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Hey I just got this phone a couple of weeks back and while its been awhile I used to be a recognized developer on XDA years ago and was wondering if there are any active developers (still) for this device as I notice the list of active development is basically 0. I am planning on building for the device but would like to know who if anyone is developing currently and what the goals are as it seems without anything outside of stock deodexed and (really the biggest one being the kernel with twrp) we have nothing for this phone even now. This makes it seem like either the proprietary information is extremely difficult (although I see the tree is working for the most part) or we just lack developers. Which is it? Thank you and I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I'd like to see what is the current state of things and see if any developers want to work together on this and at least get a clean aosp build or lineage os build. Stepping stones. Certainly with the Note being as similar as it is this shouldn't be lacking to the state it is today.
Hello jcole20
That would be awesome if some devs started doing something with the RP2! If I had the knowledge, I would!! I've had the RP2 since June of this year. I had some issues with it at first but they have been worked out. I really like the phone and it would be cool to see some devs show the RP2 some love lol. Hopefully you can get something started! Take care!
Dennis
jcole20 said:
Hey I just got this phone a couple of weeks back and while its been awhile I used to be a recognized developer on XDA years ago and was wondering if there are any active developers (still) for this device as I notice the list of active development is basically 0. I am planning on building for the device but would like to know who if anyone is developing currently and what the goals are as it seems without anything outside of stock deodexed and (really the biggest one being the kernel with twrp) we have nothing for this phone even now. This makes it seem like either the proprietary information is extremely difficult (although I see the tree is working for the most part) or we just lack developers. Which is it? Thank you and I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I'd like to see what is the current state of things and see if any developers want to work together on this and at least get a clean aosp build or lineage os build. Stepping stones. Certainly with the Note being as similar as it is this shouldn't be lacking to the state it is today.
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I am sure people would love to see some device specific development. I have read that since the release of project treble most people just flash the system image from other roms. I specifically would love to see a stockish rom so I don't loose chroma but still get updated security patches.
I ordered this phone from amazon to try out. I am checking out the community and stuff in the 10 day trial period they give you. I really like the phone... i just hate the software side of things. I feel like its super premium hardware with outdated software... that probably isnt even going to get security patches. Anyway... off to see whats available.
Krazy_Calvin said:
I ordered this phone from amazon to try out. I am checking out the community and stuff in the 10 day trial period they give you. I really like the phone... i just hate the software side of things. I feel like its super premium hardware with outdated software... that probably isnt even going to get security patches. Anyway... off to see whats available.
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Most functionalities work on Pie GSIs out-of-box (you need to manually install ims.apk in order to receive SMS while on LTE, see relevant threads here, or look for it on some GSI threads such as Havoc 2.9). exFAT also works on supported GSI (with arter97's kernel), while it's not supported on stock. The only problems I have so far are bluetooth-related, and also the inability to set SELinux to permissive (not sure which might be the real cause as arter97 stated the SELinux could be permissive).
Bluetooth media audio doesn't work at all on GSI, partly due to the crippling overlays (which prevents aptX from working, and probably some other limitations). Phone calls work with a bluetooth headset, but for some reasons I couldn't properly route phone calls to my Huawei Watch 2 (which means I always have to take the call from my phone directly).
Given the mostly positive result with numerous GSIs (and that some users are happy with stock ROM, or stock-based ROM modifications), active ROM developments for the device itself doesn't seem to be at a high priority (as some might be able to contribute patches for this device to their favorite GSI instead)...
I'm currently working on my own build of LOS. I haven't seen to much active development either I'm new to rom building but looks like we could use all the help we can get!
I think the only active dev we have for this phone is Arter97's kernel and people tinkering with GSIs to get them working as they should. I wish there was more being done with the stock ROM because I like a lot of it's features, but am having a hard time dealing with it's overall instability. I'd be happy to help develop or test in whatever way I can, though.
jcole20 said:
Hey I just got this phone a couple of weeks back and while its been awhile I used to be a recognized developer on XDA years ago and was wondering if there are any active developers (still) for this device as I notice the list of active development is basically 0. I am planning on building for the device but would like to know who if anyone is developing currently and what the goals are as it seems without anything outside of stock deodexed and (really the biggest one being the kernel with twrp) we have nothing for this phone even now. This makes it seem like either the proprietary information is extremely difficult (although I see the tree is working for the most part) or we just lack developers. Which is it? Thank you and I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I'd like to see what is the current state of things and see if any developers want to work together on this and at least get a clean aosp build or lineage os build. Stepping stones. Certainly with the Note being as similar as it is this shouldn't be lacking to the state it is today.
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Yeah, it’s definitely just total lack of interest from other devs. We even have a guy with a prototype Razer Phone 2 with an intact DRM partition and unlocked bootloader (Allowing Netflix HD and Vudu HDX) but we couldn’t even pay anyone to try to port it.
I think if we had a fully working AOSP tree that it would possibly bring other devs into the scene. Who knows though, it has never been a popular device despite how great it is.
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Most functionalities work on Pie GSIs out-of-box.
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Noob question:
Do we have to wait for a stock Android 10 for the device to be able to flash Android 10 GSIs?
EMJI79 said:
Noob question:
Do we have to wait for a stock Android 10 for the device to be able to flash Android 10 GSIs?
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A stock Android 10 (which means a stock vendor image for Android 10) is not necessarily required to have a usable Android 10 ROM (though it may speed up the development to some extent, if it does have one), but for GSI, having a stock Android 10 vendor image can be better (currently it's a hit-or-miss on existing Android 10 GSIs).
Another device that I have, Google Pixel C, never had stock Android 9 (so never had stock vendor images for Android 9, only for up to Android 8.1), but custom Android 9 ROMs are already available (thanks to followmsi's efforts) and are working well. For Android 9 ROMs, the build system builds new vendor images along with system image.
It's just whether we're going to see our device's trees being made possible, so we can start from there to develop our own custom ROMs. The existing materials might be a good starting point in making trees.
- Working with proprietary blobs (from Lineage)
- arter97's kernel (can be useful for making a kernel tree, though one can also consider using stock kernel source as a base)
- Razer factory images and kernel sources (for studying stock ROM/kernel details, and extracting necessary system and vendor blobs)
If you can port LineageOS to this device, great!
I don't understand why people aren't flocking to this device. I came from the LG G6 that probably will be stuck on Oreo forever that is way more popular. The RP2 is cheap, has killer specs + a micro SD card slot + a newer version of Android. Should be a developers dream, you would think. *shrug*
Not sure if anyone's active on this device at present. With RP2's 9.0 MR2 available on the official factory images page the latest proprietary blobs (as well as stock kernel source) are now publicly accessible.
Actually arter97 once mentioned that his RP2 kernel is almost inline with his OP6 kernel (which is also sdm845 and shares some similarities), so it's possible that OP6 (enchilada) trees may be a good starting point, but I'm not sure if any configurations are needed to keep 120Hz working as high refresh rate is relatively uncommon.
My time is very limited so I won't be able to dedicate too much time to experiment on this. At present most functionalities work fine with GSI (including Bluetooth, although tricky and aptX still not working).
IDK how relevant this is anymore but as a new razor phone 2 user to be soon I have been keeping up and it seems that @f(x)THaxxorX could be a possible candidate of what you're looking for I've been keeping up with development on the phone seems like he is doing pretty well even if we get patched gsi which properly work is better than nothing.
Code:
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
*
*/
/e/ (operating system) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
e Foundation - deGoogled unGoogled smartphone operating systems and online services - your data is your data
your data is YOUR data
e.foundation
Here you can see how far everything is working:
Spoiler: Whats working
N8000, N8010, N8013, N8020:
Boot
Audio
Bluetooth
Graphics
Cameras
Sensors
Wifi
USB
Video playback (HW/SW)
OTA Updates
RIL N8000, N8020
GPS, sometimes sattelites get los, I don't know why.
Tethering via USB, WIFI and Bluetooth
consumerir transmitter
Spoiler: Whats not working
Main camera sometimes can't take a picture in full resolution, you could simply reopen the app and retry, or you lower the resolution.
Spoiler: Links
TWRP
N8010 official /e/
N8000 official /e/
N8020 official /e/
last unofficial builds:
N8000, N8005 ROM
N8010 / N8013 ROM
N8020 ROM
Do you like my work?
Than you can simply hit the thanks button and consider to spend me a coffee or a beer,
I'm doing this in my free time and it also costs a lot of money to buy hardware.
donate
Spoiler: Changelog
29.03.2021
06.04.2021
12.04.2021
13.04.2021
10.09.2021
Spoiler: How to improve GPS
You could use a gps.conf from https://app.box.com/s/w57s1v1n3hie7l5lk28i for your location and replace /system/etc/gps.conf.
Or you try GPS Server Optimizer app for a faster 3D fix.
For both methods you need root rights.
Spoiler: How to install it?
Instructions
XDA:DevDB Information
[ROM][9.x][N8000/N801x/N8020][STABLE] /e/, ROM for the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
Contributors
html6405
Source Code: https://github.com/html6405
ROM OS Version: 9.x Pie
ROM Kernel: Linux 3.x
ROM Firmware Required: TWRP 3.3.0
Based On: LineageOS, /e/
Version Information
Status: stable
Release Date: 2021-03-15
Created 2021-03-15
Last Updated 2021-09-10
After reading a bit, it sounds good! Though I wonder if it has more customizations than LineageOS, as I know LineageOS is basically cyanogenmod but I have noticed there none of those cool features cyanogenmod had in the newer versions of LineageOS.
I had never read about it before, but it looks like it could be interesting
KappaTheCapper said:
After reading a bit, it sounds good! Though I wonder if it has more customizations than LineageOS, as I know LineageOS is basically cyanogenmod but I have noticed there none of those cool features cyanogenmod had in the newer versions of LineageOS.
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/e/ isn't for customizations, they're more concerned about security/moving away from Google. I've used it before & the customization features are minimal, nothing more than Lineage.
That being said, it's a great ROM but I'll probably stick with @html6405 build of Lineage instead.
Thx for your answeres,
I'm curious how the rest thinks about it.
Thank you for your hard work to create great ROMs.
I am more looking forward to get Android 10/11 than /e/
Yes, I want /e/ as I'm moving away from Google.
I've setup a little netbook as a local Nextcloud server already, so having /e/ on all of my devices would be great!
Ok,
I will wait until next year, if we have more interested persons than 4 (like now ),
you will get it.
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Ok,
I will wait until next year, if we have more interested persons than 4 (like know ),
you will get it.
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Hopefully people are interested then! I can't hardly wait to try out /e/
Google needs a huge reckoning, and the more users running non-Googled OSes... the better!
e would be great but is ubuntu touch possible ?
Yes - I would be interested to try. I looked at /e/ and it did look promising.
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e would be great but is ubuntu touch possible ?
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I began with ubuntu touch a year ago, but I didn't proceed because of so many incompatibilities. (but it should be possible)
Anyone think it is a good idea of making Android 11 based /e/-foundation rom for those needed?
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Anyone think it is a good idea of making Android 11 based /e/-foundation rom for those needed?
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This would also be possible, but I don't know when they will start to publish /e/ on android 11 based and for this, I first have to bring LOS18.1 stable.
/e/ would be great! Heard about it recently and it sounded like something i would appreciate. The less google the better...
I also want to seize the opportunity to ask if there are any plans for making roms for note 5100/5110/5120. From what i understand it is basically the same device as Note 10.1, but smaller (it's Note 8.0). Amazing little thing! But alas, stuck at LOS14. Which works great, btw, spinning fast and glitch-free, but the further android development seems dead.
Lots of sad users on the forum, including me.. (i do own a N8000 too tho..)
If you could find time for porting some of your work from N8000 to N5100, that would be realy awesome of you! Especially since it probably wouldn't take all that much time since what i understand the devices are practically identical.
You would make plenty of people happy and i would of course donate directly!
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If you could find time for porting some of your work from N8000 to N5100, that would be realy awesome of you! Especially since it probably wouldn't take all that much time since what i understand the devices are practically identical.
You would make plenty of people happy and i would of course donate directly!
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A bit offtopic but still: the SOC is indeed the same as in most Exynos devices from that time and which is the least problem as the issues have been solved for those other devices, but then there is a lot of differences in the hardware. From touchscreen, display, multiple sensors, one of the cameras and the charger those are all different, probably more parts as I only quickly looked over the hardware details, and this is where quite some work is hidden.
Aside from that, releasing a ROM without having at least one device for testing locally is not really feasible. It's not automatically that if it builds it also boots and/or works, that would be too easy.
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A bit offtopic but still: the SOC is indeed the same as in most Exynos devices from that time and which is the least problem as the issues have been solved for those other devices, but then there is a lot of differences in the hardware. From touchscreen, display, multiple sensors, one of the cameras and the charger those are all different, probably more parts as I only quickly looked over the hardware details, and this is where quite some work is hidden.
Aside from that, releasing a ROM without having at least one device for testing locally is not really feasible. It's not automatically that if it builds it also boots and/or works, that would be too easy.
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Sorry about OT. This felt least wrong thread to write this in... You dev html6405?
I know things work like you wrote, and it's not as easy i made it sound. Sorry for that, i know It is always a lot of work.
prkfsz said:
I also want to seize the opportunity to ask if there are any plans for making roms for note 5100/5110/5120.
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I'm sure that it would be 100% possible, but I don't own this device,
like Don Carnage wrote it wouldnt make much sense just to build anything without the ability of testing it.
If i think about, I know that at least I would have to overwork the existing sensor hal, maybe audio (if its also different), some driver's and much more.
I already thought about this some month ago and tried to buy a used device, but they are very rare at our location.
If someone would donate a device, I would try it, only then it would make any sense.
But yes, this is OT here, but you can write me a PM if you want to know more.
html6405 said:
I'm sure that it would be 100% possible, but I don't own this device,
like Don Carnage wrote it wouldnt make much sense just to build anything without the ability of testing it.
If i think about, I know that at least I would have to overwork the existing sensor hal, maybe audio (if its also different), some driver's and much more.
I already thought about this some month ago and tried to buy a used device, but they are very rare at our location.
If someone would donate a device, I would try it, only then it would make any sense.
But yes, this is OT here, but you can write me a PM if you want to know more.
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Well I would be glad to test for you! I can't donate my device, as I don't have multiple of these though... but I can possibly send you logs.
You can post it as an "untested" ROM on the /e/ forums BTW. Maybe others there would test for you. I'm actually testing an "untested" /e/ ROM for one of my other devices. So far that ROM looks pretty f**king awesome! I get better battery life on it, and there's an even deeper control of privacy over LOS.
I don't know, but maybe you could order one from eBay? I just did a search for "n8013" and found a few listings like this one for example... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...sh=item3ff2ab2fee:g:~wwAAOSwiSpgCKcN&LH_BIN=1
As time goes on, I have come to hate and despise Google. They've been doing evil things (Project Veritas has plenty of evidence of this) and Android is becoming more and more locked down/proprietary with a "look, but don't touch" attitude. Even Samsung has just recently started barring third party replacement parts too, joining Apple in this greedy "planned obsolescence" mantra! These older devices without all that crap IMHO are just getting better lol. Yes, they might be slower; but at least we still keep useful legacy features and we can tinker with our devices a bit!
I'm wanting to rip out as much Google as I can from my life and have ownership of my data. I've already taken some steps towards that goal, as I have obtained an old netbook that I've repurposed as a local server.
FanboyStudios said:
Well I would be glad to test for you! I can't donate my device, as I don't have multiple of these though... but I can possibly send you logs.
You can post it as an "untested" ROM on the /e/ forums BTW. Maybe others there would test for you. I'm actually testing an "untested" /e/ ROM for one of my other devices. So far that ROM looks pretty f**king awesome! I get better battery life on it, and there's an even deeper control of privacy over LOS.
I don't know, but maybe you could order one from eBay? I just did a search for "n8013" and found a few listings like this one for example... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...sh=item3ff2ab2fee:g:~wwAAOSwiSpgCKcN&LH_BIN=1
As time goes on, I have come to hate and despise Google. They've been doing evil things (Project Veritas has plenty of evidence of this) and Android is becoming more and more locked down/proprietary with a "look, but don't touch" attitude. Even Samsung has just recently started barring third party replacement parts too, joining Apple in this greedy "planned obsolescence" mantra! These older devices without all that crap IMHO are just getting better lol. Yes, they might be slower; but at least we still keep useful legacy features and we can tinker with our devices a bit!
I'm wanting to rip out as much Google as I can from my life and have ownership of my data. I've already taken some steps towards that goal, as I have obtained an old netbook that I've repurposed as a local server.
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This was ment for n51XX devices, but anyway, maybe it would be good to start build /e/ based on android 9, because it runs very smooth and on android 11 I still have much more work todo.
My first smartphone was a Windows Mobile. I got my hands on an android phone very late. But it was actually fortunate as the information about how, do and don't was readily available then. After I started to use my android phone I quickly came to know about XDA because I was very much interested in trying custom ROM (stock based) than MIUI. But I was glad I bought this particular model (mido). It's been 4 years since then but I still have my first android phone up and running smoothly powered by LOS 18.1.
I am thankful for the hard work that all the developers put in bringing so much to masses for free.
mike_bravo said:
My first smartphone was a Windows Mobile. I got my hands on an android phone very late. But it was actually fortunate as the information about how, do and don't was readily available then. After I started to use my android phone I quickly came to know about XDA because I was very much interested in trying custom ROM (stock based) than MIUI. But I was glad I bought this particular model (mido). It's been 4 years since then but I still have my first android phone up and running smoothly powered by LOS 18.1.
I am thankful for the hard work that all the developers put in bringing so much to masses for free.
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Yeah those amazing WM times!, I still have my HTC Universal working!.
Glad to aquaintance an old timer!
Hello, my name is Luis, I hope everyone is quite well like me, I wanted to ask what is currently the best Pure Android ROM for the device "Xiaomi Redmi Note 9" that has the following features:
- Optimized, light and fluid.
- Good battery life
- NO overheating (except for games)
- Good performance in demanding games
There are many things I do not know yet, can you tell me important things to consider.
Thanks to for the attention, I look forward to a prompt reply.
Well, Project Elixir is probably the best one, even though it got discontinued in January and it's not stable, I use it as my daily driver as I don't want to use the MIUI rabbit hole. It's based on AOSP. In other words, it's just a modded Pixel Experience ROM. You won't definitely game on that phone lol. That MediaTek chipset has already issues on the stock MIUI. The install guide is easy if you will follow the instructions on the Telegram. Group name: ppui_merlin. The Google Pay/Wallet works straight without needing to install the safetynet-patch. The ROM comes with Google Play Services, since it's just Pixel Experience after all.
Okay, thanks for taking the time to write, I hope it will be very useful... I will follow the step by step... I've been trying for more than 3 months to install a custom recovery to the terminal but, I never end up succeeding. The device currently has the bootloader unlocked but it still doesn't work. I already did several times the process with XiaomiTools v2 and it does not work, I was going to do it through commands with CMD but, I had to install some drivers which were not allowed to install because apparently you have to remove other drivers that prevent the installation of the drivers I need, I use a generic cable and another original of the same brand Xiaomi but, this charger is from a Redmi Note 10... it should still work but unfortunately it never works with both cables.
I would like to know how I can completely remove the drivers that my device does not need and at the same time remove the XiaomiTools V2 program permanently both.... To start again with the method of installing the custom recovery by ADB commands with the CMD.
Do you have a more convenient place where I can communicate with you? It would be very useful. Again, thank you very much
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Well, Project Elixir is probably the best one, even though it got discontinued in January and it's not stable, I use it as my daily driver as I don't want to use the MIUI rabbit hole. It's based on AOSP. In other words, it's just a modded Pixel Experience ROM. You won't definitely game on that phone lol. That MediaTek chipset has already issues on the stock MIUI. The install guide is easy if you will follow the instructions on the Telegram. Group name: ppui_merlin. The Google Pay/Wallet works straight without needing to install the safetynet-patch. The ROM comes with Google Play Services, since it's just Pixel Experience after all.
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Mineplayerminer said:
Well, Project Elixir is probably the best one, even though it got discontinued in January and it's not stable, I use it as my daily driver as I don't want to use the MIUI rabbit hole. It's based on AOSP. In other words, it's just a modded Pixel Experience ROM. You won't definitely game on that phone lol. That MediaTek chipset has already issues on the stock MIUI. The install guide is easy if you will follow the instructions on the Telegram. Group name: ppui_merlin. The Google Pay/Wallet works straight without needing to install the safetynet-patch. The ROM comes with Google Play Services, since it's just Pixel Experience after all.
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but PPUI is not very outdated? say
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but PPUI is not very outdated? say
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The maintainer of the PPUI was the same one for Project Elixir. PPUI got abandoned 1 month before the PE. I can't say whether there's a huge difference between them as the Founder of PE is also a Co-founder of the PPUI. The sites also share a similar design, meaning they're really close to each other. Forgot to mention that PE got abandoned around 2/3 months ago. December was the last month when there was a release of 3.4.
Mineplayerminer said:
The maintainer of the PPUI was the same one for Project Elixir. PPUI got abandoned 1 month before the PE. I can't say whether there's a huge difference between them as the Founder of PE is also a Co-founder of the PPUI. The sites also share a similar design, meaning they're really close to each other. Forgot to mention that PE got abandoned around 2/3 months ago. December was the last month when there was a release of 3.4.
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I understand, do you know a current rom that is similar to the pixel OS? (that is not so modifiable)
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I understand, do you know a current rom that is similar to the pixel OS? (that is not so modifiable)
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I would probably say that LineageOS is the baren bones one. You would need to install GApps. But it's still in development and there are only nightly (every week) releases for now. So far, I'm surprised that someone is still interested in this junk MediaTek chipset and still trying to make it at least somehow good for use.
hahaha, it's because I still don't have the money to buy another mobile but well, the case, do you know about any port for the redmi note 9? that is a13 or a14
MantillaGeBlack said:
Hello, my name is Luis, I hope everyone is quite well like me, I wanted to ask what is currently the best Pure Android ROM for the device "Xiaomi Redmi Note 9" that has the following features:
- Optimized, light and fluid.
- Good battery life
- NO overheating (except for games)
- Good performance in demanding games
There are many things I do not know yet, can you tell me important things to consider.
Thanks to for the attention, I look forward to a prompt reply.
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LineageOS is like pure android, extremely light and gets updated often, although I can only find the download link for a NIGHTLY build, meaning it gets updated really often meaning that it can have bugs, I cant find a stable build for some reason anywhere, probably not out yet for LOS 20, and you cant download older versions on the los site sadly
Would like to know the results for anyone using LineageOS 20 on the Redmi Note 9. Any issues with installation or usage? Mine has NFC and since it's close to its EOL, it would be nice to extend its useful life with a reliable custom ROM.
Well, the only long time maintained (Official) ROMs were Project Elixir and Pixel Plus UI which both lost the support by the end of January this year after the PE 3.4 Android 13 release. Following the Unofficial distributions has 0 support by the devs and they always involve risks. LineageOS never had an official support for merlin devices. This seems like the end for this failed phone. Why failed? Well, the MediaTek has a bad reputation overall and this phone just confirms it how crappy their chipsets are. From random freezes to lost partitions. The only solution I probably see is to flash the stock original MIUI 12.0.1 the phone shipped with in 2021 and just buying a new phone or a used Samsung older flagship if you still want to use custom ROMs and have the latest features. It's definitely not worth buying another Xiaomi phone and then throw it away after 2-3 years because it already lost the official support and the modding community.