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Hey I just got my current droid about two months ago (my last one the screen gave out and I got it replaced under warranty). Anyways, at first it was working really fast, but lately whenever I exit a app the home screen takes about ten seconds to load the icons. I haven't installed that many apps, just a few games, pandora, and a sports app so I don't think they are the problem. The browser has also slowed down significantly and I'm wondering if that might have something to do with the 2.2 update? Both these problems are driving me nuts and I'm seriously considering going back to my old flip phone again...
I have been using the Moto G(XT1063) 8GB Single SIM version for a couple of days and saw that it focused really fast and had more than 400mb free RAM.
Today the phone updated some Motorola Apps and Google Apps. After the apps updated, I saw that less than 300MB RAM stays free most of the time and it takes 2-3 seconds to focus.
So what went wrong? I haven't yet installed apps like Facebook,WhatsApp,Viber or Skype. So I am kind of confused what I did wrong.
I'm a really big fan of the look and feel of this phone, but I have noticed an alarming issue. It reminds me of the original HTC One that only had 1GB of RAM.
If I test it side-by-side with my OnePlus One, LG G3, or Note 4, I get the same results: Clearing all apps from memory and then systematically opening the same apps on both phones, if I multitask back to any of them on the Moto X, they have to completely reload. Every Chrome page reloads, too. I have also noticed that Nova launcher redraws with regularity, even when I check the option to force it to stay in memory.
My question is: Was it this bad on 4.4.4? Or is it a Lollipop issue? Because I updated to 5.0 right out of the box and if rolling it back will fix this, I'm all for it. There's no excuse for apps reloading this frequently on a modern smartphone with 2GB of RAM.
That's a Lollipop issue. No such problems on KitKat.
_MetalHead_ said:
That's a Lollipop issue. No such problems on KitKat.
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Thanks, dude. Looks like I'll be rolling back.
greyhulk said:
Thanks, dude. Looks like I'll be rolling back.
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Yep, no prob. That's why all my devices are still on KK.
Flashed back to Kitkat. Memory management is definitely worse on 5.0, but even 4.4.4 kills apps faster than it should. Even with 1GB available most of the time, apps have to refresh much more often than they should.
Testing Methodology:
Side-by-side with OnePlus One
Open the same 7 apps on both phones (Dialer, Feedly, Reddit Sync Pro, Chrome to androidcentral.com, camera, Nine email client, messaging)
Cycle back and forth between apps using multitasking button on both phones
Observe app reload instances
Results: The OPO NEVER reloads anything. My Moto X will be fine for the first 3 or 4 apps, then it will reload the app completely, including androidcentral.com on Chrome. And if I have multiple tabs open in Chrome, it's worse. Yes, the OPO has 3GB of RAM, but there is still 1GB free on the Moto X when I perform this test, so there's no reason it should be actively killing the apps that quickly.
That being said, it is markedly better than on 5.0. Nova launcher NEVER redraws now, whereas it did constantly before. And I was never even able to cycle between two apps without one of them reloading. Still, I wish it handled memory a little better. This is eerily similar to the issue that plagued the original HTC One and it drove me to sell that phone.
I'm not here to bag on this phone. I'm a huge fan. I just want people to be informed.
greyhulk said:
Flashed back to Kitkat. Memory management is definitely worse on 5.0, but even 4.4.4 kills apps faster than it should. Even with 1GB available most of the time, apps have to refresh much more often than they should.
Testing Methodology:
Side-by-side with OnePlus One
Open the same 7 apps on both phones (Dialer, Feedly, Reddit Sync Pro, Chrome to androidcentral.com, camera, Nine email client, messaging)
Cycle back and forth between apps using multitasking button on both phones
Observe app reload instances
Results: The OPO NEVER reloads anything. My Moto X will be fine for the first 3 or 4 apps, then it will reload the app completely, including androidcentral.com on Chrome. And if I have multiple tabs open in Chrome, it's worse. Yes, the OPO has 3GB of RAM, but there is still 1GB free on the Moto X when I perform this test, so there's no reason it should be actively killing the apps that quickly.
That being said, it is markedly better than on 5.0. Nova launcher NEVER redraws now, whereas it did constantly before. And I was never even able to cycle between two apps without one of them reloading. Still, I wish it handled memory a little better. This is eerily similar to the issue that plagued the original HTC One and it drove me to sell that phone.
I'm not here to bag on this phone. I'm a huge fan. I just want people to be informed.
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Actually WOW. I made same comparison with N5 running 5.0.1. And Moto X is worse.. I'm surprised nobody noticed that fact earlier or in the reviews. If L on X is worse than KK I am definitely not updating. Love that phone, it's such a bummer that memory management is so aggressive.. But it's behavior on KK is little bit wired and different than L. Apps running in the background like for example last pass, are always there. And on L those were the ones to kill in the first place.
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Actually WOW. I made same comparison with N5 running 5.0.1. And Moto X is worse.. I'm surprised nobody noticed that fact earlier or in the reviews. If L on X is worse than KK I am definitely not updating. Love that phone, it's such a bummer that memory management is so aggressive.. But it's behavior on KK is little bit wired and different than L. Apps running in the background like for example last pass, are always there. And on L those were the ones to kill in the first place.
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Thanks for confirming. Usually when I post something like this, people reply and tell me I'm crazy or that their phone "multitasks fine".
Assuming that it's intentional, the only reason I can think Moto would do this is for battery life reasons (so nothing is running in the background draining), since it has a smaller battery. The other possibility is that they did it for the Moto G, which has 1GB of RAM and then just used the same image for both phones for the sake of consistency.
Either way, it's disappointing, especially after using the OPO and seeing the difference side-by-side. Really love this phone, but this bothers me more than it should.
I've noticed L is worse on the X versus my N5 as well. Navigating with maps and playing google music in the car is a nightmare.
Is this supposed to be fixed in 5.1?
I'm surprised not to see more posts about this issue. I've been noticing on my own phone that whenever I launch chrome or Google maps it tends to kill anything else that's running in the background (pocket casts, swipe pad, smart lock, stock launcher, etc.) it basically makes for a pretty unpleasant experience. Does anyone know if this is supposed to be fixed in 5.1?
I can confirm this issue too. Just to add more monitoring tool when you want to check the memory when such thing happens: developer options>>process stats>>duration 1 day>>click on the green bar and note the timing for which the memory was critical. I think the system deems the memory to be critical when it passes 1gb and starts to kill apps in the background. It never used to be like this on 4.4.4.
Please help contribute if you have any knowledge about using these stats.
Edit: i also noticed that during the time the memory was critical, the battery level dropped like a stone from 65%-55%. So i think its all also connected to the battery consumption being too much at times.
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Her'es my figures (phone uptime: only 17h)
Very bad I guess:
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Her'es my figures (phone uptime: only 17h)
Very bad I guess:
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OMG that is pretty bad! Was your phone going wonky at that time? I mean battery life and apps crashing etc
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OMG that is pretty bad! Was your phone going wonky at that time? I mean battery life and apps crashing etc
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No crashes nor battery drain but many launcher restarts.
I've now uninstalled an app ( "Lazy Swipe" which was on the "top" list) and seen a little improvement (no more launcher restart for the last 3 hours)
I plan to investigate a bit further, I may have another potential culprit (HeadsUp which I'm only using in car dock mode but appear to consume a lot of RAM and is running all of the time)
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BTW, I'm not running very memory intensive app like games.
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No crashes nor battery drain but many launcher restarts.
I've now uninstalled an app ( "Lazy Swipe" which was on the "top" list) and seen a little improvement (no more launcher restart for the last 3 hours)
I plan to investigate a bit further, I may have another potential culprit (HeadsUp which I'm only using in car dock mode but appear to consume a lot of RAM and is running all of the time)
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BTW, I'm not running very memory intensive app like games.
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Yeah unfortunately even when there is so much ram and you cant use many apps. I you wish you can report this to motorola on their forum. I have created a thread there: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/115c66d6c7
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After having uninstalled HeadsUp I've noticed a significant boot in responsiveness.
I'm going to keep an eye on memory stats for the next few hours
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After having uninstalled HeadsUp I've noticed a significant boot in responsiveness.
I'm going to keep an eye on memory stats for the next few hours
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I would suggest observing these for a full day without restarting. Then report to motorola. For me it was google plus updates causing the issue with memory. When i uninstalled updates it stopped. So also check the timing for which the apps are running in Application settings>>running. If the time for which the app is running is lesser than the total uptime, it might be your suspect.
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I have created a thread there: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/115c66d6c7
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I was already subscribed to that thread. But since my memory issues are pretty new, I prefer to start investigating by myself
I recently upgraded to an S6 Edge from an HTC One M8. This phone is probably one of the best phones I've ever used. However I have noticed that sometimes the phone just "lags". For example pulling up the recents menu can take a couple extra seconds. When scrolling homescreens/settings app, it is not as smooth as I thought it should be. Chrome scrolling is pretty horrible sometimes. I've only had the phone for 7 days. I did disable most of the Samsung/Verizon/Microsoft apps. I also did clear cache from the recovery. The only remedy is to just reboot my phone which helps for about a day. Does anyone else have this issue as well?
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I recently upgraded to an S6 Edge from an HTC One M8. This phone is probably one of the best phones I've ever used. However I have noticed that sometimes the phone just "lags". For example pulling up the recents menu can take a couple extra seconds. When scrolling homescreens/settings app, it is not as smooth as I thought it should be. Chrome scrolling is pretty horrible sometimes. I've only had the phone for 7 days. I did disable most of the Samsung/Verizon/Microsoft apps. I also did clear cache from the recovery. The only remedy is to just reboot my phone which helps for about a day. Does anyone else have this issue as well?
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I am also facing same issues and even sometime it feels most of the games also lags on s6 edge
Yes, my phone has serious lag. It is basic stuff, like hitting the home button it will take 2 seconds for the app icons to slowly repopulate. The calendar widget is rough, often takes 1-3 seconds for the widget to appear. I have disabled the majority of verizon apps and cleared out cache; I just did a factory reset and will try and load back in some apps but so far this phone has horrible lag. I installed the exact same apps and same set up as my Moto X 2013 and I am thinking about switching back to the old phone until some software updates come out.
i have heard about this on the smaller 32GB and there have been people that had 32 and replaced it with 64GB version that swear there is a difference in performance but i have the 64 and dont have any lag complaints.
what do you all have?
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i have heard about this on the smaller 32GB and there have been people that had 32 and replaced it with 64GB version that swear there is a difference in performance but i have the 64 and dont have any lag complaints.
what do you all have?
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I have the 64GB version. I cracked my screen and sent it back to Samsung to repair. I am hoping they find some other problems with the phone. I have reverted back to my Moto X 2013 and it is amazing how much more fluid the UI works. The apps do not quite operate as fast (i.e . browsing, Instagram pictures, etc.) but there is 0 lag in the UI. Unless the Edge comes back running smooth I am going to sell it, the UI lag is way more frustrating than apps and browsing working slightly slower.
I received my phone back form Samsung after the cracked screen repair (cost ~$240.00). Via trial and error I am pretty confident my Calendar widget that is linked to an Exchange Account was causing my serious UI lag issues. I installed all my applications but this time used a stock wallpaper, installed Calendar Widget (started to get some lag so then removed) and did not install the photo frame widget. Now I have no UI Lag. I am pretty sure it was an issue with the calendar widget, but I am just going to stick with the stock wallpaper and no photo frame either as the UI Lag seems to have disappeared with this new setup.
When you are starting to experience lag, check how much free memory you have. When I start seeing lag, my memory is down to about 5-8%. I think this is the memory issue that is discussed in other posts. I also have a 64G device
I had spotty lag on stock ROM, but everything has been blazing on either of the custom ROMs currently available if you're up for rooting to test it out.
Hi my Razer 2 will just randomly freezes. By that I mean sound will continue to work, the screen will remain on passed it's 5 min inactivity cutoff point, but the screen and the side buttons( all 3 buttons) will not respond to any input. I'm not sure how long this will last but I know it has stuck that way for more than 15 mins. Most of the time I just immediately reboot. And about 25% of those times it will still be unresponsive once it comes back on. But most of the time it fixes the issue till it decides to do it again. It does this about 2 times a day.
I'm not rooted, unlocked, nor have I flashed anything to my phone. It is still bone stock. The phone is only about 2 months old and I'm on the latest update.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Exactly the same issue here, stock completely but will crash on nearly every app I try to run. Screen is so unresponsive it is painful, playing Pokemon Go is a horrendous experience. Taking my handset to Three today to see if they can give me a replacement.
Mine doesn't do it on every apk. But when it does I'm usually watching a video...... Haha no not porn.... Lmao. And the other weird thing about it is when I reboot it it will show the splash screen then boot animation then it cuts the boot animation short and pops up a very basic very old school window requiring me to enter my password. So I enter it and it goes right back to the boot animation where it left off. And finishes running the animation then before I can go to my "Home" screen I have to input my password again. But this time is normal password screen and I have it set up to require it at that point. It's the first generic password screen in the middle of the boot animation that puzzles me. It just started doing this about 3 to 4 days ago.
Had a previous phone that would randomly freeze.
The solution was to enable developer mode. (Settings about phone and tap on build number 10 times)
Head back and find developer options.
Set Window animation scale to off
Set Transition animation scale to off
And set Animator duration scale to off
Restart phone.
Hope that helps.
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Exactly the same issue here, stock completely but will crash on nearly every app I try to run. Screen is so unresponsive it is painful, playing Pokemon Go is a horrendous experience. Taking my handset to Three today to see if they can give me a replacement.
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I've faced the same. Three are not only swapping my handset for a Mi 8, but they have upped my contract benefits to the top level, and reduced my costs by £10 a month. I know the Mi 8 specs slightly lower than the Razer, but I'm fed up with this
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Had a previous phone that would randomly freeze.
The solution was to enable developer mode. (Settings about phone and tap on build number 10 times)
Head back and find developer options.
Set Window animation scale to off
Set Transition animation scale to off
And set Animator duration scale to off
Restart phone.
Hope that helps.
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That's one of the first things I do when I get a new phone, flash a rom, or just generally anytime I have to set it up from scratch. So it's not that. I guess I'm gonna flash the kernel in these forums that has root capabilities and twrp built in. See if that helps..... I like the performance it has during mobile gaming. PUBG runs on the higest/best video setting and speed like a boss.
Did you set it to adoptable storage when you first got the phone?
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Did you set it to adoptable storage when you first got the phone?
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If that is the issue is this something that can be reset to have the option to choose the correct storage if the factory image is flashed?
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If that is the issue is this something that can be reset to have the option to choose the correct storage if the factory image is flashed?
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You would have to do a hard reset.
When asked how the memory card is to be used select as portable storage.
Not to be provocative, but why have the option of adaptive storage if it doesn't function as it should on this phone? I've never had this issue with any other device. Personally I'm extremely disappointed at Razer. No updates since the Feb security patch, we are now in June. Razer forums show very little advancement and support, and we know the mobile division has been scaled down significantly.
I would have thought this device could be a devs dream, but alas it appears long forgotten
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Not to be provocative, but why have the option of adaptive storage if it doesn't function as it should on this phone? I've never had this issue with any other device. Personally I'm extremely disappointed at Razer. No updates since the Feb security patch, we are now in June. Razer forums show very little advancement and support, and we know the mobile division has been scaled down significantly.
I would have thought this device could be a devs dream, but alas it appears long forgotten
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I agree. Not having any update since feb's security patch shows Razers laziness or lack of concern for their supposedly high end mobile gaming device. Not a confidence booster going into a round of PUBG knowing it may freeze at any moment.
It just froze again for no apparent reason.
And by the way I don't even have a micro SD card in the phone.
This is weird I've never had any of the issues you've described in either my RP2 or RP1. I would contact Razer send it back or swap.
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Same. Haven't even had it for a month. Completely stock, latest update, freezes completely when opening either version of Chrome (Canary and Stock) sometimes, and forcing a reboot usually gets it frozen AGAIN before I even unlock it, which makes me force another reboot. Not to mention I think I'm already noticing a dead pixel on the screen. It hasn't even been a month.
I did a factory reset in the stock recovery about 4 or 5 days ago. It's been running beautifully since. No lag no freezing just running as smooth as a unicorn sliding down a rainbow. So I guess I picked up some kind of malware or something along my journey. I've gone to the "dark web" a few times. Just snooping around. But I was safe about it. I used a VPN and ran thru tor browser. But it could have been there that I picked up something. Who knows. But what I do know is it's back to as smooth as it was out of the box after a full factory reset.
same here on rooted
it mostly crash when I want to watch videos on Facebook or similar pages.
it does on stock/rooted stock/gsi and i think it's vendor problem
Moving back to Internal storage seems to have done the trick, especially as my SD card has been disconnected several times now.
Same issues with Radom and sometimes more often freezing as to where I have to hold power down until it reboots.last time it did it was a few minutes ago I was trying to watch a clip about oppo 7 pro video about 5g on the chrome search app it played about 15 seconds and solid froze my phone everytime I tried to play it.it worked fine in YouTube app
My phone is been having this issue lately.
Seems to have started only in the last week or so..
I am running the custom kernal and the "stock deodexed and zipalign" rom.
It could also be that I've rooted...?
I don't want to go back to stock rom so I live with the random frozen screen once a day and since people here have said it happens on stock.
Phone has never been dropped and it isn't hot when it happens.View attachment 4803124
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Mine has done this a few times in the past week. Stock rooted, tried stock kernel and arter's kernel with same result. It's only happening to me while using chrome and videos in Facebook.
Running complete stock Three ROM, no rooting. Chrome took an update over the weekend and now the phone locks up when watching video. Works fine on Samsung browser on the phone, just Chrome.
Might finally get around to flashing and getting LDAC working on this thing....