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Hey all,
So rather... inconveniently my Dream has died and the replacement that was sent to me is already flashed with the new retard-o firmware.
I have been reading and re-reading everything on the forums and think I understand what I need to do to get root access again, but I want to ensure I am going down the right path.
If I understand correctly I need to create a gold card. Is this right? Is there another way I should go about this? Can someone break down what i need to do now (or point me in the right direction)?
Much appreciated, and yes I do realize all this info is already out there, but these threads are full of pages and pages of people complaining about rogers. While I can understand, finding this exact information is now near impossible because of the flood of off topic posts. I don't my phone to die... again.
Thanks in advance.
you are asking in the wrong section
questions go in the QnA section - and even then, this question has been asked and answered numerous times
funny...i have just found the answer in 3 seconds flat by googling "root rogers dream"
little tip - try it some time
Moved as not Android Development.
garok89 said:
funny...i have just found the answer in 3 seconds flat by googling "root rogers dream"
little tip - try it some time
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First I already made it clear that I was having trouble picking out the information and am looking just for some simple confirmations. I apologize for it being in the wrong spot, but really did you need to spam the thread with two posts just to be a jerk?
If you are going to gripe about my post then perhaps you should follow the rules and not uselessly double post for emphasies. Do as I say not as I do?
And to be clear, yes Ive read the 82 page long how to post, its so convoluted and filled with whining that I am just looking for some clarification. Its called looking for help, I was under the impression that is what this forum was for.
Hey, this is the guide I used to root mine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4280573#post4280573
Don't know if it will work with the retard-o-rom though. I didn't upgrade. Just told them it was done, they asked for the build number and I told the technician "Ohh my phone restarted itself sorry....Just need a moment....What number should I be looking for?" He then told me the number...I waited a few seconds and then said..."yup, that's the one" lol. He said okay and did the network refresh and i have my data back.
Thank you for your response TheDong, unfortunately the latest ROM does not allow for fast booting or flasrec. I am under the impression that I will need to downgrade my phone first, but this is where I am a bit sketchy on the process and if is in fact the right step. Or the path to having another broken phone.
So just to be clear; I have a new rogers HTC Dream with the most recent Rogers ROM. My data is active as I have the latest ROM (forced upon me because its a replacement phone.) I have previously rooted a phone, but that phone was replaced by rogers due to a hardware defect.
This is something that is going to start coming up a lot, I imagine. Rogers does not ship the phone without the latest firmware. I have yet to find something that is clear on the post-force upgrade solution.
Soundwav said:
... but really did you need to spam the thread with two posts just to be a jerk?
If you are going to gripe about my post then perhaps you should follow the rules and not uselessly double post for emphasies ...
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Hi Soundwav,
Double-posting occasionally happens when the forum is slow to respond and a member clicks Submit Reply a second time assuming that the first submit did not register the first time around.
Regards,
Soundwav said:
First I already made it clear that I was having trouble picking out the information and am looking just for some simple confirmations. I apologize for it being in the wrong spot, but really did you need to spam the thread with two posts just to be a jerk?
If you are going to gripe about my post then perhaps you should follow the rules and not uselessly double post for emphasies. Do as I say not as I do?
And to be clear, yes Ive read the 82 page long how to post, its so convoluted and filled with whining that I am just looking for some clarification. Its called looking for help, I was under the impression that is what this forum was for.
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Yeah, think you're right. But try to understand that there are lots of new users asking questions that have been asked lots of times... Allthough, i think your question ist legitimate.
And: garok89's is no accidental doubleposting.
But anyways, keep cool. Hope, you will find adequate help, dude.
So, I used to play around a lot with my old htc desire 3-4 years ago, during its golden days of software development here on xda. I know my way around flashing, rooting, radios, kernels, etc. pretty well I'd say.
This time with my new nexus I'll probably keep things simple, I like stock lollipop and getting updates faster. But in any case, what are (in your opinion) the modifications that needs to be done to this phone to enjoy a perfect experience? Talking about things like would you unlock bootloader right away? Root? New kernel? What makes it better for you?
In my opinion the "must have" is to unlock bootloader then root and finally buy the Light Flow app to enable notifications led, because when I'm for example play game in fullscreen I can't see latest notifications. It's very useful.
When mine arrives in a couple of days I'll be unlocking, flashing SlimLP and elementalx as soon as its out of the box. Really, you just have to find what you like. Stay stock for a while to get used to it. If you want quicker updates, go to aosp
Unlock Bootloader
Flash TWRP
Create Stock Back Up (EFS and what not)
Flash Root through Recovery
You are golden.
Now you can go flash happy with all of the wonderful things on the site.
Personally > I am running CM12 / Faux Kernel
There are so many of these threads, you can go to any one of the existing threads and already see whats out there. This is nothing different than one of those "best ROM / kernel" threads. Everybody is just going to recommend whatever they're using because thats what they're comfortable with. What another person uses doesn't necessarily mean that its what you should be using.
For sure you should, bootloader unlock (you'll have to enable "OEM unlock" in developer options) before anything and if you want to, you can decrypt your phone (you can find that out by finding the thread).
If you want to enjoy the fullest experience, browse through the forums and find out what appeals to you. Think of it as shopping through a store to find something you're interested in, the only difference is that you don't have to pay.
Toneman07 said:
Unlock Bootloader
Flash TWRP
Create Stock Back Up (EFS and what not)
Flash Root through Recovery
You are golden.
Now you can go flash happy with all of the wonderful things on the site.
Personally > I am running CM12 / Faux Kernel
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This seems quite reasonable. Any particular reasons why you should run a stock rom with root privileges? Also, do you get OTA with root (I( cannot remember this one)?
zephiK said:
There are so many of these threads, you can go to any one of the existing threads and already see whats out there. This is nothing different than one of those "best ROM / kernel" threads. Everybody is just going to recommend whatever they're using because thats what they're comfortable with. What another person uses doesn't necessarily mean that its what you should be using.
For sure you should, bootloader unlock (you'll have to enable "OEM unlock" in developer options) before anything and if you want to, you can decrypt your phone (you can find that out by finding the thread).
If you want to enjoy the fullest experience, browse through the forums and find out what appeals to you. Think of it as shopping through a store to find something you're interested in, the only difference is that you don't have to pay.
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XDA being XDA I guess, telling you that the thread can be answered by searching, lol. In my mind, this is a different kind of question, I want to know what are the simplest modification you can do to get the best experience, let's say to get the best with minimum effort, if you want. Anyway, I do appreciate your input, I did thing that unlock and maybe even custom recovery are a must (at least, you need those if you want to start doing anything else, IIRC).
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XDA being XDA I guess, telling you that the thread can be answered by searching, lol. In my mind, this is a different kind of question, I want to know what are the simplest modification you can do to get the best experience, let's say to get the best with minimum effort, if you want. Anyway, I do appreciate your input, I did thing that unlock and maybe even custom recovery are a must (at least, you need those if you want to start doing anything else, IIRC).
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That's because searching is a rule here. I browse the forums and help people out all the time and posts like this show up on a everyday basis.
The question is not different at all, they all share similar elements to what others have asked and if you read through other people's threads you would have what you were asking for answers in their threads.
In development or using mods, there is no "best." if you want to do anything relating to flash able mods kernels roms then you'll need twrp. It's a necessity. For everything else more than that, you'll have to browse through the forums and find what interests you.
Interests you? Try it. Not happy with it? Try something else. Feeling adventurous? Try something else. The best possible experience is using something new every couple of days until you find that sweet spot where you can settle down with a ROM and kernel set up.
If you're looking for something to narrow down your choices. Look for a kernel or rom based on the following attributes.
How active is the thread? Does the developer release updates often? How many views and posts?
Popularity usually leads to a good experience and it's popular for a reason. Check it out and see why it is so popular. I'm not saying popular is the best but it's a good start.
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Same Here!
I'm also going to get one soon. Most probably I'll unlock that effin bootloader without even unboxing the phone completely lol
I would like to try Official CM12 for Nexus 6 first
whats funny about threads like this, and the op as well, is that the op says he knows whats up about flashing and all the good stuff, but goes ahead and asks what he needs to do. lol! the right thing to do would be not to ask what needs to be done, but to play around with the device and do what YOU want to do to your device. not what others think you should do to your device.
Anyway, thanks for all the people that, instead, came here to have a nice discussion! Some comments were rather helpful!
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3-4 years ago people were way less *****y here, what happened? Y'all need to lay back.
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3-4 years ago, xda was also not as popular to this day. People were more independent and didn't rely so much on having information fed to them.
When I first started out on xda, I pretty much lurked on the forums since I was new to flashing anything on my phone. The first phone I had was a g1 and rooting that phone took over 40 minutes using terminal emulator and telnet.
There wasn't a one click root toolkit for that phone. I spent weeks and months learning the ways and when I finally felt comfortable I started helping others. I rarely ever asked any questions unless it was super necessary.
You haven't even purchased the phone, you have all the time in the world to browse through the forums to see what roms and kernels interest you. The resources to your answer is already there, you're just not finding the answer but yet want others to answer for you.
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Enough with the snide remarks. The OP is asking for some help. If you don't like the question, move on and don't respond. There is no need to post on every thread you see....
To the OP: There is a ton of information in the N6 fora. Do some searching of specific things and browse around. You'll find all the info you need.
Hello, considering it is now almost mid-2017 anyone that's rooted what do you consider to be the most stable feature filled ROMs available for this device (SM-N910T3)and is a different kernel needed? thank you!
OK well I will take the utter silence I'm getting for my a response to my question to mean :
A) Everyone in the Q&A section is UNrooted and on Stock TW.......(eww)
OR
B)Most people who own this older device don't really check the development forums for it much anymore....
OR
C)Most people who have just bought this device (like myself) or have owned it forever are jumping back and forth betwixt and between a bunch of ROMS with each one offering its own set of errors/problems/unhappiness and are also seeking the answer that I seek.
I KNOW its not because you're just too lazy to type the name of your current ROM/Kernel, I just know its not...
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OK well I will take the utter silence I'm getting for my a response to my question to mean :
A) Everyone in the Q&A section is UNrooted and on Stock TW.......(eww)
OR
B)Most people who own this older device don't really check the development forums for it much anymore....
OR
C)Most people who have just bought this device (like myself) or have owned it forever are jumping back and forth betwixt and between a bunch of ROMS with each one offering its own set of errors/problems/unhappiness and are also seeking the answer that I seek.
I KNOW its not because you're just too lazy to type the name of your current ROM/Kernel, I just know its not...
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Best rom for me and this device hands down was tekhd roms but i mkved on as he never updated and i just wanted something new bit hia roms were solid all the way throuh alot of mods with it and had a fantastic community little to no activty is the current status of the thread but any questuons will be answered with a thread search check it out
Quick question. I know there is a roundabout root method for Snapdragon with SamFAIL, but I am curious if anyone is still working to acquire an unlocked bootloader for Snapdragon, for the full root/recovery experience?
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Quick question. I know there is a roundabout root method for Snapdragon with SamFAIL, but I am curious if anyone is still working to acquire an unlocked bootloader for Snapdragon, for the full root/recovery experience?
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please use the search functionality provided by the forum mods. It can automagically provide lots of answers
myechophone said:
please use the search functionality provided by the forum mods. It can automagically provide lots of answers
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Nice canned answer. Don't you think anyone with a brain tries that first? I'm looking for today's updates. Not updates from Oct. 5th. SMH.
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Nice canned answer. Don't you think anyone with a brain tries that first? I'm looking for today's updates. Not updates from Oct. 5th. SMH.
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It's simple, take a look at what has been done for current & past Galaxy S Snapdragons. Note phones follow just like the SamFAIL method. There's a reason why people go through the trouble of getting Exynos.
If a method happens to be found/released you will easily find it in a search or quickly in the development section cause it will be big news. Search does work well, if you don't find a method, it's cause it doesnxt exist yet. I personally doubt it will ever happen. The Note 8 is the first time I ever went with an international model for the very same reason.
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It's simple, take a look at what has been done for current & past Galaxy S Snapdragons. Note phones follow just like the SamFAIL method. There's a reason why people go through the trouble of getting Exynos.
If a method happens to be found/released you will easily find it in a search or quickly in the development section cause it will be big news. Search does work well, if you don't find a method, it's cause it doesnxt exist yet. I personally doubt it will ever happen. The Note 8 is the first time I ever went with an international model for the very same reason.
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Wasn't asking if it existed yet, already knew that. As mentioned, anyone with a brain does a search prior to asking to see if it exists first. I was asking if it was still being worked on. Is there any possible way to get Exynos version to work on Verizon?
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Wasn't asking if it existed yet, already knew that. As mentioned, anyone with a brain does a search prior to asking to see if it exists first. I was asking if it was still being worked on. Is there any possible way to get Exynos version to work on Verizon?
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Again the forums search can give the latest answer you are seeking. Please try it sometimes.
myechophone said:
Again the forums search can give the latest answer you are seeking. Please try it sometimes.
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Lol. I'll be sure to. You could have typed less words answering my question, than getting your panties in another wad over the forum search again. SMH.
For anyone without a brain.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/6801?query=snapdragon bootloader
I'll post a real answer being that all the jerks seem to be chiming in. There has not been an unlocked bootloader on a Snapdragon Samsung device since the Note 4. That was kind of a unique situation because there were Developer's devices floating around at the time. It's never impossible for it to happen, but it is super unlikely for any exploits to allow an unlock at this point. I would even go as far to say that it is almost impossible being that most developers opt out of even owning Snapdragon Samsung devices now and there is likely only maybe a handful of people working on it at best.
To all the "use the search button" people, why not just ignore the post if you don't want to answer it? There is nothing to be gained by being a jerk.
The REAL answer is like @jal3223 says. There are a couple of us working on it. I think like 3...
Is there an Exynos variant that works on Verizon?
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Lol. I'll be sure to. You could have typed less words answering my question, than getting your panties in another wad over the forum search again. SMH.
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It's cause of inability of people like you who do not seem to understand the simple fact that us versions of recent galaxy series have not had any unlocked bootloaders. But unlike any one, you choose to ignore the fact to do some basic search in xda or any other forums. If you feel you are technically sound and smart you should have bought yourself a non snapdragon variant and live happily. Also the dev forum section for note8 has the same q answered multiple times over and over again. Try to keep your pants on before being a sissy to others and ask meaningfully. Peace.
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Is there an Exynos variant that works on Verizon?
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Never
Your so disgruntled. This is not a big deal. It's really not. Dude didn't even ask if it was unlocked, but if it was still being worked on. Which is a legitimate question, even after using the search bar. C'mon guy, stop getting upset, and let's all have some pizza!!!
I appreciate all the REAL answers from those that responded! Glad to hear somebody is still trying, and understand it's a very long shot, but figured since there was a quick root method, maybe there a better chance of unlocking with this Note model.
myechophone may not have found a way to unlock the BL on the Note 8, but he has discovered a way to give himself a period every month, and he is on it right now. Best to ignore him while he has a hormonal meltdown about the forum search.
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I appreciate all the REAL answers from those that responded! Glad to hear somebody is still trying, and understand it's a very long shot, but figured since there was a quick root method, maybe there a better chance of unlocking with this Note model.
myechophone may not have found a way to unlock the BL on the Note 8, but he has discovered a way to give himself a period every month, and he is on it right now. Best to ignore him while he has a hormonal meltdown about the forum search.
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Well the "quick root method" took advantage of the fact that the s8 and s8+ are very similar firmware and hardware wise. Therefore we were actually looking for exploits for 3 devices at once. It was first found to be working on s8. Then we tested on N8. Sure enough it worked. At that point I had been working on root for N8 for almost a month straight(got my phone early)
Sorry new here.. So am I to believe there is a root method for Carrier unlocked version snapdragon Note 8? If so what is it and does it trip Knox? Sorry for the dumb questions.
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Sorry new here.. So am I to believe there is a root method for Carrier unlocked version snapdragon Note 8? If so what is it and does it trip Knox? Sorry for the dumb questions.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/development/root-samfail-galaxy-note8-t3685340
Hey guys, I'm an experienced developer and I just bought the note 8. I'm not sure who the main developers are around here or how Samsung devices work but I'd love to be some help. I'd love to bootloader unlock my phone.
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Hey guys, I'm an experienced developer and I just bought the note 8. I'm not sure who the main developers are around here or how Samsung devices work but I'd love to be some help. I'd love to bootloader unlock my phone.
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Welcome! Not 100% sure myself, but suggest checking the SamFail thread and maybe try getting in touch with partycyborg and me2151.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74074361
Does it have, got my Note 8 a week ago but just wondering has I have not seen anykind of movement for the US variant.
all sorts of threads and posts answer your questions..
Just search, do not be lazy
Oh wow, thanks before posting I searched and found nothing only for older versions using SamFail. Thanks anyways loooool glad to see a gooood comunity
PLUS I said that I didn't saw any kind of movement
@atrix_noob What firmware are you running ?
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@atrix_noob What firmware are you running ?
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It's on 8.0 May 1 security patch.
atrix_noob said:
It's on 8.0 May 1 security patch.
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For the US 950U and 950U1 snapdragon there is no root for the May update. That is bootloader revision 4 and has no root at this time. Your best bet is to keep a eye on the samfail thread for updates.
If your past U3 were sol for now. I think theres only one guy working on a possible partial root. There are lots of apps for theming. Substranium and Good lock are great.
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Oh wow, thanks before posting I searched and found nothing only for older versions using SamFail. Thanks anyways loooool glad to see a gooood comunity
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Dude.
Just search around.
Don't give us the 'lmao such a good community, how about you go and suck it because I don't want to research' attitude.
It's not our fault you couldn't be bothered to check for any activity and read around.
Plus people are tired of having others ask the same question hundreds of others have asked related to root, it's all about searching or reading.
Don't you think if someone found a way to root the newest firmware there would be a lot more sites talking about it?
Sarcasm aside, no, there is no root for Oreo Bootloaders (U4). Only Nougat with U3 or below.
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Dude.
Just search around.
Don't give us the 'lmao such a good community, how about you go and suck it because I don't want to research' attitude.
It's not our fault you couldn't be bothered to check for any activity and read around.
Plus people are tired of having others ask the same question hundreds of others have asked related to root, it's all about searching or reading.
Don't you think if someone found a way to root the newest firmware there would be a lot more sites talking about it?
Sarcasm aside, no, there is no root for Oreo Bootloaders (U4). Only Nougat with U3 or below.
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Before posting I always use the search feature cause it's very usefull. Has you know there are multiple threads and forums and specifically a T-Mobile Model one and its pretty much dead. If YOU read above I said that I didn't see any kind of activity. Another one is that if you read more down below, I stated that all I could find is a SamFail one but it's pretty outdated. So I came here to the Questions & Answers area and posted this thread here to see if anyone had an idea of whats happening with the US models
I don't need for someone to come here and tell me
"Oh don't be lazy and use the search funtion"
Already stated on the first post. Sheesh
And yeah, thanks for the bootloader part.
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Before posting I always use the search feature cause it's very usefull. Has you know there are multiple threads and forums and specifically a T-Mobile Model one. If YOU read above I said that I didn't see any kind of activity. Another one is that if you read more down below, I stated that all I could find is a SamFail one but it's pretty outdated. So I came here to the Questions & Answers area and posted this thread here to see if anyone had an idea of whats happenind with the US models
I don't need for someone to come here and tell me " Oh don't be lazy and use the search funtion"
Alrready stated on the first post. Sheesh
And yeah, thanks for the bootloader part.
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The thing is theres not much firmware differences between models. They might have slight baseband changes but they're all based on the same thing. So root that would work on a Verizon Note8 would work on a T-Mobile Note8.
And yes, the only one we have is sadly the V3 for those unlucky to update.
And I imagine people would check the last section of the thread to be on standby since apparently theres a new exploit that might (or might not) help.
This is why I assumed you didn't check first, but since you did (I didn't see that part), I apologize.
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If your past U3 were sol for now. I think theres only one guy working on a possible partial root. There are lots of apps for theming. Substranium and Good lock are great.
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Thanks for the heads up, I really like the root and all that stuff. Especially for getting rid of all T-Mobile crap on the phone. I'm a person that chages phone alot but I think I'll be giving this guy an exchange for another phone lol. I literally don't last a month with a phone has I like to test other brands and models
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The thing is theres not much firmware differences between models. They might have slight baseband changes but they're all based on the same thing. So root that would work on a Verizon Note8 would work on a T-Mobile Note8.
And yes, the only one we have is sadly the V3 for those unlucky to update.
And I imagine people would check the last section of the thread to be on standby since apparently theres a new exploit that might (or might not) help.
This is why I assumed you didn't check first, but since you did (I didn't see that part), I apologize.
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Don't worry, I searched everywhere but nothing found. Sometimes you know, people spread rumors or someone may know of something that's been on progress but it doesn't come up on public threads.
I been rooting my phones literally ever since I had an Android phone and always do my reaserch before posting on forums, cause you know there's always the people that come and say "Use the search feature" and always try to avoid that.
And yeah, all I read about was on Nougat. So I'll just asume it's dead.
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Don't worry, I searched everywhere but nothing found. Sometimes you know, people spread rumors or someone may know of something that's been on progress but it doesn't come up on public threads.
I been rooting my phones literally ever since I had an Android phone and always do my reaserch before posting on forums, cause you know there's always the people that come and say "Use the search feature" and always try to avoid that.
And yeah, all I read about was on Nougat. So I'll just asume it's dead.
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You switch phones a lot too? Same, heh. Went from having a Note 4 to iPhone 8 Plus, then Note 8, then iPX, then back to Note 8 (cause drawing), but to be fair, I do miss a little of Apple.
To be fair, it's not dead (yet) since the Oreo update landed pretty recently, plus the only tool we had for making it possible got executed pretty much, so I'd give it a little time.
And that search feature situation is a fair point.
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For the US 950U and 950U1 snapdragon there is no root for the May update. That is bootloader revision 4 and has no root at this time. Your best bet is to keep a eye on the samfail thread for updates.
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Thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye on it
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You switch phones a lot too? Same, heh. Went from having a Note 4 to iPhone 8 Plus, then Note 8, then iPX, then back to Note 8 (cause drawing), but to be fair, I do miss a little of Apple.
To be fair, it's not dead (yet) since the Oreo update landed pretty recently, plus the only tool we had for making it possible got executed pretty much, so I'd give it a little time.
And that search feature situation is a fair point.
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Yeah, I have had literally all flagship phones by now except for the Huawei P20.
Last Apple Device I had was the iPX, very good device but the atmosphere of the OS makes it pretty boring to me and get bored at it pretty quickly has you can't make any changes to the look of it.
I got this Note 8, exchanged it for my iPX. The guy that maked the deal with me gave me around 200 bucks and the Note for the iPhone lol.
I love the Note 8, super fast and love the big screen.