Att variant unlocked for Tmobile- poor experience - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Forgive me if this should be in the T-Mobile or AT&T forum for the phone.
I bought a used note 8 that was an AT&T variant. I was on cricket, I inserted my sim card and it worked fine,however I should have called AT&T to see if this could be unlocked....because they wouldn't unlock it.
I used an unlocking company on the web and it works now, but I'm traveling places where this phone should work , mostly rural, and it isnt.
Tmobile hasn't been of much help . I've read on Reddit a suggestion to flash the Tmobile software to the phone to get full functionality on their network. I've also read it will never be possible to achieve that without a Tmobile Note8 or unlocked version.
Can anyone comment on this, is this necessary?
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cfclay said:
Forgive me if this should be in the T-Mobile or AT&T forum for the phone.
About a used note 8 that was an AT&T variant. I was on cricket, I inserted my sim card and it worked fine,however I should have called AT&T to see if this could be unlocked....because the wouldn't unlock it.
I used an unlocking company on the web and it works now, but I'm traveling places where this phone should work , mostly rural, and it isnt.
Tmobile hasn't been of much help . I've read on Reddit a suggestion to flash the Tmobile software to the phone to get full functionality on their network. I've also read it will never be possible to achieve that without a Tmobile Note8 or unlocked version.
Can anyone comment on this, is this necessary?
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What update is the phone on? Should be like N950USQUXXXXX
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FatalONEM8 said:
What update is the phone on? Should be like N950USQUXXXXX
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Baseband version
N950USQU3CRC2
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Baseband version
N950USQU3CRC2
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Do you have a T-Mobile SIM? That new update has the BYOD feature to change the software according to the SIM carrier.
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Do you have a T-Mobile SIM? That new update has the BYOD feature to change the software according to the SIM carrier.
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Yes, I am using T mobile now. It did change some parts of the software, for instance when I Reboot, you will get the t-mobile symbol on the screen for just a half second and the T-Mobile jingle, then the pattern unlock will show.
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cfclay said:
Yes, I am using T mobile now. It did change some parts of the software, for instance when I Reboot, you will get the t-mobile symbol on the screen for just a half second and the T-Mobile jingle, then the pattern unlock will show.
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Ok so then what's the problem? Seems like it's running T-Mobile software now.
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I'm guessing he isn't getting service in places he should be

ZerosMadness said:
I'm guessing he isn't getting service in places he should be
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Right. I'm traveling with a work phone and Tmobile website shows towns where I should have signal. I was getting mostly band 12 in those rural areas. I dont know much about tmobile bands and frequencies but I'm trying to determine if there's bands this phone won't pick up. I've also picked up bands 2,3,4.
When I wasn't getting a signal or a signal I could use- it appeared I always had bars,probably AT&T.
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Right. I'm traveling with a work phone and Tmobile website shows towns where I should have signal. I was getting mostly band 12 in those rural areas. I dont know much about tmobile bands and frequencies but I'm trying to determine if there's bands this phone won't pick up. I've also picked up bands 2,3,4.
When I wasn't getting a signal or a signal I could use- it appeared I always had bars,probably AT&T.
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Were the apn settings set correctly if it did them by itself? My AT&T note 8 doesn't get AT&T service where AT&T says I should. The maps are often times lying. I live out of town a little ways(roughly 10 minutes out) and the map says 4g but I get 1 bar of 4g at less than 3g speeds. And I'm in the middle of the color coat. Also our phones have the same bands as all the other games models and even American cdma models I believe. The AT&T varient supports T-Mobiles 600mhz as well. From what I was told.

U models should all be the same hardware wise, they should all support the frequencies used by US carriers. That's the reason why they changed to U models, for compatibility, all that's different is the firmware. Gone are the days when each US carrier had their own models, ie T (TMB), A (ATT), V (VWZ), P (SPR). Best to flash carrier's firmware. Many people buy or flash unlocked variants/firmware because of less bloat but you may loose specific carrier features that you can't enable without root.
For T-Mobile, bands are 2, 4, 12, & 71 but Note 8s do not support the new 71 band. T-Mobile is also said to use 66 which the Note 8 supports but I have never seen my phone connect to B66 though. But I have a F on T-Mobile. B66 said is said to be an extension of B4.
In my area B4 is the main band I'm connected to & is the fastest. B12 is usually second & in areas with less cell density where reception is not a good or inside buildings as it's a lower frequency & penetrates walls better (sort of like what B71 is for). B12 is usually slow for me. I've never seen my phone connected to B2 though. I have seen B31 pop up when CA is active but that doesn't make sense since T-Mobile does use B31.

Thanks! I don't do this much, where's the latest firmware?
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U models should all be the same hardware wise, they should all support the frequencies used by US carriers. That's the reason why they changed to U models, for compatibility, all that's different is the firmware. Gone are the days when each US carrier had their own models, ie T (TMB), A (ATT), V (VWZ), P (SPR). Best to flash carrier's firmware. Many people buy or flash unlocked variants/firmware because of less bloat but you may loose specific carrier features that you can't enable without root.
For T-Mobile, bands are 2, 4, 12, & 71 but Note 8s do not support the new 71 band. T-Mobile is also said to use 66 which the Note 8 supports but I have never seen my phone connect to B66 though. But I have a F on T-Mobile. B66 said is said to be an extension of B4.
In my area B4 is the main band I'm connected to & is the fastest. B12 is usually second & in areas with less cell density where reception is not a good or inside buildings as it's a lower frequency & penetrates walls better (sort of like what B71 is for). B12 is usually slow for me. I've never seen my phone connected to B2 though. I have seen B31 pop up when CA is active but that doesn't make sense since T-Mobile does use B31.
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shouren04 said:
U models should all be the same hardware wise, they should all support the frequencies used by US carriers. That's the reason why they changed to U models, for compatibility, all that's different is the firmware. Gone are the days when each US carrier had their own models, ie T (TMB), A (ATT), V (VWZ), P (SPR). Best to flash carrier's firmware. Many people buy or flash unlocked variants/firmware because of less bloat but you may loose specific carrier features that you can't enable without root.
For T-Mobile, bands are 2, 4, 12, & 71 but Note 8s do not support the new 71 band. T-Mobile is also said to use 66 which the Note 8 supports but I have never seen my phone connect to B66 though. But I have a F on T-Mobile. B66 said is said to be an extension of B4.
In my area B4 is the main band I'm connected to & is the fastest. B12 is usually second & in areas with less cell density where reception is not a good or inside buildings as it's a lower frequency & penetrates walls better (sort of like what B71 is for). B12 is usually slow for me. I've never seen my phone connected to B2 though. I have seen B31 pop up when CA is active but that doesn't make sense since T-Mobile does use B31.
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Is there some way to control the bands you are receiving? I'm on B12 rocking 2 Mbps 500 yards from I-30 in a suburb of Little Rock right now.
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cfclay said:
Is there some way to control the bands you are receiving? I'm on B12 rocking 2 Mbps 500 yards from I-30 in a suburb of Little Rock right now.
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Yes actually and please dont use that app lol, use servicemode *#0011# to change bands type in *#2263# there you can change bands on T-Mobile. On AT&T you have to eject the sim and reboot the phone then type that code in lol.
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cfclay said:
Thanks! I don't do this much, where's the latest firmware?
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This thread should help you.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-sm-n950u-u1-t3685884
cfclay said:
Is there some way to control the bands you are receiving? I'm on B12 rocking 2 Mbps 500 yards from I-30 in a suburb of Little Rock right now.
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Sort of. In the Service Menu you can set preferred bands & you can also disable bands. I don't recommending disabling bands as there really is no point. You can try setting specific bands as preferred but in my experience it's best to just leave it on automatic (stock). Even if you set a specific band as preferred you won't connect to it if it's not available in a certain area anyway.
Don't know if the service menus are the same for Snapdragon but on Exynos it's *#2263# (enter it in the stock Samsung Dialer).
Again best bet is to flash T-Mobile firmware, that way you'll get the correct CA combos (carrier aggregation) & other features like VoLTE, Wifi Calling, etc., then debloat if desired.
Also forget LTE Discovery, Network Cell Info is much better.

Thanks for all the tips, I think I will try this tonight. I do have a total conspiracy theory though....I would swear that today (again traveled in an area where it lost service but the Network Cell Info app showed I was picking up a strong signal on ATT, I think band 3) ...I turned roaming off and it seemed i haven't had any issue since.
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Okay, I have flashed the phone using firmware I downloaded off of SamFirm, see attached. Phone seems no different, but I haven't traveled yet. Some debate I keep reading in forums as to if this is even necessary.
Very frustrating to be pulling in AT&T signal on phone in areas where I know I should be getting TMobile.
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Update: I've traveled 1500 moles all over the state this week and I've backtracked the issue to be this phone will not pick up Tmobiles 700mhz network.
If you look at the app from TMobile called BYOD, you put in your IMEI and it straight up tells you (or at least me) that arent going to get it.
Lots of wasted time this week. Wish we would have known this before I started service.
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Update: I've traveled 1500 moles all over the state this week and I've backtracked the issue to be this phone will not pick up Tmobiles 700mhz network.
If you look at the app from TMobile called BYOD, you put in your IMEI and it straight up tells you (or at least me) that arent going to get it.
Lots of wasted time this week. Wish we would have known this before I started service.
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Type *#2263# and send screenshot here please.
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FatalONEM8 said:
Type *#2263# and send screenshot here please.
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Sending some love your way if you can find a solution.View attachment 4505378
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Sending some love your way if you can find a solution.View attachment 4505378
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Well that's weird... Band 12 looks to be enabled....why dont you try locking to only Band 12 and see what happens. Also I could find out if T-Mobile owns Band 12 spectrum in your market if you tell me what that is.
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[Sprint] Removable sim confirmed!

So the Sprint GS4 has a removable sim like the HTC One.
Frequencies and Data Type LTE: Band 25 (1900MHz); CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev A, Tri-band: 800/850/1900 MHz; HSPA+/UMTS Dual-band: 1900/2100 MHz; GSM Quad-band: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SPH-L720ZWASPR-specs
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Thoughts? Hoping we may get it unlocked for domestic use as well as international.
Looks like Tmobile is out but AT&T should be ok (no LTE obviously)?
Can you explain the relevance of this for a moron like me?
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lafester said:
So the Sprint GS4 has a removable sim like the HTC One.
Frequencies and Data Type LTE: Band 25 (1900MHz); CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev A, Tri-band: 800/850/1900 MHz; HSPA+/UMTS Dual-band: 1900/2100 MHz; GSM Quad-band: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SPH-L720ZWASPR-specs
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-photo-gallery
Thoughts? Hoping we may get it unlocked for domestic use as well as international.
Looks like Tmobile is out but AT&T should be ok (no LTE obviously)?
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Uh what? I assume you're in the wrong sub-section....
Nebbeh said:
Can you explain the relevance of this for a moron like me?
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Sure. With the removable sim you can pop in any international sim you want and use their cheap prepaid rates while travelling.
Another benefit may be to unlock the sim and use at&t prepaid when your sprint service sucks.
Those not in the US may not realize CDMA carriers have not had many GSM radios/sims in the past.
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Uh what? I assume you're in the wrong sub-section....
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This is the GS4 general section correct? Until they break up the forum to carrier this is the right place as far as I know.
i already have a sprint international sim but don't use it often.. nice knowing i can pop it into the S4 and use it overseas if i have to instead of the ancient motorola v600 i have.
this is not to be confused with a sim, it is a uicc just like verizon/metropcs/uscc/cricket use
Although I'm not planning on going out of country it is good to know our phones will be "world" phones.
How do I do this? I'm going out of country next month....
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How do I do this? I'm going out of country next month....
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I would assume you could get a cheap disposable pre-paid in your area of travel, insert and profit? Someone correct me if I'm wrong here but that's the way I would see it.
let me reiterate, this is not a sim. it is a uicc. someone already tried to stick a gsm sim in and set to global and got an invalid sim. this does not mean it isnt a global device, just could be that it is locked permanently, locked to sprint and have to get an unlock code from sprint to unlock it, or would never work in the first place.
regardless it isnt looking great ATM, once more people have teh device and can actually mess with the hidden settings then more info can be found out. but as of now i would not buy this phone based on the premise of using it on gsm, sprint has a pretty piss poor track record with unlocking gsm stuff (ask any photon 4g/photon q owner)
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let me reiterate, this is not a sim. it is a uicc. someone already tried to stick a gsm sim in and set to global and got an invalid sim. this does not mean it isnt a global device, just could be that it is locked permanently, locked to sprint and have to get an unlock code from sprint to unlock it, or would never work in the first place.
regardless it isnt looking great ATM, once more people have teh device and can actually mess with the hidden settings then more info can be found out. but as of now i would not buy this phone based on the premise of using it on gsm, sprint has a pretty piss poor track record with unlocking gsm stuff (ask any photon 4g/photon q owner)
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I got my pin and puk codes when I activated. I think there is also an app for international settings etc but I haven't looked into that yet.
shabbypenguin said:
let me reiterate, this is not a sim. it is a uicc. someone already tried to stick a gsm sim in and set to global and got an invalid sim. this does not mean it isnt a global device, just could be that it is locked permanently, locked to sprint and have to get an unlock code from sprint to unlock it, or would never work in the first place.
regardless it isnt looking great ATM, once more people have teh device and can actually mess with the hidden settings then more info can be found out. but as of now i would not buy this phone based on the premise of using it on gsm, sprint has a pretty piss poor track record with unlocking gsm stuff (ask any photon 4g/photon q owner)
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It's probably SIM locked like the HTC One is. Therefore, you should be able to call Sprint and have them provide you the unlock code, which they normally will if you meet certain criteria. There are several folks on the HTC One forum who have reported they have done so succefully. All this said though, I still expect for the phone not to be able to be GSM operable with US carriers like all Sprint GSM phones have been in the past.
Also, I am pretty sure the original Photon 4G (WiMax) already came SIM unlocked out of the box.
lafester said:
I got my pin and puk codes when I activated. I think there is also an app for international settings etc but I haven't looked into that yet.
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good to know it may be possible
myphone12345 said:
It's probably SIM locked like the HTC One is. Therefore, you should be able to call Sprint and have them provide you the unlock code, which they normally will if you meet certain criteria. There are several folks on the HTC One forum who have reported they have done so succefully. All this said though, I still expect for the phone not to be able to be GSM operable with US carriers like all Sprint GSM phones have been in the past.
Also, I am pretty sure the original Photon 4G (WiMax) already came SIM unlocked out of the box.
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it came unlocked but was limited, the iphone 4s had to be unlocked shortly after launch, the photon q had an embedded sim.
lafester said:
I got my pin and puk codes when I activated. I think there is also an app for international settings etc but I haven't looked into that yet.
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Pin and Puk codes have nothing to do with SIM locking though. Only the carrier and manufacturer have that.
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good to know it may be possible
it came unlocked but was limited...
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What do you mean by "limited"? (Besides disabling inside-US usage, which has always been the case for all Sprint GSM phones; a known policy which I wouldn't expect Sprint to ever change.)
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Pin and Puk codes have nothing to do with SIM locking though. Only the carrier and manufacturer have that.
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What do you mean by "limited"? (Besides disabling inside-US usage, which has always been the case for all Sprint GSM phones; a known policy which I wouldn't expect Sprint to ever change.)
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that is what i am referring to, and no i dont expect them to change either. realistically, a sprint customer doesnt need to use those carriers. but it would be nice to be able to use a photon q on tmobile without having to shred it to bits and solder in a new sim..
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that is what i am referring to, and no i dont expect them to change either. realistically, a sprint customer doesnt need to use those carriers. but it would be nice to be able to use a photon q on tmobile without having to shred it to bits and solder in a new sim..
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Even if you could shred it to bits it would do you no good because Sprint blocks reception of US GSM signals at the radio level. Personally, now that Sprint is back to using removable SIMs, I don't really have that big of an issue with what Sprint is doing with respect to blocking US GSM, as long as they enable international usage with any SIM and, if they SIM lock the device, don't give you too much of a hard time to obtain the unlock code from them so that you can use the device with other carriers if you are outside the US (rather than forcing you to pay their exorbitant international roaming rates).
It should be noted though that in the Sprint S4's case there is actually another related issue where Sprint did something really dumb and annoying which is to disable the UMTS/WCDMA 850 MHz band completely (for use both inside and outside the US) and has done so for apparently no good reason at all. That could cause major issues to folks who wish to use the device in certain places like S. America. However, this is a topic that merits its own separate thread though, which I plan on starting sometime in the next couple weeks after I get more info. on this problem.
lafester said:
So the Sprint GS4 has a removable sim like the HTC One.
Frequencies and Data Type LTE: Band 25 (1900MHz); CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev A, Tri-band: 800/850/1900 MHz; HSPA+/UMTS Dual-band: 1900/2100 MHz; GSM Quad-band: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SPH-L720ZWASPR-specs
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-photo-gallery
Thoughts? Hoping we may get it unlocked for domestic use as well as international.
Looks like Tmobile is out but AT&T should be ok (no LTE obviously)?
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yea, but the big question is can it be unlocked so its not stuck on sprint
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I got my pin and puk codes when I activated. I think there is also an app for international settings etc but I haven't looked into that yet.
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what provider do you have?
myphone12345 said:
Even if you could shred it to bits it would do you no good because Sprint blocks reception of US GSM signals at the radio level. Personally, now that Sprint is back to using removable SIMs, I don't really have that big of an issue with what Sprint is doing with respect to blocking US GSM, as long as they enable international usage with any SIM and, if they SIM lock the device, don't give you too much of a hard time to obtain the unlock code from them so that you can use the device with other carriers if you are outside the US (rather than forcing you to pay their exorbitant international roaming rates).
It should be noted though that in the Sprint S4's case there is actually another related issue where Sprint did something really dumb and annoying which is to disable the UMTS/WCDMA 850 MHz band completely (for use both inside and outside the US) and has done so for apparently no good reason at all. That could cause major issues to folks who wish to use the device in certain places like S. America. However, this is a topic that merits its own separate thread though, which I plan on starting sometime in the next couple weeks after I get more info. on this problem.
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Are we 100 percent sure the UMTS/WCDMA 850 MHz band is blocked?
apologies all around, i was wrong. its not a uicc but a full on sim card
im a big enough man to admit when im wrong

New to the Nexus 4

I'm new to the Nexus 4. I'm coming from the ATT LG Optimus G which I know is pretty much the same phone. But just wasn't for me. I couldn't get LTE at all with that phone no matter what I did. Apn's, build.prop, radio's, hidden menus, nothing gave me LTE. Development was a little lacky since only a few roms are active. A friend of mine told me to just get a Nexus 4, root it, unlock the bootloader, flash a good rom, flash a .33 radio, change the icon on the to get the 4G LTE and you will get LTE since it has AWS. I had an horrible experience converting the LGOG to Nexus 4. I had so much freaking bugs here and there and lost 50 percent performance of the phone. It was a nightmare.
One downside I did notice about the Nexus 4 that both LGOG and Nexus 4 share the same sizescreen,but the Nexus 4 has on screen soft keys and LGOG has dedicated soft buttons which makes the LGOG a plus one on the screen side since it has more room and the screen looks bigger for some apparent reason.
So what do you think guys? Did I make the right choice? I think I did
I think you did.
Why does it matter?
Enjoy the endless options of optimization that the n4 offers you!
To me, yes. For me it's nexus > everything else.
If you wanna take back the soft key part, flash PA and use PIE.
I sold the nexus 4 last night and I bought myself a HTC one.. .... Jk yeah right I fell in love with this phone after unlocking/rooting/flashed my first ROM last night and there are endless ROMs I don't know what to do. Its like a buffet
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I had pie on my lgog using vanilla aokp root box rom and I kept thinking what was pie for since it was utterly useless feature for the lgog. Now it make sense that its meant for the nexus 4.
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Z33type said:
I'm new to the Nexus 4. I'm coming from the ATT LG Optimus G which I know is pretty much the same phone. But just wasn't for me. I couldn't get LTE at all with that phone no matter what I did. Apn's, build.prop, radio's, hidden menus, nothing gave me LTE. Development was a little lacky since only a few roms are active. A friend of mine told me to just get a Nexus 4, root it, unlock the bootloader, flash a good rom, flash a .33 radio, change the icon on the to get the 4G LTE and you will get LTE since it has AWS. I had an horrible experience converting the LGOG to Nexus 4. I had so much freaking bugs here and there and lost 50 percent performance of the phone. It was a nightmare.
One downside I did notice about the Nexus 4 that both LGOG and Nexus 4 share the same sizescreen,but the Nexus 4 has on screen soft keys and LGOG has dedicated soft buttons which makes the LGOG a plus one on the screen side since it has more room and the screen looks bigger for some apparent reason.
So what do you think guys? Did I make the right choice? I think I did
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does tmobile have lte up in your area? if it doesnt, there nothing you can do thatll give you lte.
I don't believe the nexus 4 has a lte chip in it anyways. So even if T-Mobile had lte don't think it picks it up due to the fact the phone has to have a lte chip to connect. I'm pretty sure Google didn't put one in ....unless its there jus not activated. But I don't think so.
Lockrings//Softkeys//GlowDots...and much more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40240608
In terms of LTE support on ATT, you might you might not get it depending on the coverage area band/s ATT LTE runs in your area. N4 only has AWS 4 band LTE, so if ATT doesn't have that in your area, you can switch to Tmo which does support AWS 4. Check out the ALL LTE & Tmo threads to find out more.
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I don't believe the nexus 4 has a lte chip in it anyways. So even if T-Mobile had lte don't think it picks it up due to the fact the phone has to have a lte chip to connect. I'm pretty sure Google didn't put one in ....unless its there jus not activated. But I don't think so.
Lockrings//Softkeys//GlowDots...and much more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40240608
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tmobile lte on my nexus 4 in queens, ny. the n4 does have a lte chip, but its not officially there since the lte chip was never approved by the fcc. so google disabled lte in the latest radio. but, with an older radio, you can use lte.
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Be sure to reflash the entire stock ROM via fast boot alone (then flash whatever ROM you want). I got an extra 1.5 hours screen on time doing that. No idea why...just a suggestion if you're struggling to get 3 hours screen on time daily (like I was). I now average 4 hours screen on time daily.
I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
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I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
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If you can wait....definitely wait it out. Operative word being....if.
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does tmobile have lte up in your area? if it doesnt, there nothing you can do thatll give you lte.
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I'm with T-Mobile,but Ive been always a fan on AT&T Phones since they always have better mid level phones than T-Mobile. I use to have the ATT Motorola Atrix HD unlocked. I slap my sim card on that and didn't even have to change any APN settings. Immediately picked up LTE. And to answer your question. Yes we have LTE in Phoenix, AZ.
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In terms of LTE support on ATT, you might you might not get it depending on the coverage area band/s ATT LTE runs in your area. N4 only has AWS 4 band LTE, so if ATT doesn't have that in your area, you can switch to Tmo which does support AWS 4. Check out the ALL LTE & Tmo threads to find out more.
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I've been on that thread. I was directed to that thread on the ATT LGOG section. We have LTE in Phoenix,AZ. I should have stated that the phone was unlocked for any sim and me being a T-Mobile customer and all.
Either way for now T-Mobile is kicking ATT's butt in LTE coverage and speeds,but I also heard that ATT are investing over a billion not millions,but billions of dollars into towers and boosting up their LTE speeds.
Not that LTE really matters,but just a nice feature to have and LGOG was not supporting T-Mobile LTE's bands.
Here is a screenshot of my LTE on my Nexus. " Note that the 4G is really LTE on the Nexus 4" I changed the icon and used the LTE settings from the market. Shows that I have LTE on the network type.
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I'm with T-Mobile,but Ive been always a fan on AT&T Phones since they always have better mid level phones than T-Mobile. I use to have the ATT Motorola Atrix HD unlocked. I slap my sim card on that and didn't even have to change any APN settings. Immediately picked up LTE. And to answer your question. Yes we have LTE in Phoenix, AZ.
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on the nexus 4 you have to change the apn. it doesnt come with default lte apn settings.
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I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
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Sell the Amaze and get the Nexus 4 and call it a day. Nexus 4 are cheap if you score one on Craigslist. I bought mine for 250 dollars semi new 16gb unlocked already from Craigslist. Seller bought it from Google Play store and she didn't like it. She was a apple fan girl. Only sad part that is I had to drive 20 miles to pick it up. WORTH IT!
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on the nexus 4 you have to change the apn. it doesnt come with default lte apn settings.
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Whatever APN settings I put on my LGOG was backed up by google and transfered to my Nexus when I logged on to my google account.
fast.t-mobile.com and all other proxy, ipv's mmsc. has been transfered over.
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Whatever APN settings I put on my LGOG was backed up by google and transfered to my Nexus when I logged on to my google account.
fast.t-mobile.com and all other proxy, ipv's mmsc. has been transfered over.
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oh cool. then you need either the .33 radio or .27. also, theres a build.prop edit you need and an edit for sound during calls(ill link a flashable), and you need to change the phone/radio to lte/gsm.
flash this, it should take care of the build.peop edit and in call sound https://www.box.com/s/h16b3wlrq8op6us7ifsv
Beat you to it already with the .33 radio as you can see on the previous posts that I posted a screenshot of my lte. But the in call sound I shall do but so far I am not experiencing any bugs with the in calls on the .33 radio.
.27 radio doesn't lock so well on the GPS as the .33 does. Wish the .48 had lte and also wish that developers can play with radios but its illegal to even hack radios to begin with.
Now my next issue is. I remember seeing a site or thread somewhere on how to make lte stick even on after booting. I keep having keep changing the prefer network as it sticks to wcdma every boot.
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Reading your first post, I thought u were gonna somehow flash Optimus G firmware onto the Nexus 4 to get LTE under ATT.
I'm glad you got it working under T-Mobile LTE.

Running the S4 Active on T-Mobile, anything else I should do?

Hi all.
I have been using my AT&T S4 Active on T-Mobile for the past week. I got it unlocked via an eBay seller and everything has been working great thus far. I had a question though regarding bands and whether or not all the bands available to me are unlocked. Right now where I live I pick up 4G/LTE (although not as strong in my apartment and cuts in and out periodically). I had read that when you unlock a phone via the code it automatically unlocks the bands that were previously not available (when locked to AT&T). Another thread I read that the user has to still unlock those bands. I was hoping someone could clarify this and point me in the right direction! Thanks guys!
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Hi all.
I have been using my AT&T S4 Active on T-Mobile for the past week. I got it unlocked via an eBay seller and everything has been working great thus far. I had a question though regarding bands and whether or not all the bands available to me are unlocked. Right now where I live I pick up 4G/LTE (although not as strong in my apartment and cuts in and out periodically). I had read that when you unlock a phone via the code it automatically unlocks the bands that were previously not available (when locked to AT&T). Another thread I read that the user has to still unlock those bands. I was hoping someone could clarify this and point me in the right direction! Thanks guys!
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Are you able to use mobile data with only unlocking the phone? I am about to buy this phone but i heard after unlocking only call/sms will work and not data.
I read here that for data we need to do other stuff
This phone says " LTE Bands 2, 4, 5 and 17" on AT&T website and I'm wondering if this phone will work on other carriers LTE network(T-Mobile, Verizon, or others?)? I know Verizon is CDMA and at&t and T-Mobile are GSM but can anyone answer this?
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This phone says " LTE Bands 2, 4, 5 and 17" on AT&T website and I'm wondering if this phone will work on other carriers LTE network(T-Mobile, Verizon, or others?)? I know Verizon is CDMA and at&t and T-Mobile are GSM but can anyone answer this?
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I got the AT&T SGH-i537 model. Pay $15 to have it unlock. Now using it with T-mobile. I got LTE. In some area, I got 23mbps download and 3.6mbps upload. It doubled my Galaxy Nexus speed. The device status info said I am on LTE:14
However, my mobile tethering is disabled. Need to find a way to enable that. Stupid AT&T lock it.
As long as you have the correct setting input into your phone your data will work ( assuming you have a data plan). I remember when the original Iphone came out I unlocked it for T-mobile and had internet on it even though it was branded AT&T only. (EDGE lol 56kb speed) but still it worked...
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I unlocked mine with ATT and used it with TMobile while I was in Hawaii. I only had to put my SIM in and I got pretty fast speeds (around 22mbps from what I remember) I don't know if that's the normal speed but compared to the crappy speeds on Guam it was lightening speeds to me! No root or anything needed, no difference after rooting either.
i can confirm it works minus teathering due to att
This is interesting as I thought ATT phones cannot receive Tmobiles LTE.
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Does this phone get T Mobiles HSPA+?
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Avail211 said:
I unlocked mine with ATT and used it with TMobile while I was in Hawaii. I only had to put my SIM in and I got pretty fast speeds (around 22mbps from what I remember) I don't know if that's the normal speed but compared to the crappy speeds on Guam it was lightening speeds to me! No root or anything needed, no difference after rooting either.
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tmobile hspa + can get up to 42mbps so that sounds about right.
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Modems N910T on AT&T

Does the N910T have the same modem as the N910A?
Does anyone have the flashable zips of both modems? I want to see if using the T-Mobile modem effects the LTE speed on AT&T network.
Thanks!
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Does the N910T have the same modem as the N910A?
Does anyone have the flashable zips of both modems? I want to see if using the T-Mobile modem effects the LTE speed on AT&T network.
Thanks!
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I'd be curious about this as well. I have an unlocked TMo on AT&T - LTE worked great but now I can only get HSPA+ and AT&T claims my phone registers as a Blackberry. Very frustrating.
Mine just stayed acting funny last night. It will only get 4G which is really actually 3g. I have the AT&T version as well. It will only get 4G also now. They might have did something to my Sim, who knows.
OK o just called att and they also said I had a blackberry as my phone. The difference is I have both versions (AT&T and T-Mobile) so when I called I was using the att version. They still couldn't get lte on the att version. Wtf
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OK o just called att and they also said I had a blackberry as my phone. The difference is I have both versions (AT&T and T-Mobile) so when I called I was using the att version. They still couldn't get lte on the att version. Wtf
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How r u verifying that u are only getting 4G and not LTE?
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How r u verifying that u are only getting 4G and not LTE?
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Because it says 4g and not LTE. I'm on dynamic ROM so icons are correct. Also was only getting 2mbs download. It also said HSPA in settings under status. Also AT&T said it was a blackberry on my account which is setup different then regular LTE (there words). But don't matter I got it fixed with AY&T for now.
On top of all this I didn't just jump to conclusions. After all the problems I odined back, tried kernel, tried modem. Then add a last resort I put my son back into my AT&T note 4(yes I have both) and had ZERO data because of my account. That's what spaked the phone call to AT&T.
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Because it says 4g and not LTE. I'm on dynamic ROM so icons are correct. Also was only getting 2mbs download. It also said HSPA in settings under status. Also AT&T said it was a blackberry on my account which is setup different then regular LTE (there words). But don't matter I got it fixed with AY&T for now.
On top of all this I didn't just jump to conclusions. After all the problems I odined back, tried kernel, tried modem. Then add a last resort I put my son back into my AT&T note 4(yes I have both) and had ZERO data because of my account. That's what spaked the phone call to AT&T.
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Just wanted to make sure I was verifying the signal in the same way. I am getting LTE though. Just seemed slow. I checked the speed with the same Sim card on my note 2 and the speed was so not great. I believe AT&T is working on the network in my city though and that's why speed are show where I am.
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Yeah there having issuers here in Naples to and created a trouble ticket. I've never had really good speeds anyways even on the real AT&T version. Samsung radios dont have the strength of a iPhone which sucks really because everything else beats the iPhone except download speeds and reception. (Thoroughly tested this with a buddy that is addicted to iPhone the way I'm addicted to Samsung phones for the last few years)
I lost LTE today on both my note 4 and g3.
Can't get it back no matter what I try.
Sounds like APN issue or Sim card issue. I have a T-Mobile Note 4 on ATT and I've had LTE the whole time...no problems. I did get a new Sim because I was using a nano Sim with adapter. 2g 3g 4g works fine as well. I'm in SW Missouri and my phone shows as a note 4.
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donharden2002 said:
I lost LTE today on both my note 4 and g3.
Can't get it back no matter what I try.
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Make the call.
I have the T-Mobile Variant on AT&T no issues here. I get LTE all the time. I'm still using stock rom.
I still have lte but my phone does show up as a blackberry when I login to myatt. I did not get a new sim card
ElAguila said:
I still have lte but my phone does show up as a blackberry when I login to myatt. I did not get a new sim card
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In my experience with this if ATT has the actual IEMI of the off network device you will only get HSPA/HSPA+ at best. It does not matter what your APN settings are and this can only be fixed by providing an IEMI of a device that was sold with AT&T access from the start.
I made a mistake and provided the IEMI (at the time an unlocked MetroPCS S5) and could not get LTE. I told them that I was switching devices and provided the IEMI of my HTC One M8. After rebooting, LTE came back with good speeds again.
This is one reason why as a tinkerer I prefer AT&T over VZW. Verizon will refuse to activate a non VZW device. AT&T's official word is they will allow it but cannot guarantee speed or reliability. In my experience, however using a TMO or other GSM device with them has been fine.
EDIT:
Just logged in to MyATT and mine is showing up as "Samsung SM-N910T".
All I did was insert a sim card from one of my other devices. I'm using a nano sim to micro adapter as well. It's a PIA however I have an M8 and iphone6 which are both nano devices. I'm surprised that Samsung is still using micro sim cards!
I logged in this morning and mine is now showing as 910T as well. I still have LTE.
Not to hijack the thread, but those of you using TMO's Note 4 on AT&T, is your LTE reception good?
And flashing a different carrier's modem on a device could mess up the IMEI number.
MattMJB0188 said:
Not to hijack the thread, but those of you using TMO's Note 4 on AT&T, is your LTE reception good?
And flashing a different carrier's modem on a device could mess up the IMEI number.
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my brother has tmobile note 4 and we use same provider here in india a wiered issue he is facing , he dsnt gets internet working though we have same apn but mine works fine ....enormous reboots and thousand time restting apn but no use...internet \works but its not sure it will work for 5 mins or 10 mins and signals go away ...and we dont have 4g where i live but whenever it connects it never show h or h+ it shows 4g ...i have tried allmost all roms ( except the ported one) but same results....
anyhelp would be highly appreciated
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Hello,
I just bought the ATT note 4 but still it is not yet on my hands.......I saw that this device has many bands but as I am using t-mobile sim I would like to enable the aws band .......as someone did in this video using a different device ,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb0iCtG4T6I
any help?
thanks
I recently got an n910T for use on AT&T and just stuck my sim card in. I get LTE, but it's slow, like around 6MB down, so more like HSPA speeds. My phone does not show a model on the AT&T website. Should I call AT&T to register my IMEI? The main problem might be that my phone wants to always stay on band 2 even when I am in a signal area with much stronger band 17 (-110dB vs -85dB). When I am at work, in a metal building with AT&T repeaters, it stays on band 17 which is all that is available, so I know it can do band 17, it just does not want to.

Is T-Mo Note 4 best option for AT&T if you want root?

So the AT&T Note 4 is locked down pretty good. Is the T-Mobile version the best version to get to use on AT&T for somebody who wants root? It looks like it has all of the HSPA and LTE bands, so it should work perfectly. Are any of the international versions better options than the T-Mobile version?
Or is T-Mobile the best one for AT&T? Thanks.
Tmo note 4 works great on AT&T. I buy all my phones from Tmo to use on AT&T.
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Tmo note 4 works great on AT&T. I buy all my phones from Tmo to use on AT&T.
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How do you buy them? Can you just walk into a T-Mobile store and buy one even with no T-Mobile account?
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I bought the phone. It was a bit of a process but easy. You have to have a service plan for them to sell you one. So I signed up for the phone and the cheapest plan they would get me. Then went home and called Tmobile customer care and paid the balance of the phone off. Then went to cellunlocker and got an unlock code. Then for the next day or so I used it on AT&T to make sure it had no problems. Then I called up Tmobile and canceled my plan with them.
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I have both AT&T and t mobile note 4. If you want root, you already know what you have to do. The only issue I have ran into is my t mobile version shows up as a blackberry on AT&T network. Took multiple calls to get LTE working correctly. They had to switch my number to a tri band (there verbage not mine) to properly get LTE, even though it still shows up as a RIM device. The fastest LTE I've had in my area is 32mbs with a iPhone next to me getting 64mbs, but also that's not comparing apples to apples (pun intended). But the iPhone also had a stronger radio inside compared to samsung.
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I have both AT&T and t mobile note 4. If you want root, you already know what you have to do. The only issue I have ran into is my t mobile version shows up as a blackberry on AT&T network. Took multiple calls to get LTE working correctly. They had to switch my number to a tri band (there verbage not mine) to properly get LTE, even though it still shows up as a RIM device. The fastest LTE I've had in my area is 32mbs with a iPhone next to me getting 64mbs, but also that's not comparing apples to apples (pun intended). But the iPhone also had a stronger radio inside compared to samsung.
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Hey Sandman7793, if you dont mind, could you please explain how exactly you got AT&T to make the changes in order for you to get LTE working on your Tmobile Note 4? I mean did you have to speak to multiple reps on the same phone call? Reason I ask is becuase I had a Tmobile Note 3 and was only getting HSPA using AT&T and when I called they gave me a hard time saying that I couldnt get LTE becuase I was using an unlocked device. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks!
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Hey Sandman7793, if you dont mind, could you please explain how exactly you got AT&T to make the changes in order for you to get LTE working on your Tmobile Note 4? I mean did you have to speak to multiple reps on the same phone call? Reason I ask is becuase I had a Tmobile Note 3 and was only getting HSPA using AT&T and when I called they gave me a hard time saying that I couldnt get LTE becuase I was using an unlocked device. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks!
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Well the trick was I bought the AT&T version of the note 4 before I bought the t-mobile one. So when I called I had my sim card in the AT&T one when I called. Lol. I have my spare note 4 in the drawer just lying around. When I called they was like, do you have a blackberry, I said no, do people actually use those anymore. Since I have my note on the next program they was like OK no problem. Then they said, is your phone for AT&T network, I said it better be because I bought it from you. Then I rebooted the phone so they could hear the AT&T boot up sound. They had me put in a new APN setting, still no LTE (on the AT&T phone at that) so they escalated the case over to someone else and changed a bunch of settings on there end. Then said maybe they had LTE issues in my area, I said nope I have a iPhone sitting next to me with full LTE. By the time I hung up, the AT&T note 4 had zero LTE and the t-mobile had full LTE, which still till this day I have no clue how that worked out. It still shows a blackberry on my account, but here was my speed earlier so it don't matter to me what the show.
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Well the trick was I bought the AT&T version of the note 4 before I bought the t-mobile one. So when I called I had my sim card in the AT&T one when I called. Lol. I have my spare note 4 in the drawer just lying around. When I called they was like, do you have a blackberry, I said no, do people actually use those anymore. Since I have my note on the next program they was like OK no problem. Then they said, is your phone for AT&T network, I said it better be because I bought it from you. Then I rebooted the phone so they could hear the AT&T boot up sound. They had me put in a new APN setting, still no LTE (on the AT&T phone at that) so they escalated the case over to someone else and changed a bunch of settings on there end. Then said maybe they had LTE issues in my area, I said nope I have a iPhone sitting next to me with full LTE. By the time I hung up, the AT&T note 4 had zero LTE and the t-mobile had full LTE, which still till this day I have no clue how that worked out. It still shows a blackberry on my account, but here was my speed earlier so it don't matter to me what the show.
Did you have a chance to test speeds in your area with both phones connected to both carriers? I am going through a dilemma right now as to which carrier I should choose to go with.
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Actually no. TMO stays on the edge network where I live. It's not even worth the hassle to use there network, at lest for me. But for the sake of argument I will grab it out of drawer tonight and do the rest after I get off work.
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Actually no. TMO stays on the edge network where I live. It's not even worth the hassle to use there network, at lest for me. But for the sake of argument I will grab it out of drawer tonight and do the rest after I get off work.
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ok fair enough. I am seeing hits and misses with speedtests on both. Hard to decide right now.
i"m using the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T and getting great performance. NO issues with anything, yet lol. Love running custom roms.
yes it is, Mine is on Tmobile( white) unlocked and it is rooted and i'm using it on ATT(sim card from work) i get full speed LTE and one of samsung best yet. other variants are not that great
T-Mobile Note 4 still shows as Blackberry
TheUndertaker21 said:
yes it is, Mine is on Tmobile( white) unlocked and it is rooted and i'm using it on ATT(sim card from work) i get full speed LTE and one of samsung best yet. other variants are not that great
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I went to change my data plan today, finally giving up Unlimited because it was $50 cheaper to go Mobile Share route. In the process I noticed my new TM Note 4 showed up as a Blackberry 7100 and during the online plan change it wouldn't let me do it saying something about an incompatible phone. I reloaded the Sim back in my Note 2, called CS, had then change the plan and of course it now shows a "Smartphone" for my Note 2.
So, I suppose as soon as I change me SIM back to the Note 4 it'll send them the IMEI and change the phone designation back to Blackberry, thusly kicking me off LTE.
Can other enlighten me as what steps to take when/if that happens? Since it's a Note 2, not Note 4, I can't take the approach quite the same as the OP.
What to do? Anyone?
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I went to change my data plan today, finally giving up Unlimited because it was $50 cheaper to go Mobile Share route. In the process I noticed my new TM Note 4 showed up as a Blackberry 7100 and during the online plan change it wouldn't let me do it saying something about an incompatible phone. I reloaded the Sim back in my Note 2, called CS, had then change the plan and of course it now shows a "Smartphone" for my Note 2.
So, I suppose as soon as I change me SIM back to the Note 4 it'll send them the IMEI and change the phone designation back to Blackberry, thusly kicking me off LTE.
Can other enlighten me as what steps to take when/if that happens? Since it's a Note 2, not Note 4, I can't take the approach quite the same as the OP.
What to do? Anyone?
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Mine shows as a blackberry also, but after they activated tri-band on my account for my line, all is good with full service.
AT&T used to have two places to store imei. One is dynamic and shows device that is currently on their network and the other is somewhere permanently in the database and is imei used to register account. Second (permanent) one determines whether you get LTE. It was like that year ago when I parted with post paid plans. May be they changed it since. So you must make them replace the permanent db imei to get LTE. Best way to do it is to call them with valid AT&T LTE capable device imei and tell them that it's what you use now.
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My AT&T account shows a flip phone for my TMO Note 4! LOL! Everything is fine and working though so I dont care.
I run my T-Mobile Note 4 on "Cricket Wireless" which uses AT&T towers w/ a reduced cost (based on your needs of course).. Data, ect...
Very pleased & things work 100%!
I even figured out how to 'edit' build.prop per the "Root & Recovery" thread to give me official "cricket" initial confirmation readout in status upon waking phone along with AT&T tower indicators as opposed to T-Mobile's!
I bet Hotspot will not work on ATT when you use T-mobile phone.
I bet Wifi calling will not work on ATT network too.
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I bet Hotspot will not work on ATT when you use T-mobile phone.
I bet Wifi calling will not work on ATT network too.
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Hotspot works great. Actually It works even better, becuase ATT can't track the usage on a Tmobile phone so even without root or doing anything special the wifi hotspot works right out of the box.
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