buy one unless I at least had that option. Obviously you have to worry about how to connect to it in the first place, and then there's how well locked down they've made it etc. It would seem possible given that it's been common practice to swap out the chips on cars to gain more performance for some time now.
So the question is, has anyone tried this sort of thing? How different would it be to hacking phones?
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I was looking at the Chevy Volt the other day and it got me thinking - has anyone here got any experience working with automotive firmware?
The problem with the Volt is that it has no true EV mode - no matter what, you will use fuel sooner or later. There's no button you can push to make it stick with EV at all costs. Personally I wouldn't buy one unless I at least had that option. Obviously you have to worry about how to connect to it in the first place, and then there's how well locked down they've made it etc. It would seem possible given that it's been common practice to swap out the chips on cars to gain more performance for some time now.
So the question is, has anyone tried this sort of thing? How different would it be to hacking phones?
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How different from phones ? I say it is LOT different its completly 2 different thing we need some experts to do any kind of modification ..
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If man can put cheese in a can, he can do anything.
How about you request a new forum for the Volt here and let us know the reply please?
*** New Device Forum Requests ***
There are three questions you need to ask.
A. What OS is it running (if it's not an existing one there's a whole nother level of difficulty in place)?
B. What kind of security does Chevy have in place to prevent modifying the software (I would imagine it's probably locked down pretty tight)?
C. Is there anything to be gained by modifying the software?
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There are three questions you need to ask.
A. What OS is it running (if it's not an existing one there's a whole nother level of difficulty in place)?
B. What kind of security does Chevy have in place to prevent modifying the software (I would imagine it's probably locked down pretty tight)?
C. Is there anything to be gained by modifying the software?
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I don't see why they would even bother locking it down. Most people that own the vehicle probably won't even realize that it's an operating system.
Edit: And I'm guessing it's some form of Android.
veeman said:
I don't see why they would even bother locking it down. Most people that own the vehicle probably won't even realize that it's an operating system.
Edit: And I'm guessing it's some form of Android.
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Good point, I just would imagine they would use some sort of security to remove an incentive to steal the device (but I'm assuming it could be removed from the dash somehow).
I'VE JUST UNLOCKED MY VOLT. You use the little button with the open lock on the remote. Now its a matter of internal business!
This is my signature.
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If man can put cheese in a can, he can do anything.
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I could get a good look at a t-bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.
Sent from my coffee pot.
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Exactly.
Sent from my coffee pot.
Or if you're feeling nostalgic for 2010
Toyota, moving forward...because we can't stop.
I forgot all about that insanity.
MissionImprobable said:
If man can put cheese in a can, he can do anything.
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Nonsense
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i just purchased this with 30$ in my country from a guy and every things work find,i can charge and connect to pc to root this device,the only thing not work is camera :angel:
How about the feature?
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IngressID said:
How about the feature?
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every thing work fine mate except camera i already root and but on some apps
That's not a Gear, it's a knock off. There's probably nothing behind the camera lens. Here's the back of a real Gear.
BarryH_GEG said:
That's not a Gear, it's a knock off. There's probably nothing behind the camera lens. Here's the back of a real Gear.
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well except camera every things work for me :silly:
lgiang94 said:
well except camera every things work for me :silly:
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My s/n sequence it totally different than yours.
BarryH_GEG said:
My s/n sequence it totally different than yours.
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yeah that the weird thing
BarryH_GEG said:
My s/n sequence it totally different than yours.
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mate this is so weird because is seem like this is galaxy gear
Hate to be "that guy" but showing pics of the front and back mean nothing to me. .. for all I know you are trying to sell these things in ebay and you are linking people to this site with the ol "go check out the pics and comments"... it is mega simple for you to post pics of a BS back and jacked up about screen on a knock off gear and screen shots of a legit gear in the same post and pass them off as the same device. .... like I said not to sound like that guy ... just saying what I think. .. I will back pedal on my statements with a simple video post of the device showing all the above screen shots. .. hell you did not even show a pic with the stock Samsung clock. ..[emoji37]
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Hate to be "that guy" but showing pics of the front and back mean nothing to me. .. for all I know you are trying to sell these things in ebay and you are linking people to this site with the ol "go check out the pics and comments"... it is mega simple for you to post pics of a BS back and jacked up about screen on a knock off gear and screen shots of a legit gear in the same post and pass them off as the same device. .... like I said not to sound like that guy ... just saying what I think. .. I will back pedal on my statements with a simple video post of the device showing all the above screen shots. .. hell you did not even show a pic with the stock Samsung clock. ..[emoji37]
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well you think to much mate i just want to show people this weird "Gear" .Every things work fine so i'm not going to sell "these things" and mate i dont even know how to use ebay :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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well you think to much mate i just want to show people this weird "Gear" .Every things work fine so i'm not going to sell "these things" and mate i dont even know how to use ebay :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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You purchased it "from a guy"? Seems legit. But seriously if you think this is a real Gear, you're wildly mistaken. In fact there are a lot of different rip offs - see below.
The camera doesn't work because it's a fake - furthermore, it's not even running Tizen, as your firmware states : V700XXUBNC1, (AKA android).
Buy cheap, buy thrice and enjoy your cheap knock off
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You purchased it "from a guy"? Seems legit. But seriously if you think this is a real Gear, you're wildly mistaken. In fact there are a lot of different rip offs - see below.
The camera doesn't work because it's a fake - furthermore, it's not even running Tizen, as your firmware states : V700XXUBNC1, (AKA android).
Buy cheap, buy thrice and enjoy your cheap knock off
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ok i still believe this is a real gear only broken camera and is not running tizen because i not update to it .this is my gear so you can check is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0VNb7o390M
lgiang94 said:
ok i still believe this is a real gear only broken camera and is not running tizen because i not update to it .this is my gear so you can check is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0VNb7o390M
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Why wouldn't you update to Tizen considering it's better in every way?! If you think it's genuine, then maybe Tizen will fix your camera issue? Plug it into your PC, what does Samsung Kies say about your device?
Real or not for 30 bucks you win and it works just like a real one kudos bro
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Why wouldn't you update to Tizen considering it's better in every way?! If you think it's genuine, then maybe Tizen will fix your camera issue? Plug it into your PC, what does Samsung Kies say about your device?
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i not trying with samsung kies and i dont want to update to tizen yet because i like 3rd apps after root this device
i update it to tizen via Samsung kies and the camera still not working every things work fine the only weird thing is the serial number is all zero to me
Cod3L1ne said:
Real or not for 30 bucks you win and it works just like a real one kudos bro
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Apart from the camera!
lgiang94 said:
i update it to tizen via Samsung kies and the camera still not working every things work fine the only weird thing is the serial number is all zero to me
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Ya I don't think the camera's going to work. It's obviously a very good fake, fair play, but you're not going to get that working. It's a shame because it's the best feature of the gear imo!
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Why wouldn't you update to Tizen considering it's better in every way?! If you think it's genuine, then maybe Tizen will fix your camera issue? Plug it into your PC, what does Samsung Kies say about your device?
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Off topic I know, but I am interested in the 'its better in every way?' comment about Tizen. Early on there were teething probems it seemed but it is have been difficult to obtain up to date feedback. I have a Gear that I am considering moving to Tizen, but I have been waiting to learn if early problems have all gone away or were not real anyway.
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Why wouldn't you update to Tizen considering it's better in every way?! If you think it's genuine, then maybe Tizen will fix your camera issue? Plug it into your PC, what does Samsung Kies say about your device?
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If I had Tizen on mine, I would gladly throw it away.
Tizen is not everyone. Definitely not for me.
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Off topic I know, but I am interested in the 'its better in every way?' comment about Tizen. Early on there were teething probems it seemed but it is have been difficult to obtain up to date feedback. I have a Gear that I am considering moving to Tizen, but I have been waiting to learn if early problems have all gone away or were not real anyway.
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It depends on your problems. My issue was lack of apps. Now the store for Tizen is saturated compared to its former iteration. The battery is better, the way it deals with notifications (esp delete all)! The fact it can play music to a BT device are to name a few. For me I'd not even consider going back to Android.
@hurdlejade Definitely each to their own!
Hi,
I'm looking into buying a S21 Ultra or S21+ Live Demo unit for multimedia use only, the seller told me there is no software support since may 2021, is it possible to flash the rom of a "normal" variant to get the latest update ?
Thanks you a lot
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Demo units are not for sale, therefore almost always illegally obtained. Expect no support.
My advise is to stay away from demo units.
Standard international, up to date rom, can be flashed using odin on these device
Quentincc said:
Standard international, up to date rom, can be flashed using odin on these device
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Expect some issues. If you are looking for multimedia, remember when you do any unofficial mods to any Samsung phone. You will lose HD Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.etc. Unofficial mods dumps Google's Widevine keys. If it's not very cheap then normal S21U stay away from it. If it's like half price, It looks like a deal.
But as myself, if I was planning to buy demo unit I probably choose OnePlus or Xiaomi because they are more easily modable.
Quentincc said:
Standard international, up to date rom, can be flashed using odin on these device
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Is this based on actual experience for an S21 live demo unit?
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Is this based on actual experience for an S21 live demo unit?
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once you learn the ups and downs of flashing, you will realize alot s possible.. live demos should be no exception.
just about every samsung i believe is mod -able- in some fashion
and just remeber if it powers on.. its not completely bricked. samsungs are stout
Happy Flashing and GL M8
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once you learn the ups and downs of flashing, you will realize alot s possible.. live demos should be no exception.
just about every samsung i believe is mod -able- in some fashion
and just remeber if it powers on.. its not completely bricked. samsungs are stout
Happy Flashing and GL M8
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Except, you can't enable OEM unlock on the device, and the download mode screen is totally different to the standard S21...
Theory and practice are different. So I guess your response is not first hand experience?
tangcla said:
Except, you can't enable OEM unlock on the device, and the download mode screen is totally different to the standard S21...
Theory and practice are different. So I guess your response is not first hand experience?
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You are correct as far as a live demo model to which ive yet to try and mod. but lord knows i have been flashing my litttle heart away ever since the first TMO Galaxy preloaded with avatar lol.
STKO74 said:
You are correct as far as a live demo model to which ive yet to try and mod. but lord knows i have been flashing my litttle heart away ever since the first TMO Galaxy preloaded with avatar lol.
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So have I, but apparently the LDUs are totally different from what limited info I've found.
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There is only a few limitation like some benchmark that can't be installed, you can't connect to Samsung account but overall is very well usable, I guess I could go more in depth in rom flashing, rooting and so on but I don't really care right now
It can be OEM unlocked, I have the warning message at each boot that my bootloader is unlocked.
Also, I don't think it can OTA update, it's running the april update and it says that no update is available.