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[Question] ¿The best nougat stock/debloated/light rom?

EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, I meant to post this on the Redmi4x / Santoni subforum.
Greetings, I think this is my first post here (sorry, I'm still practicing my english and this post may have horrible mistakes).
Currently I'm using the latest version of MIUI (9.x I think), but as much as I love this phone I've always been in love with the performance and customization... and this phone has a hell of a bloatware.
I'm aware of the latest Oreo roms and I know recently Xiaomi has released the source code for the santoni phone but still no rom is perfect, specially the Oreo ones, so I'm looking for the closest aosp/stock experience I can get with full compatibility, I think a nougat based rom will do fine but wich one?
I'm planning to install a rom, install greenify, have a good battery life, have more free space and still have full camera, gps and other compatibility with no issues.
Wich rom could you recommend me?
Thanks in advance.

Wence-kun said:
EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, I meant to post this on the Redmi4x / Santoni subforum.
Greetings, I think this is my first post here (sorry, I'm still practicing my english and this post may have horrible mistakes).
Currently I'm using the latest version of MIUI (9.x I think), but as much as I love this phone I've always been in love with the performance and customization... and this phone has a hell of a bloatware.
I'm aware of the latest Oreo roms and I know recently Xiaomi has released the source code for the santoni phone but still no rom is perfect, specially the Oreo ones, so I'm looking for the closest aosp/stock experience I can get with full compatibility, I think a nougat based rom will do fine but wich one?
I'm planning to install a rom, install greenify, have a good battery life, have more free space and still have full camera, gps and other compatibility with no issues.
Wich rom could you recommend me?
Thanks in advance.
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Aex official Oreo or pixel experience

Mi-Globe MIUI based on the latest official or developer release. Can be customised to your needs.
Working beautifully and you can remove all the leftover MI crap with system app remover, free from the store.
None of the 3rd party ROMs have the excellent battery life as MIUI unfortunately.

Google search Loup 14.1 for santoni.
It is by noyer,father of development on santoni.
For some reason he isn't on XDA but his ROM is what you need you can follow him on github and twitter though.He even managed to port Sailfish Os for Santoni. I'm using Loup 14 with clarity kernel and experience is awesome.

peron said:
Mi-Globe MIUI based on the latest official or developer release. Can be customised to your needs.
Working beautifully and you can remove all the leftover MI crap with system app remover, free from the store.
None of the 3rd party ROMs have the excellent battery life as MIUI unfortunately.
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correct..i thought to suggest the questioner...but you did before me. by the way, once rooted the Stock ROM? all bloat-wares from google and Mi can be removed...Battery and Phone performance everything is good.
even i tried a some recent official releases of Oreo 8.1 for R4x , first few days everything good, later Battery life tarts in consistency. so, i back to stock but removed all Google and Mi's apps ..only very few mi services still existing on my rom, if i delete them my phone gets locked and i need to do everything from scratch again, so i let them persist... Go for stable miui global 9.2 and keep remove the stock bloatwares.
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[News][ARCore Support] Announcement to the users of Asus Zenfone Max Pro

Hello Guys
I'm very excited about when our phone will be getting ARCore support,But Fortunately we made it without knowingly ,Yes!!
Users who installed Android P port from Google Pixel XL,They Already have ARCore support due to the port,And this is how I got to know about it
-Installed Google Play Services as usually
-Went in Update Section in Google Play Store,BOOM!!,ARcore is the first one Hiding up there,
-I've tried it , And it works flawlessly and No bugs at all
NO ROOT,NO TWRP ,JUST UPDATE APP
Apps That can be used with support of ARCore,
- Measure By Google
- Just a line
- Users installed a port of Google Camera,Google Camera Ver. 5.1 only,Can access ARstickers
Many more ARCore apps are available
Have Enjoying your Day!!
I'm very excited,How do you feel after setting up!!

Vadeghar.shravan said:
Hello Guys
Users who installed Android P port from Google Pixel XL,They Already have ARCore support due to the port,And this is how I got to know about it
NO ROOT,NO TWRP ,JUST UPDATE APP
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How do you install Android P port without rooting and twrp?

GryTEcHoG said:
How do you install Android P port without rooting and twrp?
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Well,I mean Without flashing any Zip file in TWRP and Without any use of root

Vadeghar.shravan said:
Hello Guys
I'm very excited about when our phone will be getting ARCore support,But Fortunately we made it without knowingly ,Yes!!
Users who installed Android P port from Google Pixel XL,They Already have ARCore support due to the port,And this is how I got to know about it
-Installed Google Play Services as usually
-Went in Update Section in Google Play Store,BOOM!!,ARcore is the first one Hiding up there,
-I've tried it , And it works flawlessly and No bugs at all
NO ROOT,NO TWRP ,JUST UPDATE APP
Apps That can be used with support of ARCore,
- Measure By Google
- Just a line
- Users installed a port of Google Camera,Google Camera Ver. 5.1 only,Can access ARstickers
Many more ARCore apps are available
Have Enjoying your Day!!
I'm very excited,How do you feel after setting up!!
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Can you send me the link for the Google camera which support ar stickers.....

Mitz02 said:
Can you send me the link for the Google camera which support ar stickers.....
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Here it is ,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TytgxtnhR3jITR-1zFtWD7IRMGfUrprz/view

Vadeghar.shravan said:
Hello Guys
I'm very excited about when our phone will be getting ARCore support,But Fortunately we made it without knowingly ,Yes!!
Users who installed Android P port from Google Pixel XL,They Already have ARCore support due to the port,And this is how I got to know about it
-Installed Google Play Services as usually
-Went in Update Section in Google Play Store,BOOM!!,ARcore is the first one Hiding up there,
-I've tried it , And it works flawlessly and No bugs at all
NO ROOT,NO TWRP ,JUST UPDATE APP
Apps That can be used with support of ARCore,
- Measure By Google
- Just a line
- Users installed a port of Google Camera,Google Camera Ver. 5.1 only,Can access ARstickers
Many more ARCore apps are available
Have Enjoying your Day!!
I'm very excited,How do you feel after setting up!!
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TWRP need to root and install P as well and its custom rom not stock. Flashing and all is required and ARCore already ported to all devices without root no need of P.

Arcore ar stickers work in oreo too without root. Is it not suppose to? I downloaded from the links in the desciption of this video and ar stickers works like a charm

You can also get on hand by this method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW9rwkikdv8

please give me a link to flash Android P port from Google Pixel XL. I want to try
please give me a link to flash Android P port from Google Pixel XL. I want to try
Vadeghar.shravan said:
Hello Guys
I'm very excited about when our phone will be getting ARCore support,But Fortunately we made it without knowingly ,Yes!!
Users who installed Android P port from Google Pixel XL,They Already have ARCore support due to the port,And this is how I got to know about it
-Installed Google Play Services as usually
-Went in Update Section in Google Play Store,BOOM!!,ARcore is the first one Hiding up there,
-I've tried it , And it works flawlessly and No bugs at all
NO ROOT,NO TWRP ,JUST UPDATE APP
Apps That can be used with support of ARCore,
- Measure By Google
- Just a line
- Users installed a port of Google Camera,Google Camera Ver. 5.1 only,Can access ARstickers
Many more ARCore apps are available
Have Enjoying your Day!!
I'm very excited,How do you feel after setting up!!
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Searching for a custom rom

I'm searching for some custom ROM for my Xiaomi mi 9 lite with good optimization and better functions than MIUI 12 have. So far I was thinking between Evolution X and Bliss ROM but I would like something more pixel-like. I know that there is the Pixel experience ROM but for this model of phone there is only fan version of it and from past, I don't have good experience installing unofficial ROMs, the same goes for LineageOS.
I would also like to use Netflix, mobile bank, and these things so functional safetynet would be big plus. I am willing to "hack" it through Magisk. I am also fine with installing google apps through sideloading them from open gapps.
Thanks for all help and tips.

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ValiantFan771 said:
I'm searching for some custom ROM for my Xiaomi mi 9 lite with good optimization and better functions than MIUI 12 have. So far I was thinking between Evolution X and Bliss ROM but I would like something more pixel-like. I know that there is the Pixel experience ROM but for this model of phone there is only fan version of it and from past, I don't have good experience installing unofficial ROMs, the same goes for LineageOS.
I would also like to use Netflix, mobile bank, and these things so functional safetynet would be big plus. I am willing to "hack" it through Magisk. I am also fine with installing google apps through sideloading them from open gapps.
Thanks for all help and tips.
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Hello ValiantFan771. I have a question, what version of Android do you want on your device? I ask you this because I have many custom ROMs from Android 10 to Android 12.

TCLgamer_8185 said:
Hello ValiantFan771. I have a question, what version of Android do you want on your device? I ask you this because I have many custom ROMs from Android 10 to Android 12.
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I am going to leave you some links so that you can choose for yourself which ROM you want on your Xiaomi Mi 9 Lite device.
Android 10,11,12 [outdated (January)] -->https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=971574&st=4840#entry111443405
Android 10,11,12 (monthly Android security updates) --> https://t.me/s/PyxisVelaChannel

questions about the right ROM for Note 8 (SM-N950F)

Hello,
my friend has a Samsung galaxy note 8 with the model SM-N950F and he was thinking about giving me his phone to install a custom ROM for him, the phone is running stock ROM.
my question is what is the most stable android 12/13 Rom ( AOSP ) that doesn't require rooting and has banking apps and the pen working fine, also what is the latest stable TWARP and Odin that works for that model ( because I had SM-G530h and some Odin versions didn't work with it ).
one more question is it available to go back to Stock ROM once again using Odin like with old Samsung phones and where can I find a trusted source as Sammobile doesn't seem to work for me for some reason?
thanks in advance for your help.

KingDark2010 said:
Hello,
my friend has a Samsung galaxy note 8 with the model SM-N950F and he was thinking about giving me his phone to install a custom ROM for him, the phone is running stock ROM.
my question is what is the most stable android 12/13 Rom ( AOSP ) that doesn't require rooting and has banking apps and the pen working fine, also what is the latest stable TWARP and Odin that works for that model ( because I had SM-G530h and some Odin versions didn't work with it ).
one more question is it available to go back to Stock ROM once again using Odin like with old Samsung phones and where can I find a trusted source as Sammobile doesn't seem to work for me for some reason?
thanks in advance for your help.
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Your question is a contradiction. You're asking whether you can use a custom ROM without root but still pass Play Integrity and other checks? This is not possible. Simply having an unlocked bootloader makes your device fail. To pass Play Integrity and be able to use banking apps, the Universal SafetyNet Fix module is required for use with Magisk. Further, AOSP does not include any of the "frills" that Samsung preloads into their firmware, meaning that not all features may work, including the S Pen. If you want to try AOSP anyway, you can follow my guide here to install an AOSP GSI.
As for returning your device to stock using Odin, yes. Sammobile is a good source, but if it doesn't work for you, you can try Frija or Samfirm.js to download the firmware directly from Samsung's servers.

V0latyle said:
Your question is a contradiction. You're asking whether you can use a custom ROM without root but still pass Play Integrity and other checks? This is not possible. Simply having an unlocked bootloader makes your device fail. To pass Play Integrity and be able to use banking apps, the Universal SafetyNet Fix module is required for use with Magisk. Further, AOSP does not include any of the "frills" that Samsung preloads into their firmware, meaning that not all features may work, including the S Pen. If you want to try AOSP anyway, you can follow my guide here to install an AOSP GSI.
As for returning your device to stock using Odin, yes. Sammobile is a good source, but if it doesn't work for you, you can try Frija or Samfirm.js to download the firmware directly from Samsung's servers.
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Frija is faster and I recommend it. SAMMobile forces users to register to their website and limit your DL-speed.
It's not strictly required to use Magisk. Some Custom ROMs by default spoof SafetyNet Attestation to BASIC and don't need Magisk.
But in the case of Custom ROMs like LineageOS (which doesn't spoof/hide the Unlocked Bootloader on purpose!), or Stock OneUI ROM, you do need to use Magisk + "MagiskHide Props Config" Magisk Module and set the fingerprint to Note8. If Note8 isnt available as a fingerprint, use SafetyNet-Fix Module.
Also, I don't use my Note 8 anymore, but we have Custom ROMs for Note8. I see we have LineageOS 20.0. Why use GSIs? They are much more unstable and buggy.

cyanGalaxy said:
Frija is faster and I recommend it. SAMMobile forces users to register to their website and limit your DL-speed.
It's not strictly required to use Magisk. Some Custom ROMs by default spoof SafetyNet Attestation to BASIC and don't need Magisk.
But in the case of Custom ROMs like LineageOS (which doesn't spoof/hide the Unlocked Bootloader on purpose!), or Stock OneUI ROM, you do need to use Magisk + "MagiskHide Props Config" Magisk Module and set the fingerprint to Note8. If Note8 isnt available as a fingerprint, use SafetyNet-Fix Module.
Also, I don't use my Note 8 anymore, but we have Custom ROMs for Note8. I see we have LineageOS 20.0. Why use GSIs? They are much more unstable and buggy.
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LineageOS is largely developed as a GSI. Yes, in many cases, it is bundled with a device specific kernel as a complete ROM, but for Project Treble compliant devices, a Generic System Image is just that - a single generic system image that does not have any device specific functions and can be used with any kernel on any device. In that regard, the official AOSP GSIs are very stable, and any issues are usually involved with the kernel, not the system image.

KingDark2010 said:
Hello,
my friend has a Samsung galaxy note 8 with the model SM-N950F and he was thinking about giving me his phone to install a custom ROM for him, the phone is running stock ROM.
my question is what is the most stable android 12/13 Rom ( AOSP ) that doesn't require rooting and has banking apps and the pen working fine, also what is the latest stable TWARP and Odin that works for that model ( because I had SM-G530h and some Odin versions didn't work with it ).
one more question is it available to go back to Stock ROM once again using Odin like with old Samsung phones and where can I find a trusted source as Sammobile doesn't seem to work for me for some reason?
thanks in advance for your help.
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To be able to use Banking Apps, the following practices are good.
Passing SafetyNet (you can check this with YASNAC from Play Store).
If you don't pass SafetyNet, use Magisk with one of the 2 modules mentioned above.
You may also need to enable Zygisk, Enforce DenyList, and add your Banking Apps to Magisk DenyList.
I use a Xiaomi Poco F3 with ArrowOS Custom ROM, it already contains patches to force SafetyNet to BASIC, and so I dont need any modules, but only Zygisk, Force DenyList, and add my Banking Apps to the DenyList and reboot ^^

V0latyle said:
LineageOS is largely developed as a GSI. Yes, in many cases, it is bundled with a device specific kernel as a complete ROM, but for Project Treble compliant devices, a Generic System Image means the system image can be used with the OEM kernel on any device, because everything specific to that device is contained within the kernel. In that regard, the official AOSP GSIs are very stable, and any issues are usually involved with the kernel, not the system image.
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My Xiaomi Poco F3 (2021) supports Treble and GSI's are not at all usable/daily-drivable. Scratchy Sound, Missing Vibration etc..

cyanGalaxy said:
My Xiaomi Poco F3 (2021) supports Treble and GSI's are not at all usable/daily-drivable. Scratchy Sound, Missing Vibration etc..
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What GSIs have you tried? I suspect that the device kernel is not fully Treble compliant.

V0latyle said:
What GSIs have you tried? I suspect that the device kernel is not fully Treble compliant.
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V0latyle said:
What GSIs have you tried? I suspect that the device kernel is not fully Treble compliant.
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Generic System Image releases | Platform | Android Developers
developer.android.com
The official Googley ones. Tho I don't mind, since I use an AOSP Custom ROM anyway (on my Xiaomi phone). My Note 8 is kept on OneUI 1.0... i miss the "Samsung Experience" dayz.. Yknow, the OS that came after TouchWiz. It had a rather professional-looking boxy design. Don't like the Huge padding and Rounded Corners of OneUI. The modern OneUI versions are also eh. Due to Samsung stuffing additional apps like TikTok and other rubbish as pre-installed apps.

cyanGalaxy said:
Generic System Image releases | Platform | Android Developers
developer.android.com
The official Googley ones. Tho I don't mind, since I use an AOSP Custom ROM anyway (on my Xiaomi phone). My Note 8 is kept on OneUI 1.0... i miss the "Samsung Experience" dayz.. Yknow, the OS that came after TouchWiz. It had a rather professional-looking boxy design. Don't like the Huge padding and Rounded Corners of OneUI. The modern OneUI versions are also eh. Due to Samsung stuffing additional apps like TikTok and other rubbish as pre-installed apps.
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Huh. I've used both the "pure" GSIs from Android CI, as well as the Android Developer GSIs on my Tab A 8.0 with the CUK4 kernel. Everything works like it should. Make sure you're using the correct architecture and bitness for your device - most are arm64 - but in the off case that your Xiaomi isn't ARM, there will likely be a lot of issues.
Remember that while a Treble kernel should run any GSI, you still have to wipe data. You can't go from OEM firmware to GSI or vice versa without a data wipe; that cause a a lot of stability issues.

thanks for the replays and information guys regarding official releases of AOSP ROMs I haven't seen one that is higher than android 9 ( which is mainly the reason why we want to install a higher version due to compatibility issues with the company portal apps ) so any idea what is the most stable ROM for that model running android 10 or above

Question Best privacy ROM for Mi 11 Ultra

Hey guys,
i bought last week my Mi 11 Ultra and waiting till the countdown is over for unlocking the bootloader.
I still dont know which ROM i should use and thats why i want to ask you which one you prefer.
For me privacy is important and thats why i use till now lineage on my phone and also changed a few settings in lineage so it doesnt call any google stuff (for example wifi captive portal)
And i DONT need any google services - MicroG does all i need.
Of course i would prefer a ROM which use the full power of the Mi 11 Ultra camera but as far as i know just the unoffical Pixel Experience ROM has an port of the MIUI Cam.
But the xiaomi.eu ROM + Pixel ROM get both delivered with Google Services thats why i dont want to use them.
And i am not sure if i can trust the original chinese ROM.
So for the moment i prefer lineage or crDroid but both dont support the back display and for good photos i have to install Gcam Port cause those Roms doesnt have a port of the originally MIUI ROM.
But i am sure some of you guys also care about your privacy so please let me know which ROM are you using
Thank you

I had the same dillema and eventually stayed with debloated china rom. It's google services are somehow limited heavily (it's different than global) and i can limit them more on firewall/dns.
Everything works for me, which is different than when using microg.
For example i never managed to get banking apps to run without issue on migrog - which is quite important for me.
xiaomi.eu includes gapps, so it's a NO for me. It's easier to remove gapps from china than from EU.