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I'm new to all this Android stuff. Had Blackberrys forever. What exactly ist it to root the phone, how "dangerous" is it, and what exactly are the benefits to doing it?
I now have two Android devices, the LG Revolution, and a Dell Streak 7.
Thanks for your patience.
twillet50 said:
I'm new to all this Android stuff. Had Blackberrys forever. What exactly ist it to root the phone, how "dangerous" is it, and what exactly are the benefits to doing it?
I now have two Android devices, the LG Revolution, and a Dell Streak 7.
Thanks for your patience.
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Rooting the phone gives you access to the protected areas of the phone. As far as how dangerous it is, that depends on the ability of the end user to carefully follow directions
The advantage is that you can customize your phone as you see fit. The manufacturers place certain software on your phone that may actually hinder you from using your phone to its full potential (i.e. Microsoft Bing, and Verizon Navigation).
Once you remove these additions, you can add the Google counterparts (for free) that make your phone far more functional, and eliminates the need to pay third parties (like Verizon for Navigation).
You can also install new images on to your system that does most of this work for you (meaning you don't have to be a developer to get rid of those services as someone else has done it for you). With some ROMs, it increases speed (overclocking), gives you functionality you didn't previously have (wireless tether - the free kind), and allows you to skin the parts of the interface that can't be skinned with a home app replacement.
Typically speaking, if you are using a stock home-screen, and the original firmware, you are getting the worst experience from your phone. Counting on developers, however, can have it's down side. Since they are working for you to get the perfect phone, but aren't perfect by nature, there can be bugs and flaws as they are in the development process. Most developers want to release a quality product, so they continue working on their product until it is as close to perfect as conceivably possible.
The trickiest part is getting your phone rooted and putting CWM recovery on it. If you can follow the directions to a 't' without skipping or ignoring portions of the instructions, you will usually be home-free to do whatever you want with your phone.
twillet50 said:
I'm new to all this Android stuff. Had Blackberrys forever. What exactly ist it to root the phone, how "dangerous" is it, and what exactly are the benefits to doing it?
I now have two Android devices, the LG Revolution, and a Dell Streak 7.
Thanks for your patience.
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DUDE!!! you are in the exact same boat as me, and with the same devices! though i came from iphones.
I agree with majorpay. love the revolution and the streak7. i can never go back to ios now.
Ad Free! And console controllers!
Major, great explanation. I guess the thing I would add is the use of apps that remove ads. And something that kind of big right now is using a console Bluetooth controller, like the sixaxis (PS3) and wiimote apps. My wiimote syncs up perfectly with my rooted Droid 1. Gotta try the PS3 app. Neither worked on my stock LG Revolution.
As to what root exactly does...
"root" is the "Administrator" so to say in Linux and UNIX. You can do anything as root, and it technically (from a secure point) should never be used.
If you own root, you own everything. When you root your phone, you gain the ability to access the root user, which most providers do NOT want you do.
As majorpay said before, you have the ability to remove bloatware, and apps like Bing and Verizon apps which come pre-installed on the phone. This takes up space, uses memory, and you can't uninstall them. With root you have the ability to override Verizon's apps (per say) and delete them, then reinstall them with Google's non 3rd party apps which are free.
If anyone is familiar with "jailbreaking" it is the exact same thing, gaining access to the root user for the iPhone / iPod touch.
I have never used BB before, so I don't know if there is something similar to rooting...
TL;DR - It lets you do anything you want
Hi all.
I'm an android user switching to windows phone..
I'm getting the Lumia 520 soon ..
I just wanted to get a general idea of how jailbreaking works with windows phone..
is it like android just download the apk (or whatever extension windows phone uses) to the sd card .. install it and voila ?
or is it complicated ?
any guides/tutorials for this ?
Thanks.
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You can enable sideloading on WP8, but it's more complex than on Android; you need to use a PC to enable it and to install the sideloaded apps.
More importantly, though, sideloaded apps are very limited. For one thing, you can't install more than a few of them - the typical range is 2-10, depending on what unlock method you use - unless you uninstall some first. They are also restricted to very low permissions. There is no widely-usable "root" hack for any WP8 phone right now, either. I'm working on it... but the Samsung phones will probably be the first ones.
Despite Windows' long reputation for poor security, Microsoft has put serious effort into WP8 security and lockdown (not the same thing... security keeps others from controlling your device, lockdown keeps you from controlling it) and the result is pretty solid. There's a few holes we've been able to attack thus far, but most of them have had such minimal privileges we couldn't use them to *do* anything meaningful.
After going through days of Googling, asking people, researching, digging through XDA, fiddling with my own Ascend P7, I've finally managed to fit all the pieces together and make it work properly with the latest Lollipop update. It's posted on my blog because I might update it in the future and it's easier doing it there than maintaining a thread here on XDA. At least for me...
Article:
https://rejzor.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/update-huawei-ascend-p7-l10-to-android511
If you need any help, ask away here or on my blog, I don't require any registration so it's easy and fast even for those who aren't registered on XDA.
Followed the instructions. Worked like a charm.
Only exception was that I just did b839 update from the phone updater. As it gave me an option to DL and update from B830 > B839 as soon I turned it on at B839 step... was a 70-80mb update size, compared to the one you linked which was 1.3gb, entire thing.
Also what's the simplest way to root the phone now?
Yeah, you can use OTA updates, but I wanted to be sure and decided for full versions. With OTA you have to strictly follow the iterations where with full versions you can skip those in between. But since I haven't actually tested that I didn't want to write about it because things might behave differently then.
worked like charm, thanks! too bad we can't get rid of the emui though.
I honestly don't know why people hate EMUI so much. It has a bit of getting used to it at first, but after a week or two I liked it so much I never looked for any other launcher. It's smooth, really well and logically organized and simply works. The lack of separation between home screen and app drawer is actually pretty good. I just tossed less used apps in folders on last page and the more used ones on first 2-3 pages. Dunno, I really like it. Plus, it comes with tons of really useful features otherwise only found on rooted phones via 3rd party apps (the app firewall for example so you can prevent data transfer as well as roaming for individual apps).
I cannot get this phone to interop no matter what tutorial guide I used unfortunately The phone is now back to stock at windows 8.1 update 2. Everytime I tried to apply the bootstrap.xap no matter if it's to extra e and info or the stock mixradio, customwpsystem just exits and nothing happens. I tried googling if anyone else have these issue, and saw that it happens to a couple of people but no true solution so I had to start a thread to seek help. Thanks everyone!
As someone who's tried just about everything without success, I can tell you that even if you get it to work, something else with go wrong eventually. I've jailbroken my iPhones, rooted my Galaxy Phones, installed Cyanogenmod on my tablets, etc. interop unlocking has pretty much been a losing battle for me. I have a Lumia 1520 & 640 and they're so limited in terms of customization compare to android, apps are missing features, can't play flash videos, etc. interop unlocking was the only hope I had in Windows Phone. The only thing my Lumias have going for them now is that the OS is very smooth. I think I'm going to take the cowards way out and go back to Android until some of these hacks have become more polished.
Thanks merazomo for the reply. So currently, nothing will work for the 640? Do we have to wait for the full blown windows 10 in order for devs to start back hacking this phone?
I've installed the Windows 10 Preview version on an old 521, but I've experienced quite a few bugs still to feel comfortable upgrading my 640; it's normal since Official Windows 10 mobile still hasn't been released for the 640. On most of the forums you'll see here related to Windows Phone hacks and unlocking, etc. you'll notice that the last comments/questions on the last page is always someone like us, asking why this or that doesn't work. Windows phone is a very secure system, for better or for worse. For me, it still comes down to Windows Phone apps though. Most official apps such as Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, etc. are always crap and I have to rely on alternative ones, which oftentimes are better than the original, but are missing features. The question we have to ask ourselves is if it's worth waiting to unlock these phones when Android is light-years ahead in that department.
I have same trouble later, but today I did it.
Follow the original guide manual way with some corrections.
1. Make 1-2 steps.
2. On 3 step install Microsoft files and WP explorer from store.
3. Make 4-6 steps.
4. Make 7-12 steps with Microsoft files
5. Before make 13 step open WP explorer and add folder -> SD card.
6. Make 13, 14 steps on the WP explorer.
7. Make 15, 16 steps.
Hi All
I just unlocked a lumia 640 att go phone.
I'm planning on upgrading to W10M.
Then interop unlock
What guide do you recommend for interop unlock?
Will upgrading remove the ATT branding?
hi
can you pls. let me know what guide you used
thx!
treat me like an idiot if these are obvious..
I want to put Samsung stock nougat on my rooted SM-T810, and I have some general questions. if all this info is gathered somewhere else, please point me there. maybe I used bad search terms?
1) for US, I use the XNZ country code, correct?
if there's an update thread already, consider this an apology for wasting your time. please stop reading now and point me to it. otherwise:
2) Use Odin 3.12, correct?
3) Can I just use twrp to update?
4) will I lose root?
5) if yes to above, could you please point me to a rooting guide (SM T810)
6) other than the ROM itself, what do I need?
yeah - so i'm an idiot. I see the 'no questions' posting now. guess I jumped the gun
Is your current s2 Tab working smoothly? If so, why risking an update?
why not? I like to play around and keep current. Besides, IMHO, Android s**** as an OS, still unable to do things Windows was doing in the early 90s. I keep hoping someday it will grow up... I know Android and Windows have different purposes, but until I can network at the OS rather than app level (built in), and until it is fully 'self-contained' and doesn't require a PC for changing OS versions (w/o 3rd party apps), etc., I'm going to consider it 'not ready for prime time'. Just my opinion.
"Keep it current" what does this mean?
You do realize that the lastest software versions often come with the most current bugs and issues at hand.
If you need to network, install Kali Linux, I'd suggest.
'keep it current' = keep all apps and the os to the most recent version possible
bugs: yeah, but it also comes with the latest features
Linux: on the tablet? there's a version? but that's sort of beside the point - Android lacks a functionality that's been in every other OS on the planet since at least the early 90s. it may be by intent, but it still ain't there, and it would sure make my life easier if I could map a drive from my nas and have it's contents available to all apps: music player, movie player, ebook reader. for work, I've used it to process data in the field using Octave. Getting the data on and off is always a pain - better if I could map a share and go from there.
not trying to argue - you asked, i'm elaborating. too much, maybe.
Keep all apps and the os to the most recent version possible. But what for?
Why trying desperately to fix a working car?
Updates eat storage and in most cases performance. Worse, introduce new bugs and so on.
I do not get this: update mania. Sure, it certainly assures that the Superclass can easily spy on every single user but besides that.. it makes no sense IMO.
Certainly, Android is Linux based after all. So yes, you could root your Tab and install Linux.
Drive access. That's already possible. You can connect an external SSD drive or HD drive via USB. Or NAS,
http://www.techrepublic.com/google-...o-help-you-connect-to-network-storage/?espv=1
I feel you. No arguing here either, just trying to understand your viewpoint.
just want a fully functional 'computer' where I can access files without having to use one app to copy the files over from the nas and another to use them. step one is the OS's responsibility, IMO. want access to network drives and otg drives to be identical to access I get on the internal memory.
and if you really want to get me going, start up on selinux, the "god i'm so afraid to go outside" solution. yeah - let's punish everyone because that guy over there is being bad. and lack of automatic root access? these are children's toys? unfortunately, my favorite ebook reader is only on android. as is the best music player I've found.
fun discussion, but I gotta get some work done
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just want a fully functional 'computer' where I can access files without having to use one app to copy the files over from the nas and another to use them. step one is the OS's responsibility, IMO. want access to network drives and otg drives to be identical to access I get on the internal memory.
and if you really want to get me going, start up on selinux, the "god i'm so afraid to go outside" solution. yeah - let's punish everyone because that guy over there is being bad. and lack of automatic root access? these are children's toys? unfortunately, my favorite ebook reader is only on android. as is the best music player I've found.
fun discussion, but I gotta get some work done
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I guess you are not really understanding the role smartphones and tablets play in the computing world. They are more communications terminals designed to be usable without mice and keyboards rather than stand alone computers. Your recurring references to what computers could do in 1990 is a little off. All you had (at most) was windows 3.0. That did not include networking out of the box, but relied on device-specific drivers and utilities (i.e. Novell) to access a thin-net ethernet coax cable or IBM token ring network. If you want to get online, be prepared to use a serial terminal and a But I digress...
Android is not Windows. It is a cut down and specialized version Linux. Linux/Android is not a single monolithic OS like Windows. It does not do SMB out of the box, but needs a Samba client to do SMB to your windows-ish NAS. It does not try to be all things to all people, but rather gives you the basics and lets you, Joe User, add on the things to make it do what you want. In short they don't bloat it down with stuff only 10% of users will want to use.
To access your NAS, there are Samba (SMB) and ftp clients that let you do it. In fact I have a couple Android streamer boxes on my TVs around the house. They connect directly to my NAS video libraries and pull movies and other videos directly from there using a variety of protocols. Do I need to do that on my phone? No, but hey, I can install KODI on that phone and do just that. I can also put KODI on my windows box and do the same thing. But if I want to disconnect, I can copy these movies to my Tablet/Phone and play them any time I want off line. This is all things I would challenge you to do using Windows 3.0 in 1990 (don't even think of doing full touch screen support with Windows 3.x).
But well, if you really want your phone or tablet to work like Windows, you should run Windows on it
not '1990' - 'early nineties'. big difference. Win 3.1 (or WFW?) had an add-on, but still OS level tcp/ip stack
paragraph 2: I don't count real networking as an option. I should be able to access my ebooks on my nas usung ebookdroid, not have to move trhem to the tab using ESfilemanager THEN read them. I have a HUGE library of pdfs, movies, music, more than will fit on my 128 gig sd card (or a 256 g card for that matter), and i'd like access to the WHOLE THING from any appropriate app I choose. all the smb apps suck green worms, by the way.
I don't want to have to install a freakin client - it should be part of the os. imho, of course
btw: this discussion has become pointless. I have my preferences, you have yours. that's the way it should be. and as far as their 'role' goes: give them a bigger one - they're capable.
'bye
I totally understand your gripe. And I do wholeheartedly agree there should be a *root* toggle in the **Developer Option**.
But here is the thing, how are greedy conglomerates, and the gov puppets, supposed to spy on each and every single citizen if they just uninstall all spyware?
Moreover, most consumers are just too *untechy* and they would probably lose all their bank account, credit card and online shopping data to third parties and eventually blame the OEM. I smell lawsuits of the retard.
Auto updates are there for a reason. Control.
For instance, Samsung's new high-tech TVs record audio 24/7. Same for all these assistant devices.. Amazon Echo, Google Home etc. Seriously, 1984 isn't that far away anymore.
Msamp said:
treat me like an idiot if these are obvious..
I want to put Samsung stock nougat on my rooted SM-T810, and I have some general questions. if all this info is gathered somewhere else, please point me there. maybe I used bad search terms?
1) for US, I use the XNZ country code, correct?
if there's an update thread already, consider this an apology for wasting your time. please stop reading now and point me to it. otherwise:
2) Use Odin 3.12, correct?
3) Can I just use twrp to update?
4) will I lose root?
5) if yes to above, could you please point me to a rooting guide (SM T810)
6) other than the ROM itself, what do I need?
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Use Odin AND the rom... i think you will lose root but you can always go back in twrp to install supersu.
I did something similar, i used Samsung Smart Switch to do an emergency reset on mine and it installed the latest firmware (nougat).
That will unroot and remove twrp.
I wouldn't (and didn't) reflash TWRP and root because you lose OTA updates, and right now there's some bugs in Nougat that , for me, were fixed in an OTA update. But once you flash with Smart Switch, you could always re-install TWRP and root again if you want.
Don't mind Niii4, he ranted about the same things in my thread and to others too...