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I am posting here because I haven't made the requisite 10 posts to get access to post to the development forum. Is there a developer that would be willing to help me here?
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Dev assistance with a persistent sleep-lock and/or full-charge lock issue experienced with nearly all non-stock roms on a Samsung i897 with a fresh flash of CM 10. (CM 10 is not the relevant detail, this issue has happened with every non-stock-based rom based on anything newer than and including GB. (so GB/ICS/JB suffer this issue)
What are we calling sleep-lock?
Sleep-lock in this case is being defined as a spontaneous shutdown, lockup (requiring removal of battery to restart), or spontaneous restart of the Android OS. I understand that these three results may or may not be the product of the same root cause (in fact they're probably not) but I'm throwing them in the same bucket because they seem to be randomly happening when the phone is in a sleeping state.
What are we calling full-charge lock?
Full-Charge lock in this case is being defined as a spontaneous shutdown or lockup (requiring removal of battery to restart; I do not seem to suffer spontaneous restarts while on the charger). I understand that these two results may or may not be the product of the same root cause (in fact they're probably not) but I'm throwing them in the same bucket because they seem to all happen when the device is on the charger, but most often when the phone reaches or is near a full charge.
Troubleshooting done to date:
I have tried various ROMs over a long period of time, some were better than others, but they were all victims of this behavior. It doesn't seem to be device-specific (read as hardware) related but ever since DarkyRom that I tried shortly after I got this device a couple years ago, I have had this behavior. Stock ROMs do not suffer this behavior.
Who are you working with?
I am a Sr. Technical Team Leader for a Fortune 1000 VoIP software company and am well versed in troubleshooting methodology. I am somewhat newbish in the ways of logcat so I would ask for a little patience there, but am well versed in Windows, Linux, and many parts of the Android OS and flashing process including Odin, Hiem. and CWM. I'm seeking developer assistance because I am completely inept at code development.
The device that we're working with is a non-production (not relied upon for daily use) and I have no problem leaving it running with a logcat on it, or flashing any ROM you would ask for troubleshooting purposes. That said, the goal is to get the stable CM10 running without reboots or lockups.
Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.
--ChipSharp(DotCom)
chipsharpdotcom said:
I am posting here because I haven't made the requisite 10 posts to get access to post to the development forum. Is there a developer that would be willing to help me here?
Wanted:
Dev assistance with a persistent sleep-lock and/or full-charge lock issue experienced with nearly all non-stock roms on a Samsung i897 with a fresh flash of CM 10. (CM 10 is not the relevant detail, this issue has happened with every non-stock-based rom based on anything newer than and including GB. (so GB/ICS/JB suffer this issue)
What are we calling sleep-lock?
Sleep-lock in this case is being defined as a spontaneous shutdown, lockup (requiring removal of battery to restart), or spontaneous restart of the Android OS. I understand that these three results may or may not be the product of the same root cause (in fact they're probably not) but I'm throwing them in the same bucket because they seem to be randomly happening when the phone is in a sleeping state.
What are we calling full-charge lock?
Full-Charge lock in this case is being defined as a spontaneous shutdown or lockup (requiring removal of battery to restart; I do not seem to suffer spontaneous restarts while on the charger). I understand that these two results may or may not be the product of the same root cause (in fact they're probably not) but I'm throwing them in the same bucket because they seem to all happen when the device is on the charger, but most often when the phone reaches or is near a full charge.
Troubleshooting done to date:
I have tried various ROMs over a long period of time, some were better than others, but they were all victims of this behavior. It doesn't seem to be device-specific (read as hardware) related but ever since DarkyRom that I tried shortly after I got this device a couple years ago, I have had this behavior. Stock ROMs do not suffer this behavior.
Who are you working with?
I am a Sr. Technical Team Leader for a Fortune 1000 VoIP software company and am well versed in troubleshooting methodology. I am somewhat newbish in the ways of logcat so I would ask for a little patience there, but am well versed in Windows, Linux, and many parts of the Android OS and flashing process including Odin, Hiem. and CWM. I'm seeking developer assistance because I am completely inept at code development.
The device that we're working with is a non-production (not relied upon for daily use) and I have no problem leaving it running with a logcat on it, or flashing any ROM you would ask for troubleshooting purposes. That said, the goal is to get the stable CM10 running without reboots or lockups.
Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.
--ChipSharp(DotCom)
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There are many things that can cause what we call SoD (sleep of death). First off, if you have deep idle checked on, remove that (in your ROM options).
What are the changes/mods you made after flashing CM10 (assuming stable version)?
Do you OC/UV?
And finaly, after checking for those things, there's a possible fix. It seems to have work on those who don't have a hardware issue, flashing I9000 bootloaders. The link in my sig guides you through it for the I897. (I9000 being the international version of the captivate)
If you end up going that route, I would do a clean flash. So flash stock software (KK4 no BLs) through Odin or Heimdall, flash the BLs, flash corn kernel to get root and finally flash CM10.
There are no real fix if it's a hardware issue that I'm aware of but hopefully it isn't. Also, I know you want to run CM10 on it but some people reported that running Mosaic 9 fixed their SoD problem. (It is the last I9000 ported ROM)
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There are many things that can cause what we call SoD (sleep of death). First off, if you have deep idle checked on, remove that (in your ROM options).
What are the changes/mods you made after flashing CM10 (assuming stable version)?
Do you OC/UV?
And finaly, after checking for those things, there's a possible fix. It seems to have work on those who don't have a hardware issue, flashing I9000 bootloaders. The link in my sig guides you through it for the I897. (I9000 being the international version of the captivate)
If you end up going that route, I would do a clean flash. So flash stock software (KK4 no BLs) through Odin or Heimdall, flash the BLs, flash corn kernel to get root and finally flash CM10.
There are no real fix if it's a hardware issue that I'm aware of but hopefully it isn't. Also, I know you want to run CM10 on it but some people reported that running Mosaic 9 fixed their SoD problem. (It is the last I9000 ported ROM)
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Thanks for this information. I have read most of this information before, but I appreciate the info nonetheless.
Post install I don't do any customization in terms of OC/UV. So I'm fairly certain that's not it.
I'll run through what you've suggested here in order and see what I get. The specific order is the part that I've found unique. It may take a couple days to get back to you as my test cases involve a couple of charges/discharges, some "normal use" cases etc. I'll let you know my results.
Thank you again for your willingness to help. I'd like to maintain the usefullness of this device and I appreciate your assistance to that end.
--ChipSharp(DotCom)
chipsharpdotcom said:
Thanks for this information. I have read most of this information before, but I appreciate the info nonetheless.
Post install I don't do any customization in terms of OC/UV. So I'm fairly certain that's not it.
I'll run through what you've suggested here in order and see what I get. The specific order is the part that I've found unique. It may take a couple days to get back to you as my test cases involve a couple of charges/discharges, some "normal use" cases etc. I'll let you know my results.
Thank you again for your willingness to help. I'd like to maintain the usefullness of this device and I appreciate your assistance to that end.
--ChipSharp(DotCom)
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If you tried the other stuff and the I9000 bootloaders don't work, chances are that it's a hardware problem.
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If you tried the other stuff and the I9000 bootloaders don't work, chances are that it's a hardware problem.
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I'm going to give it a try right now....I'm less inclined to buy into the hardware theory though without having these problems on the Stock ROM.
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I'm going to give it a try right now....I'm less inclined to buy into the hardware theory though without having these problems on the Stock ROM.
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Try upping the voltage/minimum clock speed. That worked for me when I was running cm9 with the glitch kernel.
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Try upping the voltage/minimum clock speed. That worked for me when I was running cm9 with the glitch kernel.
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Thanks for the tip...I'll try that if all of the above doesn't work. At this point, I'm all flashed up and running test cases.
So none of the suggestions here (unfortunately) provided me any different results. That said, I have discovered a couple of different variables that may play a part in this.
1.) This issue only seems to come up when I have the device plugged into power only, not when I have it plugged into a computer.
2.) I think this may be related to trying to sleep while still maintaining the clock application. It seems that when I see this most often, it is when I am plugged into the wall, and I have an alarm set. I was able to be plugged into the wall overnight last week and have no problems without the alarm set, but when I set the alarm, I had the sleep-lock issue (and moreover as you would expect, my alarm did not sound).
Again, I have none of these problems with the stock ROM. I'm going to continue to test on this and hack around on it to see if I can hunt this down, but my concern is that the very things that allow me to troubleshoot are the same things that keep the device from reproducing the error.
You can subscribe to this thread if you care to continue watching the progress, or if you have any similar experiences or potential solutions, but this is one of those issues that if I don't find the root cause, it's going to drive me bat-s%#$-f&@!#%-crazy. I'm aware that even if I get to the root cause I will likely never see a fix for the problem being that this device is so old, but this is caught in my teeth now, and I'm going to have a hard time letting it go.
As always thank you all for your assistance and participation.
chipsharpdotcom said:
So none of the suggestions here (unfortunately) provided me any different results. That said, I have discovered a couple of different variables that may play a part in this.
1.) This issue only seems to come up when I have the device plugged into power only, not when I have it plugged into a computer.
2.) I think this may be related to trying to sleep while still maintaining the clock application. It seems that when I see this most often, it is when I am plugged into the wall, and I have an alarm set. I was able to be plugged into the wall overnight last week and have no problems without the alarm set, but when I set the alarm, I had the sleep-lock issue (and moreover as you would expect, my alarm did not sound).
Again, I have none of these problems with the stock ROM. I'm going to continue to test on this and hack around on it to see if I can hunt this down, but my concern is that the very things that allow me to troubleshoot are the same things that keep the device from reproducing the error.
You can subscribe to this thread if you care to continue watching the progress, or if you have any similar experiences or potential solutions, but this is one of those issues that if I don't find the root cause, it's going to drive me bat-s%#$-f&@!#%-crazy. I'm aware that even if I get to the root cause I will likely never see a fix for the problem being that this device is so old, but this is caught in my teeth now, and I'm going to have a hard time letting it go.
As always thank you all for your assistance and participation.
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Have you tried it with a different clock app? I mean, if I understand this correctly, it seems to be narrowed down to your current clock apk, which is different than the stock GB one. So I would suggest freezing (or unistalling) your current one with Tibu and trying a different one.
That's actually my next step.
I'm not sure it's accurate to say that I have it narrowed down to the clock app, I simply noted that I reproduced the issue on wall power and with the alarm set. That could all be coincidence. I need to try to reproduce those scenarios more reliably and in a more controlled method.
Do you know of an app I could install that would cause my battery to discharge fairly quickly? It would speed up my troubleshooting.
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That's actually my next step.
I'm not sure it's accurate to say that I have it narrowed down to the clock app, I simply noted that I reproduced the issue on wall power and with the alarm set. That could all be coincidence. I need to try to reproduce those scenarios more reliably and in a more controlled method.
Do you know of an app I could install that would cause my battery to discharge fairly quickly? It would speed up my troubleshooting.
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Haha first time I ever get that question but leaving your camera on should do the job (or video playing)
Good morning (or evening according to timezones)
I have recently purchased a new Note8. Even though the performance is mostly great, I sometimes get lag/stutters and the battery is not that great ( I can get about 3h SOT), but if I don't have my charger with me, there's no chance to get home with the phone still on.
My question is if it is still worth it to root the phone and put a custom Rom on it. I have looked through the various custom rom threads and I am tempted to flash one.
However, my main concern is the banking applications (saw that some don't work anymore after rooting).
At the moment I am on the latest official rom (with the october security patch). I mention that I have no warranty (phone bought from other country), so that shouldn't be an issue.
Any thought please? I have been missing from the android scene for a long time, went IOS there for a while, so I am not sure how to proceed.
Thank you in advance to anyone kind enough to read all this
Bogdan
My Note 8 is the first Samsung phone I haven't rooted as I didn't feel the need to! It's quick and my battery lasts all day (I do have it on medium power saving) and have no problems at all. The Device Maintenance seems to very efficiently clean things up for me when it does get a bit sluggish and I do a restart about every couple of days! I'm very satisfied with my SM-9500 256 GB dual SIM from China! I charge wirelessly every night and use my phone as my bedside clock ...
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My Note 8 is the first Samsung phone I haven't rooted as I didn't feel the need to! It's quick and my battery lasts all day (I do have it on medium power saving) and have no problems at all. The Device Maintenance seems to very efficiently clean things up for me when it does get a bit sluggish and I do a restart about every couple of days! I'm very satisfied with my SM-9500 256 GB dual SIM from China! I charge wirelessly every night and use my phone as my bedside clock ...
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Thank you for your reply. I also use the device maintenance and reboot it occasionally, but battery life seems to he a hit and miss for me. I do keep the phone at max resolution and with a lot of sync on, but what would be the point of having a powerful device if we don't use it
I am also a bit surprised as to the low number of custom roms available. Not complaining or anything, but looking back to my old note 2 experience, there was far more enthusiasm at that time. Though android did get better since then
No benifit... after rooting you can havw viper sound modes (most imp) if you are music lover ..i haven't found anything interesting after rooting. I use stock room with no app removed and only viper4 android install. So there no point of rooting
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No benifit... after rooting you can havw viper sound modes (most imp) if you are music lover ..i haven't found anything interesting after rooting. I use stock room with no app removed and only viper4 android install. So there no point of rooting
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Thank you. I'll probably leave the OS alone for now
usually i always end up not rooting for the first 4-6 months due to warranty stuff.
But the moment i rooted, i've gained at least a 20-25% increase in battery life with the usual control one can have.
If it's for cosmetics, dont need root anymore for that. not much on exposed, things like Good Lock make it stay away from root edits.
I personally root for a few apps that i use, which some of them have better features when on root. and also for debloating.
Unless you are a developer or a tech hobbyist, I don't see the point in rooting current android devices as they work perfectly fine straight out the box.
Well, when rooting you gain total control, and can run some nice and useful apps that require root, I like viper4A, but as you pointed out, some apps do not run on rooted devices, banking and streaming apps among others, and of course, there is the one very important component that you loose for ever, secure folder
I have to ask this. I needed a new phone a month ago, and I chose to wait for this one instead of getting a Note 9, and now I still don't have a usable phone and have less than 20 days to return this one. When I did my research about my next phone I was told that Sony phones are developer-friendly and tend to have a clean Android experience, on top of that, this phone has a 3.5mm jack with a great DAC. Now I come to find out that not only does this phone come with bloatware/spyware, even though you can root it, in Android 10, OEMs have the system locked down as read-only, and while Magik can gimmick /system to remove apps, there is no way to delete apps installed in /oem.
Placing apps in a directory that is impossible to change is inexcusable, especially when they are:
1) A game no one wanted which will be irrelevant in 6 months
2) A FREE TRIAL APP
3) A social media application not everyone uses
It isn't by mistake that Sony did this, and it tells me that the pittance they get from Activision, Jay Z, and Microsoft matters more to them than I do as a customer. Some will say that it is possible to simply de-activate the apps, at least unlike Facebook, there are no background services still running and collecting your data, but I say that is irrelevant. I own my phone; I should be able to control what's on it.
I was still running Android 8 on my One Plus 3T that recently died, so I'm not familiar with how Android works today. We went from simple to hard, to harder. There is A/B, no more stock recovery, and apparently fastboot is dead and is replaced by a blank bootloader flash mode that only lets you know you are in it with a tiny blue LED? I don't know how viable TRWP and Linage are on a phone like this, which is why I am asking. There is only one thing I know for sure right now: I don't have much time to wait for custom ROMs built from the ground up to develop and mature.
You can disable verity and delete them. However, even if you could remove them, they'll just keep coming back with updates. Just disable them and move on with life.
LineageOS is pointless because you're going to lose the Sony camera. Why spend $1,200 if you're going to do that? At that point, just get a Pixel 4a for $350.
Some will say that it is possible to simply de-activate the apps, at least unlike Facebook, there are no background services still running and collecting your data, but I say that is irrelevant. I own my phone; I should be able to control what's on it.
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You totally can. Again, this is about dm-verity, which most custom roms disable and spoof to appear enabled. However, if you're gonna do this on the official rom, it'll be your job to pretty much delete every single piece of bloatware every time you update your phone. It's much easier to simply disable the packages because the disable setting is retained through updates.
There is A/B, no more stock recovery
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Welcome to pretty much every single device since Pixel 3. This is a Google thing, and has nothing to do with Sony.
apparently fastboot is dead and is replaced by a blank bootloader flash mode that only lets you know you are in it with a tiny blue LED?
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Okay, I'll give you this one. Sony did a piss-poor job here. It took me several hours to figure out that:
Vol. Up + Insert USB cable = blue led = fast boot, for which you need to manually install the Google fastboot driver.
Vol. Down + Insert USB cable = green led = download mode, for NewFlasher flashing.
The only indicator is the blue/green LED, which indicates the various modes.
For future reference, I flashed the RU region firmware and it only came with 1 bloatware: Yandex. Best thing about it is, you can uninstall Yandex. So basically I have the 1 II without bloatware! (Except Facebook, but I use it anyway)
YandereSan said:
You can disable verify and delete them. However, even if you could remove them, they'll just keep coming back with updates. Just disable them and move on with life.
LineageOS is pointless because you're going to lose the Sony camera. Why spend $1,200 if you're going to do that? At that point, just get a Pixel 4a for $350.
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First of, thanks for being cool with your response
Second, I bought this phone for a few reasons, and the camera isn't one of them. For any given phone I want:
1) For it to be unlockable so I can install whatever recovery/kernel/OS I want on it. There aren't many phones like that anymore, at least not in the US.
2) Hardware that will last me at least four years.
3) A 3.5mm headphone Jack with a good DAC.
4) A good, large, color-accurate display.
5) Fingerprint reader.
5) Expendable storage (or a LOT of onboard storage and OTG as a compromise).
I have been using the menu button on the left and back button on the right for eight years now, and I can't fix that on this phone
You totally can. Again, this is about dm-verity, which most custom roms disable and spoof to appear enabled. However, if you're gonna do this on the official rom, it'll be your job to pretty much delete every single piece of bloatware every time you update your phone. It's much easier to simply disable the packages because the disable setting is retained through updates.
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Honestly, the only updates I care about are security updates. If we get lineage or some other mature ROM that can do most of what I want, I'll ditch stock., I only need stock for now. If I do end up updating stock and getting those apps back, I don't mind spending another 5 minutes removing them after the update. I don't like disabled apps for three reasons:
1) If it doesn't disable background services. If you just disable Facebook, Facebook's other services will still keep tracking you and selling your personal information.
2) They still appear in the app menus and stuff, which I hate. It pisses me off seeing COD and a TRIAL for something I'll never, ever, use.
3) I am 99.9% some vulnerability can't exploit them, but I can be 100% sure if they aren't there.
As for why this is all the way it is, I did learn after the fact that it is mostly Google's BS and not Sony. Still, it sucks. I hope I can maybe flash DM variety and disable it on stock.
If I can disable DM variety I'm keeping the phone. If I can't and it doesn't seem like we'll get TWRP and Lineage then I guess I'm getting an Exynos Note 9. I really don't want to though, but those OEM apps WILL haunt me every time I use my phone, touch my phone, think about my phone, or am otherwise reminded I own this phone. Maybe I'm crazy, but that's irrelevant, because that's how it is.
I tried to flash dm variety and disable verification, etc, and it didn't unlock the system, so until TRWP comes to Android 10, it looks like stock in the US is out.
iArvee said:
For future reference, I flashed the RU region firmware and it only came with 1 bloatware: Yandex. Best thing about it is, you can uninstall Yandex. So basically I have the 1 II without bloatware! (Except Facebook, but I use it anyway)
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You are a god. I looked at the Russian firmware and it doesn't look like it's been dirtied by crazy Putin. You can systemlessy remove all the apps you don't want. I got Magisk and Xposed working on it. I also have 4G on t-mobile, and it lists 5GNR as an option, which the US version did not. To note, I do not have VoLTE or Wifi Calling (not that I care).
I'm going to try and flash the HK dual sim variant just to see if I can unlock the mythical sex sim slot, and also if also fits the bill. I realized that to test dual sim you need a dual sim tray. There is no way to get the Q51 tray to work for this. It doesn't seem that people are selling replacement parts for this phone yet, so right now I can't buy a Q2 tray to test it. I'll circle back around to this in a few months when it becomes time to flip the phone for a Q2, just to see if maybe I don't have to do that.
Thanks everyone for the replies. We could maybe use this as a general TRWP/LineageOS update thread, though I suspect someone will make a new thread as those pass certain milestones.
Hi, after using the Mi 10 Ultra now for some weeks I will share some thoughts.
In short: The hardware (everything from charging to the cameras are simply Amazing) - however, I would not encourage anyone to use it as their "real" phone or phone used for work - at least not if things does not get better with firmware updates.
There are simply to many bugs or limitations that makes it impossible for me to be productive with the phone.
A few examples:
* Google assistant keeps be replaced by Xiaomis own assistant so I have to set it back to my preference several times a day. Not a dealbreaker but very annoying.
* Could not choose my own choice of launcher (Nova) but here I'm a bit grumpy because this turned out to be quite easily solvable (in case it does not give the same annoying behaviour as the assistant-thing)
* Does seem impossible to get RELIABLE notifications to the computer from SMS, Whatsapp etc, no matter what I do with both app specific settings (lik turn of battery optimizations, giving different permissions to the app, allouing autostart etc) AND putting general settings for restriction of mobil OFF, the phone keeps stopping data when display is off
* I have missed an enormeus amount of meetings because somehow the phone does not work with teams and intunes in a good way so all of a sudden I can not log on to intunes or onenote and has to spend 20 minutes on deletion of cach and app data, restarting the phon, sync of principples etc and then it works a few hours again. Completely useless for work. Also here I have gone trough and given permissions for almost everything to see if it helps (and it does not help). To be looked out of online-meetings several times a day because messing with the phone simply just does not work.
* Bluetooth is a trial and error thing when connectring different speakers and handsfrees, tok 3 days until I all of a sudden could pair my WF-1000XM3 with the phone for example. This was however a "one off" and now it works so I can live with that.
The things mentiones above that is connected to work is absolutely no problem on any other phones or tablets I have tried it on (Sony, Samsung, Huawei).
So for now I will put my SIM back in my old phone and use the Mi 10 Ultra as private phone and mainly like a good camera and videoeditor.
I realise it might (with the headline I posted) be posted in the wrong part of the forum.
I guess what I really was hoping for is some input to solutions of the problems I mention because I really WANT to be able to use the phone as my phone.
Install the .EU rom. It solved most of these issues for me:
+ Mi assistent is not in the rom, so Google's assistant will then stick. Overall, all google apps and services work way better when neatly made part of the eco system prior to setup.
+ notifications work out-of-the-box on this rom just about flawlessly. Had problems getting them immediately and on the lockscreen with the original Chinese rom, they work perfect with the EU rom.
+ Teams works fine here, as does contact sync, calander sync, location history etc.
Had no issues with bluetooth in either rom version. Don't use custom launchers, so can't comment on that.
Love this phone!
There's a lot of issues there. Some fixable, but overall it you want a solution... Flash the Xiaomi.eu rom..
Basically I got this phone myself realising it would be a project. Spending around 1k, on a foreign device not guaranteed to work in my country. I knew going in I would almost certainly want to change it from stock. I only mention now because it's possible to do something about it. It's silly to live with so many tiny software problems with such a majestic piece of hardware. To make your phone your daily go-to I think this phone requires a bit of extra work. I consider it a small tax for having the best phone there is.
Nice headphones btw I have the same ones. I cannot cope without them working
One more vote for xiaomi.eu ROM. It is basically the go-to ROM when purchasing a Xiaomi device.
A lot of what OP mentioned is user error combined with the software being a little odd out of the box (but totally fixable). I'm using Lawnchair no problem. Use miui hidden settings to change it.
The notification issue is annoying but all you have to do is open the app settings and mess with the notification settings a little bit. Turn on all the options and set priority to high, you'll never have a problem again.
Google assistant was on my phone and I didn't even install it... In fact I had to go out of the way to tell it to f off.
My bluetooth has worked absolutely fine zero issues. Excellent range and low battery drain.
I love this phone, it can certainly improve in some ways through software updates but the way it is I'm happy with my purchase, even spending $950 for it. Which is the most I've ever spent on a phone by a mile.
Someone's definitely going to reply to me saying "it should just work out of the box". Maybe, but if you want something that "just works" and don't value the extra features buy an iPhone.
I agree.
I don't have any problems at all.
No ads.
Google assistant works perfect, mi assistant I removed through adb
No bluetooth issues aside from the metà data not showing on my car radio.
Pretty happy here.
The thing that could be better would be some notifications icons in the always on display
Can you point me to a guide to remove miui assistant?
My issues are the right swipe notification I would like to be google feed not Chinese.
Swipe up from bottom, same thing, Chinese
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A lot of what OP mentioned is user error combined with the software being a little odd out of the box (but totally fixable). I'm using Lawnchair no problem. Use miui hidden settings to change it.
The notification issue is annoying but all you have to do is open the app settings and mess with the notification settings a little bit. Turn on all the options and set priority to high, you'll never have a problem again.
Google assistant was on my phone and I didn't even install it... In fact I had to go out of the way to tell it to f off.
My bluetooth has worked absolutely fine zero issues. Excellent range and low battery drain.
I love this phone, it can certainly improve in some ways through software updates but the way it is I'm happy with my purchase, even spending $950 for it. Which is the most I've ever spent on a phone by a mile.
Someone's definitely going to reply to me saying "it should just work out of the box". Maybe, but if you want something that "just works" and don't value the extra features buy an iPhone.
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Hi, I have actually put all settings to "high", "allowed" or "off" (when it comes to powersaving), but getting notifications or not having apps closed down is still a lottery (although the changes has made the situation a bit better it has not solved the problem).
Has anyone of you that DO NOT have problems tried to use the phone for work with apps like "intunes" and "teams" (because this is the biggest problem to have to reinstall apps like teams, it feels like it must have been to go to war with a "mouth charger" back in the days. Parts of theese problems I have had with Huawei phones also but there it just took some tweaking to get rid of the problems).
AerationCheese said:
Someone's definitely going to reply to me saying "it should just work out of the box". Maybe, but if you want something that "just works" and don't value the extra features buy an iPhone.
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This phone is exclusive to the Chinese market and not built with the west in mind at all.
Anyone saying it should just walk out the box, well, unless they're living in China they're being naive and wrong. This is not a device for where we are, it is not supposed to be.
So in that mind I come back to xiaome.eu rom - why would one not take a step to make the phone work better than stock?
tusenkonstnar said:
Hi, I have actually put all settings to "high", "allowed" or "off" (when it comes to powersaving), but getting notifications or not having apps closed down is still a lottery (although the changes has made the situation a bit better it has not solved the problem).
Has anyone of you that DO NOT have problems tried to use the phone for work with apps like "intunes" and "teams" (because this is the biggest problem to have to reinstall apps like teams, it feels like it must have been to go to war with a "mouth charger" back in the days. Parts of theese problems I have had with Huawei phones also but there it just took some tweaking to get rid of the problems).
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In tune works fine with the EU ROM
If I want to flash the eu rom, can I back up my apps so I don't have to re enter all my log ins ?
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Sathelp said:
In tune works fine with the EU ROM
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Thanks, then I have to go with the EU rom, This thing of spending an hour a day missing meetings and having to reinstall apps, reapprove permissions etc to be able to log in just does not fly.
Guess step one for me then is to unlock the phone.
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If I want to flash the eu rom, can I back up my apps so I don't have to re enter all my log ins ?
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I used the xiaomi cloud for this and was delighted
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tusenkonstnar said:
Thanks, then I have to go with the EU rom, This thing of spending an hour a day missing meetings and having to reinstall apps, reapprove permissions etc to be able to log in just does not fly.
Guess step one for me then is to unlock the phone.
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Absolutely. Unlocking it will threaten to wipe your phone so go through with it as if you're gonna do it.
Because it needs to show you the countdown and then it's a week til you can do anything even if you wanted to
Appelsap said:
Install the .EU rom. It solved most of these issues for me:
+ Mi assistent is not in the rom, so Google's assistant will then stick. Overall, all google apps and services work way better when neatly made part of the eco system prior to setup.
+ notifications work out-of-the-box on this rom just about flawlessly. Had problems getting them immediately and on the lockscreen with the original Chinese rom, they work perfect with the EU rom.
+ Teams works fine here, as does contact sync, calander sync, location history etc.
Had no issues with bluetooth in either rom version. Don't use custom launchers, so can't comment on that.
Love this phone!
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how easy is it to get a bootloader unlock these days?
gb155 said:
how easy is it to get a bootloader unlock these days?
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Read the comments in this thread leading up to yours. It's explained multiple times.
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how easy is it to get a bootloader unlock these days?
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Very.
Hi. I was wondering how did you guys get the google pay to work? When I try to pay, miui card readee is trying to launch. And the assistant, "hey google" doesn't seem to work for me. I am waiting to unlock the bootloader, but made the phone to my liking 80%. Great device but needs some tweaking.
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A lot of what OP mentioned is user error combined with the software being a little odd out of the box (but totally fixable). I'm using Lawnchair no problem. Use miui hidden settings to change it.
The notification issue is annoying but all you have to do is open the app settings and mess with the notification settings a little bit. Turn on all the options and set priority to high, you'll never have a problem again.
Google assistant was on my phone and I didn't even install it... In fact I had to go out of the way to tell it to f off.
My bluetooth has worked absolutely fine zero issues. Excellent range and low battery drain.
I love this phone, it can certainly improve in some ways through software updates but the way it is I'm happy with my purchase, even spending $950 for it. Which is the most I've ever spent on a phone by a mile.
Someone's definitely going to reply to me saying "it should just work out of the box". Maybe, but if you want something that "just works" and don't value the extra features buy an iPhone.
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Do you have google feed working with lawnchair?
Woke up in he morning, launcher went back to the system one, all 5he settings (widgets and folders) from lawnchair are gone. Cannot wait to get the xiaomi.eu firmware, because chinese is really bad.
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Woke up in he morning, launcher went back to the system one, all 5he settings (widgets and folders) from lawnchair are gone. Cannot wait to get the xiaomi.eu firmware, because chinese is really bad.
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I had this with Nova,I think I ended up.. wait for it.. setting every permission for Nova I could find
The EU ROM uses the same permission style but the reigns are off. I'm glad you know you need to move to that ROM!
Trust me, you don't get these problems with the EU ROM. It's Xiaomi security being a bit too zealous.
They don't officially let you use another launcher. Obviously you get around it by setting it in the launcher you want itself.. but yeah the EU ROM doesn't do this.
Hello, I'm a newbie. I've browsed the ROMs topic but since I don't understand nothing I was lost. I would like to put stock android on my Galaxy s10, will someone please link to me a guide + stock android ROM? (If what I said made any sense) trying to flee programmed obsolescence. Thank you!
I'm confused - your title says you want to root, but then your post says you want stock. And then you say you're trying to "flee programmed obsolescence:". Can you be more specific about what you are trying to do?
For stock ROM, you can easily use ODIN to do that. This has nothing to do with rooting.
Rooting can be done on some devices, not others. We'd need to know which exact model you have (eg my S10+ is an SM-G975U1)...
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I meant I wanted to use pure Android, no UI on top of it. I want to root because I've heard it can improve battery life and camera quality. I noticed my phone's screen wakes up randomly no notifications since I bought it, I'm suspicious this is an artifact to decrease the life span of the device. Also there is a carrier app I can't delete which sends notifications that wake up my phone and don't turn the screen off after, no matter my settings, this app I can't delete nor customize notification settings on. This also degrades battery life a lot as it not only wakes up the screen, but puts the whole phone to function and can be there woken for hours if I don't see it, it's really annoying. So I'd like to get rid of that and run pure Android. Galaxy S10 SM-G973F. Thank you for reaching.
Since you're on Exynos, I am not directly familiar with the process (I am in the USA and have a Snapdragon phone, which means we can't root as easily).
This thread seem to have info, and the second post seems quite detailed and clear: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-and-get-it-right-tipps-tricks.4015813/
If you have further questions about the process, you may want to ask on that thread.