When I see my friend use his one Plus 5 something, I find it so fascinating how snappy it is.
Why can't Nexus 6 also stay snappy by only sticking to bare minimum application? The CPU and GPU can't be that slow to handle menial tasks such as WhatsApp and browsing yet my phone feels laggy.
Firefox lags so much so does switching between apps after not clearing up the RAM which gives slight improvements until it starts to get filled up again.
Does it mean I'm doing something wrong with my phone?
My N6 is fine. When was the last time you clean flashed? if internal storage is nearly full, then that can contribute also.
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
no encryption, a good old stock rom with the right kernel optimized for your daily usage, no social media app eating ram usage and constantly waking up your phone every 2 minutes, a fstrim every week + cleaning from time to time cache and data. ANy other idea ?
Complete device wipe. Install Nitrogen 8.1.
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I'm wondering if there's something I can do/change to get more time with continual use out of a full battery.
After 4 hours of web browsing, my battery is down to 40%.
I'm on cm7 7.1 with 6/30 kernel
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I have the brightness turned down really low and I've used the battery callibration app, a few times.
No problems with deep sleep- just looking to get more time from continual use.
Any ideas?
Do you run an auto-task killer app? Because if so you're trading very short term memory savings for a boat load of processor time. Ever since Froyo, and especially Gingerbread, Google made significant changes to the idle-memory allocation management and active-process management logic. All task-killers accomplish in 2.2+ is wasting processor time because 90% of the time android will immediately(depending on the app's historic use and prioritization) restart said app thinking there was some sort of critical failure. (you can check for your self, get the app "System info pro", and preform a kill. For the next 10-15 minutes you'll watch nearly all of the killed processes return to life, and re-assume their use of active/idle ram.
Example: You have 20% ram available, not idle mind you, and the app you've chosen to run needs 35%. First android will prioritize and organize all of the idle apps(which reside in idle ram, kind of like a really big stepping stone between oblivion and active status), and start purging from the bottom-up. Continuing till there's enough free'd memory to launch. Android also has the option of clearing/shrinking assets as a last resort before playing the guessing game as to which active apps aren't important. I don't exactly know what conditions need to be met in order for an app to achieve active(more-protected) status, rather than idle, but it's fairly good at figuring it out, or android wouldn't be so godly at multi-tasking.
A little long-winded comment, but I don't prefer giving advice and backing it up with because I said so logic.
TL;DR For 2.2+ don't use Auto-task killers, they gorge on your precious mA/hr's. Use something like "System info pro" or any comparable app to singly kill, or a pre-setup batch kill, apps as you experience issues.
Other than that, my only advice for battery life would be to not have apps you don't regularly use installed. If they're not installed they can't second-hand or tertiary-hand waste power.
In all reality, most if not all further battery/CPU efficiency increases will come from the hard work put in by Dalingrin/verygreen/murdok to increase hardware optimization for our version of android/kernel. (I know there's more key players, just can't think of them off hand)
Woot- I'm not using a task killer app, but thanks anyway for the info!
It sounds like people.are getting better results that I am with heavier use (videos, gaming, etc.) , so I'm trying to figure out where I'm going wrong.
Are there any settings that I can change that might help?
I'm more familiar with iPhone battery saving settings- where themes and push email eat lots of battery.
Is that the same case with android?
How much do widgets impact battery life? I don't think I have alot- but maybe there are some that eat more battery than others?
I know your first post said while web browsing but when you aren't using data you can turn off wifi to save power. Like when playing a game or watching a video from emmc/sd.
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Other than that, my only advice for battery life would be to not have apps you don't regularly use installed. If they're not installed they can't second-hand or tertiary-hand waste power
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Is there a way to find out which apps do this?
Hi. Im a noob i know. I checked the forums. But i did not find what i was looking for.
So. Its really annoying, everytime i clear my ram then in less than 15 seconds its full again. Which drains my battery and takes ages to charge. With this i get overheating. My battery heats ut self up to 60c° and the screen is nearly untouchable as it burns. I use a fan and it cools it down to 33c°. Any help?
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Hi. Im a noob i know. I checked the forums. But i did not find what i was looking for.
So. Its really annoying, everytime i clear my ram then in less than 15 seconds its full again. Which drains my battery and takes ages to charge. With this i get overheating. My battery heats ut self up to 60c° and the screen is nearly untouchable as it burns. I use a fan and it cools it down to 33c°. Any help?
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Use this or this & block unnecessary apps frm loading during boot time..which rom u r using & which kernel?
are you rooted? if not the do that first and install titanium and remove u wanted apps
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I have the latest rocketrom and hydracore kernel
May be do a full format and flash the rom again.
Full ram isn't always wasted. Its not like a windows pc.
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Full ram isn't always wasted. Its not like a windows pc.
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yes. But it drains my battery and makes my phone really hot. Ill maybe just have to go and look for software thatll stop my apps from restarting as soon as i clear RAM. Thanks for help though
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yes. But it drains my battery and makes my phone really hot. Ill maybe just have to go and look for software thatll stop my apps from restarting as soon as i clear RAM. Thanks for help though
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no, that's wrong. Clearing the RAM and forcing all the apps to load from scratch is heating the phone and wasting the battery!
The heat is generated by the CPU and the WiFi chip, NOT the RAM!
Android (and most Unix systems) use all available RAM to run more efficiently. It's not a power waste due to using the RAM in a very different way to Windows systems. I can't remember where I read it now, but an Android developer (either at Google or elsewhere) explains this better than me, but this is the general summary.
Short version: DO NOT USE RAM CLEANERS, Android is MEANT to use all available RAM, the CPU is heating the phone BECAUSE it has to load things from scratch rather than pull from RAM.
edit to add: even when something has outrun its usefullness (old program still in RAM, for example) then Android has a very good built-in cleanup system that unloads programs that have not been run for a while. This means that you don't even need to kill old programs that you no longer need!
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everytime i clear my ram then in less than 15 seconds its full again. Which drains my battery and takes ages to charge. With this i get overheating. My battery heats ut self up to 60c° and the screen is nearly untouchable as it burns. I use a fan and it cools it down to 33c°. Any help?
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Actually hte system uses the unused ram to cache other apps so they open faster when you need them..soeven though you clear the ram,it gets full after sometime.You need not worry about that because android can manage it well
And using some task killers could cause you battery drain and even leads to heat your phone
Try formating and reflash the rom
Let's go the crazy analogy route, 'cos they're always fun!
Say you're listening to music on some CDs. You have, say 5 CDs and on each CD there are a only couple of songs you want to listen to, so on a HiFi you'd have to keep switching CDs to get your play list. Let's say that they are also your favourite songs so you play them frequently. Let's call these top 5 songs "Messaging", "Gallery", "Camera", "Phone" and "Music".
So, you rip the CDs to MP3 and create a playlist. The songs are all strung together and they load and play significantly faster than switching discs repeatedly. This is what Android does with programs in RAM. To change between "Messaging" and "Phone" you just double click the file.
Now, you use a task killer to clean your RAM: What you have just done is delete all the MP3s from your computer, put the CDs back in their cases and put the cases back on the shelf. When you next go to play one of your frequently played songs you now have to go to the shelf, find the CD, put the CD in the drive, wait for it to load, then play the song.
Clearly the former is more efficient. The MP3s are not wasting power by being there, they're cached and pre-loaded so they load much more efficiently next time. Clearing everything away and reloading from scratch is much more processor intensive and that is what is generating that heat.
Thanks guys. Its not heating anymore. Thanks for all the help. You guys all get a thanks button clicked
You learn something new everyday. I actually didn't know about the specific way Android deals with ram. I've always cleared ram in the device settings in Airdroid (wifi file transfer app). Never get any battery drain/heatup issues though, but good to know about this, and will now refrain from being OC with clearing ram
I've only been really using my S6A for a few months, and in that time it has been getting exponentially slower, now to the point that it lags several seconds before showing the home screen. Upon checking the stats, I noticed that the RAM was almost topped out, and even a ram cleaner couldn't keep more that 200Mb free. I've heard this may be a problem with touchwiz, but I'm curious, is it really a common problem, and is there a fix? P.S. I only have two user apps running in the background, and they usually take up 50Mb of RAM between them, so it's not that.
My old Samsung galaxy express had an issue like this to the extent where I got annoyed and switched to the moto g3. If you use any app such as clean master, you may think it works, but it actually doesn't help, it makes performance worse.my suggestion is to uninstall any cleaner apps if you have any and restart your device.
Its been a long time since I have had anything with android. I recently got this tablet and have been enjoying it after installing the Google apps and changing launchers but I am having a little issue. Even with the tablet sitting idle over 90% of the memory is being used and it makes the tablet VERY SLOW and unusable. Is this normal with Amazon's ****ty version of android or is something else going on?
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Its been a long time since I have had anything with android. I recently got this tablet and have been enjoying it after installing the Google apps and changing launchers but I am having a little issue. Even with the tablet sitting idle over 90% of the memory is being used and it makes the tablet VERY SLOW and unusable. Is this normal with Amazon's ****ty version of android or is something else going on?
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Android is behaving exactly as it should allocating most idle RAM to cache that actually speeds up application switching. Problem is the paltry 1 GB of RAM of which only about 85% is usable. Stuff Android system and a few beefy apps in there and it's game over. You can speed thing up a bit through various tunings but the hard RAM limit will still be an obstacle. I actually enabled "don't keep activities" under developer options which sounds counterintuitive but actually makes the device more responsive in many scenarios. Apparently it is faster to recreate activities than mess around with swapping and zram compression & decompression (which taxes the relatively weak processor in these pups).
Got my x522 the other day and I notice this behavior across multiple different ROMs - Lineage 14.1, 15.1, AOSP Extended Oreo, and Pixel Experience Oreo and Pie variants.
When I first wake up in the morning, the phone flies. But once I use it a little, it starts to warm up, and it quickly seems to begin throttling the CPU/killing cores. So for instance, the facebook app will begin taking 7-10 seconds to load. If I leave the phone for an hour, and the phone feels fully cool to the touch, the performance still seems to lag. It's only after I leave it alone overnight does the performance seem to pick up to full speed again - Then the FB app takes about one second to load fresh after killing it.
I've seen posts saying to delete the thermal config file but that doesn't seem to make a difference even after a reboot.
1) Am I the only one who seems to experience this issue with heat and apparent thermal throttling?
2) If not, can I edit the config and goose the numbers? I don't even have to be gaming or doing intense, just literally scrolling facebook, or playing a couple of youtube videos and it slows up badly, and stays that way for a lonnng time.
Thanks,
Matt
Edit - I used the phone all yesterday, pretty hard - Though it got quite warm, I never noticed any of the laggyness I was the day before. Either deleting the conf file actually worked, or the sluggishness I was experiencing the other day was due to something else.