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I see only a few ROMs have the Treble architecture. Will we see more if them adopting it and should it make compiling them easier if there is a similar foundation through Treble and the base AOSP ROM?
rslatara said:
Hi
I see only a few ROMs have the Treble architecture. Will we see more if them adopting it and should it make compiling them easier if there is a similar foundation through Treble and the base AOSP ROM?
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Every ROM coming out now are with the Treble arch. The only ones without Treble are the old Oreo ROMs.
And yes, it makes the compiling easy.
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I've seen lately that there is many new roms and kernels that are treble enabled
I want to know what are the advantages on treble roms and what makes them better tan normal ones
Treble technology means separating system into two partitions. One for oems, one for Google. This enables Google to push updates to every phone. Without treble, Android phones only get updates when manufacturers decide so.
But for custom roms I dont think there are any adventages of treble. Also, to install treble roms, you need a treble supported recovery. And you can't revert back to miui with treble enabled recoveries AFAIK.
Performance or battery won't change between treble and non treble roms. Also most up to date roms only have treble version anyway.
What that guy above said except Google hasn't been developing any GSI for us to flash, that I am aware of anyway.
Treble support gives our device pretty much indefinite software support, a guarantee that Santoni will always recieve updates via the community-made GSI
What's treble dependant on? (I realize treble is ported in with oem becoming VENDOR Partition)
Don't get me wrong, lineage is way better than stock and a good option because of that you can also fork OMS into it.
I've never had alot of issues porting my previous device tree to other ROMs but nothing boots using treble changes for Payton.
Only progress I've made is with porting elementalx tweaks into lineage kernel, oms into lineage 15.1 and havoc os 8.1 (which black screens when I go to sign into Google account)
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Appears to be vendor blob/vendor.Img related so disregard this post thanks.
Xiaomi has recently said that Redmi 6A will neither get Android 9.0 Pie update nor MIUI 11 update. So it's only a matter of time before they stop providing updates at all, including security or bugfix updates.
So, has anyone been trying to develop a custom ROM for this device? To inform everyone concerned, it's kernel sources have already been released. Also, I'm no developer, but due to the fact that this device supports Project Treble, it shouldn't be too hard to build a ROM for it. Or at least someone could try and build an arm64 version of the ROM, if possible (This device has a 32bit ROM running on a 64bit processor).
So I politely ask the developers present here on this forum to try and make a custom ROM for Xiaomi Redmi 6A. We'll all be thankful.
i don't know how many mediatek devices out there have custom roms, but i think it's not as easy as qualcomm devices to have custom roms.
i've tried many GSI images on my 6A and none booted, despite this device being compatible with Treble. Also i've read in some sites that it will indeed receive the miui 11 update, we just don't know when.
I really hope someone make an actual rom for our device, because this Treble and GSI thing is just an unneccessary ummount of hassle and the result seems to be rather buggy judging from all fixes and patches you have to flash after flashing a GSI.
Anyone can port Pie 9.0 rom from Oukitel C15 Pro Helio A22 chipset?
Danick8989 said:
I really hope someone make an actual rom for our device, because this Treble and GSI thing is just an unneccessary ummount of hassle and the result seems to be rather buggy judging from all fixes and patches you have to flash after flashing a GSI.
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As far as I know, this device has a 64 bit processor, yet the ROM is 32 bit. Any idea why is it like this?
LeHalua said:
As far as I know, this device has a 64 bit processor, yet the ROM is 32 bit. Any idea why is it like this?
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it's an ARMv7 processor, if you want to test GSI roms you need an ARM/A only GSI image. I've finally been able to install a custom GSI image that works properly, albeit with minor bugs. Still a proper custom ROM is unbeatable in my opinion.
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it's an ARMv7 processor, if you want to test GSI roms you need an ARM/A only GSI image.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, this device has Helio A22 chipset, with Cortex A53 processor, which is ARMv8 64bit.
https://www.mediatek.com/products/smartphones/mediatek-helio-a22
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A53
Only the ROM (including the kernel and everything) seems to be 32bit.
Flashing an arm64 GSI wont work, because other partitions like vendor will still be 32 bit, and thus make the GSI incompatible. We'll probably need a real custom ROM with all its components compiled as 64 bit.
LeHalua said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, this device has Helio A22 chipset, with Cortex A53 processor, which is ARMv8 64bit.
https://www.mediatek.com/products/smartphones/mediatek-helio-a22
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A53
Only the ROM (including the kernel and everything) seems to be 32bit.
Flashing an arm64 GSI wont work, because other partitions like vendor will still be 32 bit, and thus make the GSI incompatible. We'll probably need a real custom ROM with all its components compiled as 64 bit.
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If the cpu has 64bit support then i don't know why they didn't use it. But so far we only have ARM GSI as an option for custom rom.
translate: this is a tutorial made in Indonesia that makes the vendor redmi 6a / 6 certus = cactus / cereus to boot the arm64 rom, the rom uses the nusantaraos rom https://nusantararom.org/
edit: i put wrong link, now that real video
Hey there!
Do u guys have an Android 8 or Newer 64-bit for SM-G610M/DS? Can't find it anywhere. Is LOSQ compatible?
I am using J7 Prime SM-G610F. You can go for Treble ROM. Right now I flash Treble and flash Arrow ARM64 a only. Everything works smoothly like a charm.
Cheers,
Treble or prometheusOneUI
Puddin' said:
Treble or prometheusOneUI
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I am using Treble Arrow 9 ARM64 a only ROM. OneUI based ROMs have some issue about contrast. 80-90% Gray turns white. That makes everything too bright.
siamese007 said:
I am using J7 Prime SM-G610F. You can go for Treble ROM. Right now I flash Treble and flash Arrow ARM64 a only. Everything works smoothly like a charm.
Cheers,
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where can i find arrow rom? and what advantages does it have? thank you
kuzo said:
where can i find arrow rom? and what advantages does it have? thank you
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I am writing an article to explain how to download and install Treble project on J7 Prime (especially SM-G610F).
For quick answer, you can check all the links for Treble and many useful stuff here.
Advantages of Treble ROM:
1. I can have many choices of ARM64 Treble ROM with quicker and contunuing updates. I could not find good ARM64 Dedicated ROM for J7 Prime for daily uses yet.
2. I experienced contrast issues with OneUI based ROMs. 80-90% Grayscale turns white. Most Dedicated ROMs for J7 Prime are OneUI based ROMs. Non-OneUI ROMs are discontinued.
3. With Kraken ARM64 Kernal for Treble, Everything is very slick. But when I flashed Kraken ARM for Dedicated ROM, everything is very slow.
4. If you want to try Android 10 (Quack) for now, you need to flash Treble. However Android Q is not stable yet.
5. For A/B Treble phones, Android updates are seamless and the suppliers give support for firmwares of Treble project. (J7 Prime is A only)
Disadvantage of Treble ROM:
1. Easy to get your phone bricked and bootlooped at logo. You can switch back to Dedicated ROM if you want.
2. LED light on top of the phone when screen off can't be activated while charging. I still cannot find patch to fix this yet.
3. Open Camera app in Treble ROMs does not have camera functions such as panorama, etc. I still can't flash any Treble OneUI ROM and get this to work, so I have not idea what happen in OneUI's camera app.
4. Flash GAPPS need to resize /system partition for J7 Prime phone.
5. Flash Magisk needs a bit more work to get some functions to work.
6. Treble project for J7 Prime and related phones has been discontinued by the original author. So there will be no update soon or never. This makes the future Treble ROMs may not be flashed and works well.
7. Treble ROMs are much bigger than Dedicated ROMs because Treble ROMs are supposed to install on any phones that support Treble project. But Dedicated ROMs are specific to one or series of the same model.
8. Treble ROMs don't come with firmwares for the phones. I need to find and flash the phone firmwares by myself. Sometimes wrong firmwares cause malfunctions in phones. I am nothing developer so I have no knowledge about this stuff. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
9. More chances of getting the phone bricked. In contrast to Dedicated ROMs that brilliant developer team supports.
For me, I prefer ARM64 performace so I plesantly take the risks. Right now my J7 Prime is apparently slick and zero random reboot.
Cheers, :highfive::highfive::highfive:
Currently I've lineage os on my tablet (t510), I'm searching for something else more stable and with a bit more functions.
Any ideas ?
Pizzaswift01 said:
Currently I've lineage os on my tablet (t510), I'm searching for something else more stable and with a bit more functions.
Any ideas ?
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If you want roms with more function, try heading over to the project treble section of xda and flashing some GSI images. Currently using phhusson's stock Android 10 with go gapps but you might like to use a ROM with more features.
Roarmaster said:
If you want roms with more function, try heading over to the project treble section of xda and flashing some GSI images. Currently using phhusson's stock Android 10 with go gapps but you might like to use a ROM with more features.
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Wow that's a interesting section, actually didn't know that thing existed, can I ask you how project treble works ? Also what does GSI mean ?
Pizzaswift01 said:
Wow that's a interesting section, actually didn't know that thing existed, can I ask you how project treble works ? Also what does GSI mean ?
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Based on my current understanding, project treble aims to make it easier for OEMs (like Samsung) to update android. Here's a more in depth read about project treble: https://www.computerworld.com/artic...ect-treble-android-upgrade-fix-explained.html
A GSI is a Generic System Image that can be flashed on top of existing vendor code. So it makes it easier to change/update your android OS without companies like Samsung having to modify their hardware compatibility code (that's the goal anyways) which leads to faster updates.
For us enthusiasts, that means we can flash the same stock android GSI ROM, lineageOS GSI ROM, resurrection remix GSI, etc. on any phone supporting project treble (all devices that came out with android 9+ & some android 8).That's the same GSI file on any device with a recent version of VNDK. It's not all perfect for compatibility yet, but I've yet to run into any issues.
Yup! As @Roarmaster said you can check out Project Treble page. I too use GSIs and have flashed 3 GSIs so I can recommend you some. In project treble section for AB devices search for Bless GSI, it has lot of customization and works quite well, selinux enforcing, megisk safety net passes and google play certification all by default.
Roarmaster said:
If you want roms with more function, try heading over to the project treble section of xda and flashing some GSI images. Currently using phhusson's stock Android 10 with go gapps but you might like to use a ROM with more features.
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Thank you for the tip, this sounds like an interesting option. I'm looking at flashing a custom ROM onto my SM-T510 in the hope of improving the performance as the multitaking on the stock rom isn't great. Can I ask have you been flashing A, B, or A/B ROMS? I've installed two different Treble checker apps and they gave conflicting results.
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Thank you for the tip, this sounds like an interesting option. I'm looking at flashing a custom ROM onto my SM-T510 in the hope of improving the performance as the multitaking on the stock rom isn't great. Can I ask have you been flashing A, B, or A/B ROMS? I've installed two different Treble checker apps and they gave conflicting results.
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Flash the rooms from the A/AB section of project treble. When checking for treble compatibility, use the app recommended on Phusson's GSI page as most GSIs are based on his work. If you want to flash a ROM, make sure you flash the arm32-binder64-ab version (like it says from the treble app) for the SM-T510.
Amazing! Thank you for the info and links @Roarmaster, I really appreciate the help. I've known about project Treble for a while but I've been out of the custom ROM scene for quite a few years, so I had no idea you could flash like this. I'll give one of Phusson's roms a go. Thanks again!