Is the sanders ROM good enough for daily use? - Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers

I'd like to upgrade my Motorola G4S Plus from Oreo.
apparently the official lineage build doesn't cover this model so I'm wondering if people here think that the sound is wrong is stable enough for daily use?
From reading through the topic list there seems to be a lot of issues...
TIA

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[REQUEST~] MIUI (Any version) for Titan

Hi people.
As many of yours seen some months ago, MIUI got ported to our device. Sadly, RIL and other minor bugs made the ROM unusable for XT1068 and XT1069 users (XT1064 managed to get RIL working); It's a reliable fact that we have almost every custom rom successful-y ported to Titan. But what if MIUI gets another chance? I mean, if some "front devs" unite and start working on it, I betcha it would be a sucess. If the issue is money, I think some donations might worth it.
Now I ask you all: What do you think about that idea?
(also, I STILL maintain The HotROM Box. I'm bloated on University right now, but I'll update it do MM ASAP.)
I think a great idea, but it is one thing missing, the devs care about this port to the titan kk
The thread is closed now but the OP claimed he ported MIUI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/prepared-android-7-0-rom-moto-g2014-t3460915

Still worthing buy the MI 5 in 2017?

Hello everyone!
So MI 6 is about to come in march 2017. I'm currently user of Nexus 5x and looking for a upgrade since the budget is limited, so I'm looking for a economic option.
I found an exchange with unboxed MI 5 with my nexus 5x. Should i buy MI 5 in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
never had a phone with such excellent hardware and such poor software.
Every rom i tested had bugs bugs bugs. My cheapest android phone had better and mor stable software than all of the roms for MI5
Next phone will be definetly a hono 8 or somesthing like this
I have the model with 64gb and 3gb of ram, best phone for now. Personally I tell you to buy it, it's a good phone
I have 3gb 64gb version and I love it. I would say go for it:good:
Poor software? How? I didn't like MIUI but there are plenty of custom roms that work very well. For example LineageOS has very few bugs nowadays
If I compare this to my wife's Huawei... I would never change.
So, yes. The phone is still worth buying and custom Roms are developing all the time.
I have suggested this phone to my friends and they are also happy with it.
I bought the 64GB version about a month ago, coming from an Oppo Find 7 and I don't regret it. The hardware and the look and feel are excellent, the software is indeed not perfect, but the bugs are not that bad if you ask me.
I've only used MIUI since I got it, never had a Xiaomi phone before but I tried it on other phones and always kinda liked it. Currently I am on xiaomi.eu 8.1.6.0 and the only bugs worth mentioning that I found are:
- a touch problem, horizontal swipes are often detected as vertical, you have to be very accurate in your gestures, particularly when trying to remove notifications by swiping them.
- the microphone on wired headsets gets muted if you are on a call and you let the screen go to sleep while you talk . The issue doesn't happen when you lock the screen by pressing the button during the call.
Both issues are software-related because they do not occur on custom roms from what I've read.
One more thing is that it feels like the camera is let down by the software a bit. I isn't bad or anything like that, but it could've been better.
Echaeos said:
I have the model with 64gb and 3gb of ram, best phone for now. Personally I tell you to buy it, it's a good phone
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sure why not?
Price performance ratio simply excellent phone
MIUI Global stable ROM is very stable (never had a problem with global ROM)
Best phone I ever owned
Custom Roms lots of them
U can't go wrong with mi5
notoriouspk said:
Price performance ratio simply excellent phone
MIUI Global stable ROM is very stable (never had a problem with global ROM)
Best phone I ever owned
Custom Roms lots of them
U can't go wrong with mi5
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Custom Roms lots of them ??
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
as far as i can see, there are only 3 Roms: native chinese, eu version, CM14, All other Roms are based on CM14. And as far as CM14 has no dual Ringtones, and even Notification Light on missed calls is not working there is no alternative to Miui
Is notification light for missed calls a deal breaker? Oh my... You have big problems.
And there is AOSP?
Of course i'll choose LOS rather than miui. Quickreply is important. Btw imo this phone is still worth to buy in 2017. There maybe still some bugs in current custom roms. But, it's improving for sure from time to time

Is the OnePlus 3t sensible after the issuance of its death certificate?

Dear OnePlus 3t owners,
Is it sensible to buy a new OP3T after OP decided to kill updates post-O?
On this device, easy root, no updates but plenty of community support.
On others (S8, XZ Premium, other mainstream flagships), loss of features with root, somewhat more updates with less community support.
Please help me take my decision, and any and all help is greatly appreciated!
It depends if you want a phone to play around and mod or you want a phone to have longer updates although longer updates are not a guarantee in any brand even Google promises updates for 2 years only. 3t is still a pretty good device and I think we'll have good dev support for atleast a couple of years
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No update ? Hmm, don't know where you see this, OpenBeta 13 has just been release today.
Personally, I bought the OnePlus 3T like one week ago for 350e on Ebay, very happy with with.
Before it, I bought a OnePlus 5 day one, and, well, if I'm here today, it's because I was very disappointed (*cough* Jelly Effect *cough* ), and I bought the OnePlus 3T because I need a new device right now: I prepare a trip in South Korea, and need a new device to replace the time bomb OnePlus 2 (sorry about my life topic).
I share the idea about the fact that the OnePlus 3T was the true Flagship Killer: low price for very good specs.
You can see that the device is still in top 3 devices on XDA (behind Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+ and LG G6), and for me, it's an indicator that the OnePlus 3T still has a bright future.
So yeah, OnePlus won't update the OnePlus 3T after Android O (but still security update tho), but he, we are on XDA, so plenty of custom ROMs available!
After all, I can't either ""force"" you to buy or not the OnePlus 3T. It depends on multiple points
-How many you want to put in your phone ?
-What is a good smartphone for you ?
-Do you care about officials updates of custom ROMs is ok for you ?
1. No updates: I actually meant "no major version updates".
2. So you have bought the 5 and saw that the 3T was better in comparison?
3. Are custom ROMs stable as stock on this device? (My 1st OP device, hope ROMs are as stable as stock to the contrary of Samsung)
4. Is the camera on custom ROMs any good (as in decent) without camera blobs from OnePlus?
Thanks for your advice! I'm actually biased towards buying the device but I have had my reservations
Well, I'm a tinkerer but I really prefer more updates as I do prefer longevity (3-4 years of college, not enough $$$ to spend on phones). Thank you a lot!
I don't think it'll matter. Android O will be a nice send off and I think said that they'll provide security updates also. The community will support this phone for many android revisions and groups/people like PA or Sultan got the same camera quality on their AOSP roms
Also, you said that you bought the 3T to replace your "time-bomb" OP2. How is the 2 a time bomb exactly? And could the 3T become one too?
I'm content with the device on O but as soon as P rolls out a problem arises. Community ROMs are not exactly stable (coming from Samsung, no idea w/ OP3T though) and I've read somewhere that PA and/or Sultan received the blobs from OP through bribery or something ... What do you think?
So you have bought the 5 and saw that the 3T was better in comparison?
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Jelly Effect is a deal breaker for me. Search for it on internet, you will see.
Are custom ROMs stable as stock on this device?
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For now, I don't know. I just flash a custom kernel on my device, but still under OxygenOS for now.
Is the camera on custom ROMs any good (as in decent) without camera blobs from OnePlus?
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As I said, I don't know. But some recognized devs build ROMs which camera which seems to be as good as stock one (such as SultanXDA's ROM or ParanoidAndroid)
Also, you said that you bought the 3T to replace your "time-bomb" OP2. How is the 2 a time bomb exactly? And could the 3T become one too?
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The OnePlus 2 was produced with the Snapdragon 810, which is, let's be honest, a sh*t. My user experience with it was pretty bad. Also, I don't know if you saw, but the Nexus 6P (which also has the Snapdragon 810) is victims of problems with this processor: actually, some users have a phone which can't even boot anymore. A user find a solution, but actually, the phone now uses 4 cores (the little cluster) instead of 8 (little + big cluster): I don't want the OnePlus 2 to ends like this, so I bought a new phone, just to be sure.
Aaaaand I f*cked up my answer. Of course, this posts contains answer to your questions @WaseemAlkurdi
Custom roms are far more stable on the 3t then on Samsung devices. Less hacking needed.
Updates are kinda over rated at this point. With the 3t you can just build it yourself. Though I would avoid Los based or PA based roms. Those tend to have the most issues with things like instability.
Think of it this way: would you buy this phone and use it as is, or would you out a custom ROM on it?
It might not get any updates from UP after O, but it's gonna get at least 3 more years of support from Lineage and others.
There are a plethora of "stable" custom built ROMs by several very talented developers.
To say that community ROMs are not stable is an EXTREMELY uninformed comment.
I've been running some form of a custom ROM for the past 7 years over a a multitude of phones following well known developers that in my opinion and experience put out better device software than the factory.
If you do choose the OP3T, you'll not be disappointed as it's a quality device with excellent community support.
Like could I build "OxygenOS P" myself?
And if LOS and PA ROMs aren't stable, is AOSP so? And that makes for a tradeoff for camera quality, as an earlier comment said that camera is the best on PA and Sultan (Sultan's being LOS based AFAIK)
@giant22000
Seems like it's going to be the OnePlus 3t after all, and what remains to be done is convincing my dad that an unknown China OEM (in local market's view - not our view) can make solid hardware.
"To say that community ROMs are not stable is an EXTREMELY uninformed comment."
This is relative. Coming from various Samsung devices, namely the Galaxy Grand 2 and the Galaxy Star (the crappiest device known to mankind) and servicing others including flagship models, it does happen that custom ROMs are, to say the best, variable in stability, ranging from crappiest (CM on the Galaxy S Duos and on the Star) to semi-stable (the stuff on high-end phones.
@ast00
I am a tinkerer by nature, no Android phone is mine unless the bootloader is unlocked, custom ROM, kernel, overclock, and later on, development.
I am only concerned about official updates as this may mean eventually being deserted by the community. Is this the case here?
@casual_kikoo
Thanks for your detailed answers!
Yes AOSP tend to be more stable then the other two. Just look at the thread and you will see issues with bootloops and other things. Yet AOSP based roms do not suffer from this.
The camera is good enough no matter the range. I tested both and to be honest it made little difference.
No you are not gonna build Oxygen OS as it is closed source but then again why would you want to?
Stability, mate. Heard that OOS is the most stable, then comes AOSP, then comes LOS.
And if it were possible to build OOS, the update issue would be fixed of course. But alas, it isn't possible, as you said.
No. Most ROMs run on the 3 and the 3T. I mean you flash the same zip for both phones.
This is good because our community is the size of 2 phone's communities. You will have plenty of support later on.
Take nexus 5 as example, its still getting regular rom updates such as PA or lineage, this device will be no different.. it will receive android updates from xda community for a long time

Custom Rom?

Hi guys just want to ask why custom rom development in Zuk z2 pro is less if you compared it with z2 plus. I'm planning to buy zuk z2 pro because of amoled screen and 6gb ram.
Currently I have s7 edge that I used in banking apps and work but I want this phone just to satisfy my rooting desire.
Are there any available site outside xda where they develop z2 pro rom?
If not what any advise on what device will satisfy my rooting cravings with almost same hardware and less than 300 dollars?
Thank you in advance.
I don't know exactly why there's not as much development. It's already kind of a niche to have a brand that Lenovo is getting rid of after a few years. As far as where actual development is taking place, my impression over the last year has been that there's Siyang/SY and "LR.Team" over on the official (Chinese language) Lenovo forums; he does the kernel development on Mokee and uses that to make ports of popular-in-east-Asia ROMs like Flyme, MIUI, H2OS and sometimes a build or two of AICP or Resurrection Remix, but they're just pet projects for him to play with and he doesn't actually support or keep updating them, and they tend to always have something broken or crashing. Mokee seems to be in perpetual development in much the same way.
zukfans.eu as a community is an interesting mix of the "wild east" of development from China (at least that's where you'll tend to find leaked development builds and basebands being mirrored in English first), occasional resources coming out of Russia, and links to XDA threads that follow the development of things you're already aware of here.
Really, it would appear that the primary actual development on the Z2 Pro is being done by @davidevinavil and @cosmedd with some assistance from others, so AEX and LineageOS. I'm not sure who the guy is that released CosmicOS, other than that he also seemed to release some other ports of other ROMs for the Z2 Pro over the last couple weeks but may not actually be doing original development so much as has got a good compiling environment and some understanding of how to get things to build for the Z2 Pro -- which is still pretty impressive!
I have a Z2 Pro (Z2121), and I got my wife a Z2 Plus (Z2131). I will say that now that we have AEX and LineageOS, it's a lot easier to recommend the Pro... the screen is pretty, sure, but since we're living on the edge with unlocked bootloaders and custom recoveries & ROMS, the things that really make it better are the on-board UFS storage and USB3 connection. Doing nandroid backups in TWRP and transferring internal memory to/from the computer is SO FAST compared to the Plus, which is just eMMC storage and USB2 connection speed.
Anyway, the Z2 Pro isn't being manufactured any more, so quick, grab a Snapdragon 820 with 6GB DDR3-LP memory and 128GB UFS storage and an AMOLED screen for $300 that runs Oreo 8.1 and can run rooted and still pass SafetyNet with a little help from Magisk while you still can. Also, definitely get a good case for it... I've already had to replace the rear glass on mine once, and don't look forward to trying it again.
Terminator.J said:
I don't know exactly why there's not as much development. It's already kind of a niche to have a brand that Lenovo is getting rid of after a few years. As far as where actual development is taking place, my impression over the last year has been that there's Siyang/SY and "LR.Team" over on the official (Chinese language) Lenovo forums; he does the kernel development on Mokee and uses that to make ports of popular-in-east-Asia ROMs like Flyme, MIUI, H2OS and sometimes a build or two of AICP or Resurrection Remix, but they're just pet projects for him to play with and he doesn't actually support or keep updating them, and they tend to always have something broken or crashing. Mokee seems to be in perpetual development in much the same way.
zukfans.eu as a community is an interesting mix of the "wild east" of development from China (at least that's where you'll tend to find leaked development builds and basebands being mirrored in English first), occasional resources coming out of Russia, and links to XDA threads that follow the development of things you're already aware of here.
Really, it would appear that the primary actual development on the Z2 Pro is being done by @davidevinavil and @cosmedd with some assistance from others, so AEX and LineageOS. I'm not sure who the guy is that released CosmicOS, other than that he also seemed to release some other ports of other ROMs for the Z2 Pro over the last couple weeks but may not actually be doing original development so much as has got a good compiling environment and some understanding of how to get things to build for the Z2 Pro -- which is still pretty impressive!
I have a Z2 Pro (Z2121), and I got my wife a Z2 Plus (Z2131). I will say that now that we have AEX and LineageOS, it's a lot easier to recommend the Pro... the screen is pretty, sure, but since we're living on the edge with unlocked bootloaders and custom recoveries & ROMS, the things that really make it better are the on-board UFS storage and USB3 connection. Doing nandroid backups in TWRP and transferring internal memory to/from the computer is SO FAST compared to the Plus, which is just eMMC storage and USB2 connection speed.
Anyway, the Z2 Pro isn't being manufactured any more, so quick, grab a Snapdragon 820 with 6GB DDR3-LP memory and 128GB UFS storage and an AMOLED screen for $300 that runs Oreo 8.1 and can run rooted and still pass SafetyNet with a little help from Magisk while you still can. Also, definitely get a good case for it... I've already had to replace the rear glass on mine once, and don't look forward to trying it again.
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Well explained @Terminator.Thank you.
Also, have you SEEN the actual forums over there on the Z2 Plus side? Check out the last few days of the AEX 8.1 thread... It's a colossal dumpster fire of people asking the same questions over & over and making demands about "fixing" things... Makes the Pro forums look like a paradise of polite folks who know how to use the search feature and attach a logcat (and that's saying something).

What model is the best for ROM's and such?

So... SO many models floating around the web. Which one is the best for custom stuff such as ROMs and what not?
XT1925-2? Or..?
Locklear308 said:
So... SO many models floating around the web. Which one is the best for custom stuff such as ROMs and what not?
XT1925-2? Or..?
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None, given Android Pie is confirmed for the G6 models, people are staying away from developing ROMs.
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None, given Android Pie is confirmed for the G6 models, people are staying away from developing ROMs.
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I apologize, I don't quite follow what you mean.... So are you saying because it's going to get pie that it's basically useless as a phone for custom roms? That just doesn't make any sense to me
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I apologize, I don't quite follow what you mean.... So are you saying because it's going to get pie that it's basically useless as a phone for custom roms? That just doesn't make any sense to me
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Just when I thought I was succinct. No one is building any ROM for this phone as of now. And many people who are holding this phone would likely not switch to a custom ROM because Android Pie would come soon, as soon as this fall. Please do not hold me for either statement, you being a senior member, you may be more knowledgeable about these things.
theres not enough dev support for any g6 device plain an simple if you cant tell by looking through the threads on here. the only one that has had even the tiniest bit of support is the g6+and thats just the most barebones stuff. tbh your best bet would the moto e5 or something i gave up on the g6 play and got a z2 force. i still have the g6 play if you know any devices interested in it
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theres not enough dev support for any g6 device plain an simple if you cant tell by looking through the threads on here. the only one that has had even the tiniest bit of support is the g6+and thats just the most barebones stuff. tbh your best bet would the moto e5 or something i gave up on the g6 play and got a z2 force. i still have the g6 play if you know any devices interested in it
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Ugh, I hate when they focus on the crap devices... why is it so hard to get away from crapoled and have even bare rom support?
The G6+ is just waiting for a dev to get the device. The funds were raised through donations and the device is on its way to India to the dev.
As for the "barebones" comment we have Los 15.1. That's android 8.1. Our devices ship with 8.0 and Moto has not released 8.1 and may skip right to Android 9(P/Pie). The Los rom we have is fully functional and working aside from Bluetooth calling. After flashing Los 15.1 you can then flash Gsi files which are generic system images. This will probably be the successor to roms imo. With Gsi you can flash Android P in a variety of flavors but beware of additional bugs as Pie has only just been official for a month roughly. So yes you could somewhat consider this barebones, I suppose, because Los15.1 had laid the ground work to where other roms could be ported with out much effort.
The g6+ will probably never have a huge variety of roms but atleast we have been promised los16 which should open enough doors to make an impact.
Tl;Dr the g6+ is the only G6 model with a dev. Dev will be receiving g6+ in a week or two(due to international shipping from the US to Indiana). We will get los16. Get a g6+ and be patient but forget the G6 and G6 Play variants.
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Oh and Los16/Pie for Evert/g6+ will probably be released tomorrow.
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