Some of the potential benefits could be a better hardware keyboard and a user interface that seems more suited for both keyboard and mouse input and touch. What's your take on this and which one would you choose?
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Hi all
I am thinking of getting this phone when it is released in the uk. but i really only have one issue which i want your opinions on, and that is whats the typing like on the screen (i use a iphone at the mo and its really good) has anyone used both, if so are they the same.
any help on this would be great
Many thanks
Neel
No, they're not the same. With diamond it's quite pointless to type without stylus, because you'll make too many mistakes. I use full qwerty keyboard and stylus, works well.
I to have both an iPhone and a Diamond and I can confirm that they're definitly not the same. The iphone is a lot better when typing, part of that comes from the larger screen but also the sensitivity. If you require typing a lot, I'd stick with the iphone or get a device that has a HW keyboard. Such as the upcoming touch pro.
omegaz said:
No, they're not the same. With diamond it's quite pointless to type without stylus, because you'll make too many mistakes. I use full qwerty keyboard and stylus, works well.
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I type without the styles, using full qwerty and that works fine for me. It also helps to do some registry tweaks on pressure settings of the touch screen. The iphone's touch interface is more responsive though.
I use the compact qwerty with T9 activated and I find it quicker than using my previous phone (Nokia N73).
I have the ipod touch and I am not able to write with just one hand on it, and that bugs me... but with the diamond I can type with just one hand and the compact qwerty (2 letters per buttom). I think it's just a personal preference...
First of all the Diamond has been officially released in the UK for about a good week or so....i have one.
Secondly i use the full qwerty keyboard and have absolutely no trouble typing withmy fingers...in fact its great. I use the stylus as well and it works well too.
I have an ipod touch and i find typing on that to be a chore, i make way too many mistakes on the ipod touch compared to the Diamond.
If you buy the phone then make sure you do the tweaks listed in the tweak thread or better still flash to the TLR rom and all thos tweaks above are enabled.
Typing on the Diamond is a joy, typing on the ipod touch isnt in my opinion.
Spawn12 said:
Typing on the Diamond is a joy, typing on the ipod touch isnt in my opinion.
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I have to agree - coming from an iPhone to a Diamond, I find the Diamond much better. I NEVER use the stylus at all and type with the full QUERTY. Its much quicker as all the symbols and numbers can be typed by holding another key for a few seconds rather than entering a new menu to do it.
I haven't adjusted the sensitivity at all, but I do find the Diamond needs a slightly harder touch... however it does work with a pair of gloves on (unlike the iPhone).
The only dissapointing thing with the Diamond typing that Apple have nailed is that if you're typing a word and press the key next to the one you want by mistake it doesnt auto correct it. If you press the wrong key on the Diamond, you just get the wrong word!
p3eps said:
The only dissapointing thing with the Diamond typing that Apple have nailed is that if you're typing a word and press the key next to the one you want by mistake it doesnt auto correct it. If you press the wrong key on the Diamond, you just get the wrong word!
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I guess it will be just a metter of time until someone will figure out a software with the same capabilities as the one from iphone
HastaSSSS
s1rl4ncel0t said:
I guess it will be just a metter of time until someone will figure out a software with the same capabilities as the one from iphone
HastaSSSS
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This is not going to be fully possible. Hardware wise, the iPhone has a proximity sensor which will detect where your thumb/finger is going to hit on the onscreen keyboard and virtually enlarges the surface area of the suggested key to ensure that you are going to hit the correct key. It will also auto-correct the word based on it's huge library.
In addition to this is the obvious size of the screens, the Diamond's being smaller making it harder to type. The onscreen full QWERTY that HTC have implemented in the Diamond is quite poor and is prone to keystroke errors if you're a fast typer *like myself*.
I am currently using PCM Keyboard however and is somewhat 'closer' to that of the iPhone's keyboard capability, where the included dictionary will analyze the keystrokes of a word you type and will try match your keystrokes with the closest/most suited word in its dictionary by substituting incorrect letters with more correct letters surrounding that of the incorrectly entered key.
The iPhone keyboard, is without a doubt, the best onscreen keyboard I have used and I really do miss it. This doesn't go without saying that I do really love my Diamond too, I just wish there was a better keyboard implemented.
The iPhone/Touch is hands down better than any Windows Mobile device when it comes to the onscreen software keyboard. There is simply no comparison. I get that some people find the Diamond better but to be honest, and coming from a hardcore WiMo fan who's gone through at least ten PocketPC devices, the iPhone's keyboard blows any WiMo device away.
Part of the reason is the size of the keyboard and the sensitivity, but even on the HTC Universal with its huge screen, it wasn't as easy as typing on the iPhone. The real secret of the iPhone's ease of use is its Autocorrection feature. To date, there is only one SIP keyboard on WiMo that comes close and it is not PCM Keyboard, it's Touch Pal.
I recommend giving Touchpal a try; it does key proximity sensing the same way the iPhone does, so if you type in "hrllo" it will change it to "hello" after you press the space bar. The dictionary though is bigger and offers more word choices, and isn't as smart as the iPhone's so the iPhone keyboard is still overall better. But Touch Pal isn't half bad.
suggest you check the dates on this thread your nearly 11 months late answering!! lol
Phone keypad and T9 seems about as fast as my old Nokia
Love it.
I'm struggling to type SMS messages on the HD2 key. It is always full of errors because I have not gotten use to this keyboard. I previously used the Iphone 3G and my experience wasn't this bad, even though the 3G doesn't have a keyboard either. I am looking a keyboard "app" that will be more responsive and less prone to errors like the HD2.
Also, which method is best for typing on the HD2 keyboard - with one hand or two hands? Thanks.
keyboard app
Look for Swype for hd2
Yea, if your really struggling with the keyboard then try out swype, it works incredibly well. I had alot of trouble with the HD2 keyboard because up until now I've had resistive screens in my phones and have always loathed t9 prediction, even on my old candybar phones it was always off and I preferred being able to hack out a txt without even looking at the screen. However on my HD2 I have t9 on, and have "correct as i type" enabled, so even if I miss a key here and there the predictive makes up for it and I now prefer it to the swype option.
Also download BSB tweeks from this site, reducing the sensitivity of the screen with that helps a whole lot.
Anybody hear of any apps that can let you use your android device like a Cintiq tablet? Seems to me that a larger Android Tablet would make a good drawing tool for Photoshop...
If you search for RemoteDroid in the aopp store it lets you use your captivate as a touch-pad. you install a client on your PC and the communication is over WiFi. That is as close as I've seen to what you are loking for, but I wouldn't use it as a drawing pad.
Thanks, I found that one, and I agree with you. Good as a mouse program, but not for drawing.
Although even as a mouse program, I can't imagine a scenario where I would choose to use my phone over a standard keyboard and mouse
what about wm 6.5?
Hi Guys!
I´m terribly searching for some keyboard alternatives for WP7, but it seems like there aren´t any alternatives at the moment, right?
I would really appreciate the development of a standard (12 Button) Keyboard like it was implemented in WM 6.1 - 6.5 and is implented in every Android build, on which each button represents 3 or 4 signs. In my personal experience writing goes damn fast (with one hand...for me, it´s even faster than swype) on such a keyboard, even while walking, cycling or driving (yeeeea I know, don´t type and drive... ). I used such a keyboard also with WM 6.5 and Android...(the shown pics are just some (to be honest: not very good) examples to show what I mean)
The keyboard implemented in WP7 is quite okay, but the buttons are really small (at least this depends on how thick your fingers are?! ) and it is impossible for me to type in a comfortable way while I´m walking ...
what do you guys think? are there any solutions/will there be such a layout in near future?
hello,
im looking for the phone keyboard too with T9 , im much much faster on phomne keyboard would be good if anyone can add this on wp7
regards
Same for me... the keyboard in wp7 is not bad, but on wm6.5 with swipe or T9 it was much faster to write a message.
Anyone an idea?
I'm not sure this is an area that will see any change in the short term. Microsoft seem keen to keep this locked down like the iPhone.
*grrr*...that´s really kind of sad...I´m really not comfortable with the native keyboard. But hope dies last
You can't change the keyboard on WP7. Microsoft is not allowing it. I don't believe anybody has found a way to do it either.
nightryder21 said:
You can't change the keyboard on WP7. Microsoft is not allowing it. I don't believe anybody has found a way to do it either.
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Arguably you should add '...yet' to the above statement, although Apple have retained their policy of not allowing alternative keyboards.
A Google search suggests there is no obvious activity around Swype and WP7 and while there are a few things around suggesting that Dasur (SlideIT) were looking to release a WP7 version of their keyboard, there is nothing obvious to support this on their website.
They may have had information from MS that they are not opening up the keyboard? Or maybe it's in development...?
Any news here?
Can someone please recommend a wireless keyboard (Bluetooth) to use with my Nexus 7?
Thanks advanced
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/tablet-keyboard-android-win8-rt?crid=1221
Kinda big for Nexus 7, but 7" keyboards are too small for comfortable typing, IMO.
Or if you want something smaller you can look at something like this:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/07/19/nexus-7-keyboards/?gbmsl=6
Celluon Magic Cube Laser Projection Keyboard looks pretty decent (and a bit pricey).
issak42 said:
Or if you want something smaller you can look at something like this:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/07/19/nexus-7-keyboards/?gbmsl=6
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I have used this keyboard about year and works for me.
Something like "External Keyboard Helper" is nice app, if you want hide soft keyboard when bt keyboard is connected or if you want use some other layout or change your keyboard keys.
Anker make really good bluetooth keyboard.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...iveASIN=B0096M8VR2&linkCode=as2&tag=vi0bc0-20