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Would a request for a copy of this apk from a non-Android One version belong here or in the MOTO X4 THEMES, APPS, AND MODS section? It seems like that's all that should be needed to get the multi-broadcast Bluetooth feature working on an Android One (Project Fi) Moto X4.
Android N doesn't support it. O does. Once the Android One version gets updated to O, probably won't even need the files from the "standard" version.
I'd also be interested about this. Was disappointed to learn this was excluded from the Android One version.
souleman said:
Android N doesn't support it. O does. Once the Android One version gets updated to O, probably won't even need the files from the "standard" version.
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This is not an Oreo feature. It's running on the Retail version now (Nougat). Motorola is calling it "Wireless Sound System". I'm not even entirely sure its a true Bluetooth product. You have to be on a 5 GHz WiFi to use more than one speaker.
DiDGR8 said:
This is not an Oreo feature. It's running on the Retail version now (Nougat). Motorola is calling it "Wireless Sound System". I'm not even entirely sure its a true Bluetooth product. You have to be on a 5 GHz WiFi to use more than one speaker.
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So the Moto version actually needs wifi speakers to work, not Bluetooth?
Bluetooth 5.0 supports multiple speakers, and is part of Android O. So once O is on our device (and you find Bluetooth 5 compliant speakers), then we should have this feature.
That sound better?
souleman said:
So the Moto version actually needs wifi speakers to work, not Bluetooth?
Bluetooth 5.0 supports multiple speakers, and is part of Android O. So once O is on our device (and you find Bluetooth 5 compliant speakers), then we should have this feature.
That sound better?
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Motorola's documentation says that WSS uses BT speakers. It also says the WiFi band in use makes a difference in the number of BT speakers you can connect to.
All I can guess is that 2.4GHz transmissions (BT and WiFi) don't play well together in the SD630's SOC modems. It's really confusing.
Besides, nobody is selling BT 5 speakers yet and I haven't seen anything that mentions multiple speaker support. Longer range, yes. Lower power, yes. If multiple speaker support is included, I've missed it.
souleman said:
So the Moto version actually needs wifi speakers to work, not Bluetooth?
Bluetooth 5.0 supports multiple speakers, and is part of Android O. So once O is on our device (and you find Bluetooth 5 compliant speakers), then we should have this feature.
That sound better?
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Motorola's documentation says that WSS uses BT speakers. It also says the WiFi band in use makes a difference in the number of BT speakers you can connect to.
All I can guess is that 2.4GHz transmissions (BT and WiFi) don't play well together in the SD630's SOC modems. It's really confusing.
Also, NOBODY is selling BT 5 speakers yet that I can find.
It is not an app in the drawer on retail X4 firmware. It is accessed through the Settings menu, in Wireless & networks under 'Wireless Sound System'. Once entered, it reads:
Using Wireless Sound System, you can listen to audio on up to 4 Bluetooth devices individually, or bring them together for a stereo setup.
Wireless Sound System overrides you phone's Bluetooth, so non-audio Bluetooth devices will pause while it's engaged.
This feature works best when your device is connected to Wi-Fi 5.0 GHz networks. You can only connect 1 Bluetooth speaker over Wi-Fi 2.4 GHz networks. Phone call routing is not supported at this time.
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I believe it is the MotoSound.apk in the system A partition (system/priv-app), but I could be wrong. It can be extracted from the 7.1.1. retail firmware posted on that thread, or someone with a retail X4 device could extract it. I am uncertain as to whether this apk alone would be sufficient to enable what you are asking for on a non-retail X4 device. It may be more complicated than a single apk file, particularly given how accessing it appears to be integrated into the settings menu rather than accessed through the app drawer.
Good luck!
8711 said:
It is not an app in the drawer on retail X4 firmware. It is accessed through the Settings menu, in Wireless & networks under 'Wireless Sound System'. Once entered, it reads:
I believe it is the MotoSound.apk in the system A partition (system/priv-app), but I could be wrong. It can be extracted from the 7.1.1. retail firmware posted on that thread, or someone with a retail X4 device could extract it. I am uncertain as to whether this apk alone would be sufficient to enable what you are asking for on a non-retail X4 device. It may be more complicated than a single apk file, particularly given how accessing it appears to be integrated into the settings menu rather than accessed through the app drawer.
Good luck!
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I can't seem to find a copy of the firmware for me to attempt this. Search hasn't yielded a viable link that completes the download. Could you link me to where I can grab firmware to attempt extraction?
I know this is off topic but any chance of this feature coming to G5 Plus ?
kkn14 said:
I know this is off topic but any chance of this feature coming to G5 Plus ?
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you're right, it is really off topic. however, to give you an answer, no, there is absolutely no chance of that happening.
bombaglad said:
you're right, it is really off topic. however, to give you an answer, no, there is absolutely no chance of that happening.
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Even with root or a hacked app?
Sorry for OT
kkn14 said:
Even with root or a hacked app?
Sorry for OT
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Please start a thread in the G5 Plus forum, not here. Thanks.
Moto X4 and Tempow (multi speaker sound system) availability
hi all, is Tempow still Moto X4 "Retail" exclusive, or did it get added to "Android One" P build yet?
i'm waiting on Android One version of the Moto X4 to arrive, and from what i've read, it is possible to easily switch between "Retail" and "Android One" OS.
as this thread and a lot of info seems a bit stale, thought i'd check in about Moto X4 and Tempow (multi speaker sound system) availability to start downloading if necessary, thanks.
DiDGR8 said:
Would a request for a copy of this apk from a non-Android One version belong here or in the MOTO X4 THEMES, APPS, AND MODS section? It seems like that's all that should be needed to get the multi-broadcast Bluetooth feature working on an Android One (Project Fi) Moto X4.
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Link of Apk apptized(launch icon)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10a2JZu9Tc32rjDrBx-05mTgHYD1_QiIn/view?usp=drivesdk
I've just ordered a Nokia 8 because I thought it ticked all my boxes, but worryingly now that I've paid for it (it hasn't arrived yet) I see that I forgot to check for AptX codec, and I use aptx bluetooth headphones extensively. GSM Arena and other spec sites say that it does not have AptX.
Schoolboy error there, but I've not owned a phone without aptx for years, going back to the Xperia Z1
Hoping for some news that it's possible, maybe with the Oreo update?
Qualcomm are bragging about how aptx is coded in silicone on the 835 too
HarpingOn said:
. GSM Arena and other spec sites say that it does not have AptX.
Hoping for some news that it's possible, maybe with the Oreo update?
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You can change the codec to aptx Codec in dev options
Powered by Nokia 8
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17ZEO3DxWpkAkMS3BpKcMFUcQsx3g0yWt/view?usp=drivesdk
As stated above I believe this is what you're looking for
https://youtu.be/Cyjpf_DF0FE?t=3m40s
kunjar said:
As stated above I believe this is what you're looking for
https://youtu.be/Cyjpf_DF0FE?t=3m40s
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A commentator on reddit claims these are null-ops on Nokia 8, that the options don't stick if you exit the menu and come back in, and they don't make any difference.
I guess Nokia just didn't pay the license fee, and due to the locked bootloader we can't twrp flash a driver file (or, can we somehow?)
I'll have to wait until I get the Oreo update to test it myself, UK hasn't got that yet
Same here, I didn't think of checking whether such an advanced phone as the N8 supported aptX...has there been any progress on this issue?
It doesn't support AptX, if you select it, leave the menu and then go back in it will have deselected it as it is unsupported.
Right and while streaming music to aptX headphones you can see that selecting aptX does not actually switch the stream, you can only switch between sbc and aac.
Maybe Pie will change that like it did on the Nokia 7 apparently...
Hi all,
Would like to check if there is any way of installing APTX-HD on rooted note 9?
I've tried multiple methods including APTX for Android Oreo & Pie from Magisk.
May i know if anybody has gotten it to work?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you very much!
Current ROM: The Galaxy Project Ver 1.7.0
ffakingdom said:
Hi all,
Would like to check if there is any way of installing APTX-HD on rooted note 9?
I've tried multiple methods including APTX for Android Oreo & Pie from Magisk.
May i know if anybody has gotten it to work?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you very much!
Current ROM: The Galaxy Project Ver 1.7.0
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From what i heard APTX-HD will not work correctly on a Note 9! As it needs to send tons of bluetooth packets it will skip cut out etc, that's why the devs did not include it! LDAC is the best, stick with that codec!
ffakingdom said:
Hi all,
Would like to check if there is any way of installing APTX-HD on rooted note 9?
I've tried multiple methods including APTX for Android Oreo & Pie from Magisk.
May i know if anybody has gotten it to work?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you very much!
Current ROM: The Galaxy Project Ver 1.7.0
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I have several apt-x HD supported devices and I never got it to work. LDAC support is fantastic, as is standard APT-X.
Using sony WH-1000xm2 when selecting SBC, AAC, APT-X or LDAC from developer options will briefly stop the sound whilst it jumps to that codec, no such luck with APT-X HD. I don't believe that the codec is actually implemented on the Note9.
AptX-HD was supported on the Oreo version of the Note9.
I have two Level Pro headphones and after the Android Pie update lost the UHQ audio function from the Level app.
If you looked, you got LDAC and SBC, no AptX or HD.
Then I submit a bug report and they only brought back AptX on the latest version.
I think Samsung it's just trying to push their new Buds as the Level brand is being discounted in many markets.
Also Video Pro Mode was available on the Note9 and removed on the Pie update.
Now I can add my wife had the S8 Plus and she lost the UHQ audio from her Level app.
She went back to Apple at this time as they have better codec support.
Personally I am planning to get the Xperia that has 4K screen and yes, a long list of audio codecs and features.
Samsung keeps playing games, Qualcomm still supports Apt LL and HD, the hardware supports it but it is Samsung decision to remove it.
What's happening with aptx support in Android 10?
When Samsung removed AptX in Android Pie, I send an actual bug report with their support team, it was a pain, because they ask you to reset it then jump hoops.
At the end, they acknowledged that AptX should be "At least supported" because their line of Level headphones run on AptX and AptX HD.
Then I can say, with the next update, they added AptX to the list of supported codec.
Sony and many others are pushing LDAC for their headphones so probably just drop Samsung.
bluefish196 said:
with the next update, they added AptX to the list of supported codec.
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Are you saying that in Andoid 10 they have added AptX support to the Galaxy Note 9 again?
Are you sure?
If this is true, this is great news
ivo777 said:
Are you saying that in Andoid 10 they have added AptX support to the Galaxy Note 9 again?
Are you sure?
If this is true, this is great news
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I'm on a Sprint Note9(Snapdragon) UI. 2.0. Android 10.
The big difference is AptX supports 16Bit 48KHz and AptXhd support 24Bits also 48 KHz.
Here screenshots.
I am hoping someone can take on the project to write a mod that allows Pixel 5, Android OS 12, to play audio on two separate Bluetooth devices at the same time like Samsung. I recently bought a Woojer Strap Edge for audio haptic feedback, it connects wired or via Bluetooth. I use Bluetooth headphones and Pixel 5 does not allow audio output to two Bluetooth devices at the same time even though the hardware is capable of it. Is there anyone that has the know how to reverse engineer Samsung's Dual Audio Playback and make a mod to unlock these features on Pixel 5 Android OS 12? Or is there a known fix for this already?
Nothing in developer options allows this to work, I have played with all of those functions already.
I greatly appreciate any help, I know that this is an issue for many people across many devices, a broad fix would be fantastic if possible. I am not a code engineer, so not even sure if this is possible. All info will be helpful. Please let me know if you need any further information from me.
Hey Guys,
i searched the Web for a possibility to get AA running on my X70 Pro+ with Origin OS Ocean....
Unfortunately there are only Posts and Threads about the X60 and other Vivo Phones and so on .
The issue seems to be the same.
Has anyone found a workaround to get AA running on Origin OS....?
I was hoping for Android 12 to get the Phone going, but no Idea what time we will get Android 12 and if Vivo sets permissions for AA then.
Cheers and greetings from Germany
Hi,
Right now, there is unfortunately no way to get Android Auto working. After Android 10 Android Auto only trigger car installation of it is a system application. Since there is not the case with Vivo and you couldn't mount AA as a system, you are out of options to make it work.
There is a slight, but really a slight option that it might work with the new Coolwalk version which will be available later this year.
Otherwise, the head unit direct version is also in preparation.
If you want the working AA now, the only realistic option is to buy an Android CarPlay dongle, or using a spare phone with older Android version as a buffer triggered from your phone hotspot (or with a separate sim card).
piskr said:
Hi,
Right now, there is unfortunately no way to get Android Auto working. After Android 10 Android Auto only trigger car installation of it is a system application. Since there is not the case with Vivo and you couldn't mount AA as a system, you are out of options to make it work.
There is a slight, but really a slight option that it might work with the new Coolwalk version which will be available later this year.
Otherwise, the head unit direct version is also in preparation.
If you want the working AA now, the only realistic option is to buy an Android CarPlay dongle, or using a spare phone with older Android version as a buffer triggered from your phone hotspot (or with a separate sim card).
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Thank you very much for the detailed explanation
Im looking for an EZ solution too
But from my knowledge the only work around right now is root the phone and make AA an system app
which is not EZ for vivo since it does not allow to unlock bootloader
There is simply no chance to run AA with x70 pro+ now. The only viable solution are android dongles running on past Android versions and triggering car AA. Or even better - if you have or can buy cheap an Android 8, 9 or 10 phone with full gps and at least 4g ram (could be with broken screen or scratches), you can use it as an interface.
The only way to have android auto to work on your vehicle is to have the one with Funtouch OS (which I have), other than that, you will waste your time in trying to find a way to make it work..
piskr said:
Hi,
Right now, there is unfortunately no way to get Android Auto working. After Android 10 Android Auto only trigger car installation of it is a system application. Since there is not the case with Vivo and you couldn't mount AA as a system, you are out of options to make it work.
There is a slight, but really a slight option that it might work with the new Coolwalk version which will be available later this year.
Otherwise, the head unit direct version is also in preparation.
If you want the working AA now, the only realistic option is to buy an Android CarPlay dongle, or using a spare phone with older Android version as a buffer triggered from your phone hotspot (or with a separate sim card).
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Will a dongle fix the connection issue?
piskr said:
Hi,
Right now, there is unfortunately no way to get Android Auto working. After Android 10 Android Auto only trigger car installation of it is a system application. Since there is not the case with Vivo and you couldn't mount AA as a system, you are out of options to make it work.
There is a slight, but really a slight option that it might work with the new Coolwalk version which will be available later this year.
Otherwise, the head unit direct version is also in preparation.
If you want the working AA now, the only realistic option is to buy an Android CarPlay dongle, or using a spare phone with older Android version as a buffer triggered from your phone hotspot (or with a separate sim card).
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My head unit is after market and supports wireless. I know that my x fold won't hook up. Are you saying if I get carplay dongle I can hook my vivo wifi to it and it will work?
Sonicsoul25 said:
My head unit is after market and supports wireless. I know that my x fold won't hook up. Are you saying if I get carplay dongle I can hook my vivo wifi to it and it will work?
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The head unit has to support Android Auto. Then you can choose from a variety of dongles. Even though they have more or less the same chip, they are different. Each producer tries to squeeze the most from the device, and they have a different approach.
Basically, you must avoid those, which don't clearly stated that some version of Android is installed. Without Android you gain nothing, it's only wireless connection - for IOS.
Most of them have Android 9 or 10, though in the last time 11 appears as well. That is really interesting, because with Android 11 you must have AA as a system app in order to trigger it on a head unit. It looks like producers now solve that issue.
And surprisingly, the core you get on the head unit, if everything goes ok, is not Android, it's IOS. In that core you have android apps including Google Play.
Since, as I said, every unit has a unique configuration, it's not possible to recommend any. The device that I bought is not in the market anymore, for example.
The very piece that you buy must play well with your car head unit and everything what is behind. And behind is a lot, managing systems for settings, audio and other customization.
You must be aware, when you connect AA dongle, it cuts every other setting related to its management out.
Therefore, the biggest issue might be that you'll lose calling via Bluetooth functionality. Because callings (and old style sms) goes different way than other features. My dongle does support calling but in limited way, without Assistant support and with custom made phone app, where the contact selection is rather difficult. And the next flaw is that it doesn't get along with my car audio system, therefore woofers are not engaged. The dongle doesn't have an equalizer, and I can't remedy it.
There is noticeable lag when starting apps and with commands, but otherwise there is no lag when running. Music, video and Gmaps function without glitches. Yes, you have YouTube, Netflix and any other video app you might be subscribed to. And video runs well with a decent resolution. You can load apps from store or as a sideload. And you can play local files, stored either in the dongle memory or on USB.
That's my experience, others may have different. You don't have necessary to buy a dongle, you can use an old phone with Android from 8 to 10 as a driver. Because, as you may already guess, your actual phone serves only as a hot spot (wireless and if you're lucky bluetooth too - tethering) to provide a signal for AA dongle.
If you want to buy a dedicated device, select one which has reviews from the users with as much as possible similar circumstances and priorities as you have.
piskr said:
The head unit has to support Android Auto. Then you can choose from a variety of dongles. Even though they have more or less the same chip, they are different. Each producer tries to squeeze the most from the device, and they have a different approach.
Basically, you must avoid those, which don't clearly stated that some version of Android is installed. Without Android you gain nothing, it's only wireless connection - for IOS.
Most of them have Android 9 or 10, though in the last time 11 appears as well. That is really interesting, because with Android 11 you must have AA as a system app in order to trigger it on a head unit. It looks like producers now solve that issue.
And surprisingly, the core you get on the head unit, if everything goes ok, is not Android, it's IOS. In that core you have android apps including Google Play.
Since, as I said, every unit has a unique configuration, it's not possible to recommend any. The device that I bought is not in the market anymore, for example.
The very piece that you buy must play well with your car head unit and everything what is behind. And behind is a lot, managing systems for settings, audio and other customization.
You must be aware, when you connect AA dongle, it cuts every other setting related to its management out.
Therefore, the biggest issue might be that you'll lose calling via Bluetooth functionality. Because callings (and old style sms) goes different way than other features. My dongle does support calling but in limited way, without Assistant support and with custom made phone app, where the contact selection is rather difficult. And the next flaw is that it doesn't get along with my car audio system, therefore woofers are not engaged. The dongle doesn't have an equalizer, and I can't remedy it.
There is noticeable lag when starting apps and with commands, but otherwise there is no lag when running. Music, video and Gmaps function without glitches. Yes, you have YouTube, Netflix and any other video app you might be subscribed to. And video runs well with a decent resolution. You can load apps from store or as a sideload. And you can play local files, stored either in the dongle memory or on USB.
That's my experience, others may have different. You don't have necessary to buy a dongle, you can use an old phone with Android from 8 to 10 as a driver. Because, as you may already guess, your actual phone serves only as a hot spot (wireless and if you're lucky bluetooth too - tethering) to provide a signal for AA dongle.
If you want to buy a dedicated device, select one which has reviews from the users with as much as possible similar circumstances and priorities as you have.
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Thank you for the wealth of information. I Think I will just use my spare phone to run it. Until another solution arises.