Google backup data section is missing some items - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Hi guys, I searched around for this but came up empty.
I was expecting my google backup menu to look like this:
https://ibb.co/hf94fX7
But my Note8 shows this:
https://ibb.co/7RSnSF9
Why am I missing some of these data? I am especially worried about App Data.

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[Q] restore help please..

Am new to Android two weeks ago. I had to have my new SGS replaced and thought that all the phone settings and apps were being synced with my google account (I've always had Background Data and Auto-sync checked on as well as my google accounts set to sync on for Gmail, Contacts and Calendar). Having powered on the new replacement and entered my google account settings I was expecting it to recognise that the new device was not in sync with google and offer to push everything back down to the phone.
All that has happened is my Contacts, Gmail and Calendar are in sync but the phone settings & previously installed apps through the market place are not.
If I go into the Android Market Place on the phone and look at one of the previous apps I had installed such as BBC iPlayer it shows my rating and comment so it knows its me but only offers the option to reinstall the app again from the market, i.e. finding each app manually and reinstalling. Is it not supposed to restore the apps you have previously installed? I reinstalled this app from the market but it hasn't restored the user data associated with the app.
Having dug a little further whilst writing this, I notice that if I log into the Android Market through a web browser on the PC I can see in the "Orders" screen the apps that I previously downloaded. However, on the next tab "Settings" shows My Devices with the old and new phone listed. There doesn't seem to be a way to remove the old phone from my account or tell it that the new phone actually replaces the old so just give me the old data to the new device.
Being new to Android I did think that this was meant to work slicker than this, I hope someone can help out a newbie please?
If you go into the Market and look at My Apps, you should be able to redownload them all (I think an option exists to download them all with a single click "update all" or something like that). Most people backup their applications etc using Tatanium Backup so that they easily restore user apps after ROM upgrades etc. You can also backup SMS messages using an app from the Market.
When you first enter a new Google account into your phone, there is a check box to restore your apps from the Market. This actually is usually best NOT to use since it can cause a sudden massive download.
It is in all ways safer and smarter to just go into MyApps and reinstall the apps one by one. It may take a little longer, but it is a better method.
Titanium Backup is a good option for restoring apps after you flash a new rom, but it won't do you any good if you change phones.
Unfortunately that isn't the case.
If I go into the Android Market Place on the phone and "My Apps" I don't see the apps that were installed on the old phone and thus no option from My Apps to reinstall them.
The only apps that are present in My Apps are those that were I guess added by Three's flavour of this 2.2 OS, which are the Three app plus Google Maps and YouTube.
Their seems to be something wrong with market place if it is meant to work how your suggesting. If I log into market place through my PC that google account sees both the old and new phone but doesn't on the phone offer the old apps to the new phone.
I'm pretty sure that when I entered my google account details earlier that there was no option box to restore as I would have taken that option as I have an unlimited data plan.
I wonder if I should do a factory reset and re enter the account details again but I fear that it will just see this new phone in the market place and not the old one as they obviously have some sort of device id.
Unfortunately it looks like Titanium is just for rooted devices and am not ready to go down that route (no pun intended) just yet.
If the apps and app data are suppose to sync with google then it seems like an unnecessary duplication of work to redo something outside of what should be part of Android natively.
If I have to install a backup app then I would want to find one that backs up all the phone settings, apps and app data to the SD card which I can then move over to the PC where there is obviously more storage. It would be nice to find such an app that provides a selective restore so that it would also be compatible with a new different model phone so that only the apps and app data could be restored.

[Q] Unable to find some icons/groups

First, thanks for any help. Although I am a techie, I am not a phone techie, just a reasonably advanced user. I love reading here, but get lost on occasion with terms I don't know.
That said...
Perhaps someone can help me. Got my new One yesterday, and proceeded to restore apps from my Evo 4G LTE using MyBackup Pro, which I also used to upgrade my 3 previous devices, and to restore when I updated Android on the Evo from 4.2 to 4.3.
After the upgrade, most of the grouped folders disappeared (except for the AT&T one.) I cannot find voice mail, or anything like that.
How can I restore those? I was careful not to restore settings, Android Home, etc. Just apps, text messages, and call logs.
By the way, I was careful in that no settings were restored, and nothing with Android home. Just text messages, call log, and APKs. At least, that's what I thought. LOL I'd like to retrieve the folders like the Google apps, and the multimedia (if I recall.) Maybe this weekend I would be better off just doing a hard reset and restoring carefully. UGH.

How to restore settings, apps, etc? Last phone isn't an option.

I just bought a new Galaxy S8+. When i fittest turned on the phone and tried to restore my apps and settings that were backed-up on the cloud through Google, my previous phone a Nexus 6P, was not an option for me to restore from. I skipped that step and continued to set up the phone thinking I could restore those settings at a later time. Since then I have not found any way to restore those apps and settings. I have downloaded the Samsung sync app which allows for 2 phones to connect with either a cord or wirelessly to restore/copy apps and settings but I could not get that to work. I really don't want to have to download each individual app manually and set each one up. Is there any other way to easily restore/sync my backups to the new S8 that I haven't already tried? Why wouldn't my old phone be an option to sync from the first time I turned on the phone? Is my only option to wipe/reset the phone, start from scratch, and hope that my 6P is in the option menu this time? Is there something I can do with my 6P to make it appear in the restore list this time on my S8?
Thank you in advance for any help.
The apps My Backup and My Backup Pro are good for that purpose. I'm not sure if it can save your app data if you're not rooted though as I've always been rooted. But its still useful to save some settings and apps. I've used it for around 7-8 years to restore the bulk of my information. Some apps like Waze do not like to be restored and you have to clear the app data in settings before use.
Do not restore contacts or calendar since google already has that info.

Samsung Account didnt back most things

Updated yesterday to Pie from Lollipop. Did a Samsung and Google Backup, since i was not rooted to use titanium for apps and settings.
after restoring though it seems lots of things are missing. I got all apps restored, but most settings and app data are gone. Good thing i got a cloud sync, from ones that support it, like viber/whatsapp and my expense tracker app. But lots of things have gone missing. I copied the entire filesystem (the part that is available without, rooting at least). Maybe i can get something back?
Most importantly i'm missing my samsung notes data, calendar entries that were stored on phone (google calendar entries got synced back succesfully), and camscanner data. I forgot to sync that last one to the cloud. Also been missing save game progress from the games i got installed
Also novalauncher layout got wiped. I even made sure to create a backup, but after the restore it wasnt on the options. If the backup file is not stored on the rooted part of the filesystem, maybe i can get it back from the full disk copy ive made
Will post once i remember something else of importance.

New to Samsung - need help to backup to PC and Samsung Cloud

Hello,
I recently bought a S20 FE which is my first Samsung phone ever. I came from Huawei P20 Pro (and a Sony and Iphone before that) and i have a few questions, that i hope you guys can help me with:
How do i backup my Samsung phone to a PC?
Huawei has the "HiSuite" PC-software that connects to your phone and allow easy backup/restore functions for calls, text messages,
contacts, pictures etc.. Is there a similar software for Samsung?
Backup to Samsung Cloud: I don't have the option to activate automatic backups, i can only do it manually (nothing in the three-dot menu). Am I missing something?
Thank you in advance,
Dan
Damun said:
Hello,
I recently bought a S20 FE which is my first Samsung phone ever. I came from Huawei P20 Pro (and a Sony and Iphone before that) and i have a few questions, that i hope you guys can help me with:
How do i backup my Samsung phone to a PC?
Huawei has the "HiSuite" PC-software that connects to your phone and allow easy backup/restore functions for calls, text messages,
contacts, pictures etc.. Is there a similar software for Samsung?
Backup to Samsung Cloud: I don't have the option to activate automatic backups, i can only do it manually (nothing in the three-dot menu). Am I missing something?
Thank you in advance,
Dan
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The tool provided for Samsung for backup and restore purposes is SmartSwitch, regarding the automatic backup I always had activated this option by default and had to do it the other way around to deactivate it. If you can provide some screenie or maybe you can enable it open your account via PC.
Thanks for your answers @SubwayChamp
I'll get SmartSwitch.
I've accessed Samsung Cloud from my PC and from my phone, but couldn't find any options to activate automatic backup there.
When i go to settings > Accounts and backup > Under"Samsung Cloud" : Backup data
Here i can choose what to backup and at the bottom there is a button to backup (manually). There is no option to enable automatic backups. The three dots menu only has "More info" but no options.
Edit:
I was looking in the wrong place. Followed the guide here, and i didn't look in the right place.
Had to look in Samsung Cloud settings, and there i found the "Auto back up" option. My bad.
Damun said:
Thanks for your answers @SubwayChamp
I'll get SmartSwitch.
I've accessed Samsung Cloud from my PC and from my phone, but couldn't find any options to activate automatic backup there.
When i go to settings > Accounts and backup > Under"Samsung Cloud" : Backup data
Here i can choose what to backup and at the bottom there is a button to backup (manually). There is no option to enable automatic backups. The three dots menu only has "More info" but no options.
Edit:
I was looking in the wrong place. Followed the guide here, and i didn't look in the right place.
Had to look in Samsung Cloud settings, and there i found the "Auto back up" option. My bad.
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Good, that´s what I thought.
Do Not use Smart Switch! It can fail you miserably. Cloud crap is unsuitable for large data bases and hogs bandwidth and battery.
Do a direct folder to folder cut & paste.
Verify it was a good copy.
Always backup the PC backup files to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other.
Do not clone or compress data to hdds as it can remove needed null marks!
Thanks for the warning @blackhawk.
I am a bit surprised that i would resort to use copy/paste on a fairly new phone from one of the biggest cell-phone manufacturers in the world.
Damun said:
Thanks for the warning @blackhawk.
I am a bit surprised that i would resort to use copy/paste on a fairly new phone from one of the biggest cell-phone manufacturers in the world.
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You're welcome.
It's reliable and verifiable (always verify and test the copy). Recopied an unclean transfer don't attempt to "repair" it
Over the years I learned why to use only cut/paste the hard way. The only thing I will clone copy is an OS/loaded apks.
Data damage/lose is not acceptable.
I have about 1.5 tb of data... I don't screw around with it trying shortcuts.

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