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I mean, this can't be that hard right? We know USB data can be transferred over WIFI. Thats probably what is behind the tech of the new wireless feature in the head units. The car has wifi, the head unit knows it and uses it with your phones WIFI and blue tooth in tandem.
I can't really rely on GM to update their Android Auto head unit even though my car has WIFI and it would be easy. They just wont do it. So, I was laying in bed brainstorming. There has to be some small dongle out there that plugs into the cars USB port and uses your phones wifi to connect to it and create a USB connection as if it was plugged in directly. Then the head unit wouldn't need the wireless feature.
Or, you plug the dongle in, and the the Android Auto head unit knows what it is, (just like if you plug an android phone in with Android Auto) and the dongle creates a wifi connection with your phone. Then the head unit wouldn't need the wireless feature baked in. This can't be that hard to come up with can it?
I think it may be possible using a few items
1.)Modified OpenAuto (already supports wifi) that redirects or clones AA data to usb
2.) Raspberry pi zero w
3.) this Zero usb adapter
I'd be willing to work on it, but seems like a big task to undertake to modify OpenAuto.
ashergray said:
I think it may be possible using a few items
1.)Modified OpenAuto (already supports wifi) that redirects or clones AA data to usb
2.) Raspberry pi zero w
3.) this Zero usb adapter
I'd be willing to work on it, but seems like a big task to undertake to modify OpenAuto.
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Not that this in any way diminishes the amount of work involved, but I would 100% be willing to donate towards this venture. If you wanted to start a crowfunding or donation platform towards this I would get behind it in a heartbeat!
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Not that this in any way diminishes the amount of work involved, but I would 100% be willing to donate towards this venture. If you wanted to start a crowfunding or donation platform towards this I would get behind it in a heartbeat!
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Id love to see this too. more than willing to donate to make it happen
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I think it may be possible using a few items
1.)Modified OpenAuto (already supports wifi) that redirects or clones AA data to usb
2.) Raspberry pi zero w
3.) this [ RasPi URL HW Removed here]
I'd be willing to work on it, but seems like a big task to undertake to modify OpenAuto.
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Also would want to donate. There is a market for this if stable and effective. Let us know.
This seems like it is possible if we get a device that works somewhat similar to how Nintendo used to allow wireless connections for their older consoles. They would connect a USB to a PC and bridge the wireless connection to the USB and LAN on the machine. We would need a USB dongle that can take the wireless commands and send them as if the phone was a native host connected via USB.
It'd be interesting to see if it could be done with a Pi Zero W, as the two technologies are *technically* compatible, indeed, when you connect to the Desktop Head Unit, it transmits TCP data over USB.
Unfortunately I don't have a Pi0W to give this a shot with
I'd be all about this.
[Android 3.0+]Proxy/GateWay for Android Auto
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That’s great.
Hi Guys,
what about this? Nothing? I've already checked the other solution, but I would like it much better if could be done it with RPi, "natively" redirect the data between wifi and usb. So the phone can connect normally directly by Android Auto app using wifi without any other 3rd app.
Could be possible? Of course I also would donate this project!!!
Best regards,
Géza
Yeah, apparently a Chinese company made this kind of usb dongle but only for carplay. They converted the factory head unit with carplay from wired to wireless.
I did asked if this will work for AA, but reply is no.
Any updates??
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Any updates??
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There is this one https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aawireless#/
Just announced that they are in production:
AAWireless
AAWireless is now available via our official webshop: https://shop.aawireless.io | Check out 'AAWireless' on Indiegogo.
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Hello, I have searched the forum for this topic and I have not found anything related. I've been reading you for several weeks and today I decided to register.
A month ago I bought the Sony XAV AX 100 radio and I am delighted with it. But I can't make Android Auto work with bluetooth, without cable. I have a Samsung S8 and, in the Android Auto app I have checked the option to start by bluetooth automatically but it does not start when I connect the phone to the radio. Can anybody help me? I think it is Sony XAV AX 100 problem that should not support android car with bluetooth, only with cable.
Thank you very much and greetings.
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A month ago I bought the Sony XAV AX 100 radio and I am delighted with it. But I can't make Android Auto work with bluetooth, without cable. I have a Samsung S8 and, in the Android Auto app I have checked the option to start by bluetooth automatically but it does not start when I connect the phone to the radio. Can anybody help me? I think it is Sony XAV AX 100 problem that should not support android car with bluetooth, only with cable.
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That headunit doesn't support Android Auto wireless (which uses Wi-Fi). AA will only work if your phone is connected via USB.
You could connect the phone via Bluetooth only and play music and/or use handsfree telephone. But not AA.
Android Auto, because it uses the GPS, is a battery suck. I'm not saying that's a problem, it's just a fact. You would want to plug your phone into power while using AA anyway.
I use NetDot Gen10 magnetic USB cables, and it makes it more convenient, especially since I use both AA and CarPlay.
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Android Auto, because it uses the GPS, is a battery suck.
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That's inaccurate. If the headunit has GPS, Google Maps when running via AA will use that instead of the phone's GPS. I've heard that Google requires AA wireless HUs to have a GPS, but can't point to anything authoritative to back that up. All the units I've seen which support AA wireless (JVC/Kenwood and Pioneer) include GPS receivers.
Hi. I want to use two phones in my car. A phone without a sim card wired to android auto (screen mirror) and also use bluetooth to connect to an obd2 device.
The other phone (with sim card) I want to connect via bluetooth to the Mylink2 audio center, to use the hands-free function.
The problem I found is that when I connect the cell phone (without sim card) to android auto, it also forces me to link bluetooth to mylink2 and it does not allow to link the cell phone (with sim card) that I want to use as hands-free.
I can, tell my Mylink2 audio center, do not replace the bluetooh connection of the cell phone with simcard (the one that is only connected by bluetooh), but in that case, android auto does not start on the cell phone that is connected by cable.
If I block all bluetooth services as explained in the post https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...al/how-to-cancel-bluetooth-to-phones-t3962916 I can connect the cell phone by bluetooh (with simcard) but the cell phone (without simcard) does not work bluetooth and therefore I cannot connect to the OBD2.
Can you think of a solution? Could you block android auto, force me to connect the bluetooth of the cell phone connected by cable?
I hope your opinions !!!
Thank you
Alexander
Have a look at running Headunit Reloaded on the phone without the sim, it's specifically made for that purpose. Then, if the connections still don't behave the way you want, you can use Tasker to take care of it.
Hi. Maybe you don't understand what I wrote, because my English is not good.
My Headunit is not Android. But it is compatible with Androud auto.
My Headunit connects to AA via usb cable. When I connect the usb cable to my headunit, it runs AA and also forces to connect the bluetooh. So I can't connect the other cell phone with simcard to use hands-free for phone calls
Can you understand my problem? ... if not, I try to explain it differently.
Thank you
Alexander
I think the suggestion is to run the app on the phone (no SIM), not on the head unit.
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I think the suggestion is to run the app on the phone (no SIM), not on the head unit.
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Hi. Maybe I did not understand well how that application works (Headunit Reloaded), but according to what I read, it is to be able to run android auto in units that do not have support for android auto.
It is wrong I did not understand to be able to use this application I must have a head unit that runs android.
I'm wrong?
Thank you
For me it is strange. I have 2 android phones, a oneplus one rooted and a samsung s8 non rooted. I try to connect the oneplus with a cable for android auto but the S8 disconnects from bluetooth, so the 2 phones can not be connected at the same time. The weirdest thing is that my wife as the iphone 11 pro max and when she is in the car i can connect the S8 with android auto and the iphone still works with bluetooth. Why can't i do this with 2 android phones?
So, if i can connect the S8 with aa and the iphone via bluetooth, why can't i connect another android phone
rather than the iphone.?
If in my car, i have 2 "slots" for bluetooth connection:
1 combination : S8 connected with aa and using 1 "slot" BT and iphone connected using the other BT "slot", works fine
2 combination: S8 connected with aa and using 1 "slot" BT and oneplus one connected using the other BT "slot", never works
3 combination: oneplus one connected with aa and using 1 "slot" BT and S8 connected using the other BT "slot", never works
Why?
I think this is an implementation issue of the head unit. In the Subaru, I've had my phone connected to AA for navigation and my wife has used hers on bluetooth for calls. Try turning bluetooth off on the phone that is connected to AA - I don't remember, but I may have had to do that.
Note10.1Dude said:
I think this is an implementation issue of the head unit. In the Subaru, I've had my phone connected to AA for navigation and my wife has used hers on bluetooth for calls. Try turning bluetooth off on the phone that is connected to AA - I don't remember, but I may have had to do that.
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Did not work. The moment i connect 1 phone via android auto the bluetooth connection of the other phone breaks.
joguirian said:
Did not work. The moment i connect 1 phone via android auto the bluetooth connection of the other phone breaks.
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Hi. I have the same problem. But, if I freeze all the bluetooth services of the phone that is connected by cable (bluetooth does not work), I can connect the other phone by bluetooth to make calls and android auto works correctly.
This solution is not the best for me, since I want to connect the obd2 to the bluetooth of the phone that is permanently connected to AA.
I read online that there are people who could solve it by cloning the same bluetooh mac on both phones. But I can't find how this procedure is done.
Alexander
Medicina200401 said:
Hi. I have the same problem. But, if I freeze all the bluetooth services of the phone that is connected by cable (bluetooth does not work), I can connect the other phone by bluetooth to make calls and android auto works correctly.
This solution is not the best for me, since I want to connect the obd2 to the bluetooth of the phone that is permanently connected to AA.
I read online that there are people who could solve it by cloning the same bluetooh mac on both phones. But I can't find how this procedure is done.
Alexander
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So, if i want to play music from the android phone that is connected with the cable i can't. For me is not a solution.
How can i have the same bluetooth mac address on the 2 phones?
Medicina200401 said:
Hi. I have the same problem. But, if I freeze all the bluetooth services of the phone that is connected by cable (bluetooth does not work), I can connect the other phone by bluetooth to make calls and android auto works correctly.
This solution is not the best for me, since I want to connect the obd2 to the bluetooth of the phone that is permanently connected to AA.
I read online that there are people who could solve it by cloning the same bluetooh mac on both phones. But I can't find how this procedure is done.
Alexander
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I believe that android auto won't work unless your phone Bluetooth tooth and cable connected to head unit.
Either one is missing, it won't work.
Correct me if I am worng
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Hemanshu_Patel said:
I believe that android auto won't work unless your phone Bluetooth tooth and cable connected to head unit.
Either one is missing, it won't work.
Correct me if I am worng
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Hi. I believed the same as you. But, in my case, if I disable all bluetooth services, android auto still works, with the cell phone connected by cable. (cell phone bluetooth is disabled)
I would like to find a way to use it to connect the obd2, to the cell phone that is permanently connected.
Any idea how to solve this?
Today i had the S8 connected to the infotainment system by bluetooth and then i connected the oneplus with the cable (because i had to restart the oneplus), it started the Android auto connection and for moments the 2 phones where working at the same time (i continued to listen to music from S8 and had the android auto interface on). I was viewing google maps on aa and when i switched app, the connection with S8 broke. I still don't understand, i thought that the 2 channels i had in my car for bluetooth where not connected between one another, but it seems that with 2 android phones the connection is broken. I insist, with the iphone and any other android phone works just fine.
joguirian said:
Today i had the S8 connected to the infotainment system by bluetooth and then i connected the oneplus with the cable (because i had to restart the oneplus), it started the Android auto connection and for moments the 2 phones where working at the same time (i continued to listen to music from S8 and had the android auto interface on). I was viewing google maps on aa and when i switched app, the connection with S8 broke. I still don't understand, i thought that the 2 channels i had in my car for bluetooth where not connected between one another, but it seems that with 2 android phones the connection is broken. I insist, with the iphone and any other android phone works just fine.
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Hi. To me, android auto forces to connect the bluetooth of the cell phone that is connected by cable. If android car is not running I can have both phones.
Medicina200401 said:
Hi. To me, android auto forces to connect the bluetooth of the cell phone that is connected by cable. If android car is not running I can have both phones.
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It does not have to be that way, at least for me. And if this works like that is a bad implementation of android auto. My car has 2 slots for bluethoot connection, i think they would have to work independently from each other, but in this case you have 2 android phones, it seems that the connection is linked in the 2 slots and it will not work, but if you have an iphone and an android phone the 2 slots work independently and they work just fine. So...Why? I still can't get it, it shouldn't be like this.
Hi mates, the same here!
I´ve an android radio with bluetooth 5.1 and can´t find a way to connect 2 Android phones at the same time. Tha´s ´cos 1 is for calls and 2 is only for music (rooted with Viper4android). Do I need another bluetooth adapter in order to make the 2nd phone working? Or what??
Tks so much and tks in adv
In the last week i has able to connect the 2 android phones via Bluetooth in my car. The trick here is to connect first the phone that you will use for calls, and then connect the other phone. If you try to do it the other way arround it won't work.
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In the last week i has able to connect the 2 android phones via Bluetooth in my car. The trick here is to connect first the phone that you will use for calls, and then connect the other phone. If you try to do it the other way arround it won't work.
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I tried the way you described, but as soon as you try to connect 2nd phone, my android head unit says to disconnect 1st phone, in order to connect 2nd phone.
Just FYI
1st phone= S10 (for receiving calls)
2nd phone= Oneplus X (android auto)
Honda accord head unit ( android auto)
For me it's not possible.
Can you describe step by step your thing. Cause AFAIK I have no go.
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Hemanshu_Patel said:
I tried the way you described, but as soon as you try to connect 2nd phone, my android head unit says to disconnect 1st phone, in order to connect 2nd phone.
Just FYI
1st phone= S10 (for receiving calls)
2nd phone= Oneplus X (android auto)
Honda accord head unit ( android auto)
For me it's not possible.
Can you describe step by step your thing. Cause AFAIK I have no go.
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First off all, my car has 2 slots for bluetooth devices, normally i use an iphone (wife) and a samsung s8. In the past weeks i was trying to connect the s8 and an oneplus one. I struggled at first but now i only need to have the oneplus turned off and connect the s8 to the bluetooth of the head unit, then i turn on the oneplus witch is very fast since this device has few apps installed and connect with the cable via android auto. I even share the internet connection between phones and can play youtube videos in the head unit. The car is a Skoda Kodiaq 2017 (VW group).
Hemanshu_Patel said:
I tried the way you described, but as soon as you try to connect 2nd phone, my android head unit says to disconnect 1st phone, in order to connect 2nd phone.
Just FYI
1st phone= S10 (for receiving calls)
2nd phone= Oneplus X (android auto)
Honda accord head unit ( android auto)
For me it's not possible.
Can you describe step by step your thing. Cause AFAIK I have no go.
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It happens to me as it does to you. When I connect with the cable it forces me to use the bluetooth of the cell phone connected to the cable.
I still can't find the solution
I have big time trouble connecting my A12 Android Auto to my brand new BMW iX3. My Oneplus Nord connects flawlessly, the A12 does not. On Samsungs website I read that Norway is not among the countries allowing Android Auto (https://www.samsung.com/ie/support/...fficulty-connecting-to-or-using-android-auto/), could that the reason?
I cannot believe that.
I live in the Netherlands and we are also not in the list and we can use AA without any problem, but, your phone AND carsystem will have to connect with each other.
It sounds more that your A12 does not have the right software for it.
Go to apkmirror site and download the AA software and install on your phone.
I have downloaded the latest version from Google Play, isn't that version as good as the apkmirror-versions? My A12 connects OK with the car when it comes to hand free phone operations over Bluetooth, but when trying to establish AA, the car says "The connection failed. Check both the Bluetooth and WLAN settings on the mobile unit". Both BT and WLAN are active on the phone, and during the process an AA logo splashes on the mobile screen.
Edit: I have downloaded and installed Android Auto 6.8.613323 which I suppose is the lastest release. Same result
Ah, now i get it.
I had a Nokia 7plus and my radio-unit worked, This summer i switched to a new Nokia X20 phone, and had the same error.
After switching the car-cable with the cable that came with the new Nokia, it suddenly worked.
So try to use the cable that came with the new phone, instead of the old cable from the previous phone.
Thanx for the tip, elot01! I switched the cable to the one that came along the A12, but nothing happens when connected to the car USB except from battery charging and the option to transfer files. I am in contact with Samsung support, and so far they have been helpful. But they have not been able to solve my problem yet.
Once they have, I will post the solution here. But any tip for the forum community is highly welcome.
Samsung has given up and redirected med to Google since "this is a 3rd party SW". I haven't managed to find any Google support center to contact, but I have figured out the problem myself.
I want to have a wireless AA, and it seems like this is only supprted with handsets capable of dual band wifi, ie. 2.4 and 5GHz. The Samsung Galaxy A12 only support single band (2.4GHz).
So there goes my A12 back in its box to be placed in some drawer and forgotten. A low-priced telephone, but still a waste of money
A tip to Google/Samsung: Why not display a message saying "Android Auto is only supported on dual band wifi mobiles" when only 2.4GHz is supported?
If you want wireless, also take a look at Carsifi (still in Kickstarter) or AAWireless (former kickstarter).
Then you don't need a new phone
elot01 said:
If you want wireless, also take a look at Carsifi (still in Kickstarter) or AAWireless (former kickstarter).
Then you don't need a new phone
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If you want a dongle slamming aroud in you car occupying one USB-port this solution is probably OK. But it's much easier to spend the 85$ extra on a mobile with dual-band wifi.