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Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
vodovodo said:
Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
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You are in wrong place mate. This is S10 forum and you are posting about Huawei. Do you think anyone would care?
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You are in wrong place mate. This is S10 forum and you are posting about Huawei. Do you think anyone would care?
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No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
vodovodo said:
No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
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I never been with Huawei before. But I do know Megapixel is a gimmick. If the camera software is not good, all these megapixels are nothing but more storage space.
You could have a 58mgp camera sensor and if it's not implemented correctly (software controlled) then it's just a higher number. For example 12gb ram well there is absolutely no need for it, Android and apps will never need that, so it's a high number without any practicality.
It's marketing to some degree also, higher numbers are better right, 12gb ram, 58mgp camera ect.
So if you wish to be fooled look to the Pixel with a 12mgp single lens that shows clearly my point.
vodovodo said:
No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
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EMUI will trigger a slow descent into madness. It's quite a frustrating experience. The aggressive app management is great for the battery life but a terrible user experience. AOD is frustratingly useless and don't get me started on notifications. A nightmare... The wireless desktop thingy is a cool party trick and the camera can be great. It's not as consistent as the pixel's. I would streer clear if I were you.
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You could have a 58mgp camera sensor and if it's not implemented correctly (software controlled) then it's just a higher number. For example 12gb ram well there is absolutely no need for it, Android and apps will never need that, so it's a high number without any practicality.
It's marketing to some degree also, higher numbers are better right, 12gb ram, 58mgp camera ect.
So if you wish to be fooled look to the Pixel with a 12mgp single lens that shows clearly my point.
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I have had a couple of Huawei phones and wouldn't touch one again ever. While EMUI was one factor, the main reason is lack of support in the US. They are a pretty popular phone overseas though.
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Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
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Watch Mr Whostheboss video on the battery comparison, between s10+ and p20pro.
The s10+ lasts longer than the p20 pro by quite some time.
How about we all embrace the fact that smaller companies have been rising to compete with current flagships. Competition is a good thing, without it nobody would create anything new. Take a look at the iPhone vs Android. Granted, the iPhone does compete with Android but nowhere near the same level Android competes with other Android phones.
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Watch Mr Whostheboss video on the battery comparison, between s10+ and p20pro.
The s10+ lasts longer than the p20 pro by quite some time.
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Thanks I did, in the same video note 9 outperformed the iPhone max, witch is not the case with my usage and it makes sense since normal day to day use phone ain't always in our hands and standby time is much better on an iphone. These looping battery tests doesn't always make sense
By the way the lense size itself is huge on the mate 20 compared to s10 not only megapixel count
Got the mate 20 pro Thanks, got it for almost 550$ ... Couldn't resist the deal.
software wise it sucks big time. UI and navigation feels like an unfinished iOS clone ! Samsung one UI is much much better
Hardware is freaking awesome so far. Over 3 hours SOT with 68% left, app management is very flexible not that bad and it's blazing fast and smooth, camera is great and much better results than note and iPhone
Am I the only one disappointed with low light & indoors capabilities of this camera?
So disappointed with the quality of indoor and low light pictures produced by my S10+. I have always been a Samsung guy, never missed on an S and Note model, had the P20 Pro last year then briefly the Mate 20 Pro but replaced it with the Note 9 due to the trash display on it. I held on to my Note 9 promising myself that Samsung will definitely deliver this time around and give us a good low light shooter with the S10 and also after the news about the bright night shot leaked out. But nope, I was wrong, Samsung still can't figure out how to give us a camera that can compete with the Pixel and the Huawei's in low light conditions, indoor photography, and moving objects.*
I love this phone, hands down the best phone I've ever had, but if Samsung doesn't release an update to address this and add a night sight or night mode like feature, then I am ditching it for the upcoming P30 Pro(if Huawei sorts out the display issues). I have two kids, and you can imagine how challenging it is for me taking pictures of them while playing and indoors, it's a big deal for me.*
Again, crossing my fingers Samsung addresses these issues, or developers finally find a way to give us exynos owners a reliable Gcam port that has a functioning night sight mode in it.
Camera sucks when it comes to photographing people. Period.
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Sadly, this only works on the snapdragon version, I doubt we'll ever get a fully working port for exynos S10 phones.
same . I am using Mate 20 X then buy S10+ . Thinking about selling S10+ and keep the M20X cause of camera quality. After 1 year, Samsung only add 1 more wide angle camera, and still bad quality. I think they bring that wide angle cam from A series
am sure there''s 100s that are also but love other features to complain, but am with you just like everyone mentions love the build quality but damn work on the camera software instead of adding more lenses..
Do people still like the phone, even though you cannot unlock the BL anymore and thus no more root, custom roms and tweaks?
Is it worth for 340€? I bought one on sale online, and now I am pondering whether I should send it back or not.
Many people opt for Xiaomi Mi 9 / Mi 9T Pro in these price regions, but to be honest, I also tried that one. But regarding photo shooting and video recording and sound it is not on the P20 Pro level.
Good battery, excellent photos and Emui, you'll get used to it...
Wait until March to get Android 10.
For that price it's a very good all-round phone.
People go for xiaomi due to custom roms. P20 pro is a great device, especially at that price!
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People go for xiaomi due to custom roms. P20 pro is a great device, especially at that price!
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Well, you gotta unlock your BL there, in which case you lose your guarantee. But well, it is an huge argument favoring the Xiaomi. I don't think it is so important for my mother to frickle around the software.
Mi 9 has very bad low light performance compared to the P20 Pro. I have the P20 Pro for 2 years now and I have no intention of switching. The fingerprint sensor under the screen is such a good idea to navigate through the OS that I honestly felt it's abscence during a brief period of using the S9 plus and Mate 20 Pro. For video it can be very good but only if you use an app with manual video settings like Open Camera.
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Do people still like the phone, even though you cannot unlock the BL anymore and thus no more root, custom roms and tweaks?
Is it worth for 340€? I bought one on sale online, and now I am pondering whether I should send it back or not.
Many people opt for Xiaomi Mi 9 / Mi 9T Pro in these price regions, but to be honest, I also tried that one. But regarding photo shooting and video recording and sound it is not on the P20 Pro level.
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Choose S9+, p20 pro is not as good as what we can read on internet or YouTube.
Personally I switched from an S8+ to Redmi K20, I was happy ( Redmi camera is not as good ass S8+) and today I changed my k20 with a P20 Pro, the phone is good but not at the same level than S9+ of my friend I think ( camera also is better on S9+)
Honestly, I regret it.
what the best rom for this phone ? without emui
achour7 said:
Choose S9+, p20 pro is not as good as what we can read on internet or YouTube.
Personally I switched from an S8+ to Redmi K20, I was happy ( Redmi camera is not as good ass S8+) and today I changed my k20 with a P20 Pro, the phone is good but not at the same level than S9+ of my friend I think ( camera also is better on S9+)
Honestly, I regret it.
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Camera is better on s9+? lmao
The only advantage that s9 plus has is the edge screen, wireless charging, headphone jack, the amoled screen is a better quality but not such a big difference and pretty much it.
Battery,camera and performance wise, p20 pro mops the floor with the s9 plus (unless it uses the snapdragon chipset then they are toe-to-toe)
The Restless Soul said:
Camera is better on s9+? lmao
The only advantage that s9 plus has is the edge screen, wireless charging, headphone jack, the amoled screen is a better quality but not such a big difference and pretty much it.
Battery,camera and performance wise, p20 pro mops the floor with the s9 plus (unless it uses the snapdragon chipset then they are toe-to-toe)
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I'm test the p20 pro and writing you from IT. I can compare it to my old S8+.
Battery losts 10% in 40min, it's really bad compared to 1h30 on S8+ ( A little less on the S9+) accu battery detects a healthy battery.
P20 pro camera is a little bit sharper but my old S8+ is way better with colors, high dynamics range (Especially this point), autofocus. Vidéo, microphone, screen are much better on S9.
OneUi is light years ahead Emui 9.1 and I'm impatient for Emui 10 ?
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I'm test the p20 pro and writing you from IT. I can compare it to my old S8+.
Battery losts 10% in 40min, it's really bad compared to 1h30 on S8+ ( A little less on the S9+) accu battery detects a healthy battery.
P20 pro camera is a little bit sharper but my old S8+ is way better with colors, high dynamics range (Especially this point), autofocus. Vidéo, microphone, screen are much better on S9.
OneUi is light years ahead Emui 9.1 and I'm impatient for Emui 10
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Who isn't. Still, i like the p20 pro, not a huge fan of the edge screen that the s9 plus has. Anyway, if the android solution doesn't solve up with the trade war thing, i am porting to another device. Big shame that Huawei gets the bat when they make pretty good phones and keep the competition high
There is no way to get the S9 Plus for 340€ new....
S9+ with Exynos processor does not last a whole day. It's honestly really bad at battery life and also full of bloatware. It does, however, have a great video mode with very smooth zoom compared to the jagged zoom on the P20. Photos seem better on the P20 Pro though.
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S9+ with Exynos processor does not last a whole day. It's honestly really bad at battery life and also full of bloatware. It does, however, have a great video mode with very smooth zoom compared to the jagged zoom on the P20. Photos seem better on the P20 Pro though.
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Don't have s9+ but s8+ exynos has good battery life.
And it was just a software issue yesterday on my p20 pro, now I'm at
80% with 2h45 on screen, it's even better then my Xiaomi MI 9t ?
S9 recived software updates for camera and I compared it with my p20p.
Between flagship the camera quality is very close, the size of the camera's sensor in the smartphones not have much margin to have a huge difference ?
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Don't have s9+ but s8+ exynos has good battery life.
And it was just a software issue yesterday on my p20 pro, now I'm at
80% with 2h45 on screen, it's even better then my Xiaomi MI 9t
S9 recived software updates for camera and I compared it with my p20p.
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So,I'm due an upgrade this year and usually stick with Oneplus and currently have a 6T,
My usual upgrade would take me to a Oneplus 8 but I'm reading not so many great things about these phones such as hole punch cameras and the price is gonna be crazy for the Standard 8 and 8 pro
But here we have a phone that will probably be similar in specs and possibly better in places with the X2 pro.
I'm not crazy anymore about OxygenOS,sure it's great but it's boring after all these years. A little more features or some might say bloat can be useful and I hear ColorOS is pretty good in this regard.
Oneplus has slowed with updates for older devices so I think I could live with less updates.
Would you guys upgrade to a X2 pro considering you can get the 12/256 model for €449 now on Amazon or should I wait to see what Xaomi do though the k30 doesn't look that appealing if it turns out to be the mi 10.
Did anyone upgrade from a 6 or 6T to this phone ?
manus31 said:
So,I'm due an upgrade this year and usually stick with Oneplus and currently have a 6T,
My usual upgrade would take me to a Oneplus 8 but I'm reading not so many great things about these phones such as hole punch cameras and the price is gonna be crazy for the Standard 8 and 8 pro
But here we have a phone that will probably be similar in specs and possibly better in places with the X2 pro.
I'm not crazy anymore about OxygenOS,sure it's great but it's boring after all these years. A little more features or some might say bloat can be useful and I hear ColorOS is pretty good in this regard.
Oneplus has slowed with updates for older devices so I think I could live with less updates.
Would you guys upgrade to a X2 pro considering you can get the 12/256 model for €449 now on Amazon or should I wait to see what Xaomi do though the k30 doesn't look that appealing if it turns out to be the mi 10.
Did anyone upgrade from a 6 or 6T to this phone ?
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If you are not in a hurry (you have problems with your cuerrent phone), you should wait until the next generation of qualcomme soc (next half year).
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If you are not in a hurry (you have problems with your cuerrent phone), you should wait until the next generation of qualcomme soc (next half year).
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Yes, Ideally this would be true but I think the next gen of high end SD chips are gonna be more expensive and power hungry due to uneeded 5g. a lot of mid range well priced phones from Xaoimi will be having mid range chips like 765.
I actually think there is a good case to skip the next gen of chips because they are mainly for 5g which most users in the world dont need
I personally encourage you to get this phone. ColorOS has some interesting features and it's rock solid. The phone is very responsive and I have a good SOT. Talking about battery, the VOOC charging is unbelievably fast! I have so much to say about the Realme X2 Pro, but the conclusion is that I don't regret my decision.
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I personally encourage you to get this phone. ColorOS has some interesting features and it's rock solid. The phone is very responsive and I have a good SOT. Talking about battery, the VOOC charging is unbelievably fast! I have so much to say about the Realme X2 Pro, but the conclusion is that I don't regret my decision.
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What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
manus31 said:
What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
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I did upgrade from Huawei p20 pro
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What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
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I just was with Poco F1. And it was a very good experience with it and said that I will no longer get other than Xiaomi ?
Probably the best value for the money at this time :good:
Pros
90hz Display which is very good
UFS 3.0
12gb Ram (top variant)
256gb Storage
50w SuperVooc
Great design & build.
Decent Cameras.
Cons
ColorOS still needs work and that comes in 0S7, with realme perhaps doing their own thing?
Cameras are just average (made better with Gcam) although as yet still not a stable build for the X2 Pro.
Overall for what you are paying them yea it's a very very good purchase :good:
Duncan1982 said:
Probably the best value for the money at this time :good:
Pros
90hz Display which is very good
UFS 3.0
12gb Ram (top variant)
256gb Storage
50w SuperVooc
Great design & build.
Decent Cameras.
Cons
ColorOS still needs work and that comes in 0S7, with realme perhaps doing their own thing?
Cameras are just average (made better with Gcam) although as yet still not a stable build for the X2 Pro.
Overall for what you are paying them yea it's a very very good purchase :good:
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Pros: decent cameras
Cons: cameras are average
Some expert fence sitting there,lol ?
manus31 said:
Pros: decent cameras
Cons: cameras are average
Some expert fence sitting there,lol ?
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They are both in both categories as they are made better with Gcam but without I'd put in the cons as they really aren't that great.
Duncan1982 said:
They are both in both categories as they are made better with Gcam but without I'd put in the cons as they really aren't that great.
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Lol,makes sense,though from what I've seen on YouTube and other reviews the cameras are pretty competitive with other flagships,not the greatest but decent in most departments,
I personally don't like using gcam because its usually unstable and annoying.
Still not convinced by the phone though with ColorOS though it should be interesting to see what colorOs7 is like.
manus31 said:
Lol,makes sense,though from what I've seen on YouTube and other reviews the cameras are pretty competitive with other flagships,not the greatest but decent in most departments,
I personally don't like using gcam because its usually unstable and annoying.
Still not convinced by the phone though with ColorOS though it should be interesting to see what colorOs7 is like.
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ColorOS runs just fine in terms of performance, it's just a bit disorganized, Cameras they are perfectly fine in good light, but I'd say they do struggle and the Samsung made GW1 64mgp sensor isn't great, but the price you can let the cam be the way it is, it's not shockingly poor, it's just average and the price point for everything else made it a great purchase for me.
Here is a pic in low light, (Curtains closed, no natural light) Stock Camera (using nighscape)
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What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
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Duncan1982 said:
They are both in both categories as they are made better with Gcam but without I'd put in the cons as they really aren't that great.
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The camera is great people just don't know how to shoot proper pictures
Made with 64mp mode
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Made with 64mp mode
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I did hear that the 64mp mode is very good even better than the 108mp mode on the Mi note 10. I suppose it's just low light photos I would be worried about and lack of OIS
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I did hear that the 64mp mode is very good even better than the 108mp mode on the Mi note 10. I suppose it's just low light photos I would be worried about and lack of OIS
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OIS is not needed in any kind of way thanks to the Snapdragon 855+ and 12 GB Ram
i can tell you the difference , when i was using the P20 Pro i had always lags making any kind of video.
using the X2 Pro with 30 or 60 FPS its like Butter , also the way the camera reacts like speed focus etc you dont even need OIS so trust me you would have a lot of fun
The Only bad thing about the Camera is the Night Shot Mode ... you cant compare it with Huawei
but without that its simply perfect in my eyes and i did a lot of pictures using the stock camera app
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OIS is not needed in any kind of way thanks to the Snapdragon 855+ and 12 GB Ram
i can tell you the difference , when i was using the P20 Pro i had always lags making any kind of video.
using the X2 Pro with 30 or 60 FPS its like Butter , also the way the camera reacts like speed focus etc you dont even need OIS so trust me you would have a lot of fun
The Only bad thing about the Camera is the Night Shot Mode ... you cant compare it with Huawei
but without that its simply perfect in my eyes and i did a lot of pictures using the stock camera app
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Huawei are very good for low light so I would never expect the X2 pro to compare.What about updates ?
I believe the phone will receive support for Android 10 and 11. Updates every two months with security patch and a big update soon to colorOS 7,
Have you received timely updates as yet ?
Tbh it's a huge upgrade over the 6t... It's better in everyway except oxygen and as I've said before to others the euro version from Amazon Spain is one of the most bloat free and fluid operating systems around. Regarding the camera I've got to agree with @natedogg20050 it's a excellent camera and if you know how to use it correctly I've mostly got better shots then my son's mate 20 pro and wife's view 20.... Then when you consider the price to spec it's truly unbeatable in my opinion. I've had the OnePlus 6t and loved it but to me the X2 pro is far better.
Edit: Regarding updates I've received 1 update each month since getting the phone.
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Tbh it's a huge upgrade over the 6t... It's better in everyway except oxygen and as I've said before to others the euro version from Amazon Spain is one of the most bloat free and fluid operating systems around. Regarding the camera I've got to agree with @natedogg20050 it's a excellent camera and if you know how to use it correctly I've mostly got better shots then my son's mate 20 pro and wife's view 20.... Then when you consider the price to spec it's truly unbeatable in my opinion. I've had the OnePlus 6t and loved it but to me the X2 pro is far better.
Edit: Regarding updates I've received 1 update each month since getting the phone.
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Thanks for the input,I looked at many reviews and comparisons over the last while and have concluded that the X2 pro is the best and most interesting deal out there.I am now bored with my 6T and wanted a change so this morning on Christmas I have just ordered my X2 pro 12/256 model in blue from Amazon Spain to receive it next week.
In regards to camera,most if not all the reviews I have looked at are positive. Ive seen that they have improved camera quality in recent updates also , particularly with low light shots.
I think people who do criticise are only nitpicking generally that a particular color may not be exactly the same as it is real life or stupid little things like that. The camera from what I've seen is excellent for the price including everything else.
Excited to use a phone with 12gb ram also,as I've only ever had 6 at most,90hz should be fun too and the little features of ColorOs.
Merry Christmas everyone.
I still cannot decide between OnePlus 7T and Realme X2 Pro. Coming from a really clean Moto G4+ experience and being kind of a power user (not gaming wise but regarding usage time & used features), I'm a little afraid that Color OS maybe couldn't deliver my wished quality. And video OIS and night capabilities of the 7T camera seems to be much better considering many YouTube comparisons.
On the other hand Realme offers super fast charging, interesting software features (three finger screenshot crop and all this nice little things) for a much lower price tag.
Hello
I am using an S10+ since May and I am not having problems with it.
Though I wonder if the mi 9t pro camera + gcam 7 is not way better than the exynos S10+?
Or the difference is minimal?
Regarding the camera, I honestly think that S10's is superior, but when it comes to GCam, both should be in the same level. Especially with the same settings.
But the Exynos CPU is definitely "weaker" than Snapdragon, principally when it comes to gaming, as the games tends to throttle much less in SD, and are also more optimized for it.
Yeah in terms of performance MI9T PRO/K20 PRO is ahead.
But i guess when comparing in other areas like camera nd ONE UI. Samung kiLLs
i wanted to buy Samung S10 plus but in my country only Exynos version is available. Earlier i have used NOTE 4 Exynos. And there arent ROMS for Exynos chipset. and Then i bought K20 pro.
with GCAM it can take some really good shots.
I went from HTC U12 to an exynos S10e and had to return it, although it was a beautiful screen and design it was dropping phonecalls when I was driving. I found the S10e to have a slightly over processed and saturated look on the camera.
I've had the Mi9T Pro 8/256 since it was launched and its a good HTC substitute, camera wise it is good but I do miss OIS. But with a bit of practice GCam does take a good shot, I'm no pro though.