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Thanks to Kevlar-Source there is now a disassembly procedure at
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DIS_BA
Whoever wants change the LCD on BA has can buy the spare part at :
http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonexda2s.htm
or send the Ba for a Full Service Repairs to :
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~Qtek_9090-257~area~repairs~item~XDA-TS03.htm
http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/xda.htm
Unforunately I choosed the first way and now I am stuck on the fact that after installing the new Lcd screen from PDASMART the screen is completely blank , even if the Qtek seems to work , lights sounds etc
There are differences between the two LCD , connector and label , I am attaching a picture hoping someone will help in finding the cause of the problem ...
I wrote a couple of mail to PDASMART but I did not receive any answer to date
Ciao !!
Anyone know where I can buy steal/etc. one of those screws on the side of the BA?
Gbrand said:
There are differences between the two LCD , connector and label , I am attaching a picture hoping someone will help in finding the cause of the problem ...
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Hi,
what is your BA board id ?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelBoardIDs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelLCD
60H00018-00 and
60H00033-00 are obviously different.
what is your BA board id ?
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I dont know , I dont have Linux , and beside that the screen is absolutely blank ! Anyway, is an Italian QTEK 9090 from DAANGARD , if there is an alternative way to know Board Id , please let me know !javascript:emoticon('')
Very Happy
As you say is obvious the two LCD have different Sn , but as I am not an HW tech maybe someone on the Forum knows if they are compatible
The fact is that the LCD matter is quite misterious , is a piece of HW that easily breaks , and according to my knoweledge there is only one supplier shipping the part , PDASMART
What I did is buy the part from PDASMART , install it , test that it does not work , at least on my Qtek , write back to PDASMART a couple of Mail and I am still waiting for a replay !! javascript:emoticon(':evil:')
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To be honest I have the doubt that reassenbling the LCD I could have made something incorrect , but the reassembly procedure is well described on WIKI ...
Would not be bad if we can find a reliable source of spare LCD on the web and collect some info for WIKI .
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if there is an alternative way to know Board Id , please let me know
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Run haret.exe and post the 'dump gpio bagpio' output (the bagpio file).
http://sdgsystems.com/pub/ipaq/hx4700/starterkit/20050611/
What i really hate is that the damn fsckers who
sell the LCDs have really no idea what they are selling!!!
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There are differences between the two LCD , connector and label , I am attaching a picture hoping someone will help in finding the cause of the problem ...
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Left one is a Toppoly LCD (see http://www.toppoly.com/toppoly/Product/TD035STEC1.asp ) used in boardid 0x6 BAs, right one is a Sony one (ACX502BMV) used in boardid 0x5
Don't know how to change the board id, maybe some solder pads.
Left one is a Toppoly LCD (see http://www.toppoly.com/toppoly/Product/TD035STEC1.asp ) used in boardid 0x6 BAs, right one is a Sony one (ACX502BMV) used in boardid 0x5.
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So , my board id is 0x6 and PDASMART sent me a 0x5 Boardid LCD ,
Don't know how to change the board id, maybe some solder pads
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Anywone around knows how to solve the problem ?
PDASMART is quite latitant ! javascript:emoticon('')
Sad
Added picture of the toppoly and sony LCD on
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelLCD
Hope is the right place .
But still stuck on blank LCD .
Is board id something can be changed ?
How can I get out of this damned story ?
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Is board id something can be changed ?
How can I get out of this damned story ?
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It is interesting to force the id=5 setting in Linux
and check if the device will be working properly.
Then you can simply patch the wince-relevant binaries.
BTW, can you add your model to the boardIDs wiki page ?
BTW, can you add your model to the boardIDs wiki page ?
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done !
I can work on Qtek only through PC and SOTI Pocket Controller-Professional , I am afraid to install Linux , absolutely unknown to me , in this situation .
I had to force in Wince to not execute WELCOME , which take care of screen alligment , if WELCOME execute I am stuck on trying forever to allign the screen that cannot be alligned .
The most annoying thing is that PDASMART has not replied to me yet !!!
I asked for return the LCD back to them http://www.pdasmart.com/terms.htm
but to date no answer !
anyone gone and bought an LCD to find it's the wrong model?
If so please PM me and I might buy it off you if it's the right model for me!
Cheers!
9090 (ITA DAANGARD) display with problem
Hi, Sorry but You're not "the one". I've the same pda (daangard sold) and similar problem in the same city.
Time to time display blocks, needs hard reset (this is what I have done but not sure it was necessary), and " I was stuck on trying forever to allign the screen that cannot be alligned- it was need half hour".
About - "I had to force in Wince to not execute WELCOME" - How did you that?
I tought to take the pda, waiting one of my neighbour (that obviously i don't like) and use the pda as a stone (two birds with one act). If you want i could "take off" the display before that 8).
How about your bluetooth range and stability?
Best regards
Sergio
Gbrand said:
BTW, can you add your model to the boardIDs wiki page ?
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done !
I can work on Qtek only through PC and SOTI Pocket Controller-Professional , I am afraid to install Linux , absolutely unknown to me , in this situation .
I had to force in Wince to not execute WELCOME , which take care of screen alligment , if WELCOME execute I am stuck on trying forever to allign the screen that cannot be alligned .
The most annoying thing is that PDASMART has not replied to me yet !!!
I asked for return the LCD back to them http://www.pdasmart.com/terms.htm
but to date no answer !
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qteck 9090 not alignable
hello I have a 9090. It haS alwayS been a probelm : The StyluS iS no more aligned after 30 SecondeS or 1 minuteS of uSe Since i have it.
IS it common with thiS model ? Or my Screen iS broken?
That why I never really uSe thiS phone becauSe uSing the mini keyboard iS not very eaSy. If the Screen iS defect can you provide me an URL where to buy a new one? IS it epanSive?
thankS a lot.
How to replace the PCB cable of the LCD to the motherboard???
Mine is cutted... Were to buy one even if used?
Well .. I had to fix it... LCD anyone??
As I got no answer I bought a new LCD.. all OK now!.
If anyone needs a GOOD LCD with a cutted cable, please let me know.
cox said:
Hi, Sorry but You're not "the one". I've the same pda (daangard sold) and similar problem in the same city.
Time to time display blocks, needs hard reset (this is what I have done but not sure it was necessary), and " I was stuck on trying forever to allign the screen that cannot be alligned- it was need half hour".
About - "I had to force in Wince to not execute WELCOME" - How did you that?
I tought to take the pda, waiting one of my neighbour (that obviously i don't like) and use the pda as a stone (two birds with one act). If you want i could "take off" the display before that 8).
How about your bluetooth range and stability?
Best regards
Sergio
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I know this is an old topic, but 2 (3 with me) have/had the same problem..
Me too, I got only white screen, after I had only replaced the full housing case.. ..reunited all the parts, turned it on, and nothing, only white screen..
which was your solution? Come avete risolto?
Guys according to this Board ID and Screen ID table;
My SPV M2000 BlueAngel has 0x5 Board Id and can work with Sony LCD unit. But I had a Sony LCD unit brand new one from my previous i-mate pda2k; and device starts with a black screen. I can see energy is coming to screen but it never turns on.
Is there anyway to solve this problem?
So here is my story.. i have a perfectly working kaiser, and one with a broken lcd.. but both of them are in terrible cosmetic condition.. so i decide to order from ebay a full housing (with keyboard included) to make it look good and give it to my brother as a present..
I perfectly disassemble the device with the working screen and easily install it in the new housing.. but when i turn it on i realise that the only working hardware keyboard buttons were q e u o f h l and some arrows i think...
My first conclusion was that the keyboard included in the housing was not working correctly so i decide to use my old one. but to my surprise the old keyboard also has only the same working buttons!!!
after that i also tried the keyboard from my other kaiser ( with the broken screen) with the same results.
So up to this point, i guess it is safe to assume that the keyboards have no problem.. but then the mystery grows cause i exchanged every single piece of the phone with the broken kaiser's parts and the problem remains the same...
Any idea?? i am an engineer and problems like that that i cannot think of a reason that they are happening drive me nuts!!! please help me sleep at nights..
thanx in advance!
Hooray! Someone else who has the exact same problem as me! The phone I have had the LCD screen replaced and once it was reassembled, the keyboard is wacky. I tried reseating it and the same keys you mention are the only ones working: Q E U O F H L, CAP/Shift, Tab, Space, Enter and the 4 arrow keys. Nothing else works. I'd love to see if anyone has a solution to our problem. =)
Also, I'm not sure if it does it for you but the backlighting doesn't turn back on once it goes off - even when pressing the working keys. I found other posts on this forum with similar problems (with no replies) but their keyboards were not working at all. There has to be a simple solution that we're missing if it's this common.
Thats really weird that we have the same keys working... it really has to be something we are missing... but i have changed everything..
the only thing i didnt change is the lcd, so now that you are telling me that this happened only after you changed the lcd, it got me thinking that maybe the lcd is not as inocent as it may seem... cause,ok, my first thought was like wtf the lcd couldnt mess up with the keyboard.. but now that i think about it it is the only thing i havent tried to replace.. i have a broken one but still quite operative, so i will try with this one and get back at you.. if in the meanwhile anyone else knows something or has an idea, please help a little bit!
Like you, I cannot find any reason between the keyboard and the screen that would cause this. They're not connected in any way or share any cables. They connect to different parts of the main board... there's no logic that I can find.
I got mine second-hand and the original owner said she had the LCD replaced because of a couple dead pixels. The keyboard was working fine before that. Let me know what you find out. I was planning on ordering a replacement keyboard assembly from eBay but since you've tried a couple, that saves me from wasting that money.
Unfortunatelly the extra LCD i had was not operating at all, so the test i wanted to do failed, and i still dont know whats causing the problem... i am more or less convinced that i have to buy a new lcd but it is a bit of a risk to change the screen because some buttons on the keyboard dont work, dont you think?? anyway i am wondering y nobody else has nothing to say... this hasnt happened to anyone else??
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Unfortunatelly the extra LCD i had was not operating at all, so the test i wanted to do failed, and i still dont know whats causing the problem... i am more or less convinced that i have to buy a new lcd but it is a bit of a risk to change the screen because some buttons on the keyboard dont work, dont you think?? anyway i am wondering y nobody else has nothing to say... this hasnt happened to anyone else??
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Hey, why do not you try endkey replacement, you can read and download it at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704631
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Hey, why do not you try endkey replacement, you can read and download it at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704631
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thank you for your reply! but i don't understand how this would help for our problems..
i talked with htc yesterday and they told me it couldnt be the lcd, but during the lcd replacement probably the flexiboard was a little torned (needs a microscope to be verified..) i am giving it for a free test on monday so i guess i l have a more detailed answer soon!!
ilias_alk said:
thank you for your reply! but i don't understand how this would help for our problems..
i talked with htc yesterday and they told me it couldnt be the lcd, but during the lcd replacement probably the flexiboard was a little torned (needs a microscope to be verified..) i am giving it for a free test on monday so i guess i l have a more detailed answer soon!!
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Hmm, that's an interesting find. It's odd that the same problem exists on different phones, unless it's a common section/piece of the board/assembly that gets damaged. Are you going to try and use the assembly from your other phone? Let me know what happens. I'd like to know what piece I need to buy to get mine working again. =)
Hi guys i have a question ,i bought a Samsung Galaxy S and i notice a tiny green line going all the down of the left side ,there is no on right side top or bottom ,is this a hardwere issue ?do i need to return my Galaxy S for fix?
yes
rider17 said:
Hi guys i have a question ,i bought a Samsung Galaxy S and i notice a tiny green line going all the down of the left side ,there is no on right side top or bottom ,is this a hardwere issue ?do i need to return my Galaxy S for fix?
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yes,its hardware issue.
So my Galaxy S is broken
Is it really a hardwere issue ?
I have this too, but i recently had my screen replaced, I don't remember noticing it before (maybe i forgot). I think it is normal due to the sub-pixel (RGBG instead of RGB) make-up of the screen.
I have searched for it and it appears most people have it or don't notice it (We must be very eagle eyed). However I would like confirmation from someone with a SGS that has bought it new without a screen replacement.
Btw Rider17 is yours new? Has it had the screen replaced at any point? Can you post a picture? (I can't find my charger for my camera )
I bought it new,and if i notice i don't think so that it was replaced ,also i checked on google,and most if SGS users have this,i will take a picture and post it .
I have it on my Galaxy S, but the line is so small I barely notice it unless im looking for it.. and i only notice it on white backgrounds. But my screen is a replaced one and I cant remember if I had it before. But maybe your line is larger.. do you notice it on black backgrounds?
No it's only on white background noticeble ,it so tiny i hope it stay tiny
Go take it back. Why should you have to deal with a hardware issue if it's still within warranty and your warranty covers it?
Yea i have warranty but the line is not noticeble only if i put phone 1cm/inch to my eye,i read that a lot of users have same thing.
Hi dear XDA members,
I have some problem about my Note 5. I bought my phone 17 days ago. It is genuine. I was walking. And weather was sunny. I opened my phone and tried to call someone. Brightness was %100 (manual). I saw, Light Sensor worked (more Brightness). And Promixity Sensor worked too. Because, I was speaking with friend. I finished my call then I looked the screen:
What the….. Screen turned a green, purple, pink, black, gray, navy blue hue. I shocked and I got screenshot, then restarted Note 5. I check the screen when restarted. It was okay. I opened the screenshot for check it too. SS was ok too. This is my 1st problem. And i didn’t see this again.
Now, a 2nd problem in same day:
I’m using Swiftkey app with gray keyboard theme. I was chatting with friend. I called him (weather was sunny again) and turned back to keyboard.
What !? Gray keyboard turned a greenish hue. And I check my wallpaper (i was gray too). Its bottom lines turned a greenish hue too. Then I restarted phone and problem finished again.
Later, I called Customer Service Representative of Samsung. I explained all problem. She told me: “Format your phone. If problem isn’t finish, bring phone to service.”
Then, I formatted phone. Tested it many time. And there is no problem for 6-7 hours. BUT… I got the problem again. But I found some interesting tips to check the problem.
1. I checked *#0*# . And everyting is okay.
2. I opened my wallpaper in “Gallery” . And bring its top line to bottom line. So, gray was gray. But wallpaper’s bottom line was greenish on desktop. So, i think this isn’t Screen Panel problem. Looks like graphic bug. (Btw, notification bar's background was greenish too.)
3. I tried to active Light Sensor without “Calls” . And there is no problem about colors. Only in “Calls” . Looks like graphic bug with “Calls”
4. I didn’t restart my Note 5 when i got the problem again. I tried to lock off / lock on. And I saw: Screen turned to normal.
So, friends.. I think i will bring phone to service for research this problem. But I’m not sure. Problem looks like software bug. OR HARDWARE ? And maybe GPU problem ? (I didn't get problem in games, apps, etc.) I’m Confused…
Please help me. Must i go to service ? Or wait for new update etc.
P.S: My English isn’t so good i think. Thanks for understanding and helps.
Is my topic visible ? I'm new in forum.
Since this is a defect in their part, it should be covered under warranty. Just send it in, it is most likely a problem with the GPU or other component if even a format didn't fix it. If it was a software bug, the problem would be more widespread. It should be free of charge though because it isn't due to your use
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Since this is a defect in their part, it should be covered under warranty. Just send it in, it is most likely a problem with the GPU or other component if even a format didn't fix it. If it was a software bug, the problem would be more widespread. It should be free of charge though because it isn't due to your use
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Thanks for reply mate. I called customer service representative again. He told me: "If your phone is defective, we'll give you new Note 5 or you can take your money back. This is for new purchased phone (in 1 - 30 days)"
I will bring phone to service tomorrow. But I will be sad, if they tell me "it is software problem." I don't want to give my phone for nothing. But I don't have another way.
TY again.
Hi again mates !
I got the phone from service yesterday. They found nothing (very funny).
I spoke with employee :
* M = Me
* E = Employee
M: Did you open the phone's case for check the problem ?
E: No, I can't open the phone. This is risky.
M: So, How did you understand there is no problem ??
E: I think you used the phone as obsessively.
M: Wait. Did you tell me "obsession" ? I saw the problem with my eyes !
E: Mr. Cpt. Price, I mean: Don't care about it. Just use the phone. I used your phone for test. I saw nothing. You must take a video if you see problem. So, we can send it to SAMSUNG as proof.
M: You are very funny. I saw truth today. I saw Samsung's quality. Give me my phone.
So, guys I got the phone. And I'm using it with %98 brightness on a sunny day. So, there is no problem for now. I took that problem with %100 brightness on a sunny day. If i get that problem, I press lock off / on button. And problem is being finished.
I think I won't send it to service again. I won't spend my time for nothing. Sad but true: Apple is better than Samsung about satisfaction of service.
I will use the phone and if see a serious problem, i will go to service then.
I think that was a software problem or bug. What is your thought and advice ?
Regards...
Do you have any idea ?
Blair Miller said:
Since you only brought the phone 17 days ago, may be you could to change a new one in your supplier?
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They told me: We need to find a problem for change the phone. So, we can show proof to Samsung.
I don't know, how is Samsung services in other countries. But in my country: Samsung services are bad.
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Hello every one, 2 days before i noticed a line on my m31s. I have done nothing in my phone not even charging. Just i wake up at morning i see lines through my display. Actually the out side of the screen not even had a scratch. Some thing happened on the inside of my screen and i dont know why.And today the lines had developed into pink and black colours on bottom of display. It is manufacturing defect. Phone is only 25 days old. What can i do. If i go to service centre will they replace my phone? What will be the reason for this and what parts of phone needs to be replaced for this. Please help.....
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*****Please help******
Hello every one, 2 days before i noticed a line on my m31s. I have done nothing in my phone not even charging. Just i wake up at morning i see lines through my display. Actually the out side of the screen not even had a scratch. Some thing happened on the inside of my screen and i dont know why.And today the lines had developed into pink and black colours on bottom of display. It is manufacturing defect. Phone is only 25 days old. What can i do. If i go to service centre will they replace my phone? What will be the reason for this and what parts of phone needs to be replaced for this. Please help.....
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Hey man whether u solved your problem or not (For me also the problem occurred in galaxy m31 i given my mobile to service center they tell me to wait for some days)
Hello, Did you solve the problem, if yes how, if no why ?
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Hello every one, 2 days before i noticed a line on my m31s. I have done nothing in my phone not even charging. Just i wake up at morning i see lines through my display. Actually the out side of the screen not even had a scratch. Some thing happened on the inside of my screen and i dont know why.And today the lines had developed into pink and black colours on bottom of display. It is manufacturing defect. Phone is only 25 days old. What can i do. If i go to service centre will they replace my phone? What will be the reason for this and what parts of phone needs to be replaced for this. Please help.....
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