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Hi I have a note 4 (marshmallow 6.0.1).
If I tripped knox by either rooting or flashing a custom rom, and then if I decided to revert back say i unrooted and re-flashed the stock rom.
Assuming everything is back normal except that
now you have "knox warrnety void 0*1"
Will I still be able to:
-Enable Knox active protection from Samsung's "smart manager" app.
-Use "Samsung my knox" app
-Use Samsung pay or android pay
-Do OTA updates
Or is having a "stock non-rooted rom" still not enough and you won't be able to do all of the above as long as you have already tripped knox?
(Also apparently you cannot enable it while "rooted" even if you have managed to root it without tripping Knox).
Thanks in advance :good:
I did root my phone 2h after buying it and making sure everything works all right. Never regretted it. This info just for start if you have any doubts.
If you trip Knox and install sock Rom you will have force-close notifications from Knox app (at least I had). Just run debloating script through recovery and you will be fine.
Not sure about Ota updates, I did Kies update (to 6.0.1) and it worked. Never used my phone with Samsung or Android pay, wait for somebody else to reply.
xaforib said:
I did root my phone 2h after buying it and making sure everything works all right. Never regretted it. This info just for start if you have any doubts.
If you trip Knox and install sock Rom you will have force-close notifications from Knox app (at least I had). Just run debloating script through recovery and you will be fine.
Not sure about Ota updates, I did Kies update (to 6.0.1) and it worked. Never used my phone with Samsung or Android pay, wait for somebody else to reply.
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Alright thanks for your helpful reply, honestly I don't really care about knox app and Samsung pay if they are the only things affected
The battery life that i am getting is just 7-8 hrs which i think is really really bad on the Note 5, the phone is just a month old.
Android OS is consuming the most of the battery please help me with the fix
Attached is the screenshot of the battery stats.
Yeah, the battery life of this device kind of sucks without any modifications. Don't worry, I was equally disappointed too - it's not just your device.
You should proceed to root your device if you are seriously wanting to do something about battery.
Once you're rooted, you may:
-Install ForceDoze, to force it to not wakeup anywhere near as much when the device is not being used.
-Install Greenify, to automagically freeze all unneeded apps (donate for system). This will speed up your phone, free memory and save battery.
-You can install and try L-Speed, which should help your battery out a lot when using an unoptimised Samsung firmware.
-And finally installing Xposed, which may require a little research. This will let you enable all of the modules provided by the above programs to give you deeper system integration. Ultimately saving you battery. Set Greenifies working mode from root to xposed in settings.
I can't help you out with a custom note 7 based ROM as they all seem to be broken in some way at this stage.
Turbine1991 said:
Yeah, the battery life of this device kind of sucks without any modifications. Don't worry, I was equally disappointed too - it's not just your device.
You should proceed to root your device if you are seriously wanting to do something about battery.
Once you're rooted, you may:
-Install ForceDoze, to force it to not wakeup anywhere near as much when the device is not being used.
-Install Greenify, to automagically freeze all unneeded apps (donate for system). This will speed up your phone, free memory and save battery.
-You can install and try L-Speed, which should help your battery out a lot when using an unoptimised Samsung firmware.
-And finally installing Xposed, which may require a little research. This will let you enable all of the modules provided by the above programs to give you deeper system integration. Ultimately saving you battery. Set Greenifies working mode from root to xposed in settings.
I can't help you out with a custom note 7 based ROM as they all seem to be broken in some way at this stage.
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Thanks for your help BTW i will not be installing Xposed, but i will suerly do the L-speed, Greenify and ForceDoze. Any thing else that i should do to recover from this battery issue and be on stock as far as possible ?
You can use Agressive Doze in Greenify without root. It will help putting the phone in Doze mode much quicker. It looks like something is keeping the phone awake pretty much all the time.
jadebeer said:
You can use Agressive Doze in Greenify without root. It will help putting the phone in Doze mode much quicker. It looks like something is keeping the phone awake pretty much all the time.
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this is after rooting and using all apps •
somyatiwari59 said:
this is after rooting and using all apps â?¢
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Hi, if you have Knox tripped (0x1) then don't bother with software solutions... you need custom kernel either Sickness either SkyHigh. I have spend 2 months in research. First install latest TWRP and them install the new kernel. After that you will lose just 6% overnight instead of 50%.
angelfacekiller said:
Hi, if you have Knox tripped (0x1) then don't bother with software solutions... you need custom kernel either Sickness either SkyHigh. I have spend 2 months in research. First install latest TWRP and them install the new kernel. After that you will lose just 6% overnight instead of 50%.
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Thanks bro for suggesting, can you leave link to the kernels ?, and after using custom kernels should i uninstall these Root Apps ? Or Unroot the device ?
Pls tell me how to root.I am a newbie at this.
Turbine1991 said:
You should proceed to root your device if you are seriously wanting to do something about battery.
Once you're rooted, you may:
-Install ForceDoze, to force it to not wakeup anywhere near as much when the device is not being used.
-Install Greenify, to automagically freeze all unneeded apps (donate for system). This will speed up your phone, free memory and save battery.
-You can install and try L-Speed, which should help your battery out a lot when using an unoptimised Samsung firmware.
-And finally installing Xposed, which may require a little research. This will let you enable all of the modules provided by the above programs to give you deeper system integration. Ultimately saving you battery. Set Greenifies working mode from root to xposed in settings.
I can't help you out with a custom note 7 based ROM as they all seem to be broken in some way at this stage.
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pls tell me how to root the note 5.
t JaZzz said:
pls tell me how to root the note 5.
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somyatiwari59 said:
Thanks bro for suggesting, can you leave link to the kernels ?, and after using custom kernels should i uninstall these Root Apps ? Or Unroot the device ?
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First things first. We are talking about Marshmallow right???
Rooting is different than installing a custom kernel. Trust me, most of the people don't care about root but only to fix their phone.
IF you have a tripped knox don't go and install, or even worst buy, any applications promising to make battery last longer or 50% overnight to go down to 6%. They cannot...
I will tell you my use case and you will figure out what you want.
I have a Note 5 N9208 with tripped knox. Battery drains horribly losing 8-10% per hour. This is because of tripped knox and all software solutions (Greenify, Naptime, ForceDoze etc) are useless since you CANNOT put the processors to 0 frequency and the only way to solve it is with a customer kernel.
For my model I installed The Sickness kernel. For N920C Dr. Ketan has a kernel which might be good for other models too.
Steps:
Install TWRP from here . Select your model and install it with Odin in AP section.
Install kernel from Sickness for N9208 or arter97 for other models or DR. Ketan's kernel for N920C . It will be a .zip file containing a boot.img file somewhere. Copy the .zip file to a local folder on the mobile and after you boot into TWRP recovery select install and then flash the file.
After installation you are fixed BUT you MIGHT lose the functionality of keeping the WiFi passwords after reboot. THIS is the part where you need to be root.
If the kernel didn't installed SuperSU then install with TWRP SuperSU from here (Some kernels they don't inject SuperSU or installation is damaged). Install BuildProp editor from Google Play , give root permissions and search for 'storage'. Make parameter ro.secure.storage = false and save then reboot.
Unroot from superSU menu to regain access to banking applications. You might need to clear their cache and data if they have already identified the device as rooted.
Don't be afraid as the steps do not need to be executed all together and at once.
Flash TWRP and gain some familiarity with it. It's a nice recovery environment which you enter the same way like the official one. Check also what is the impact in your phone from changing the recovery.
Then copy all the files in you phone and install BuildProp too so you will have it ready. Also It would be nice to BUY and install Package Disabler pro. it is cheap and it will help you to get rid of the annoying messages regarding Unauthorized software etc.
After all these, you can discuss with many wise guys regarding Greenify and Forsedoze and blah blah on how to make your battery EVEN better.
angelfacekiller said:
First thing first. We are talking about Marshmallow right???
Rooting is different than installing a custom kernel. Trust me, most of the people don't care about root but only to fix their phone.
I will tell you my use case and you will figure out what you want.
I have a Note 5 N9208 with tripped knox. Battery drains horribly losing 8-10% per hour. This is because of tripped knox and all software solutions (Greenify, Naptime, ForceDoze etc) are useless since you CANNOT put the processors to 0 frequency and the only way to solve it is with a customer kernel.
For my model I installed The Sickness kernel. For N920C Dr. Ketan has a kernel which might be good for other models too.
Steps:
Install TWRP from here . Select your model and install it with Odin in AP section.
Install kernel from Sickness for N9208 or arter97 for other models or DR. Ketan's kernel for N920C . It will be a .zip file containing a boot.img file somewhere. Copy the .zip file to a local folder on the mobile and after you boot into TWRP recovery select install and then flash the file.
After installation you are fixed BUT you MIGHT lose the functionality of keeping the WiFi passwords after reboot. THIS is the part where you need to be root.
If the kernel didn't installed SuperSU then install with TWRP SuperSU from here (Some kernels they don't inject SuperSU or installation is damaged). Install BuildProp editor from Google Play , give root permissions and search for 'storage'. Make parameter ro.secure.storage = false and save then reboot.
Unroot from superSU menu to regain access to banking applications. You might need to clear their cache and data if they have already identified the device as rooted.
Don't be afraid as the steps do not need to be executed all together and at once.
Flash TWRP and gain some familiarity with it. It's a nice recovery environment which you enter the same way like the official one. Check also what is the impact in your phone from changing the recovery.
Then copy all the files in you phone and install BuildProp too so you will have it ready. Also It would be nice to BUY and install Package Disabler pro. it is cheap and it will help you to get rid of the annoying messages regarding Unauthorized software etc.
After all these, you can discuss with many wise guys regarding Greenify and Forsedoze and blah blah on how to make your battery EVEN better.
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Thanks bro for helpming me out, i installed Arter Kernel and lets see how does it performs, BTW what else can we do to improve battery life i have uninstalled all root apications that i was using
somyatiwari59 said:
Thanks bro for helpming me out, i installed Arter Kernel and lets see how does it performs, BTW what else can we do to improve battery life i have uninstalled all root apications that i was using
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There is no magic trick bro. Our phones have to light up 5.7 inches with high definition with 2 sim cards and 4G data coming and going all the time ...
ForceDoze works without root but needs to execute a commandline through ADB. To be honest I don't care since Doze fixed and I cannot measure performance.
From engineering point of view, I have to say that all these applications are nice when you don't use your phone.
If you talk too much or browse too much they are USELESS. If you saw my printscreen, I had a very good overnight behavior but during day I drained the phone since I was talking all day and I was not leaving the phone to rest...
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There is no magic trick bro. Our phones have to light up 5.7 inches with high definition with 2 sim cards and 4G data coming and going all the time ...
ForceDoze works without root but needs to execute a commandline through ADB. To be honest I don't care since Doze fixed and I cannot measure performance.
From engineering point of view, I have to say that all these applications are nice when you don't use your phone.
If you talk too much or browse too much they are USELESS. If you saw my printscreen, I had a very good overnight behavior but during day I drained the phone since I was talking all day and I was not leaving the phone to rest...
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My phone's standby time is affected thats my problem i drain 100% battery in one go i am ok with it, but the problem is with that standby drain and hence i posted here !!
somyatiwari59 said:
My phone's standby time is affected thats my problem i drain 100% battery in one go i am ok with it, but the problem is with that standby drain and hence i posted here !!
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With ForceDoze you will be ok. It has complete instructions on how to install it without root. Try to do it after unrooting in order to show you the workaround method. However. It is not doing anything without the Doze patch that kernels are installing.
Thank you but....
angelfacekiller said:
First things first. We are talking about Marshmallow right???
Rooting is different than installing a custom kernel. Trust me, most of the people don't care about root but only to fix their phone.
IF you have a tripped knox don't go and install, or even worst buy, any applications promising to make battery last longer or 50% overnight to go down to 6%. They cannot...
I will tell you my use case and you will figure out what you want.
I have a Note 5 N9208 with tripped knox. Battery drains horribly losing 8-10% per hour. This is because of tripped knox and all software solutions (Greenify, Naptime, ForceDoze etc) are useless since you CANNOT put the processors to 0 frequency and the only way to solve it is with a customer kernel.
For my model I installed The Sickness kernel. For N920C Dr. Ketan has a kernel which might be good for other models too.
Steps:
Install TWRP from here . Select your model and install it with Odin in AP section.
Install kernel from Sickness for N9208 or arter97 for other models or DR. Ketan's kernel for N920C . It will be a .zip file containing a boot.img file somewhere. Copy the .zip file to a local folder on the mobile and after you boot into TWRP recovery select install and then flash the file.
After installation you are fixed BUT you MIGHT lose the functionality of keeping the WiFi passwords after reboot. THIS is the part where you need to be root.
If the kernel didn't installed SuperSU then install with TWRP SuperSU from here (Some kernels they don't inject SuperSU or installation is damaged). Install BuildProp editor from Google Play , give root permissions and search for 'storage'. Make parameter ro.secure.storage = false and save then reboot.
Unroot from superSU menu to regain access to banking applications. You might need to clear their cache and data if they have already identified the device as rooted.
Don't be afraid as the steps do not need to be executed all together and at once.
Flash TWRP and gain some familiarity with it. It's a nice recovery environment which you enter the same way like the official one. Check also what is the impact in your phone from changing the recovery.
Then copy all the files in you phone and install BuildProp too so you will have it ready. Also It would be nice to BUY and install Package Disabler pro. it is cheap and it will help you to get rid of the annoying messages regarding Unauthorized software etc.
After all these, you can discuss with many wise guys regarding Greenify and Forsedoze and blah blah on how to make your battery EVEN better.
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First of all.Thank you sir but the problem is that my device is N920G.
t JaZzz said:
First of all.Thank you sir but the problem is that my device is N920G.
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Then you can go to arter97 in section n920cig Also dr ketans should work too
I had a bootloop after flashin Twrp on N920C. Only solution was flashing from Odin the stock firmaware.
In the end, no custom recovery, knox tripped and no battery optimization...
I'd like to retry but I don't want to lose everything another time
alexross said:
I had a bootloop after flashin Twrp on N920C. Only solution was flashing from Odin the stock firmaware.
In the end, no custom recovery, knox tripped and no battery optimization...
I'd like to retry but I don't want to lose everything another time
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You flashed twrp from the official site, for your model and it didn't work?
angelfacekiller said:
You flashed twrp from the official site, for your model and it didn't work?
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yes, if I start in custom recovery I have twrp working but when I start the os I've a bootloop. Also I tried wiping cache and system but no luck, bootloop.
Try with stock firmware from smartswitch and then flash twrp. From what you said you are flashing an image not from samsung.
Resolved, i rooted first than I flashed the recovery. No more problems
Hello, i have a Note 5 N920I on android 6.0.1 which i rooted a while ago. after unrooting the device, the battery started draining fast, i have tried to re-flash stock firmware, factory reset and cache wiping but nothing worked. I have read in multiple threads that re-rooting with cf autoroot might fix the problem,that being caused by tripping Knox. anyone with the same issues and tried this solution ?
deadman_676 said:
Hello, i have a Note 5 N920I on android 6.0.1 which i rooted a while ago. after unrooting the device, the battery started draining fast, i have tried to re-flash stock firmware, factory reset and cache wiping but nothing worked. I have read in multiple threads that re-rooting with cf autoroot might fix the problem,that being caused by tripping Knox. anyone with the same issues and tried this solution ?
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1)Once you have rooted your device you will trip knox counter 0×1 which voids warrant and breaks Samsung's security features
2)So even after flashing stock rom and unrooting you will face huge battery drain due to knox tripping and also deep sleep issue which cause battery drain
3)So the solution for this is to root again your device and apply dr.ketan's deep sleep fix..You can refer this in following link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/how-to-root-note-5-t3205073/page15
**This fix is to be applied on Stock rooted 6.0.1 with stock kernel**
I have an unrooted (Knox=0) stock device with horrible battery life. Should I root and use this fix or just wait out for the N update? I am a fan of Sammy pay
DroidHackeR said:
1)Once you have rooted your device you will trip knox counter 0×1 which voids warrant and breaks Samsung's security features
2)So even after flashing stock rom and unrooting you will face huge battery drain due to knox tripping and also deep sleep issue which cause battery drain
3)So the solution for this is to root again your device and apply dr.ketan's deep sleep fix..You can refer this in following link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/how-to-root-note-5-t3205073/page15
**This fix is to be applied on Stock rooted 6.0.1 with stock kernel**
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I have re-rooted with cf autoroot yesterday without applying the fix and everything is back to normal. i checked with Dr Ketan's tool and it said DeepSleep was fixed! thanks !
cartertucker said:
I have an unrooted (Knox=0) stock device with horrible battery life. Should I root and use this fix or just wait out for the N update? I am a fan of Sammy pay
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If i were you i would check for other sources of the problem first before rooting if you want to keep samsung pay. check what's draining the battery most, also try entering safe mode and see if you have the same power drain. Try factory resetting if you had the problem after an update.
Hey Guys,
Long story short, I had my Sprint Note 5 rooted a while ago! due to some apps screwing me over and not allowing to use them due to being rooted I unrooted (via supersu)
Realized ever since I rooted my battery was totally crap and figured after I unroot it would help (it didn't) read about how it trips the Knox and it affects the deep sleep of the phone (thus **** battery life)
I read on here to just load a kernel in order to fix the deep sleep issue. I've rooted and loaded kernels before on other phones (no issues everrrrr).
When I looked up the TWRP version to use and flash via Odin it said successful. Phone restarted and it never came back up again. I downloaded literally all of the TWRP versions they had on their site, flashed all of them via odin and none of them would get me out of the boot loop. I got completely screwed and had to load a stock firmware from that sam site to get my phone working again. Everything was completely lost on my phone. pics that were never backed up
Due to that, I have been totally hesitant to try this again as that was the only way to fix my phone. I am willing to try again but really want to go into this prepared and have it be a smooth process ( I already backed up ALL of my files on my computer) I don't really care for TWRP or Kernels but I just want to fix the stupid deep sleep issue. I read somewhere on here that people having bootloops from twrp on note 5s was due to not being rooted first? I've also seen (as I did this almost 8 months ago) there are new TWRP versions since then, but afraid to even do those.
Is there a solution I can do to just fix the damn deep sleep issue? phone literally last 2-3 hours idle. Willing to donate via paypal to someone to help walk through it. This is a sprint variant note 5
thanks in advance
TWRP for your phone is here :
https://dl.twrp.me/nobleltespr/
When flashing in Odin are you using the AP slot to load twrp?
You can keep the rom stock and root with magisk or go custom. Looks like the sprint page for the note 5 is still relatively active.
Use Smart Switch to restore your phone, even update it to the latest build (DQG2). This will reinstall EVERYTHING you have modded. Maybe a 4 file firmware could be used via Odin. Now download the newest TWRP from the link phuhcue gave you. Install it via Odin. Put the recovery in the AP Slot. To root, you can use Magisk or SuperSU. I use Magisk because it can pass Google's Safety Net, so you can still watch Netflix or use apps like Pokemon GO or Snapchat.
After Odin installs the recovery it will reboot, this is where you need to be very fast and enter recovery mode and install 2 files:
Latest Magisk: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
IMMEDIATELY after installing Magisk this file might be necessary: samsung-antiroot-removal-4.1.zip (I tried not to use it but my phone bootloops) https://build.nethunter.com/samsung-tools/samsung-antiroot-removal/ After installing both .zips you can reboot and voila! you have root + custom recovery.
This is the method I've using since our Sprint phones got the Nougat update. The tutorial can be found here: http://galaxynote5root.com/galaxy-n...galaxy-note-5-on-android-7-0-nougat-w-magisk/
Magisk is the shiznit yo! I'VE NEVER HAD DEEP SLEEP ISSUES, RANDOM REBOOTS OR OTHER FAILURES ON MY SM-N920P ALWAYS RUNNING THE LATEST NOUGAT BUILD. Rooted Marshmallow was buggy and laggy as hell, so I never rooted my phone until Nougat came out. The Sprint model is NOT affected by the tripped KNOX.
Hello everybody
Back to android os after many years using note 8 (exynos)
Have many questions want answers
1-My battery sucks so does flashing a custom kernel will preserve the battery??
2-After flashing a custom firmware can i be back to official rom anytime and continue to recieve official updates anytime as i may need secure folder option which is only found on official roms
3-any recommendation for a rom that is stable or a note 9 port for exynos note 8??
Thanks in advance and sorry for the silly questions
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Custom firmware only after root, which will trip knox and thus the end of secure folder (irreversible)...
Congrats! This dwvice is really good, about your batt, why do you say it is bad? How much SOT it is giving you? Average SOT around here is from 5 to 6 hrs, it depends on how many apps you have, and which ones are those, facebook is famous for beeing a batt hog , there are some threads about this, now about flashing some kernel, I think that would help, but regarding the secure folder, once you root, or flash any custom firmware, you will trip knox, and samsung pay and secure folder will be gone FOREVER, there is no going back, no way to revert the knox 0x1 to original 0x0, so, think about it carefully, if secure folder is really important for you, you can only flash official unmodified firmwares, besides, if you trip knox, SHealth will stop working too, although there is a patch to make it work
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Congrats! This dwvice is really good, about your batt, why do you say it is bad? How much SOT it is giving you? Average SOT around here is from 5 to 6 hrs, it depends on how many apps you have, and which ones are those, facebook is famous for beeing a batt hog , there are some threads about this, now about flashing some kernel, I think that would help, but regarding the secure folder, once you root, or flash any custom firmware, you will trip knox, and samsung pay and secure folder will be gone FOREVER, there is no going back, no way to revert the knox 0x1 to original 0x0, so, think about it carefully, if secure folder is really important for you, you can only flash official unmodified firmwares, besides, if you trip knox, SHealth will stop working too, although there is a patch to make it work
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I can get back to official and get updates but wont get the secure folder back right??
About SOT average is 4 hours although i followed many threads switching off alot of stuff like edge lighting and onscreen display and location service
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You will get OTA when you flash an official firmware, some buddies report that it must be a firmware intended for the country where you use the device, and in some cases a specific firmware for the carrier that issued the sim card installed, but some others get OTA with only the firmware beeing official, I think it is carrier related, you will get OTA, just choose the firmware for your specific conutry and carrier to be sure, and if you tripped. Knox, no, no secure folder and samsung pay
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You will get OTA when you flash an official firmware, some buddies report that it must be a firmware intended for the country where you use the device, and in some cases a specific firmware for the carrier that issued the sim card installed, but some others get OTA with only the firmware beeing official, I think it is carrier related, you will get OTA, just choose the firmware for your specific conutry and carrier to be sure, and if you tripped. Knox, no, no secure folder and samsung pay
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Thank you so much for your reply
Any recommendations for specific root/kernel/recovery/rom??
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I really would not know, I bought my note 8 in october 2017, since then I installed bk disabler pro, to avoid updates,, and I did not have intentions to root, so, I am running stock 7.1.1, for me it was more important to control running services and disabling unwanted apps, I heard rummos back then that samsung was blocking bk disabler with the updates, so I blocked OTA, my device runs very fine this way