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Hi,
I recently purchased a new xt1058 on ebay, it's the US model i belive, but LTE doesn't work in france.
xt1058 have 2/4/5/7/17 bands activated and LTE in france is 20.
Is there any way to change that ? Can I switch modem files from xt1052 rom (EU version) ?
I'm running kk 4.4.4 212.44.26.ghost_row.RCI.en.CA version.
Thanks!
According to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Europe
France carriers also use band 7 (along with 20). So if you have the proper carrier, you should be fine.
Emiliano55 said:
France carriers also use band 7 (along with 20). So if you have the proper carrier, you should be fine.
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I think the problem is that LTE on band 7 is only on 2600MHz, only band 20 use 800MHz in France
There are 2 different bands mate. One is 2600mhz and the other is 800Mhz. According to Wiki, there are carriers in France that uses 2600Mhz as frecuency for LTE. If that's the case, you should be fine. Look at the link I pasted before.
Emiliano55 said:
There are 2 different bands mate. One is 2600mhz and the other is 800Mhz. According to Wiki, there are carriers in France that uses 2600Mhz as frecuency for LTE. If that's the case, you should be fine. Look at the link I pasted before.
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The problem is the moto x use only 850/900/1900/2100 frequencies , not 2600 MHz.
Thibzzz said:
The problem is the moto x use only 850/900/1900/2100 frequencies , not 2600 MHz.
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Those are the 3G bands that the Moto X supports. Not LTE bands. You are confusing things here.
XT1058 uses LTE bands 2/4/5/7/17 (look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_(1st_generation)#Variants)
Hence, it uses 1900/1700/850/2600/700.
Many carriers in the EU use band 20 in most cities, the official reason is, band 20 covers more area and only band 7 is used in cluster areas, such as football stadiums, airports, central train stations etc.
At least thats what the German carriers say.
So its mainly an economic decision to use band 20 for regular urban areas and only use band 7 (which doesn't cover so much km²) in the cluster areas.
There is a user who is currently editing some files to enable software wise other LTE frequencies for the Droid, have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/droid-turbo-conquers-europe-t2995343/page3
This however, will only enable the LTE bands software wise, it hasn't been tested yet, if the LTE works then in the EU for band 20 or if its a hardware limitation or if you need to flash the EU modem, too
dagoban said:
Many carriers in the EU use band 20 in most cities, the official reason is, band 20 covers more area and only band 7 is used in cluster areas, such as football stadiums, airports, central train stations etc.
At least thats what the German carriers say.
So its mainly an economic decision to use band 20 for regular urban areas and only use band 7 (which doesn't cover so much km²) in the cluster areas.
There is a user who is currently editing some files to enable software wise other LTE frequencies for the Droid, have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/droid-turbo-conquers-europe-t2995343/page3
This however, will only enable the LTE bands software wise, it hasn't been tested yet, if the LTE works then in the EU for band 20 or if its a hardware limitation or if you need to flash the EU modem, too
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I tried to enable bands 3,7 and 20 on my XT1053 and it didn't work for me.
sanez said:
I tried to enable bands 3,7 and 20 on my XT1053 and it didn't work for me.
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What exactly did you try? Flashing the other radio / modem file or by unlocking it in the software or both?
dagoban said:
What exactly did you try? Flashing the other radio / modem file or by unlocking it in the software or both?
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I have since months xt1052 fw with 1053 radio and this allowed me to have Italian language and 3G/H+ working fine. xt1052 radio don't work at all on US devices.
Tried last week to enable bands modifying NV strings via QXDM but there's not effect. GSM and WCDMA are good, but no LTE. I guess is hw limitation, or some other NV items must be changed to get it working.
Emiliano55 said:
Those are the 3G bands that the Moto X supports. Not LTE bands. You are confusing things here.
XT1058 uses LTE bands 2/4/5/7/17
Hence, it uses 1900/1700/850/2600/700.
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Ok, thanks for the clarification
By the way, there is a nice wiki who talks about french LTE bands, and according to it, band 7 @2600Mhz is used by 3 carriers, including mine, but no LTE on my moto x...
As Dagoban said, carriers must mainly use band 20 @800mhz to cover large areas.
I'm a bit confused, they are going on about the 9t Pro coming out for Global market, but on Aliexpress there is a K20 Pro with 'Global Rom'.
If i was to buy one of these would it not work in New Zealand? I'm really keen on getting this phone but not sure what to buy.
According to this, it works perfectly with my provider 2Degrees
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-redmi-855
Thanks
NZ Razer said:
I'm a bit confused, they are going on about the 9t Pro coming out for Global market, but on Aliexpress there is a K20 Pro with 'Global Rom'.
If i was to buy one of these would it not work in New Zealand? I'm really keen on getting this phone but not sure what to buy.
According to this, it works perfectly with my provider 2Degrees
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-redmi-855
Thanks
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The K20 Pro does not have global network bands. Where it's sold with a global ROM, these are unofficial global ROMs, they do not and cannot add extra lte bands.
The Mi 9T, as well as coming with an official global ROM also had a few extra lte bands unlocked. The Mi 9T Pro will do the same, when it eventually arrives.
Looking at your carrier, it uses bands 3, 7 and 28 (maybe 40 too, but could have been a different NZ carrier). The K20 Pro is missing band 28.
Band 28 is a relatively low frequency band, these can travel further and penetrate obstacles better, before losing significant signal strength and quality. Quite often the low frequency bands are used in rural areas, where masts are spread widely, or major city centres that are very heavily built up.
NZ is a very sparsely populated country, so it's possible band 28 is heavily relied on outside of the town's and cities. But this is only my slightly educated guess. I would suggest doing some more homework on how much of the 2Degree network relies on band 28.
I imagine in and around towns and cities you'll have very little issues, but that's a small percent of the country.
Assuming the Mi 9T Pro will have the same bands as the Mi 9T, then it will come with band 28
Robbo.5000 said:
The K20 Pro does not have global network bands. Where it's sold with a global ROM, these are unofficial global ROMs, they do not and cannot add extra lte bands.
The Mi 9T, as well as coming with an official global ROM also had a few extra lte bands unlocked. The Mi 9T Pro will do the same, when it eventually arrives.
Looking at your carrier, it uses bands 3, 7 and 28 (maybe 40 too, but could have been a different NZ carrier). The K20 Pro is missing band 28.
Band 28 is a relatively low frequency band, these can travel further and penetrate obstacles better, before losing significant signal strength and quality. Quite often the low frequency bands are used in rural areas, where masts are spread widely, or major city centres that are very heavily built up.
NZ is a very sparsely populated country, so it's possible band 28 is heavily relied on outside of the town's and cities. But this is only my slightly educated guess. I would suggest doing some more homework on how much of the 2Degree network relies on band 28.
I imagine in and around towns and cities you'll have very little issues, but that's a small percent of the country.
Assuming the Mi 9T Pro will have the same bands as the Mi 9T, then it will come with band 28
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It says that 2degrees doesn't use B28, only other carriers in NZ. So that would mean its safe to assume it would work?
Thanks
NZ Razer said:
It says that 2degrees doesn't use B28, only other carriers in NZ. So that would mean its safe to assume it would work?
Thanks
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I checked on Wikipedia, however I was looking at the bands for Spark by mistake. 2Degrees uses 3, 8 and 28.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks?wprov=sfla1
Band 8 is on the K20 Pro and is also a low frequency band. So it could well be that it will work OK. However it is showing that band 8 was added to the 2Degrees network only last year, so might still be wise to see if you can find out how widespread band 8 is used on their network.
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A bit more reading. The 2Degree website FAQs confirms it uses the above 3 bands. Band 8 was previously used for their 2G network, but was freed up when they turned off 2G, which allowed them to use it for LTE. Maybe that will mean it's use is widespread.
I'm not sure about nz but it works perfectly fine here in Australia. The only band we use in Aus that it's missing is B20 which is very common. But fortunately if you're with Telstra in Aus they don't have any areas that only run on B20 so there's always something for me to connect to. I also live in a rural area.
So my advice is to check different areas all over nz to see what they support. I used a site called cellmapper to do this https://www.cellmapper.net
NZ Razer said:
I'm a bit confused, they are going on about the 9t Pro coming out for Global market, but on Aliexpress there is a K20 Pro with 'Global Rom'.
If i was to buy one of these would it not work in New Zealand? I'm really keen on getting this phone but not sure what to buy.
According to this, it works perfectly with my provider 2Degrees
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-redmi-855
Thanks
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Not sure about NZ, but in Australia it works. I'm with ALDI mobile which I guess is Telstra.
billybrownbear said:
I'm not sure about nz but it works perfectly fine here in Australia. The only band we use in Aus that it's missing is B20 which is very common. But fortunately if you're with Telstra in Aus they don't have any areas that only run on B20 so there's always something for me to connect to. I also live in a rural area.
So my advice is to check different areas all over nz to see what they support. I used a site called cellmapper to do this https://www.cellmapper.net
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Vladimir Lenin said:
Not sure about NZ, but in Australia it works. I'm with ALDI mobile which I guess is Telstra.
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I've gone ahead and purchased it as of an hour ago excited to get my hands on it, this makes me even more confident as your bands are the same pretty much. Can't wait!
billybrownbear said:
I'm not sure about nz but it works perfectly fine here in Australia. The only band we use in Aus that it's missing is B20 which is very common. But fortunately if you're with Telstra in Aus they don't have any areas that only run on B20 so there's always something for me to connect to. I also live in a rural area.
So my advice is to check different areas all over nz to see what they support. I used a site called cellmapper to do this https://www.cellmapper.net
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Australia use band 28, not 20.
Global version and chinese version are using same 4G bands so there won't be any problems.
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My Red Magic 3 arrived yesterday, must say very speedy delivery, 3 days only DHL express to Australia which was excellent.
I'm having trouble identifying the different models though, I've seen reference to a Chinese (CN), Global, EU but also 'NA' versions?
Not sure if some are the same thing? I'm concerned as from what I can tell, the EU version doesn't have LTE Band 28 (which I want) but the NA version does and I'm not sure what version I have other than it was branded NX629J.
https://global.redmagic.gg/pages/red-magic-3-specs (under 'Connectivity')
Can anyone assist please?
Texan1 said:
My Red Magic 3 arrived yesterday, must say very speedy delivery, 3 days only DHL express to Australia which was excellent.
I'm having trouble identifying the different models though, I've seen reference to a Chinese (CN), Global, EU but also 'NA' versions?
Not sure if some are the same thing? I'm concerned as from what I can tell, the EU version doesn't have LTE Band 28 (which I want) but the NA version does and I'm not sure what version I have other than it was branded NX629J.
https://global.redmagic.gg/pages/red-magic-3-specs (under 'Connectivity')
Can anyone assist please?
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There is no different between global versions. The only difference is the LTE Band as u said , thats it
No big difference , same Android pie 9
em902566 said:
There is no different between global versions. The only difference is the LTE Band as u said , thats it
No big difference , same Android pie 9
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Yes but the LTE bands can make a big difference! Two of the major Australian mobile carriers use Band 28 so I'm trying to work out which version of the Red Magic 3 I have and if it has that band.
Texan1 said:
Yes but the LTE bands can make a big difference! Two of the major Australian mobile carriers use Band 28 so I'm trying to work out which version of the Red Magic 3 I have and if it has that band.
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Try this link
https://global.redmagic.gg/blogs/news/red-magic-3-global-rom-flash-instructions
There is two version of global rom
Us is version 1.11
Europe version is 2.07
Well I have NA version but running EU Rom v2.09....when I run the CN Rom I don't get LTE just 4g. So if you not getting LTE then install your region global Rom.
LTE bands are a hardware limitation, not software, so it won't matter what rom I'm running.
I'm just trying to find out if my model has band 28 or not!
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...emium-edition-dual-sim-td-lte-cn-128gb-nx629j
In theory software and hardware, I will tell you In US on CN Rom no LTE just 4g....but on either Global I Get LTE.
Is it compatible with AT&T's 4G bands? Thanks.
I am testing too. I am using Telus in Canada, roaming in US is mostly T-Mobile though.
From what I can see, our version has LTE bands 2,4,5,7 only. It does not have 700MHz bands or 66 aka AWS-3, so we may have trouble in rural areas.
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Is it compatible with AT&T's 4G bands? Thanks.
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I'm using both t-mobile and ATT sim cards... t-mobile ha been working fine. at&t had been no good it's struggling with multimedia text messaging. Called both att and ways and nobody can fix it for now. Not sure if it's because of the dual setup. I've thing I noticed is that when I remove and replace the sun card manually it will work right for a few hours and then revert back.
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Having root the easiest way to have this is installing the app from the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rgm.oneplus8pro_ircamera
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HandBasket said:
I'm using both t-mobile and ATT sim cards... t-mobile ha been working fine. at&t had been no good it's struggling with multimedia text messaging. Called both att and ways and nobody can fix it for now. Not sure if it's because of the dual setup. I've thing I noticed is that when I remove and replace the sun card manually it will work right for a few hours and then revert back.
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Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Only 2 band out of the 4 bands are supported. I ended up getting the OnePlus 8 Pro. It's SD865 vs the SD865+ in the ROG3, but the lack of ATT band support dissuaded me.
Im using rog 3 with ATT and have no issues at all
awdrifter said:
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Only 2 band out of the 4 bands are supported. I ended up getting the OnePlus 8 Pro. It's SD865 vs the SD865+ in the ROG3, but the lack of ATT band support dissuaded me.
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Im not sure why your saying you only get 2 lte bands. If anything ROG 3 supports most ATT band.
Here's a link with further details on ATT bands along with ROG 3 specs.
Cheat sheet: which 4G LTE bands do AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint use in the USA?
What are the 4G LTE bands supported by AT&T in 2019? Do they differ from the 4G LTE bands that T-Mobile uses? And what about Verizon Wireless massive 4G LTE network and its supported frequency bands? And where is Sprint left in the 4G LTE picture? What Verizon bands are currently in use? What...
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Im not sure why your saying you only get 2 lte bands. If anything ROG 3 supports most ATT band.
Here's a link with further details on ATT bands along with ROG 3 specs.
Cheat sheet: which 4G LTE bands do AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint use in the USA?
What are the 4G LTE bands supported by AT&T in 2019? Do they differ from the 4G LTE bands that T-Mobile uses? And what about Verizon Wireless massive 4G LTE network and its supported frequency bands? And where is Sprint left in the 4G LTE picture? What Verizon bands are currently in use? What...
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That's the Global version, which is much more expensive than the CN version. I was looking at the 12GB RAM/256GB ROM CN version for $680. The equivalent Global version is $900+. I ended up getting a OnePlus 8 Pro 12/256 for $710.
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That's the Global version, which is much more expensive than the CN version. I was looking at the 12GB RAM/256GB ROM CN version for $680. The equivalent Global version is $900+. I ended up getting a OnePlus 8 Pro 12/256 for $710.
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For sure bud, well that's the one I got. I thought it would come with MIUI BUT IT DIDN'T
Hello Xiaomi community, I am using my Mi 11 ultra(Chinese - yet to flash EU rom) on T-mobile in US. I have a oneplus 8T as well which is connected to the same network. When I test these two mobiles, which are connected to HSDPA right next to each other, I get 40mbps download speeds on Oneplus 8t but only 10mbps on mi 11 ultra. Is mi 11 ultra or MiUi limiting the network bandwidth? Are there any settings that I can adjust to see the same speeds? Both seem to be connected on Band 2. Appreciate any help with this. @olkitu, please comment.
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Hello Xiaomi community, I am using my Mi 11 ultra(Chinese - yet to flash EU rom) on T-mobile in US. I have a oneplus 8T as well which is connected to the same network. When I test these two mobiles, which are connected to HSDPA right next to each other, I get 40mbps download speeds on Oneplus 8t but only 10mbps on mi 11 ultra. Is mi 11 ultra or MiUi limiting the network bandwidth? Are there any settings that I can adjust to see the same speeds? Both seem to be connected on Band 2. Appreciate any help with this. @olkitu, please comment.
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Thank you for the info @avetny . I have checked both the mobiles and here is what I see. Oneplus 8t mostly connected to LTE, and Mi 11 ultra switching between EDGE, HSPA and if I force the setting to NR/LTE only, it shows LTE but can't browse anything and no data connection at all. Am I missing something? Also am sitting right next to the TMobile 4g LTE personal cell booster box with both these mobiles
This is when mi 11 on EDGE n/w
This is when mi 11 on LTE (with 20mbps download speed)
This is oneplus 8t mostly connected to LTE with 60 to 100mbps download speeds
Restart device
When I get into that menu and I change the network type the setting doesn't stick,why?
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Restart device
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Tried with various settings few times. Am not sure why the connection stability is low and always switching from EDGE to HSPA to LTE where as oneplus rarely shows me HSDPA. I have a 4G LTE T mobile cell spot sitting right next to me.
In terms of the modem Mi 11 ultra has X60 where as oneplus 8t has X55
Check again settings.
Make sure 5G is preferred.
Make sure 5G Smart Switch is off.
This make help too: 5G battery saver is off.
lalith said:
Hello Xiaomi community, I am using my Mi 11 ultra(Chinese - yet to flash EU rom) on T-mobile in US. I have a oneplus 8T as well which is connected to the same network. When I test these two mobiles, which are connected to HSDPA right next to each other, I get 40mbps download speeds on Oneplus 8t but only 10mbps on mi 11 ultra. Is mi 11 ultra or MiUi limiting the network bandwidth? Are there any settings that I can adjust to see the same speeds? Both seem to be connected on Band 2. Appreciate any help with this. @olkitu, please comment.
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Well Xiaomi do not support Carrier Aggregation combinations and 5G used in US. Maybe SA only n41 could work but it's by default disabled outside from China.
OnePlus 8T is US model? You should buy device from your own region to avoid issues. As you know you can check on https://cacombos.com website supported bands and carrier aggregation combinations of devices. Make sure it support Carrier Aggregation combinations your carrier use on your area.
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Well Xiaomi do not support Carrier Aggregation combinations and 5G used in US. Maybe SA only n41 could work but it's by default disabled outside from China.
OnePlus 8T is US model? You should buy device from your own region to avoid issues. As you know you can check on https://cacombos.com website supported bands and carrier aggregation combinations of devices. Make sure it support Carrier Aggregation combinations your carrier use on your area.
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Thank you for the response, would flashing a Global ROM gets me all the Band combos? I understand changing the ROM is not going to get me the missing Band 66 from Chinese version phone, but atleast wondering if I flash, the combos listed on Global version would follow? or ROM flashing will not change any Combos? Thank you.
lalith said:
Thank you for the response, would flashing a Global ROM gets me all the Band combos? I understand changing the ROM is not going to get me the missing Band 66 from Chinese version phone, but atleast wondering if I flash, the combos listed on Global version would follow? or ROM flashing will not change any Combos? Thank you.
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Try the global or Eu ROM
The China one is full of headaches outside china
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Try the global or Eu ROM
The China one is full of headaches outside china
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Am trying NetMonster to see which cell tower and band(s) its connecting and if its using any combo bands. Typically the combo shows up like - (4G. LTE 1900+ AWS-A). I have not seen a combo so far on this with the Chinese ROM, but not sure if Global/EU ROM makes any difference. Unless the Global/EU ROM deals with Band Combos. Am yet to boot unlock, so could not do a quick try.
Were you able to get better speeds or use NetMonster to see Combo bands with Non Chinese ROM?
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Am trying NetMonster to see which cell tower and band(s) its connecting and if its using any combo bands. Typically the combo shows up like - (4G. LTE 1900+ AWS-A). I have not seen a combo so far on this with the Chinese ROM, but not sure if Global/EU ROM makes any difference. Unless the Global/EU ROM deals with Band Combos. Am yet to boot unlock, so could not do a quick try.
Were you able to get better speeds or use NetMonster to see Combo bands with Non Chinese ROM?
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I had great speeds on every ROM but In my city they only use band 78 for 5G and I get about 250-300mb even without line of sight of the antenna, even I'm a restaurant or a mall it's that fast
i haven't been able to spot a 5G tower yet so I can test one in direct line of sight of it but I've read you can get about 700mb/s
speedtripler said:
I had great speeds on every ROM but In my city they only use band 78 for 5G and I get about 250-300mb even without line of sight of the antenna, even I'm a restaurant or a mall it's that fast
i haven't been able to spot a 5G tower yet so I can test one in direct line of sight of it but I've read you can get about 700mb/s
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Wow, that's crazy speed. Never heard of those kind of speeds in US. I wish the phone manufacturers just let the users decide what bands they want to enable in their region if the phone is high-end latest and greatest
Not always but here in london at my place i get 500+Mbps