I am considering the purchase of an X4 and wanted to check on something before I purchase. I searched, but didn't find a definitive answer.
Regarding the different versions, my understanding is that the Amazon version can't be bootloader unlocked nor can a custom rom be installed on it.
How about the Android One (payton_fi) version. It appears that it can be bootloader unlocked.
What about twrp - is there a separate flavor of that (or can the regular payton version be used)?
What about ROMs - is an Android One (payton_fi) specific version needed or can any payton rom be used?
I hope my question is clear and thank you in advance for assistance on this.
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I am considering the purchase of an X4 and wanted to check on something before I purchase. I searched, but didn't find a definitive answer.
Regarding the different versions, my understanding is that the Amazon version can't be bootloader unlocked nor can a custom rom be installed on it.
How about the Android One (payton_fi) version. It appears that it can be bootloader unlocked.
What about twrp - is there a separate flavor of that (or can the regular payton version be used)?
What about ROMs - is an Android One (payton_fi) specific version needed or can any payton rom be used?
I hope my question is clear and thank you in advance for assistance on this.
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Yes it can be
FizzyAps said:
Yes it can be
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Thanks for the quick response. My understanding of your response is that I can purchase the Android One version and use the standard Payton twrp and roms.
Correct?
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Thanks for the quick response. My understanding of your response is that I can purchase the Android One version and use the standard Payton twrp and roms.
Correct?
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Yes. I have the US XT1900-1 Fi/A1 version. It is currently unlocked, rooted running the stock 9.0 Retail version, but have run custom ROMs and GSI's successfully.
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Thanks for the quick response. My understanding of your response is that I can purchase the Android One version and use the standard Payton twrp and roms.
Correct?
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Yes or any TWRP for the Payton
ew said:
I am considering the purchase of an X4 and wanted to check on something before I purchase. I searched, but didn't find a definitive answer.
Regarding the different versions, my understanding is that the Amazon version can't be bootloader unlocked nor can a custom rom be installed on it.
How about the Android One (payton_fi) version. It appears that it can be bootloader unlocked.
What about twrp - is there a separate flavor of that (or can the regular payton version be used)?
What about ROMs - is an Android One (payton_fi) specific version needed or can any payton rom be used?
I hope my question is clear and thank you in advance for assistance on this.
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Basically, all Moto X4 devices are the same. Most Android One variants would need to be unlocked. I can not say that because I do not live in the sales area of the Android One variants (Germany). But as long as the bootloader can be unlocked you can also install everything. There are no extra versions. The only thing that is different is something with VoLTE but most of the ROM developers are looking for it and if it does not work then you can write to them and most of them are so nice to provide an update or a workaround.
https://motox4custom.jimdofree.com (my website)
I have an Android One (Fi) X4 that I purchased for my son. I flashed the Retail version so he could have One Button Nav. Have NOT unlocked bootloader on his phone (unlike my X4), and he has been getting OTA updates without issues. Just FYI...
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Hello,
I just bought an HTC One in Germany (Vodadone) to use in Brazil and it is working just fine. But since it is a Vodafone version it takes longer to get Android updates releases. I was wondering if it is possible to flash the Developer Edition image, which is carrier free, on my phone and stay true to the original HTC build.
I know that there is the dev build available for download on htcdev.com. Has anyone tested it? Is there any tutorial here on how to do that?
Thanks in advance.
pedropj said:
Hello,
I just bought an HTC One in Germany (Vodadone) to use in Brazil and it is working just fine. But since it is a Vodafone version it takes longer to get Android updates releases. I was wondering if it is possible to flash the Developer Edition image, which is carrier free, on my phone and stay true to the original HTC build.
I know that there is the dev build available for download on htcdev.com. Has anyone tested it? Is there any tutorial here on how to do that?
Thanks in advance.
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You can flash the US Dev Ed from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265820
in case you didn't already know, must be bootloader unlocked, rooted, and have custom recovery.
If you mean an RUU you will have to wait for s-off and supercid
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Does any one have stock rom or firmware of the following details provided.As i want to revert the root ..
Android Vesion :4.4.4
Baseband version : MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.038.123.00R
Build number : KXA21.12-L1.26
System Version : 212.44.26.ghost_row.AsiaRetail.en.03
kernel version : 3.4.42-g50861a7 [email protected] #1
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
If it isn't listed here, it's likely not been made available yet,
http://www.filefactory.com/folder/dd05c058d3ff8dbe/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=100&page=1
Don't downgrade or you will likely brick. And don't flash other carrier firmware either, or you could have other issues.
Why would you want to unroot? If it's for warranty repair, There's no point... They will see you've unlocked your bootloader no matter what you do.
Darth said:
If it isn't listed here, it's likely not been made available yet,
http://www.filefactory.com/folder/dd05c058d3ff8dbe/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=100&page=1
Don't downgrade or you will likely brick. And don't flash other carrier firmware either, or you could have other issues.
Why would you want to unroot? If it's for warranty repair, There's no point... They will see you've unlocked your bootloader no matter what you do.
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Amazing!!
But honestly though, i dont see the difference between this version and the EU version for XT1052.
690sid said:
Amazing!!
But honestly though, i dont see the difference between this version and the EU version for XT1052.
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I'd just want confirmation from others that flashing the EU version worked for them first. If you flash it and end up with issues, you'll be stuck if there's no version for your device. Again, with no downgrading.
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I'd just want confirmation from others that flashing the EU version worked for them first. If you flash it and end up with issues, you'll be stuck if there's no version for your device. Again, with no downgrading.
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I was working with the EU version for quite some time now... However, I did download the Asia version and now using that..
690sid said:
I was working with the EU version for quite some time now... However, I did download the Asia version and now using that..
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is it possible to re lock the boot loader and get back warranty?
umm... naah... although there is a way to remove the warning sign in the boot...
in the moto x, its impossible to relock the bootloader
You can relock the bootloader, but it will show as "relocked".... Not locked as it originally was.
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I was working with the EU version for quite some time now... However, I did download the Asia version and now using that..
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hello! can you please tell me where did youfind the asian 4.4.4 version ? thanx!
(update) i found it!
plz help me
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You can relock the bootloader, but it will show as "relocked".... Not locked as it originally was.
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could you please help me??
Iam using moto x XT1052 indian retail model...Many days b4 I have installed 5.1 brazalian lollipop backup via twrp but now i wanna come back to stock rom 4.4.4 kitkat via rsd lite..will it work or will my phone will brick bcoz of degrading process from 5.1 to 4.4.4??
plzz answer me if yes plz tell me the method to come back to kitkat
Why worry about Warranty when most of us would have bought the device more than a year ago.... :|
690sid said:
I was working with the EU version for quite some time now... However, I did download the Asia version and now using that..
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Need exact link for 5.2 xt1052 asia....
i have an unlocked verizon moto x 2nd generation. can i get official motorola 6.0 update? is there any way?
thanks
im from pakistan so i wont be using verizon.
Which model do you have?
AT&T - XT1097
T-Mobile - XT1095
Verizon - XT1096
Check here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_%282nd_generation%29
donslade said:
Which model do you have?
AT&T - XT1097
T-Mobile - XT1095
Verizon - XT1096
Check here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_%282nd_generation%29
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xt1096
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akholicc said:
xt1096
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Motorola and Verizon have stated that they will not update the XT1096 to MM or 6.x so there is no "official" Marshmallow firmware from Motorola for this phone.
You can find an 99% stock MM ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/rom-xt1096-verizon-flashable-stock-rom-t3327345. Please read the full thread and ask questions there about this ROM. Some people - including me - are using it as their daily driver with little to no issues. This ROM has all the Motorola apps (Voice, Display, etc.) working as expected from a stock ROM.
Another option CM13. Read this thread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/orig-development/rom-official-cm-13-0-nightly-releases-t3256580/post65781867#post65781867. CM13 works on the XT1096 and other CM13-based ROMs should work but you will need to verify by reading their threads. Please be sure to read the full thread and ask questions there about CM13 or in the other threads related to other ROMs.
This is assuming that you are on the Verizon network and want to keep CDMA functionality. If you are using this phone on a GSM network and do not care to keep the CDMA access then you might want to look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/guide-xt1097-to-xt1095-nextel-t2972693
All of the options above require that you have an unlocked bootloader. If your bootloader is locked please go here to learn about unlocking it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/motorola-unlocking-verizon-moto-x-2014-t3291104
Please read and learn as much as you can. Most - if not all - of your questions will be answered by reading through the threads listed.
XT1085
Hello everyone,
I'm currently using the moto X 2nd generation bought in china (XT1085) running android 5.0.2.
I would like to get rid of the retcn version of the system because I don't speak chinese for a retEU or retUS and install android 6 MM. Is it possible?
My phone is rooted and TWRP recovery installed
I tried to install this version : Version 6, because one guy wrote on the topic that it worked on TX1085 but it failed for me, and my phone stayed on the Motorola launching screen.
So now I'm back with the factory setup and would like to now how to install android 6.0?
Thanks
Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2972693
kboya said:
Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2972693
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Yep I saw it but i've some trouble to download the file from the thread so i'm looking for an other solution
Edit : Ok I found a better link in the comments and did it, seems to work for now
How to unlock Motorola Moto X 2nd gen. bootloader?
Hey Guys! I have a locked motorola moto x 2nd gen, verizon variant (xt1096). I want to unlock its bootloader for upgrading to marshmallow (6.0), tried to unlock through Motorola's website, but my phone's not eligible for it. So is there any other way to unlock bootloader.
Hi guys,
Is there an option to flash Android One (Project Fi) to regular Moto x4?
Reef2009
Not now, but I really want it. Is very dificult to get a Moto X4 version Android One outside of USA... :crying:
No, but a guy in the custom roms thread was able to flash the retail Moto x4 ROM onto his Fi phone (as a last resort to recover his bricked device).
I really want this feature in moto... As I don't know the regular moto will get updates like Android one or not, as I know obviously the Android one get updates faster but the regular version will get same updates even if its late or if the Android one version will updated we can update the regular moto with root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance for your answers.
Amanpreetsingh said:
or if the Android one version will updated we can update the regular moto with root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
DiDGR8 said:
I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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Thnks for you answer. One more question, do you think this device will get good development ???
Amanpreetsingh said:
Thnks for you answer. One more question, do you think this device will get good development ???
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There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
DiDGR8 said:
There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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Yes you are right he is working hard for this device.
DiDGR8 said:
There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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can we follow this person somewhere on social? is he here on xda forum? can you share a link to some of his work? just asking..
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
pizza_pablo said:
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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Because it's only available via project fi, in usa.
kraatus90 said:
Because it's only available via project fi, in usa.
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Can Fi be used, outside the USA?
it will be possible as soon as we get some working factory images from lenovo.. the phones aren't different at all
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pizza_pablo said:
Can Fi be used, outside the USA?
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ofc not but the phone works just fine with other carriers
pizza_pablo said:
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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Personally simply because out US there isn't the Android One version.
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cpt-harlock said:
Personally simply because out US there isn't the Android One version.
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So, what is the advantage of converting to an Android One version of Fi is not available?
pizza_pablo said:
So, what is the advantage of converting to an Android One version of Fi is not available?
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The retailer one comes out full of annoying bloatwares. Actually I don't care about Fi Project, I just want have the cleanest UI possibile with only the strictly necessary. Oh, there are the security patches and os updates aspects too.
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DiDGR8 said:
I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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This reminds me of older non-nexus phones- we would have to grab the OTA and use tools to construct the stock rom in a form that was flashable/modifiable. In the pre-lollipop? times, the patches were file based, so it was much easier to modify just specific files. The OTAs are now block based, so they just modify the atomic blocks that need changing, so you need an exact copy of the file system in order to apply the OTA.
Hi. I have a Samsung S10 (G973U) from T-Mobile. I am currently on Android 10, update February 2020 (G973USQS3CTA3)
I need to go back to android version 9. Can you tell me the firmware to download? I am BIT 3.
Wolfgang_111 said:
Hi. I have a Samsung S10 (G973U) from T-Mobile. I am currently on Android 10, update February 2020 (G973USQS3CTA3)
I need to go back to android version 9. Can you tell me the firmware to download? I am BIT 3.
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Unfortunately, you're on v3 bootloader and cannot go back to Android 9 as that is on v2 and older.
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Is it possible to perform this downgrade if I unlocked the bootloader/rooted the device?
jxnhdn said:
Is it possible to perform this downgrade if I unlocked the bootloader/rooted the device?
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If you have a G973U like the OP, then a million posts would let you know it's not rootable.
Can it be downgraded from 11 to 10?
only if your on the same bootloader version "whitch I think is V4"
its likely your phone is on a later version
Tel864 said:
If you have a G973U like the OP, then a million posts would let you know it's not rootable.
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Since this thread comes up in searches, I thought it would be good to add that as of now, the Snapdragon 973U can be rooted. The bootloader can be unlocked if it is version 4 or less. There are threads on XDA that tell how.
Feenix0 said:
Can it be downgraded from 11 to 10?
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I am also looking for this option to try Resurrection Remix ROM. Anyone knows what is the last version of bootloader for Android 10?
Doman said:
I am also looking for this option to try Resurrection Remix ROM. Anyone knows what is the last version of bootloader for Android 10?
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For the beyond1qlte (Galaxy S10 SM-G973U Qualcomm) the latest bootloader version is 6 afaik.
To check your bootloader version look at 5th character from the right of your Android build number.
Examples:
bootloader version 5: N970USQS5EUA1
bootloader version 6: N970USQU6FUB7
Neither of those can be unlocked. As I said above, you need to be on 4 or earlier to unlock the bootloader on this device. @afaneh92 can give you more info.
EDIT: Oh, sorry. I misread your question. I don't know the last BL version for 10.
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For the beyond1qlte (Galaxy S10 SM-G973U Qualcomm) the latest bootloader version is 6 afaik.
To check your bootloader version look at 5th character from the right of your Android build number.
Examples:
bootloader version 5: N970USQS5EUA1
bootloader version 6: N970USQU6FUB7
Neither of those can be unlocked. As I said above, you need to be on 4 or earlier to unlock the bootloader on this device. @afaneh92 can give you more info.
EDIT: Oh, sorry. I misread your question. I don't know the last BL version for 10.
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He can flash android 10 if he is on rev 4 or below
Doman said:
I am also looking for this option to try Resurrection Remix ROM. Anyone knows what is the last version of bootloader for Android 10?
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According to https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s10/firmware/#SM-G973U latest USA Android 10 firmware had bootloader 4 (per the check MtnX2 mentioned). You can look at other countries if you are not in the USA.
On Snapdragon phones, you cannot downgrade the bootloader, so if you're already on Android 11 or a newer bootloader, you're stuck there and cannot go to an older version.
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On Snapdragon phones, you cannot downgrade the bootloader, so if you're already on Android 11 or a newer bootloader, you're stuck there and cannot go to an older version.
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I recently purchased (from ebay) a Galaxy S10 with Android 11 and bootloader version 4, and I was able to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM. It wasn't easy to find the device because now most S10s are updated.
Image attached showing Android 11 and BL v4.
schwinn8 said:
According to https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s10/firmware/#SM-G973U latest USA Android 10 firmware had bootloader 4 (per the check MtnX2 mentioned). You can look at other countries if you are not in the USA.
On Snapdragon phones, you cannot downgrade the bootloader, so if you're already on Android 11 or a newer bootloader, you're stuck there and cannot go to an older version.
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I have an Exynos from Europe, already at Android 11 with bit v14... the latest one. I have found some older bootloader, but flashing with Odin was refused, with TWRP flasing process was successful, but it did not change the bit... so I guess I stuck with Android 11.
Doman said:
I have an Exynos from Europe, already at Android 11 with bit v14... the latest one. I have found some older bootloader, but flashing with Odin was refused, with TWRP flasing process was successful, but it did not change the bit... so I guess I stuck with Android 11.
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I believe Exynos can still be downgraded. The process is different for Exynos vs Snapdragon, so you may want to look into it more deeply... you just have to find Exynos-specific threads for the matter.
Doman said:
I have an Exynos from Europe, already at Android 11 with bit v14... the latest one. I have found some older bootloader, but flashing with Odin was refused, with TWRP flasing process was successful, but it did not change the bit... so I guess I stuck with Android 11.
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Its not exynos thread, but will answer you.
You can flash firmware has same bootloader rev, I assume 14=E
So only firmware with E on 5th character from the right on build number.