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Any news for any upcoming update on the device?
Ratnaveer Singh said:
Any news for any upcoming update on the device?
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No news. Though it is being speculated that camera improvement update may come out with some bug fixing (if any), there is no confirmed news yet. Guess we just have to wait for it for as long as they aren't out.
Kernel source has now been released
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Latest update Juny 2017.This is realy bad Motorola.
Schrotty35 said:
Latest update Juny 2017.This is realy bad Motorola.
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There were 3 camera related updates yesterday. Oreo is coming later this year. What firmware update are you expecting?
Dont get camera update.
Webern said:
There were 3 camera related updates yesterday. Oreo is coming later this year. What firmware update are you expecting?
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What were the 3 apps that got updated?
Camera tuner v1.15.8
Moto photo editor v1.4.45.4
Moto camera 2 v7.0.48.20
Did you just get your phone? Those updates were released a couple of weeks back
Those are update from 31 Aug
Webern said:
Camera tuner v1.15.8
Moto photo editor v1.4.45.4
Moto camera 2 v7.0.48.20
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Those are old , with lot of bugs and issues.
Yeah, they turned up the day after I got my phone. But I'd checked for updates a few times and received other updates. Wonder why they turned up late.
OTA update
There are two OTA updates for Moto G5s Plus released by the Google but Motorola has not shared with its customers. The pain is that Moto does not share frequent security patches updates. They have to start stepping forward to this. They need to be customer minded now or they will loose customers slowly away. I am one of them.
Even my Moto G4+ got the September patch yesterday. There is none so far for this one. Loving the phone nonetheless.
However Motorola does need to commit to regular software and patch updates.
subhi said:
However Motorola does need to commit to regular software and patch updates.
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Not when people keep buying their insecure, unpatched phones. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Moto Singh said:
There are two OTA updates for Moto G5s Plus released by the Google but Motorola has not shared with its customers. The pain is that Moto does not share frequent security patches updates. They have to start stepping forward to this. They need to be customer minded now or they will loose customers slowly away. I am one of them.
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What do you mean that Google has released updates for the g5s plus? Released to who? How are google providing g5s plus releases anyway? It's a lenovo product.
Webern said:
What do you mean that Google has released updates for the g5s plus? Released to who? How are google providing g5s plus releases anyway? It's a lenovo product.
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Google releases the updates to manufacturers who in turn release it for general public afaik. Moto phones are almost pure stock.
subhi said:
Google releases the updates to manufacturers who in turn release it for general public afaik. Moto phones are almost pure stock.
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moto camera 2 v7.0.61.17 is now out.
Webern said:
moto camera 2 v7.0.61.17 is now out.
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Old news noob.
Moto is rolling out september security update for moto g5s plus but in phases will have to wait longer
subhi said:
Google releases the updates to manufacturers who in turn release it for general public afaik. Moto phones are almost pure stock.
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Google only releases the updates for its own devices(Pixel and Nexus). All other manufacturers develop the ROMs and their updates for their devices on their own and Google just certifies them after which they can be released via OTA.
Already received October update on MiA1 and MiA2, given that these two devices already receive late updates, Nokia claims themselves to be fast on providing updates, but they haven't provided October patch yet, while all major manufacturers are doing it.
October security patch fixes a major security flaw in the framework that lets hacker execute codes on your phone remotely.
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2018-10-01
shailendra1993 said:
Already received October update on MiA1 and MiA2, given that these two devices already receive late updates.
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According to HMD it's either your carrier or your country holding it up. They need to come up with better excuses
divvykev said:
According to HMD it's either your carrier or your country holding it up. They need to come up with better excuses
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October patch is not out yet.
I am already on Pie, but it's buggy as hell.
I suspect that they are working on a stable Pie update for rest of the world and at the same time trying to fix the bugs, but they are too late at that.
shailendra1993 said:
October patch is not out yet.
I am already on Pie, but it's buggy as hell.
I suspect that they are working on a stable Pie update for rest of the world and at the same time trying to fix the bugs, but they are too late at that.
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The same build is rolling out for everyone. Bugfixes will be included in security patches.
This device is still on the September security patch which was rolled out just before October ended. No signs of October security update yet. Is anyone else also getting annoyed at this situation?
I for one only purchased the device looking at the Android One tag and the 5000mah battery.
They have Android One and monthly security updates promise plastered all over their product page and yet are not bothered to even update an Android One device.
Isn't this Google's job to make sure Android One partners provide timely security updates?
Xiaomi gets a lot of flak here on XDA for not updating their devices to the latest OS but they are atleast providing timely security patches to their Android One devices. Motorola here is not bothered to even update their Android One device.
Can we get someone from the XDA team to do an article regarding this? That way more people will know the real state of affairs regarding this device before purchasing it.
I have a Motorola Edge Plus. It's September and I'm still on Junes Security Patch. Motorola 2nd tier support is telling me June's Security Patch is the latest update. How are they getting away with this?? That's a flat out lie. They said that Android hasn't given them an update. Huh???
Well I saw this thread and began checking the last update on my phone, a so-called brand new m32. I clearly remember the last update was dated November of 2021. Guess what, there was a new update just waiting to be downloaded.
ManojNairOnline said:
Well I saw this thread and began checking the last update on my phone, a so-called brand new m32. I clearly remember the last update was dated November of 2021. Guess what, there was a new update just waiting to be downloaded.
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Im really intrigued why you answer all OT threads that are 2 yrs old or more.
You try to increase post count?
Does anyone know how many android OS updates Vivo has promised for the x90 pro plus.
None are promised. 1-2 based on history of the China OS phones. E.g x70 pro+ the direct successor only got a single one so far from Android 11 to 13. It never got 12 and security updates arrived late. No monthly updates on security updates but rather 2-3 monthly in it's first 18 months. The funtouch OS x70 pro+ on the other hand received Android 12 and 13 as well as more timely updates.
I think no China OS vivo ever received more than 2 major upgrades and that's when they didn't skip one.
Security Updates run for 2.5 years or so.
Basically Vivo considers your phone to be junk after that time and expects you to upgrade. Resale value after 2 years therefore next to nothing....
extremecarver said:
None are promised. 1-2 based on history of the China OS phones. E.g x70 pro+ the direct successor only got a single one so far from Android 11 to 13. It never got 12 and security updates arrived late. No monthly updates on security updates but rather 2-3 monthly in it's first 18 months. The funtouch OS x70 pro+ on the other hand received Android 12 and 13 as well as more timely updates.
I think no China OS vivo ever received more than 2 major upgrades and that's when they didn't skip one.
Security Updates run for 2.5 years or so.
Basically Vivo considers your phone to be junk after that time and expects you to upgrade. Resale value after 2 years therefore next to nothing....
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Hmmm I saw on a website that x90 and x90 pro will get three major os upgrades so maybe the pro plus will get three as well? I think I can live with 2 major upgrades as my Xiaomi Mi 9 from android 9 had its final upgrade to android 11. Even though I can blu and root the device for custom ROMs I've never liked the look of AOSP based ROMs so haven't bothered.
It's either the x90 pro plus or the vivo X fold plus for me. The ppi of X fold plus is only 360 ppi on an 8inch seems quite low and I'm not sure how images and icons will look on it compared to ~517ppi of the x90 pro plus.
The promise is only for funtouch OS, and while the x70 pro plus with funtouch OS got android 12 and 13, origin OS only got 13 and never 12....
With the x70pro+ the real precessor of the x90pro+ I would not hold much hope. Especially seeing it will enter March on December security update which for a new flagship is simply intolerable. Xiaomi and BBK seem to outdo each other in who can provide slower updates, but BBK clearly wins on the we can provide less major upgrades than any other major producer...
And no no bootloader unlock/root for x90 series! So no way for AOSP.
Probably about 2 years worth of steady updates and maybe one last year of small patches.
luontokoodaus said:
Probably about 2 years worth of steady updates and maybe one last year of small patches.
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Steady yes, but as shown so far that doesn't mean including security updates, nor major Android versions. It could well happen to x90pro+ origin OS 4 comes out on Android 13 instead of Android 14...
Like Huawei on some phones where they pushed updates updating next to nothing, even claiming to include security patches, and not including them (without root hard to asses, but in retroperspect you can notice it. E g huawei p30pro last 18 months only every second update actually included the claimed security patches - BBK and Xiaomi aren't good at fully integrating them either. Only google/Samsung are reliable there. However so far only Huawei outright didn't include anything of a claimed security patch).
my ex VIvo x70 pro plus received 3 Origin OS versions (1.0 - 2.0 - 3.0)
The X90 PP came out with OriginOS 3.0 (I think at least 2-3 major updates will be available)
But Origin OS 2.0 on the X70 Pro+ was based on Android 11 not 12!
Will it receive O OS 4.0? maybe, maybe not. Maybe based on Android 13...
I much rather keep the old rotten oranges OS but get a new Android version than the other way round.
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But Origin OS 2.0 on the X70 Pro+ was based on Android 11 not 12!
Will it receive O OS 4.0? maybe, maybe not. Maybe based on Android 13...
I much rather keep the old rotten oranges OS but get a new Android version than the other way round.
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I don't care much about the android version that mounts a specific interface
(Just look at huawei with its EMUI 13 which has only recently arrived with Android13)
Who wants the latest android that takes a Galaxy or Pixel, certainly not Vivo
The question in this thread here was however how many Android versions will it get.
And yeah - Huawei is a perfect example - I didn't see any improvements but just degradation for myself in EMUI updates - while missing all the goodies of new functionality offered by Android OS updates.
At least Vivo allows removing the stupid dual drop down status menu./quicksettings. Hated that on EMUI like the pest. I run Nova launcher - and the less I have to interfere with EMUI or rotten oranges the better!
Everyone here has different opinions on what is important.
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The question in this thread here was however how many Android versions will it get.
And yeah - Huawei is a perfect example - I didn't see any improvements but just degradation for myself in EMUI updates - while missing all the goodies of new functionality offered by Android OS updates.
At least Vivo allows removing the stupid dual drop down status menu./quicksettings. Hated that on EMUI like the pest. I run Nova launcher - and the less I have to interfere with EMUI or rotten oranges the better!
Everyone here has different opinions on what is important.
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To clarify that the latest "android version" doesn't mean it's better ... At least for me
bmw320cd said:
To clarify that the latest "android version" doesn't mean it's better ... At least for me
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There is one huge advantage of the latest android version - while most (especially Chinese and Indian) phone producers have been found to cheat on security updates and not include all of them - a major android version means you can be 100% assured that all old patches are included. Of course producers adapting the OS can create new holes apart from the AOSP source - but at least you know that those are fixed.
Man I've been researching for a month now the vivo X fold plus or the x90 pro plus as my next phone. Now I'm not so sure which one to buy. I would prefer the actual os upgrade with new features instead of origin os version upgrades without new features or missing security patches. It's all confusing.
Well when it comes to updates don't get a BBK phone. Even Xiaomi is slightly better and they really rally for who can be worse...
Asus and Motorola aren't great but a bit better.
Honor seems to be best on flagships for a Chinese company and their pricing isn't China halt price of the rest of the world but pretty similar...
Just to note, the x70 pro plus origin OS, which was just released last week manages to be on November security patch... Maybe they think half yearly is fine? I mean the phone is already 1.5 years old. Why would you want current updates on such an old phone? It's time to throw it away and get a new much better one....
Vivo promised 3 years of OS updates in china according to baidu.
Killuminati91 said:
Vivo promised 3 years of OS updates in china according to baidu.
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baidu is a search engine mainly, please provide your source. And OS fo Vivo means rotten Oranges not Android...
My nearly 4 year old P30Pro today got Android February security patches (after previously being on December patch) - X90Pro+ nothing to be seen...
I guess it will go straight to March Update. So right now the X90Pro+ seems on a 3 months update cycle - and that right after release....
Guess next year it will move to 6 months?
extremecarver said:
Just to note, the x70 pro plus origin OS, which was just released last week manages to be on November security patch... Maybe they think half yearly is fine? I mean the phone is already 1.5 years old. Why would you want current updates on such an old phone? It's time to throw it away and get a new much better one....
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The x70 pro plus last update bump security patch to February 2023
The X90 PP will follow shortly
bmw320cd said:
The x70 pro plus last update bump security patch to February 2023
The X90 PP will follow shortly
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Ah I guess this shortly is vivo speak for nothing happening in 17 days .. (and then the staged rollout using trial updates will take at least 7 days more for stable updates once it's ever published...
X90PP still having received a single security update since it was released (December patch end of December) likely that one was considered important as by that time many reviews written.
Stating something as a fact that doesn't happen...
Seems we have to be lucky if that crappy software with a 9.8 rated actively exploited bug is updated every three months. Sales of x90pro+ must have been dismal vs the expectations after the huge marketing campaign so now just treat it like a budget phone update wise...
Btw the march security patches by google include a fix for a zero day exploit which is actively exploited (full phone can be taken over, bug in the Samsung modem) and it's enough to know the telephone number of the user... Several vivo phones affected, amongst them x30,x50,x60 series... No patch yet for them.. Samsung and google published the updates for affected phones already, vivo hasn't. But yeah who cares, it's just a 9.8 /10 critical bug, right?
There was a 9.7 level bug in the February update that applies to the x90pp. It's very likely it's actively exploited too otherwise it would not get such a high score... This no update policy is simply a security nightmare by vivo.
Can only hope that google announces to remove certification for phones with slow updates else vivo likely won't improve...
BTW - the X90 Pro global version has already the March patches. It would be super unlikely if the X90pro+ ever receives an earlier patch level...
And I call it bull**** that it's difficult to implement a security patch (as long as it doesn't "fix" some bugs that you deliberately opened e.g. for spyware. The X90 Pro+ has March security updates and it was compiled on 1. March. Meaning within hours of the patch files being available Vivo had alredy compiled the finished version.
That's why Custom Android versions also always had the newest patches very quickly.
X90Pro+ is 3 months behind on security updates vs X90Pro and most other phones. it's pretty incredible. BBKs most expensive flagship phone and simply no updates...
bmw320cd said:
The x70 pro plus last update bump security patch to February 2023
The X90 PP will follow shortly
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Any idea when? Waiting for those patches so Google Wallet works.