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Hi!
I want to ask. And forgive my question. Some possibility of root Note 9 N960U & N960U1?
I know that many here are bothered by these types of questions.
galdypr said:
Hi!
I want to ask. And forgive my question. Some possibility of root Note 9 N960U & N960U1?
I know that many here are bothered by these types of questions.
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It is not available, and there is a high probability that it never will be available.
For example there is still no root for S9/S9+ in U version.
VadimTk said:
It is not available, and there is a high probability that it never will be available.
For example there is still no root for S9/S9+ in U version.
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Thanks for answer. If the USA version It is so complicated to root, then I will buy exynos version. Personally I like the devices that I can have control and rooted.
We are bothered by the questions because it seems like every person creating a new thread asking about it seems like they will get a different answer if they create their own thread about it.
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We are bothered by the questions because it seems like every person creating a new thread asking about it seems like they will get a different answer if they create their own thread about it.
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I asked because I have not seen a thread with that question. But, my apologies if they bother here to.
In my case, and where I work, it has never bothered me that they ask me the same thing, because I like to help people.
Thanks!
As far as I now, S9 and S9+ snapdragon versions are still not rooted.
There is at least 1 guy searching for root but so far, no progress.
So, maybe s845 Note 9 will get root someday but don't have high hopes about that and if root really matter to you, I will advise you to buy another phone.
I strongly advise buying the exynos version now, or buying another device if updates and such will be a big deal. I had the same concerns, this is my first unrooted Android device I am considering purchasing, and I have to make the decision based on what is most probable, root not being an option. Otherwise, you'll be pissed the entire time you have the device that you let yourself fall into the hope trap.
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I will wait few months, as it happened with note 8, that a root for the snapdragon came out, if the root does not come out with note 9 snapdragon, I follow your advice and buy the version with Exynos. Thanks! ?
I do not know, but with so much developer here in XDA and other forums; there must be some way to unlock the bootloader. Or is have to pay for it, or beg of carrier companies??
galdypr said:
I will wait few months, as it happened with note 8, that a root for the snapdragon came out, if the root does not come out with note 9 snapdragon, I follow your advice and buy the version with Exynos. Thanks! [emoji3]
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I asked the OP of that thread a month ago and he confirmed that that root method can not be done on the S9, S9+ or NOTE9, which means that the device will most likely never be rooted, unless Samsung suddenly, randomly, allows for the bootloader to be unlocked.
I upgraded to the Snapdragon Note9 anyway though myself. I found that I didn't really miss root all that much on my Note8 and didn't want my battery on my new phone to only charge to 80% by using SamFAIL, so I just got the non-carrier branded one this time to cut down on some of the bloat. I could've went Exynos, but in the past I'd mainly only used root to put other roms on the device and maybe clear out some space, but the Note9 comes with 128gb internal minimum with the potential of an up to 512gb sd card, which is plenty of space for me to just disable a few apps. Most of the roms too most often didn't have the air command features for the spen(or most of the other functionality that Samsung devices are supposed to have) and the pen is why I buy the Notes in the first place. The ones that did try and incorporate those features(including the Touchwiz roms) always still had other problems too, so I most often found myself going back to stock anyway.
Frankly, it's just been nice having a device where Samsung Pay and everything else just works. I've had the unrootable Snapdragon Note9 for a month now and I love it. It has tons of features that the Note8 didn't have, like an spen that works as a wireless bluetooth remote for your camera, music and other apps, as well as more space, a better battery and more. That's just my take though.
galdypr said:
Hi!
I want to ask. And forgive my question. Some possibility of root Note 9 N960U & N960U1?
I know that many here are bothered by these types of questions.
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Not so much bothered by questions (even if they have been asked 100 times over like this one lol) more so people refuse to use the search function.
If you had of done so you wouldn't have needed to even ask.
Dont be afraid to try and help yourself sometimes, its not that painful.
But yeah as the guys said....never going to happen
I took the advice of several users of the forum, I bought the note version exynos. And I did not break the my Head, Waiting for someone to get Root the Note 9 USA Version
The other note 9 I want to sell it by ebay or by Swppa.
galdypr said:
I took the advice of several users of the forum, I bought the note version exynos. And I did not break the my Head, Waiting for someone to get Root the Note 9 USA Version
The other note 9 I want to sell it by ebay or by Swppa.
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The USA version is never going to see root.
I didn't understand what you said about the exynos other than your selling it? Why?
galdypr said:
I do not know, but with so much developer here in XDA and other forums; there must be some way to unlock the bootloader. Or is have to pay for it, or beg of carrier companies??
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Carrier companies do not have control over bootloader locks. I have tried going through them in the past about this and they have no clue what you are talking about unless you get lucky and get a person that knows about root and even if that does happen they can't and won't help you with it. It has to be done by manufacturers.
galdypr said:
Thanks for answer. If the USA version It is so complicated to root, then I will buy exynos version. Personally I like the devices that I can have control and rooted.
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Have you considered the N9600, international version? It has the SD845 processor (like the U and U1) and root/TWRP are already available. Knox gets tripped, of course, but that only negates Samsung Pay and a couple others.
Just having a little trouble locating units for sale (at good prices) here on mainland US.
Forgetting N960U and N960U1! I bought N960N!! And my problem resolved! Finally I got root!! ?
q2n said:
Have you considered the N9600, international version? It has the SD845 processor (like the U and U1) and root/TWRP are already available. Knox gets tripped, of course, but that only negates Samsung Pay and a couple others.
Just having a little trouble locating units for sale (at good prices) here on mainland US.
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Just to figure out my info on versions is correct... I thought N9600 (with Snapdragon) is the Hong Kong version (i.e. not "international" or "global"), and N960F (with Exynos) is for "global"/europe (although it seems to have different band lists for UK). (I'm not considering rootability etc., just the target market / naming.)
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Just to figure out my info on versions is correct... I thought N9600 (with Snapdragon) is the Hong Kong version (i.e. not "international" or "global"), and N960F (with Exynos) is for "global"/europe (although it seems to have different band lists for UK). (I'm not considering rootability etc., just the target market / naming.)
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So the 960F model has different radio / bands for UK market compared to the 960F sold in mainland Europe? I doubt it.
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Limeybastard said:
So the 960F model has different radio / bands for UK market compared to the 960F sold in mainland Europe? I doubt it.
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Personally, I have no idea. I read it on this page: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
I found another list (much shorter one) that does not have separate entry for UK. Maybe the longer list simply lists bands that are active in the region (e.g. if there are bands in use in UK that aren't used elsewhere in europe even if the phone would support them).
Not relevant to this topic (rooting U/U1), though, I just noted it for the peculiarity of seeing that difference for the same model code.
6thtry said:
Personally, I have no idea. I read it on this page: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
I found another list (much shorter one) that does not have separate entry for UK. Maybe the longer list simply lists bands that are active in the region (e.g. if there are bands in use in UK that aren't used elsewhere in europe even if the phone would support them).
Not relevant to this topic (rooting U/U1), though, I just noted it for the peculiarity of seeing that difference for the same model code.
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Personally how I verify bands used it to go to samsungs website for that country to check specs for a particular model number.
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It's my understanding that these are not US models and therefore can not use many features like Samsung pay. But mine was purchased in the US, by a US trailer (Rent A Center). I really would like to USE all of these features, which I guess I can do by fishing a firmware? If so which would be the one to flash to use on GSM networks? I hear also that this model can be rooted, is that possible if I install another versions firmware? Is there any guides to the firmware and rooting available for the n9600?
Bumping this. I'm frustrated with how locked down this phone is to where I can't even use Samsung Pay.
This screen shot is my information. I'm looking through the Snapdragon section. I'm not wanting to be rooted especially if I still won't be able to use Samsung Pay. Can someone please point me in the right direction?
After comprehending the HUGE differences between the performance of the Exynos and Snapdragon model (thanks to Anandtech and Gary Explains YouTube), I am thinking of buying the Snapdragon model from U.S. and importing it to India. Wanted to know wether or not is it worth it, the hassles of doing so, and is there a better option than Amazon for it ?
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After comprehending the HUGE differences between the performance of the Exynos and Snapdragon model (thanks to Anandtech and Gary Explains YouTube), I am thinking of buying the Snapdragon model from U.S. and importing it to India. Wanted to know wether or not is it worth it, the hassles of doing so, and is there a better option than Amazon for it ?
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I would strongly advise not going down this route. I did the exact same thing with my previous S8. What Samsung don't tell you is that they include a region lock on their devices. In order to remove the lock, you need to use 5 minutes of call time in that particular country to unlock it. I purchased my phone in the US and initially and used the phone to get the unlock, without any knowledge. The issues arose when I brought it back to the UK and flashed my own firmware. In this case, a beta firmware update. By doing my own flash, it then reset the lock removing access to the galaxy app store, samsung pay and a number of other apps.
You can find an example of this by simply googling samsung region lock.
If it's simply a performance issue, I would stick with the Exynos processor. My note 9 has had no issues in performance whatsoever and would strongly recommend the phone.
AFewLads said:
I would strongly advise not going down this route. I did the exact same thing with my previous S8. What Samsung don't tell you is that they include a region lock on their devices. In order to remove the lock, you need to use 5 minutes of call time in that particular country to unlock it. I purchased my phone in the US and initially and used the phone to get the unlock, without any knowledge. The issues arose when I brought it back to the UK and flashed my own firmware. In this case, a beta firmware update. By doing my own flash, it then reset the lock removing access to the galaxy app store, samsung pay and a number of other apps.
You can find an example of this by simply googling samsung region lock.
If it's simply a performance issue, I would stick with the Exynos processor. My note 9 has had no issues in performance whatsoever and would strongly recommend the phone.
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Thank You AFewLads for bringing this issue to the fore and potentially saving me a lot of money !!! Btw, just for my curiosity (and probably a few others), what did you do with your S8 then ?
I consider myself an optimist and I want to stay positive. Honestly the main reason I opted for the Galaxy S10 was due to root support and phone development vs LG G series. I really am loving the performance of my phone. I've been rooting since the 1st Galaxy came out with help from this forum. I just hate to give up hope because there had always been some brilliant mind or mind(s) to crack through the barriers.
Just sucks all the other versions get to enjoy making their phone a little more fabulous than my US Sprint version ?
Thanks!
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I consider myself an optimist and I want to stay positive. Honestly the main reason I opted for the Galaxy S10 was due to root support and phone development vs LG G series. I really am loving the performance of my phone. I've been rooting since the 1st Galaxy came out with help from this forum. I just hate to give up hope because there had always been some brilliant mind or mind(s) to crack through the barriers.
Just sucks all the other versions get to enjoy making their phone a little more fabulous than my US Sprint version ?
Thanks!
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It's been a given fact that the US Snapdragon wont get root and it's been a well known fact for quite a while now. You should have opted for another model if you wanted root.
Well some of that was also dependent on those engineering kernels that got leaked on the last two models the Galaxy 8 & 9. Some devs were able to build off of that.
Tel864 said:
It's been a given fact that the US Snapdragon wont get root and it's been a well known fact for quite a while now. You should have opted for another model if you wanted root.
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True. I will say I haven't had a Galaxy since S6 but I would always see support for Galaxy. I wasn't interested in the S9 as much so I wasn't aware of how restricted it had become. Over the years I've had Motorola X play, LG series and Axon. As I said I assumed someone would break they the barrier. I remember the 1st root breaking through Knox or finding a work around. Then the bounty collected to root other versions as they became more difficult. It's just weird how US would be so dogmatically restrictive. But it's not an end all for me. I love my phone and how it doesn't lag even with 20 apps open.
P personally don't think root is needed too much on the S10
Was there any hope in the first place?
North American Samsung are known to be locked, only a fool would waste time finding way to root it when 99% of the world use a different version that is already possible to root.
I came from S7 exynos rooted with Magisk, and was very reluctant to swtich out, but I needed modern radio so I took the leap with the S10e. Got the 256GB U1 version, flashed with Tmo U firmware, and I'm 99% set. Giving certain permissions via ADB to MacroDroid and other apps is so far enough (e. g. set lock timeout to forever when on home WiFi, effectively doing the same as some rooted solution, etc.)
The 1% that I still really wish I could have? Titanium Backup. Migrating phone with TiBu is so much easier, and it's more reliable too. I wish Android allows more flexibility to power users on this (Google or Samsung backup is still not good enough).
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P personally don't think root is needed too much on the S10
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It's not, but some people think they have to have it.
Just in case, what's people suggestion?
In case we still able to return the phone, should we do it?
Does it seems some option for Snapdragon version in future, or better to give up and stockpile a return to the company?
For me, unlocked bootloader is a must, in order to remove crapware (like Bixby), remove Google, or just to get future support after Samsung declares it an "outdated device"
Suggestions?
supergear said:
P personally don't think root is needed too much on the S10
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Swift support and REAL call recording is still needed by many users, including me. Sucks that they both now need root. I wish I could use Oreo on this S10, lol!
dtowngs4g said:
Just sucks all the other versions get to enjoy making their phone a little more fabulous than my US Sprint version
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I feel you dude, sucks that North Americans can't enjoy the same freedoms on the S10 compared to literally anywhere else. Doesn't make sense. I've always assumed that it was the US variants that can be easily unlocked? Perhaps because it uses the snapdragon chip, which I assumed was more easy to 'manipulate' than on Exynos chips?
The U.S. S10 Sprint 5G version can be rooted. The U.S. S9's just got root not too long ago. As for the other U.S. variants of the S10, root will probably never come to fruition.
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The U.S. S10 Sprint 5G version can be rooted. The U.S. S9's just got root not too long ago. As for the other U.S. variants of the S10, root will probably never come to fruition.
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That's why I ended up getting a exynos verison for cricket lol
Always research if a device has root before buying it. Also if you want them to stop locking the bootloaders for the US variants start buying international exynos models so you can have root and maybe they will notice not as many US units selling due to locked bootloaders and will stop locking them, I doubt it but you never know.
Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone had any luck in rooting the Samsung S10 5G TMobile phone (SM-G977T) ? If yes, could you kindly share some pointers that can help in this regards ?
I am asking because, this phone is a coming with a Qualcomm 855 processor, and I have come across articles stating that Qualcomm made it hard to unlock the bootloader. Rooting this phone is not as easy as rooting the Exynos Samsung phones. I was wondering how long it might take before a developer comes up with a cool solution to root the phone.
Does anyone know if any past Qualcomm powered phones could be rooted, and how long did it take for a developer to come up with a solution for such a phone?
Thanks much !
I'm asking cause I dont know if he flashes to Sprint with the bootloader unlocked. Would that make him possible to root then flash back to Tmobile, and keep it?
Same question about Rooting Samsung S10 5 , Sprint version
Hi All,
I also have the same question about rooting Samsung S10 5G *Sprint* phones. Could anyone root a Samsung S10 5G Sprint phone ?
From what I know the Sprint phone can be booter unlocked easily, but has anyone come up with a rooted firmware for Sprint Samsung S10 5G phone ? If yes, it will be very helpful if you could kindly provide some pointers in this regards.
Thanks much !
MobiEnthusiast said:
Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone had any luck in rooting the Samsung S10 5G TMobile phone (SM-G977T) ? If yes, could you kindly share some pointers that can help in this regards ?
I am asking because, this phone is a coming with a Qualcomm 855 processor, and I have come across articles stating that Qualcomm made it hard to unlock the bootloader. Rooting this phone is not as easy as rooting the Exynos Samsung phones. I was wondering how long it might take before a developer comes up with a cool solution to root the phone.
Does anyone know if any past Qualcomm powered phones could be rooted, and how long did it take for a developer to come up with a solution for such a phone?
Thanks much !
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The answer to all these questions is No, No, and No.
When looking for new phone to be rooted, make sure to do some research before buying one, so you don't end up waiting (possible forever).
As far as ETA for when root might be available is a similar question as asking "when are you going to die?", maybe tomorrow maybe in 50 years. lol
Just to give you some idea about ETA's, no Qualcomm bootloader has ever been unlocked so far, and the only rooting solution is by using an engineering bootloader with a script to push SuperSU to system. The last Qualcomm (Snapdragon) phones which were rootable were up to and including model S8 (S7 really which is actually decent). Course all the international Exynos based ones are all rootable.
billa said:
The answer to all these questions is No, No, and No.
When looking for new phone to be rooted, make sure to do some research before buying one, so you don't end up waiting (possible forever).
As far as ETA for when root might be available is a similar question as asking "when are you going to die?", maybe tomorrow maybe in 50 years. lol
Just to give you some idea about ETA's, no Qualcomm bootloader has ever been unlocked so far, and the only rooting solution is by using an engineering bootloader with a script to push SuperSU to system. The last Qualcomm (Snapdragon) phones which were rootable were up to and including model S8 (S7 really which is actually decent). Course all the international Exynos based ones are all rootable.
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your comment about any snapdragons ever being unlocked is false..
a more accurate statement would be USA snaps but also the sprint s10 5g (g977p) is a usa sd variant and is unlockable..
also eng firmware/root isnt really possible anymore either.. i have full eng firm for g975u rev1 and it was useless.. only way to use it for root is by obtaining an eng token
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I'm asking cause I dont know if he flashes to Sprint with the bootloader unlocked. Would that make him possible to root then flash back to Tmobile, and keep it?
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no.. sprint and tmo are two different devices and firmware is not interchangeableone is a G977T and the other a G977P
MobiEnthusiast said:
Hi All,
I also have the same question about rooting Samsung S10 5G *Sprint* phones. Could anyone root a Samsung S10 5G Sprint phone ?
From what I know the Sprint phone can be booter unlocked easily, but has anyone come up with a rooted firmware for Sprint Samsung S10 5G phone ? If yes, it will be very helpful if you could kindly provide some pointers in this regards.
Thanks much !
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you dont see anything for it bcuz hardly no one has it.. they are unpopular and sprint doesnt sell many of them.. around me u cant even get them in stores lol
elliwigy said:
your comment about any snapdragons ever being unlocked is false..
a more accurate statement would be USA snaps but also the sprint s10 5g (g977p) is a usa sd variant and is unlockable..
also eng firmware/root isnt really possible anymore either.. i have full eng firm for g975u rev1 and it was useless.. only way to use it for root is by obtaining an eng token
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Hi Elliwigy,
Do you know where we can get eng tokens from ? Thanks much !
elliwigy said:
your comment about any snapdragons ever being unlocked is false..
a more accurate statement would be USA snaps but also the sprint s10 5g (g977p) is a usa sd variant and is unlockable..
also eng firmware/root isnt really possible anymore either.. i have full eng firm for g975u rev1 and it was useless.. only way to use it for root is by obtaining an eng token
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Well, my statement wasn't far off, since starting with the S7 though the S10 series none of the US Snapdragon bootloaders were unlockable, till the recent discovery of the one and only Sprint S10 G977P, which might just be a fluke and can easily be locked up by Sprint via a firmware upgrade... Just sayin' lol
So, looks like the G977P can be rooted via this method (the Exynos method may be used as a guide) https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10-5g/how-to/root-recovery-roms-guide-info-t3957211 But time will tell if this root is stable enough as a daily driver without any issues.
In case anyone wants one at the cheap price of about 800 bucks, here WAS one available lol > https://swappa.com/listing/view/LRVI96993
I was just wondering, is it possible to cross flash the G977P with G977U (VZW) or G977T (TMO) like it was possible with pretty much all the other models in recent years? Does it give a bootloader error when trying to do so? Any tricks to push it through? What's stopping the S9/S10 series from being rooted via the eng-boot/script method, what has changed since the S7/S8 series? Perhaps the merging of the BL (boot.img) into AP (system.img)?
I can already imagine the answers ringing out loud... No! No! and No! Not possible! lol
Strangely they don't even have an unbranded "U1" firmware available for this model so far.
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Well, my statement wasn't far off, since starting with the S7 though the S10 series none of the US Snapdragon bootloaders were unlockable, till the recent discovery of the one and only Sprint S10 G977P, which might just be a fluke and can easily be locked up by Sprint via a firmware upgrade... Just sayin' lol
So, looks like the G977P can be rooted via this method (the Exynos method may be used as a guide) https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10-5g/how-to/root-recovery-roms-guide-info-t3957211 But time will tell if this root is stable enough as a daily driver without any issues.
In case anyone wants one at the cheap price of about 800 bucks, here WAS one available lol > https://swappa.com/listing/view/LRVI96993
I was just wondering, is it possible to cross flash the G977P with G977U (VZW) or G977T (TMO) like it was possible with pretty much all the other models in recent years? Does it give a bootloader error when trying to do so? Any tricks to push it through? What's stopping the S9/S10 series from being rooted via the eng-boot/script method, what has changed since the S7/S8 series? Perhaps the merging of the BL (boot.img) into AP (system.img)?
I can already imagine the answers ringing out loud... No! No! and No! Not possible! lol
Strangely they don't even have an unbranded "U1" firmware available for this model so far.
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pretty sure u cant cross flash carrier specific models.. at least i cant on my n976v
elliwigy said:
pretty sure u cant cross flash carrier specific models.. at least i cant on my n976v
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Well, that kind of sucks, it was nice to be able to flash the U/U1 on the S7 though the S10 (excluding the G977x), and having a nice unbloated system.
Wonder if this restriction has been imposed on the G977x QC models only?
Have your tried to root your Sprint G977P yet?