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What do people think about integrated antennas like these:
http://store.mp3car.com/Roof_top_GPS_Cellular_PCS_WiFi_antenna_p/com-008.htm
I am thinking about getting one like this for my car obviously to up the gps and cellular signal strength.
A question I have for any TyTn II experts, Which antenna does the WiFi use, is it integrated into the cellular antenna or gps or neither?
Neither, I believe all three have their own internal antennas. I say this because I have seen the internal photos of the Hermes and Trinity (which has GPS) and they had seperate small antennas. The Kaiser has two external antenna ports but after bricking my 1st Hermes by plugging an external antenna in and having it kill my radio, I'll never play the external game again. Besides it seems to work very well on all radios, even simultaneously, without externals.
I Would Have To Go With All In A 3 In One (technicaly)
FROM MY EXPERIENCE I WOULD SAY THAT THEY ALL WORK WITH THE RIGHT DRIVERS.
hOW EVER BEING ABSTRACT I WOULD SAY SINCE I BELIEVE MOST OF ALL THE PHONES HAVE GPS BUILT IN and THAT THE WRITE DRIVER SHOULD GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE THE antenna FROM THE PHONE WHICH HAS MORE THAN ONE WIRE IN IT.
external NOW YOUR TALKING SOME EXTRA BOOST JUST FOR YOUR CONNECTION TO IT.
YOU CANT GO WRONG, TRICK IS ALL ABOUT TIME AND EFFICIENCY COST IS PERSONAL OPINION[
good luck
The first photo is with the rubber grommet off and you can see the hole that goes through to the documented external GPS antenna. In the red circle is a piece of plastic that is blocking another external antenna port.
The 2nd photo is with the whole back off and inside the circle again you can see the extra antenna port.
aboutthemind said:
FROM MY EXPERIENCE I WOULD SAY THAT THEY ALL WORK WITH THE RIGHT DRIVERS.
hOW EVER BEING ABSTRACT I WOULD SAY SINCE I BELIEVE MOST OF ALL THE PHONES HAVE GPS BUILT IN and THAT THE WRITE DRIVER SHOULD GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE THE antenna FROM THE PHONE WHICH HAS MORE THAN ONE WIRE IN IT.
external NOW YOUR TALKING SOME EXTRA BOOST JUST FOR YOUR CONNECTION TO IT.
YOU CANT GO WRONG, TRICK IS ALL ABOUT TIME AND EFFICIENCY COST IS PERSONAL OPINION
good luck
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1. Stop yelling!
2. Most phones do NOT have GPS built-in.
3. You don't need drivers to use an external antenna. It's a physical connection.
4. Get your facts straight.
5. I like the antenna. Now if it had an XM antenna in it, I would buy it in a heartbeat. It would also work great for wardriving (not with my Tilt, but with my laptop)
Another Fan i apologize for not being clear
Lidberg said:
1. Stop yelling!
Please refrain from giving me orders!
2. Most phones do NOT have GPS built-in.
Actually they do to eliminate have to change a board already n production. besides the kaiser is older like 5 years then an mda.
3. You don't need drivers to use an external antenna. It's a physical connection.
Who said anything about drivers for the XM Radio antenna. I said Driversfor the internal gps antena. Read the kaiser wiki... the wiki for the pre-installed gps module.
4. Get your facts straight.
Well this is the part where tell you my way of thinking. I dont read so bare with me considering i am self taught and taking over a hundred different phones apart i can even say with out knowing that they stopped the technology cause 1000 features that are to advanced become a forum!!!!
Again if you are a HTC technician or a hardware engineer for any of the pocket pc device i will with draw any of my comments.
How ever of your here for fun and to learn do a litle bit of home work before you accidentally insult some one willing to read your opinion.
Hope i was a little bit better in explaining what i meant
ciao
5. I like the antenna. Now if it had an XM antenna in it, I would buy it in a heartbeat. It would also work great for wardriving (not with my Tilt, but with my laptop)
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This can be done
People don't like when you use ALL CAPS. It looks like you're yelling at them.
The way you made your statement, it sounded like you needed drivers for the GPS antenna, which is not true. You need drivers to utilize the GPS radio. Two different things. You even got the two mixed up in the same post.
I seriously doubt the Kaiser is 5 years old. Where are you getting this information??
Personally I think your statements tend to ramble and be incoherent, but I digress. The Kaiser is an excellent phone. I love having built-in GPS. I am probably going to buy an external GPS antenna for it, although it really doesn't need it. I can even get 2-3 birds inside my house.
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Actually they do to eliminate have to change a board already n production. besides the kaiser is older like 5 years then an mda.
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What does this mean? That HTC or other cell phone manufacturer are removing components on a board they've already produced before they release a new phone? Why on earth would they do that when they could save the cost of buying the additional circuitry in the first place and just order a run of what they want?
I said Driversfor the internal gps antena.
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Antennae don't require drivers. Circuits do. What you're saying doesn't make any sense.
...they stopped the technology cause 1000 features that are to advanced become a forum!!!!
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This doesn't make any sense.
Again if you are a HTC technician or a hardware engineer for any of the pocket pc device i will with draw any of my comments.
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I'm neither, but I believe you need to withdraw your comments.
Hope i was a little bit better in explaining what i meant
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Not really, no. It sounds like you're saying the Kaiser is using a board that's five years old and has physically had circuits removed from it because HTC didn't want to provide all of the features/functions that they could. I sincerely doubt that this is the case, since they'll produce a couple million of these things and paying even $1 extra for circuits they'll remove and labor to remove them makes no sense when they can order up a board that they want and get it for cheaper.
Throw in that you posted in all caps (considered rude by just about everyone) and then provided information that just doesn't add up, I'm not surprised you got push back.
Again i apologize for beining insulted and for any misrepresentation
I really don't feel like explaining my self, so if you feel that i am attacking you i apologize.
considering that i have simply stated a an opinion and you have managed to exert the fact that you do not respect others. i will respond.
and seriously just take what you like in theory and leave the stuff that you dont like.
I am not going to explain that typing is not the easiest thing for me. please don't mistake that for a representation of how i deal with people.
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What does this mean? That HTC or other cell phone manufacturer are removing components on a board they've already produced before they release a new phone? Why on earth would they do that when they could save the cost of buying the additional circuitry in the first place and just order a run of what they want?
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Wow now were ar talking so a little lesson in busines 101 agan i can only base this on doing business in the us for over ten years this is not to have you answer me back
cost of labor for most manufacture is far greater than the price of parts in bulk.
out of respect for the people reading this ill stop thier.
Antennae don't require drivers. Circuits do. What you're saying doesn't make any sense.sorry for confusing the the exact words i was trying to offend everyone are you kidding me
1000 features that no one needs
This doesn't make any sense.
ok so since your opinion is not completely biast this again alies the theaory of an article in a vry small country called he us have youu heard of it?
Seriuosley i am in no mood to go over every line to some one that is biast to my comment that all of a sudden became an issue.
Listen genious and i do say geneous with respect the fact is and this goes for all. technology has far supercede the cash cow(people who buy, consumers, money, what makes the world go round)
i noticed after getting into the bigger phones like the 1700 and the BA and the hermes that they all look the same or have very similar compositions.
I came to the conclusion that they all had gps in them from a market professional stand pioint. So really just appriciate some input.
You want the facts well yeh its but so what i was trying to give some input before you reminded me that i wll end up having to type for an hour cause a genious felt it necessary to chalenge me.
I'm neither, but I believe you need to withdraw your comments.
Ok no problem please understand i was giving input and you decided to insult me.
I openly withdraw any comment i have ever made that you feel is not worthy as another member put it and if you would like me to say that i am sorry posting i do.
Not really, no. It sounds like you're saying
the Kaiser is using a board that's five years old and has physically had circuits removed from it because HTC didn't want to provide all of the features/functions that they could.
no one said anything about removal, baords for the most part have alot of he circuits on them it makes it vary easy to acomplish global standards and upgrades and maximizing profit by making upgrades look tangible.
I sincerely doubt that this is the case, since they'll produce a couple million of these things and paying even $1 extra for circuits they'll remove and labor to remove them makes no sense when they can order up a board that they want and get it for cheaper.
I agree that would make no sense thats why i would nt say it i see where your coming from.
Throw in that you posted in all caps (considered rude by just about everyone) and then provided information that just doesn't add up,
I'm not surprised you got push back.
i wouldnt know but i apriciate yur interest in my curent position and standings may be you could show me how i can get pms cause its very hard for me to read i have add and typing is the worst,
What a waste of time and energy i apologize to anyone having to read this
you see chief i didn't ven relize that that the caps lock was on but since you decide to think now i will tell you the system i use wich is also a system i created because of you thinking for me requires caps lock to be own as well as the state of ca on documents.
so again i apologize
record time MIKE 1:15 mins
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bazzatron said:
The first photo is with the rubber grommet off and you can see the hole that goes through to the documented external GPS antenna. In the red circle is a piece of plastic that is blocking another external antenna port.
The 2nd photo is with the whole back off and inside the circle again you can see the extra antenna port.
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Thanks for the visual thats what i am talking about
back to the real question
i would look for any type of after market booster car kit easiest way is google the word china after it and you would be shocked what youll find they can pretty much customize anything the word to use for phones in china is not cellular or htc.. pocket pc
"mobile phone"
is the key word attached to gps car kit or what ever
always request a sample good luck only sugestion i am not an expert
sorry about the caps didnt see it
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People don't like when you use ALL CAPS. It looks like you're yelling at them.
The way you made your statement, it sounded like you needed drivers for the GPS antenna, which is not true. You need drivers to utilize the GPS radio. Two different things. You even got the two mixed up in the same post.
again tabgled up up a bit my bad
I seriously doubt the Kaiser is 5 years old. Where are you getting this information??
well not to be a drag but the hermes is been around for ages and again not to be rude but the kaiser is not the first phone to have a total new build. just some awsome exploited adjustments.
Personally I think your statements tend to ramble and be incoherent, but I digress.
well i guess everyone has an opinion but no need to insult me
The Kaiser is an excellent phone. I love having built-in GPS. I am probably going to buy an external GPS antenna for it, although it really doesn't need it. I can even get 2-3 birds inside my house.
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Kool let me know how it goes
if i get around to it
i am assuming it can hook into a car via blue toothe???????
aboutthemind said:
sue.
Listen genious and i do say geneous with respect the fact is and this goes for all. technology has far supercede the cash cow(people who buy, consumers, money, what makes the world go round)
i noticed after getting into the bigger phones like the 1700 and the BA and the hermes that they all look the same or have very similar compositions.
I came to the conclusion that they all had gps in them from a market professional stand pioint.
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Don't insult us by calling us "genius". There are a lot of very smart people on this board. Without their help, my phone wouldn't be nearly as fun to play with.
You made a pretty broad assumption that if one or two phones have GPS built-in, then all of them do. The fact is, very few phones have GPS built-in. My last phone, the 8525, was a very good phone with lots of features. It's less than a year old and it doesn't have GPS. Go ahead and keep making those assumptions and you'll stand out as someone who doesn't know how to do any kind of research. You will make yourself look like a fool.
P.S. Spell check is your friend. Use it.
Actually the 8525 does have GPS! However, after in-depth investigation these XDA folks identified that while the IC Chipset did have GPS as part of it's standard fratures, HTC shorted those particular pins to ground on the circuit board and did not include the internal amp and antenna assembly as well so it was impossible to make it work on them without major micro surgery. The Trinity, however, had the components and thru software was able to have it's GPS come to life. But certainly all phones don't have Chipsets with integrated GPS.
I would agree that many companies will use a particular chip and elect NOT to provide all of the features at first release or for specific models, that is normal marketing driven buisness and gives us reasons to buy the next model.
XDA certainly has made it possible for us all to reap the collective tinkering experience and get more from the phones we have and sometimes get these hidden features with a little work.
No disrespect "aboutthemind", but I must agree that your text is a challenge to understand, but I'm always amazed at the worldwide, round-the-clock, activity on this forum. I've learned so much here.
RemE said:
Actually the 8525 does have GPS! However, after in-depth investigation these XDA folks identified that while the IC Chipset did have GPS as part of it's standard fratures, HTC shorted those particular pins to ground on the circuit board and did not include the internal amp and antenna assembly as well so it was impossible to make it work on them without major micro surgery. The Trinity, however, had the components and thru software was able to have it's GPS come to life. But certainly all phones don't have Chipsets with integrated GPS.
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I remember that discussion well about the 8525 GPS. I think one guy even had the GPS working, but only by disassembling the phone and having wires running everywhere. Not exactly portable...
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I remember that discussion well about the 8525 GPS. I think one guy even had the GPS working, but only by disassembling the phone and having wires running everywhere. Not exactly portable...
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Actually they got the GPS chip activated but could receive no valid data since the antenna bits were not present, they investigated the internal components and determined that it was basically not worth the effort to attempt to unsoldier all of the grounded pins on the chip and then get an amp/bandpass filter and antenna installed. No one ever got a 8525 to work and the project halted, but along came Kaiser!
Here's another one: http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=151025 much cheaper too, but only to be placed on the dash. Probably work just as good though.
My Wing has only one external connection. I bought a 3 watt Wilson booster which then goes to a Yagi (one directional antenna). Its awesome the reception I get. Costs about $300.00 to do all this.
ok no gps in 8525 and aboutthemind is a fool Y N
Lidberg said:
Don't insult us by calling us "genius". There are a lot of very smart people on this board. Without their help, my phone wouldn't be nearly as fun to play with.
You made a pretty broad assumption that if one or two phones have GPS built-in, then all of them do. The fact is, very few phones have GPS built-in. My last phone, the 8525, was a very good phone with lots of features. It's less than a year old and it doesn't have GPS. Go ahead and keep making those assumptions and you'll stand out as someone who doesn't know how to do any kind of research. You will make yourself look like a fool.
P.S. Spell check is your friend. Use it.
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let me ask you a question, what gives you the right to speak for another person, I would you like to help the gentle man that was here for help cause i am confused as to why you want me to engage in this. i will if we can all end up with a gps that also gives you real-time police positions. Linberg i strongly sugest you bring a positive opinion to this one cause so far your not really contributing to a solution.
With all due respect sir, please refrain from putting words in my mouth. I have addressed the typing and by the looks of it i don't think u get that you my friend are assuming that i am just swing info from my hip.
your right but it from my eyes and hands threw my head to a yellow box so you can see.
now the comment you made finished this so at least we know that your old phone has a gps in it what else can we add to the gentle mans question..
yes i am a fool for answering you but i'll just pass cause i have no interest in your theory due to the nature of your comments.
gps is in the 8525 and yes you can take apart a phone. and im gane i got one in pieces so no is the time but the kaisers 8525 so the fun is one and that is poff's world i would start by maybe doing some reading on his work mans a guru
Mike I'm trying my best but out of respect for the genius members all of them including this guy . i can't take another comment with out losing character.
Mr Lindberg i regret to inform you that calling people fool and names and insulting my dyslexias probably cost you. I like the name very historical but again i will only ask you one more time do not insult me and do not speak for the team
yes we have lift off
zcink said:
My Wing has only one external connection. I bought a 3 watt Wilson booster which then goes to a Yagi (one directional antenna). Its awesome the reception I get. Costs about $300.00 to do all this.
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yeah thats what I'm talking about i like it. can yu post a link
aboutthemind said:
let me ask you a question, what gives you the right to speak for another person, I would you like to help the gentle man that was here for help cause i am confused as to why you want me to engage in this. i will if we can all end up with a gps that also gives you real-time police positions. Linberg i strongly sugest you bring a positive opinion to this one cause so far your not really contributing to a solution.
With all due respect sir, please refrain from putting words in my mouth. I have addressed the typing and by the looks of it i don't think u get that you my friend are assuming that i am just swing info from my hip.
your right but it from my eyes and hands threw my head to a yellow box so you can see.
now the comment you made finished this so at least we know that your old phone has a gps in it what else can we add to the gentle mans question..
yes i am a fool for answering you but i'll just pass cause i have no interest in your theory due to the nature of your comments.
gps is in the 8525 and yes you can take apart a phone. and im gane i got one in pieces so no is the time but the kaisers 8525 so the fun is one and that is poff's world i would start by maybe doing some reading on his work mans a guru
Mike I'm trying my best but out of respect for the genius members all of them including this guy . i can't take another comment with out losing character.
Mr Lindberg i regret to inform you that calling people fool and names and insulting my dyslexias probably cost you. I like the name very historical but again i will only ask you one more time do not insult me and do not speak for the team
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Sorry man, but I can't make any sense out of what you're trying to say. I didn't put any words into your mouth. I don't know where you got that idea.
You made some pretty broad statements about GPS in phones and I told you that that is not true - most phones do not have GPS built-in. The 8525 has some of the hardware, but it is not a complete, workable solution.
Also, I did not call you a fool. I said you would look like a fool if you made broad statements about phones in general that are not true.
'nuff said.
I've been using the Tilt since late January and have treated the thing like a king....but today it died. The guy at the AT&T corporate store said it was a battery problem...so he replaced it and it worked for like an hour. He now says that the phone is defective.
He is having a new one sent to me and it will be here in 5 days and when I get the new one I don't want it anymore........I will gladly sell the thing for $250 plus shipping. If any of you want a spare or know someone who would like one please let me know. I bought another phone while at the phone store so if nobody buys it from me I'm throwing it in the trash.
Sorry to hear about you problems with the Tilt..... What are you going to replace it with?
Well, that's a completely stupid & ignorant statement.
If you're willing to throw it away, why not donate it to one of those charities that supplies phones to domestic violence victims.
Or to one of the masters of XDA, preferably in another forum to steal away another bright mind to come to Kaiser, or to someone working on porting drivers.
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Well, that's a completely stupid & ignorant statement.
If you're willing to throw it away, why not donate it to one of those charities that supplies phones to domestic violence victims.
Or to one of the masters of XDA, preferably in another forum to steal away another bright mind to come to Kaiser, or to someone working on porting drivers.
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This will be the third Tilt I've received and I'm tired of this poorly designed phone, so think of it this way. Getting a few bucks out of the phone will help me recoup some of the money I've lost, but donating the phone to a charity is idiotic because it's not nice to give something that's essentially broken by design. If I give it to a developer here I'm out even more money on shipping, and I'll never hear the end of it for *donating a defective phone. I'll just be asked why did I bother it's just junk. Making the transfer a financial transaction I can make the other party responsible for their actions by full disclosure.
Did you really setup an XDA account just so you could post your complaints?
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Did you really setup an XDA account just so you could post your complaints?
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Nope, read 1st post.
i found website that might help you want to throw away a tilt http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare
after seeing quite a number of posts about dead tilts...often with it being the 2nd, or even 3rd+ tilt that has died...
i'm wondering if perhaps some of these issues are related to voltage regulation.
in other words, maybe the tilts are getting fried due to over/under voltage issues...whether it be from bad a/c at the house, or from the laptop usb port (i know when i plug my tilt into one specific computer i can "feel" the electricity in the buttons...that can't be good)...or from starting the car with the tilt in the cigarette lighter (i wouldn't ever advise that), or just from a faulty charger.
over time any of the above issues could kill any electronic device.
maybe the tilt is just more sensitive to voltage issues than other phones.... and so when one tilt is replaced, the next one dies too...because the same over/under voltage problem is still present. ...just a thought...i haven't experienced any problems with my tilt...yet
...but i have had pieces of electrical equipment die or malfunction due to voltage problems.
casenickles said:
I've been using the Tilt since late January and have treated the thing like a king....but today it died. The guy at the AT&T corporate store said it was a battery problem...so he replaced it and it worked for like an hour. He now says that the phone is defective.
He is having a new one sent to me and it will be here in 5 days and when I get the new one I don't want it anymore........I will gladly sell the thing for $250 plus shipping. If any of you want a spare or know someone who would like one please let me know. I bought another phone while at the phone store so if nobody buys it from me I'm throwing it in the trash.
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When do u take ur trash out?
I'll buy it for $50
GSLEON3 said:
Well, that's a completely stupid & ignorant statement.
If you're willing to throw it away, why not donate it to one of those charities that supplies phones to domestic violence victims.
Or to one of the masters of XDA, preferably in another forum to steal away another bright mind to come to Kaiser, or to someone working on porting drivers.
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Not to mention irresponsible, I don't know how it is where he lives, but here in California anything that plugs in or takes batteries MUST BY LAW be recycled at a proper facility, that stuff can leach all kind of nasties into the environment.
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This will be the third Tilt I've received and I'm tired of this poorly designed phone...
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Just curious... What prompted the first replacement?
californiarailroader said:
Not to mention irresponsible, I don't know how it is where he lives, but here in California anything that plugs in or takes batteries MUST BY LAW be recycled at a proper facility, that stuff can leach all kind of nasties into the environment.
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I live in Columbus Ohio and I take all my electronics to the local DIY store as they do recycling there and not at the community I live in. Saying I'm going to throw it in the *trash is my way of saying I'm going to get rid of it with other similar junk people don't want anymore.
In fact I must take all my electronics to a recycling place because my community will fine me big time if I take it to the dumpster that they rent.
I'm from MI and they do far less recycling there so when I was a kid basically anything that had lost it's use was *trashed, even if it went to a recycle bin somewhere.
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Just curious... What prompted the first replacement?
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My first Tilt went crazy on me around day 2-3 when it just started to jumble all the characters on the screen and redraw images in random pixelated blocks of ****. So I took it to the store I got it from and they verified that it was a crazy phone and gave a me a new one on the spot.
con_ritmo said:
after seeing quite a number of posts about dead tilts...often with it being the 2nd, or even 3rd+ tilt that has died...
i'm wondering if perhaps some of these issues are related to voltage regulation.
in other words, maybe the tilts are getting fried due to over/under voltage issues...whether it be from bad a/c at the house, or from the laptop usb port (i know when i plug my tilt into one specific computer i can "feel" the electricity in the buttons...that can't be good)...or from starting the car with the tilt in the cigarette lighter (i wouldn't ever advise that), or just from a faulty charger.
over time any of the above issues could kill any electronic device.
maybe the tilt is just more sensitive to voltage issues than other phones.... and so when one tilt is replaced, the next one dies too...because the same over/under voltage problem is still present. ...just a thought...i haven't experienced any problems with my tilt...yet
...but i have had pieces of electrical equipment die or malfunction due to voltage problems.
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I'd like to think your on to something, but in my case I've tried several different chargers in several different places and even different branded batteries, and still a no go on getting a properly functioning Tilt.
AthenaLod said:
When do u take ur trash out?
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When my surveillance cameras catch trash stalkers giving up and going back to their cardboard box homes. I might have some water repellent spray left I can throw in the trash for ya to weatherize your place.
d00mz said:
I'll buy it for $50
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When you learn to count higher come back to the negotiating table jr.
casenickles, go check ur PM inbox!
Thanks for all the pm's everyone. When I get off work 3pm Eastern I will respond to all of you.
I'll give ya $125 right now.
Hey guy's
I need to remove the fornt and back camers from the device because i'm working in facility which prohibited to enter with camers.
I would like to know if the device will continue to function WITHOUT the camera module?
I mean, if I remove the camera modules from the device, will it function normaly?
Thanks!
good luck
do they even see you've a front camera?
Why don't you get an old crappy phone to use there and your sgs outside ?
Because I need to use some of the features of the device while working
Any1 can please answer my question?
Just tell them you removed it....its not like they will break your phone
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I doubt anyone here will know.. If you are good with electronics, check the way they are connected to the mainboard. But realistically, you can only try it. Not sure if both cameras would be connected to a separate board though
I've broken down PDAs and smart phones over the years and even done a lens replacement and a camera module replacement on an iPhone. I can tell you right now the time cost and angst are not nearly worth the effort. For example the back case replacement on the iPhone 3G requires an almost complete tear-down of the device minus thankfully separating the glass screen from the digitizer and the LCD. I do not do this repair in my business because the cost and time is worth more then the device its self.
That all said, you have a unique situation that possible requires unique effort. If your company bought the phone for you I would say go for it, with approval of course.
Odd you would need the device but not allowed cameras... you designing a competing device? You wouldn't work in Redmond would you?
Alright enough teasing. Disabling or removing the modules might mess with so many other components or even the OS. Think of it as simple PC with a missing component, sometimes it wont boot without it, even though it seems completely unrelated to the core system. Without being on the design build teem of said device, its a crap shoot it would even run without the modules.
Removing the lenses might be a better option, as silly as that sounds. Just taking one apart is opening a crazy can of worms. And I seriously wish you luck.
Call Samsung and tell them your Q from James Bond maybe they will offer to help. Seriously, try the manufacturer, after they say up and down and over and over again that it will void your warranty, they might just help you.
This site is more about software development, mods and roms, then actual hardware work. Good luck though! And post pictures of the break down... ahhh... with a different camera, ...and not at work. ;-)
Just place some tape over the lens. =)
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Why don't you use some paint?
Then you don't need to ruin the phone.
They can test it and it will not show anything.
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well I guess that you should just dissable it http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/ and remove the lens and tape the wires ..
Can I ask you a question. Are you a spy? Just kidding lol. Looks like you'll have to give this one a go yourself. It's not like people take there cameras out there phones to see if they will boot everyday. If you find out the answer please report back...
DamianGto said:
Why don't you use some paint?
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Since paint would not be easy to remove, maybe your workplace would be ok with that? Would look ugly though.
Maybe buy a cheap phone for work and leave the SGS at home or in your car (if you drive).
You sparked my interest, ...I found a fairly good site with a break-down list with pictures and I think a video of the disassembly.
http://www.sprintdroids.com/forum/s...-galaxy-s-torn-down-extensively-detailed.html
Sorry about the jokes before, I just couldn't resist.
A hint on after tear downs, restart up procedures can be odd. The iPhone likes to be restarted up in recovery mode or it wont boot. And stay grounded! Use a grounding wrist strap. One static arc and it will fry any of the multitude of chips.
I have know idea about our Galaxy S's. Read study and Google it a lot. I did my best when I read about all the mistakes and failure people made, and there were many. Over time as this device becomes more popular it will have far more data on the web. Right now its so new not to many people are cracking the cases with being under warranties etc... Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Don
If you use right paint. Use waterbased paint.
You could easy removed it with car polish without damage the lens when you dont want it anymore.
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For god's sake, whatever you do, don't buy:
Flytouch 3 superpad 2 (or any of its clones).
The support forum is filled with problems with the clones, too many to list.
The Ibex Flytouch 3 originals have very poor batteries, supposed to be 8000 mAh (2 x 4000), and are more like 2 x 1800. Most people are having troubles getting them to accept a charge at all.
Their internal GPS is locked to China, SOME people have managed to unlock them by spending a couple of hours deleting caches, rebooting, trying to re-fix the satellites, repeat until working or give up. MOST people still have not managed to unlock the GPS from China.
Market ONLY shows the free apps (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). When you are sent to market from an email, website, or even the tablets OWN auto update service, it won't show the app you are looking for.
They MAY appear to be cheap value-for-money Android tablet alternatives; trust me, they ARE NOT. Save up more money and get a proper named brand tablet.
Update:
My Flytouch 3 is no more, at about 4 days old the charging battery exploded, melting the FT3 and scorching the computer desk.
I urge anyone thinking of buying one of the Ibex Flytouch 3's, or its clones (Superpad 2 or 3) - DON'T!
Fluffbutt said:
For god's sake, whatever you do, don't buy:
Flytouch 3 superpad 2 (or any of its clones).
The support forum is filled with problems with the clones, too many to list.
The Ibex Flytouch 3 originals have very poor batteries, supposed to be 8000 mAh (2 x 4000), and are more like 2 x 1800. Most people are having troubles getting them to accept a charge at all.
Their internal GPS is locked to China, SOME people have managed to unlock them by spending a couple of hours deleting caches, rebooting, trying to re-fix the satellites, repeat until working or give up. MOST people still have not managed to unlock the GPS from China.
Market ONLY shows the free apps (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). When you are sent to market from an email, website, or even the tablets OWN auto update service, it won't show the app you are looking for.
They MAY appear to be cheap value-for-money Android tablet alternatives; trust me, they ARE NOT. Save up more money and get a proper named brand tablet.
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Why would people plauge the world with such horrific devices?
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Why would people plauge the world with such horrific devices?
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People are always trying to find ways of getting a similar item for cheaper prices - I know, I did!.
Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
PassingExpert
i own this and for what i use it for its actually not bad updates are often and like all android devices its getting better with each one!
mind you my phone is faster ha
I got banned from there because they didn't want anyone warned of the faulty batteries, they're the most fanatic people over their FT3's.
So you assume I did a whole lot of things and it's my fault it exploded. You can assume anything.
"mess around with your battery config," - ChinaGrabber tell you to go to that forum for help, and do what's posted there. Now I'M to blame for doing just that?
It got buried under kitty litter because the fumes from burnt lithium batteries are toxic.
Shame on me?? you make assumptions!
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Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
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*Mod Edit* let's keep it clean and keep the name calling to a minimum.
Alright, everybody chill out. No name callings.
@Fluffbutt: Pics, or GTFO. Seriously.
@PassingExpert: A one hit wonder from you? While I can't agree with either of you, I'd cut down on the name calling, because you aren't going to make many friends with that.
As for the rest of this thread:
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@Fluffbutt: Pics, or GTFO. Seriously.
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What makes you think I feel any need to prove this to anyone here?
It happened. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant to it happening and irrelevant to me..
my 32gb iBex Flytouch3 works perfectly. Would recommend iBex Flytouch3 (real FT3) to my friends.
I bought flytouch3 from taobao.com. It cost almost 250 USD.
It may be the most expensive one in taobao, but it works good.
It can standby at least 6 hrs, and the GPS works in Taiwan.
Market can show all apps including the charged apps.
I just bought one yesterday from chinagrabber, shame on me? From what I've gathered the information this is the best and most supported chinese tablet there is..
Yes another classic example of somebody not doing their homework before buying something and then blindly attacking it with a soldering iron and hacksaw.
I'm more than satisfied with mine, it's not the fastest piece of kit, but for €150 it's certainly worth the money if you have a good working knowledge of Android and now how to fix a few quirks.
If you read around the forums, there is support for all of them. I have yet to have found an issue that couldn't be remidied in one way shape or form. I bought mine for $150 US shipped. I'm no knocking Ibex. Just merely stating that their pad isn't the only option. Open minded-ness is what I'm getting at. I've heard a lot of bad things about ChinaGrabber's return policy's etc., and that left a bad taste in my mouth. I wanted an inexpensive pad with some support on the US side (I.e warranty issues). I know I could have purchased something else, but this was what I wanted.
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I've now been playing with my FT3 couple of days and I'm very happy with it, with Tim5a rom everything works, Market (it shows paid apps if I buy them from my Android cellphone). GPS works well out of the box, it's fast, Youtube, Flash all working. Battery life is very good, I don't keep it on standby as it does eat the battery even without wifi off. If you've ever used a Android phone this feels like home and the performance is the same. Resistive screen just gets a little bit more to get used to compared to capacitive but it's really responsive. Videos play very nicely, only tried 720p but all worked without a single lag.
Hey this thread scared me at start but then it looks like it ended up very good.
cuz i'm waiting for mine to arrive and i wonder is there any complete guide how to speed it up and ect..?
Thanks in advance
/Maffien
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Hey this thread scared me at start but then it looks like it ended up very good.
cuz i'm waiting for mine to arrive and i wonder is there any complete guide how to speed it up and ect..?
Thanks in advance
/Maffien
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The best guide is to install Tim5a rom the speed increase is very good, try it stock before upgrading to see the difference.
Don't.
Market ONLY shows the free apps not to mention all the other problems (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). For YOUR OWN sake don't buy this piece. Really if you want an ANDROID tablet then save your money and buy a legitimate Android Tablet from a well known manufacturer. It's the WORST money I've ever spent in my life. PLEASE don't waste your time. And if you do and are satisfied with a cheap poor generic excuse for an android spending hours upon end of your life downloading and installing firmware, then more power to you, have fun. I just wish I would have saved my money than to have given it to scam artists or try to get help from those who need to help sale more CRAPWARE by saying its all volunteer. Really really real. (Now watch how I get called names and treated like dirt for posting this on a thread that is titled: Warning not to buy Flytouch 3 or clones.) It's crazy how easy it is to get caught up by weirdos at crappad tv who act like they are helping the world or something not following any of there own rules. Please DON'T be fooled by the posts that follow this saying how good it is. Believe me, it is not. Save a little more money even if its just 100 or 200 more. Get a LEGITIMATE ANDROID TABLET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
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Oh it's you PassingExpert, I saw your whole song and dance on xda-developers today, not surprized that everyone ignored you. First you troll around with your troll post, then god only know what else you did and then you troll. Then claim something about someone that is nothing but trolling.
Baring in mind you trolled. Then you trolled that someone said something somewhere else, so you couldn't show anything other than trolling, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
Totally agree with you,mine is disco10 version,and use the tim5a rom very well.
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The best guide is to install Tim5a rom the speed increase is very good, try it stock before upgrading to see the difference.
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I am not trolling, but maybe the N4 isn't for you, I hope you won't close this thread or get to mad, I just want to save some the frustration of buying this device ... here is why
1. OTG USB - it said it had it when I bought it, it doesn't ! This isn't a very "advanced" feature nowadays and is basic. I can't plug in a keyboard, a external drive, or million other things. This would have been a deal breaker for me.
2. The battery isn't very good, having extra batteries is a very good thing, and charging them in a charger with you phone stashed away is a must while traveling sometimes.
3. It is too fragile for many people's daily use, the glass back is expensive to replace, it doesn't have areas made to take impacts like most phones should for use in the real world.
4. An SD card is awesome in a phone, it really is you can do so much in daily productivity with one.
5. It doesn't come with a headset and that sucks big time, ad that to the cost of ownership.
6. JB doesn't have Mass Storage mode, this very important to many people, Samsung still has it thou. Its great as you might want to plug your phone into a strangers mac in the middle of a desert one day and you won't be able to move files.
7. the main camera is under glass, so if you scratch the glass you get bad shots.
8. it is so slippery that you need to have a bumper on it, I dont like cases and bumpers as It is already to big for my pocket naked.
Now I know there is reasons people might love this phone, for playing games plugged in at home, some might care about getting updates ASAP (i dont care at all) It does have a pretty screen, wireless charging... there is lots of reasons you might LOVE this phone, but for ME it is a big huge downgrade from any other "superphone"
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I am not trolling, but maybe the N4 isn't for you, I hope you won't close this thread or get to mad, I just want to save some the frustration of buying this device ... here is why
1. OTG USB - it said it had it when I bought it, it doesn't ! This isn't a very "advanced" feature nowadays and is basic. I can't plug in a keyboard, a external drive, or million other things. This would have been a deal breaker for me.
2. The battery isn't very good, having extra batteries is a very good thing, and charging them in a charger with you phone stashed away is a must while traveling sometimes.
3. It is too fragile for many people's daily use, the glass back is expensive to replace, it doesn't have areas made to take impacts like most phones should for use in the real world.
4. An SD card is awesome in a phone, it really is you can do so much in daily productivity with one.
5. It doesn't come with a headset and that sucks big time, ad that to the cost of ownership.
6. JB doesn't have Mass Storage mode, this very important to many people, Samsung still has it thou. Its great as you might want to plug your phone into a strangers mac in the middle of a desert one day and you won't be able to move files.
7. the main camera is under glass, so if you scratch the glass you get bad shots.
8. it is so slippery that you need to have a bumper on it, I dont like cases and bumpers as It is already to big for my pocket naked.
Now I know there is reasons people might love this phone, for playing games plugged in at home, some might care about getting updates ASAP (i dont care at all) It does have a pretty screen, wireless charging... there is lots of reasons you might LOVE this phone, but for ME it is a big huge downgrade from any other "superphone"
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I looked through your post history and all you do is tell us why you hate this phone. Listen, we don't have Alzheimer so we don't need constant reminding of your opinion. Just get a phone you like and shut up.
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wow this exact same thread was just closed and now he makes the exact same one with different title. No need to reply this is a troll and this thread will be closed too. Hopefully he will be banned too.
:thumbup: cool story bro
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I like this phone, a lot.. I Also thoroughly enjoy a beer with a freshly opened bag of beef jerky..
That is all
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Anyone likes cake?
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richteralan said:
Anyone likes cake?
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Cake up in the face? Not even on my birthday
I am not trolling, but maybe the N4 isn't for you, I hope you won't close this thread or get to mad, I just want to save some the frustration of buying this device ... here is why
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you can't decide that.
1. OTG USB - it said it had it when I bought it, it doesn't ! This isn't a very "advanced" feature nowadays and is basic. I can't plug in a keyboard, a external drive, or million other things. This would have been a deal breaker for me.
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I guess this was told before the release
2. The battery isn't very good, having extra batteries is a very good thing, and charging them in a charger with you phone stashed away is a must while traveling sometimes.
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again was told even before you bought it
3. It is too fragile for many people's daily use, the glass back is expensive to replace, it doesn't have areas made to take impacts like most phones should for use in the real world.
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glass back gives a nice feel to the phone unlike the plasticy Samsung phones (bear in mind even they are slippery and flimsy)
4. An SD card is awesome in a phone, it really is you can do so much in daily productivity with one.
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again was told even before you bought it
5. It doesn't come with a headset and that sucks big time, ad that to the cost of ownership.
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you get what you pay for.
6. JB doesn't have Mass Storage mode, this very important to many people, Samsung still has it thou. Its great as you might want to plug your phone into a strangers mac in the middle of a desert one day and you won't be able to move files.
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I stick a usb into my mac and the phone at the other end and I can transfer files to the n4.
7. the main camera is under glass, so if you scratch the glass you get bad shots.
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same with 90% of the phones out there.
8. it is so slippery that you need to have a bumper on it, I dont like cases and bumpers as It is already to big for my pocket naked.
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don't buy it then..but it's for you to decide for yourself not for others
Now I know there is reasons people might love this phone, for playing games plugged in at home, some might care about getting updates ASAP (i dont care at all) It does have a pretty screen, wireless charging... there is lots of reasons you might LOVE this phone, but for ME it is a big huge downgrade from any other "superphone"
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again it's your personal opinion bro.
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I love this phone//N4 FTW \m/
like a boss
Like I said, don't get mad Bro's, why would you all be so defensive ? It's all good.
Lots of people would LOVE this phone, I said it.
When I ordered it said it had OTG on page, that is fraud in some peoples book, I guess you guys don't care, but I was mislead about a very important basic feature, it almost makes the phone useless, I need OTG more than any other single feature.
If you need phone in the outdoors, this isn't the phone for you, if you need it to move files as easy as you can, this isn't a good phone, if you need lots of battery power, this isnt the phone.
There is lots of reason this may be the prefect phone for you, but for me it isn't.
I am pissed about the cheap construction and the OTG thing, and no headset, those I didin't know when I ordered original.
Your so brainwashed you want to ban someone that isn't agreeing with you ? little hitlers are you ?
What a geeky forum this is, I am not insulting your girlfriend or mom, or yoru race or anything worth getting mad about, I am saying this phone is a big bummer for me all around and I voiced my concerns. You can't handle the debate as you can't really explain why a SD , removable battery, OTG, and a less likely to crack phone isn't good for any usefull reason other than someone has told you it feels better, cloud storage is better and you are find with one battery.
Ok, I guess I am a revoultioanry compared to the sheep around here, I am just being rational. You are not.
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wow this exact same thread was just closed and now he makes the exact same one with different title. No need to reply this is a troll and this thread will be closed too. Hopefully he will be banned too.
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wow, ban someone for not liking their new phone ? That sounds like something a troll would enjoy doing, or Hitler might have, silence the critics scotty, we can't let the bad news out, kill them all ! Black debates where you can't win you just say something like someome is a troll. You are a insecure dude, get a life, it is just a consumer device.
But you have already made these points and have had a thread closed, so why post it again? You lose credibility then and most of your issues are quite subjective to say the least. And to top it off, no headset? What, you mean no cheap tacky headset that is usually replaced by a much better one by the user, isn't included in this phone which is pretty much atleast £100 ($150 to $200) below the cost of other similar phones? And that is an issue? hahaha ok!
they closed my thread because it was in the Q+A forum, fair enough, so I put it in the general forum.
Nothing offensive about my posts of anything, your just mad that I think of this rationally and not like some fairy tale.
I see lots of posts of people complaining about their phones for others to learn from.
It was the people here that convinced me to buy this and not the S2x for $140 less in price, so I wanted to say why I wasn't happy in the end.
This phones isn't as useful to me than others and I said why.
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But you have already made these points and have had a thread closed, so why post it again? You lose credibility then and most of your issues are quite subjective to say the least. And to top it off, no headset? What, you mean no cheap tacky headset that is usually replaced by a much better one by the user, isn't included in this phone which is pretty much atleast £100 ($150 to $200) below the cost of other similar phones? And that is an issue? hahaha ok!
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No thats the thing it is $150 US more expensive that a comparable and for ME a much more usefull phone the SSGS2x with 1.5 gig pro, 1 gig memory, OTG !!!!!, NFC, SD CARD STORAGE !!!!, removable battery, Mass Storage Mode, and many other things that make it FAR better than the N4 For ME for WORK and TRAVEL. I don't watch movies or play games.
Your issues are of course valid but could have easily gone in any off the numerous threads already posted, especially considering none of your issues are unique in any way shape or form. In fact most of them are pretty obvious from just looking at the spec sheet.
Mmmmmmm you had me at beer and Jerky
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OMG dude you forgot:
-> doesn't have LTE
-> new ones aren't glittery
-> google can't keep up with demand and/or LG sucks at manufacturing
-> power button is too hard to reach
seriously go buy a phone you like if you hate this one so much.
Why post such a negative impression
Seems like your thoughts belong in another thread. Love the phone.
Performance is terrific and so open and easy to try new things.'
Got to love the abilty to tweak and play.
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wow, ban someone for not liking their new phone ? That sounds like something a troll would enjoy doing, or Hitler might have, silence the critics scotty, we can't let the bad news out, kill them all ! Black debates where you can't win you just say something like someome is a troll. You are a insecure dude, get a life, it is just a consumer device.
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for trolling, which is what you are doing. Everything you wrote has been said here many times before, you are not discussing anything new. If you are such a rational thinker then why did you buy this phone when there are so many problems with it? Blaming xda because you bought this phone and are not happy with it makes you the sheep.
I would have to agree with the above statement.
I hope the N5 will bring back the things I mentioned I like, its frustrating with new stuff, one step forward, two sideways, one back...
Otherwise, I admit is a beauty in the hand, fast as hell, pretty to look at, I love vanila android.
Here is another thing I LOVE about this phone - for some reason on my cheap proxy browsing with speak out 711 $10 a month, all my apps are working right out of the box, I don't know why, but it made my cheap browsing only plan unlimited data.