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Just got the NC. Why does it only pull the mobile web pages if they are available, such as Yahoo? Is this a glitch, or is a setting wrong on the NC?
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Because it's a mobile device...?
There's a UA faker in a 3rd party browser, but I can't remember which.
it swaps for me... like it reads normally for my blog dispite everything else being mobile... but the rest is usually mobile
Do other tablets do this?
Neither my T-Mobile G1 nor my current HD2 ever pulled/pulls mobile web pages.
Does the iPad do this too? Or the Huawei S7? Just curious...
I bought the NC primarily for web browsing, and playing videos. So far, vids are great (plays the two Transformers vids included with the HD2 like a dream, but lousy audio from built-in speaker, average from headphones/earbuds) but surfing is a tad sluggish (10 Mbit broadband).
Should I wait for either a cooked rom or possible fw updates from B&N? Or just keep shopping - I don't need telco capability, just wifi.
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Shootr2 said:
Neither my T-Mobile G1 nor my current HD2 ever pulled/pulls mobile web pages.
Does the iPad do this too? Or the Huawei S7? Just curious...
I bought the NC primarily for web browsing, and playing videos. So far, vids are great (plays the two Transformers vids included with the HD2 like a dream, but lousy audio from built-in speaker, average from headphones/earbuds) but surfing is a tad sluggish (10 Mbit broadband).
Should I wait for either a cooked rom or possible fw updates from B&N? Or just keep shopping - I don't need telco capability, just wifi.
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the other tablet I was reviewing out of boredom did that.
If you are using Dolphin HD, you can set the browser to Desktop.
Shootr2 said:
Neither my T-Mobile G1 nor my current HD2 ever pulled/pulls mobile web pages.
Does the iPad do this too? Or the Huawei S7? Just curious...
I bought the NC primarily for web browsing, and playing videos. So far, vids are great (plays the two Transformers vids included with the HD2 like a dream, but lousy audio from built-in speaker, average from headphones/earbuds) but surfing is a tad sluggish (10 Mbit broadband).
Should I wait for either a cooked rom or possible fw updates from B&N? Or just keep shopping - I don't need telco capability, just wifi.
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Use the Dolphin Browser HD 2 .. Works Awesome.. You can specify the user agent (Android, Desktop, IPhone, IPad) in the settings..
They pull sites based on what the "user agent" is set to in the browser..
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clockcycle said:
They pull sites based on what the "user agent" is set to in the browser..
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A little more accurately, some sites serve different content depending on how the browser identifies itself. In some cases to account for reduced screen real-estate (mobile browser), in other cases to work around bugs in the browser's rendering implementation.
Now, that being said, for some reason the Nook Color developers decided to set the user agent as being an intel-based macintosh. I'm serious, go to like ipchicken.com and see what the UA is.
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A little more accurately, some sites serve different content depending on how the browser identifies itself. In some cases to account for reduced screen real-estate (mobile browser), in other cases to work around bugs in the browser's rendering implementation.
Now, that being said, for some reason the Nook Color developers decided to set the user agent as being an intel-based macintosh. I'm serious, go to like ipchicken.com and see what the UA is.
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I can confirm. Go to hulu.com and click the flash install link. Adobe also identifies the browser as OSX.
You don't need to root and install Dolphin, you can change the user agent in the default browser by typing about:debug into the URL bar and going to settings after that.
What browser is everyone using? I tried many of them, but they all lack something. I am using CM7 RC4.
- Firefox. Excellent in all areas except for speed. Scrolling and loading is too slow to be useful. Does not support flash - I do not care about flash much, but for some it would be a dealbreaker.
- Dolphin HD. Slow scrolling. Supports flash. Incorrectly renders some pages (iclarified.com). Too slow to be useful for me.
- Opera mobile. Very fast. Supports flash. Would be perfect if it had an ability to change browser agent. Without it many websites insist on using mobile version.
What I want is Firefox features with speed of Opera. Does such thing exist?
Maybe mirin browser. I haven't tried it so much but it seems fast. Don't know if it supports flash though.
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I use Dolphin HD. Never had any issue except slow scrolling for graphics heavy sites.
by the way you cab change user agent in opera mobile. look at the Opera thread on how.
i use xscope. I have tried dolphin but i cannot stand how it renders some pages (one that comes to mind is reddit).
Firefox like you said is too slow
Opera seems promising, I am using that every once in a while now but still always find myself going back to xscope
Skyfire 3.0
I would suggest skyfire. Been the best of all worlds for me!
I love and use the stock browser just fine.
Since Opera 11 got flash, I feel the other browsers can't compete. up until that point I was a Dolphin HD Guy.
I use xscope or dolphin HD. I do not like Skyfire or Opera since they proxy your web traffic.
Opera Mobile 11 is the only browser I use now. Too many of the websites that I frequent have really slow scrolling on the webkit based browsers. Now that Opera Mobile has GPU acceleration and flash support I can't use anything else.
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Opera Mobile does not use a proxy unless you turn on turbo mode which will just compress images for you.
was using miren, but i prefer opera mobile now, i like how it render pages much than miren or firefox. Miren is pretty fine too, i like how it handle tabs.
Opera has font rendering issues, particularly in its always-on overview mode. And it's bookmark management sucks. I don't understand why they made their browser have so little in the way of configuration options.
Dolphin HD is my favorite but Opera is definitely faster.
Firefox is a disaster yet with some serious issues. I hope they continue to work on it.
opera has tons of config options, if you go to "opera:config" way to much. But I do agree there are few options that I would like that doesn't exists. like disable page overview/preview, bookmark ordering, disable navigation bar. I have a phone and nook, both running 2.2, and same version of opera. On the phone I can disable the navigation bar but I can't do it on the nook. They must be doing some filtering of configs based on device type or resolution.
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Opera has font rendering issues, particularly in its always-on overview mode. And it's bookmark management sucks. I don't understand why they made their browser have so little in the way of configuration options.
Dolphin HD is my favorite but Opera is definitely faster.
Firefox is a disaster yet with some serious issues. I hope they continue to work on it.
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opera is faster, but the speed isnt enough to make me switch from dolphin hd. it just flows so much better. I dont like the gestures, but like the swipe actions with the shortcuts on the left panel. I also like how it goes to full screen when a site is loaded, and the address bar goes away once it's scrolled away. the tabs are also a joy to use.
Opera Mobile has now replaced dolphin HD for me. The great increase in speed and performance made me switch. I still hope Opera gets better tab and bookmark management though. Once that happens, Opera will easily be the best IMO.
Opera is a complete piece of trash.
The scrolling doesn't lock when you scroll up/down so it jitters left/right as you scroll down a page. It looks awful. Every other mobile browser in existence has this feature. Why did they leave it out?
Websites that are not formatted for mobile always load first in completely zoomed out mode with the letters at 0.5 font, regardless of what you set the "zoom" to in the settings. This means browsing around some websites becomes extremely painful since you have to zoom in a TON for every. single. page click.
And the worst of them all: on content heavy pages (ie when a website doesn't have a mobile version), after it finishes loading, the entire page just goes blank. Literally, completely white. The weird thing is when switching tabs, the tab preview still shows the content. But going back to the page and it's still just fully white. Reloading the page doesn't help.
Opera Mobile has "nice scrolling" but that's about it. What a bug-ridden infuriating, and not to mention HUGE (25+ mb) app.
Hey guys, I was wondering what browser you are using and why you use the one you use. Share your experiences.
Personally I've tried some different browsers and I think Opera Mobile is one of the best, because it scrolls real nice when reading a lot of text like on a forum. It kinda sticks to the text when scrolling up or down. Thereby when you click at a link that's really close to another link, so close you easily make a mistake when clicking, it zooms in real far and marks both links and let you choose one of them.
These options I found really helpfull.
Browsers I've tried so far:
- Mirren Browser
- Dolphin Browser
- Stock Browser
- Opera Mobile
-Boat Browser
->fast and smooth
->html5 support
->desktop view
->flash support by clicking once a symbol on web page, so there you save time, if you don't want to view flash ads
->pinch zoom (not standard on some! See opera)
->tabbed browsing
->text reflow (also not standard on some browsers!)
-Skyfire
-Its quick
-Smooth
-Tabbed browsing
-Pinch to zoom
-Quick links
Ive tried several browsers to include all of the ones you listed, and of them all this one has been my favorite. Although I have not tried the one listed above (Boat) I don't feel the need to try any others as this one for me is perfect.
Stock Browser
Simple !
I would aslo say it has better quality than some other browsers such as, Firfox !
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Stock, all the others are crap.
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Stock browser is the fastest, you can find tests on google, and none of the other browsers are as fast..
I personally like the new opera mobile 11 browser. In integrates flash nicely and scrolls very smooth through the webpages. I especially like the fast scroll option.
Hm, if there is an option to change the user agent, I can fell in love with the stock browser.
But it can't and some webpages are in mobile Optic. I can't live with mobile optic.
Opera is really good but some webpages looks strange with it. Forums are such sites. I don't know, why the opera websites looks other than normal ones.
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->pinch zoom (not standard on some! See opera)
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opera has pinch zoom..
tried boat and skyfire, but i still like opera mobile more. it may not be the fastest one around but it has a great user experience imo
Stock browser? Can only show mobile view and forget about:debug settings!
For me, that is no real internet browsing.
Only used stock. However I liked the one on HTC Desire HD better then the one on this phone (LG optimistic 2X) . Wish it comes in a custom ROM soon.
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Using Boat browser atm, but Opera 11 has been my choice since it came... Never testet flash in Opera, but it may be integrated now(other post here)?
Testet skyfire, xscoope, miren, firefox++ Miren was my favorite on my G2, but 2X somehow lags when trying to switch tabs, so I switched
Stock with AdFree
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dolphin hd,is speed
Miren. Really a fantastic browser.
Opera Mobile, mostly because of the great Computer <--> Mobile Phone synchronization.
Operamobile:
best text reflow ever seen
Opera link
doesnt have problem with login pages at wifihotspots like stock one do
seems to run smoother than stock on O2X
unfortunatelly sometimes Im experiencing issues when i want to download something
I tried Mirren and Firefox4.
I'd love to use Firefox 4 but it causes my LG Launcher to crash and makes the phone nearly freeze.
Mirren seems really good, but i don't like the colors.
Using the stock browser most of the time.
I've always used stock on phones - I have a tablet for heavy web stuff and a phone is really just there to quickly visit a specific site or serve a request, not spend any amount of time on it.
FireFox is certainly nice but I just don't need all the things it offers.
The only time I used a non stock browser was on my very old k800i where Opera's proxy make viewing heavy pages much faster.
Nowadays with fast connections and better CPU there's no need for it though.
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I have to say boat browser mini really is the best browser I've tried so far... and I've tried a few: Opera, Dolphin HD, Miren, xScoope, Firefox ++
Boat has html5, flash, pinch to zoom, tabs ++
I've read through several reviews that the galaxy note web browsing battery test score is low due to the fact that the default explorer takes its toll on the gpu , have any of you tried non stock browsers and had better battery life with it ?
i my self use dolphin HD and i get the same results
its not entirely the GPU's fault. if you check out the PC world, GPU's are more energy efficient than CPUs. ie. my gtx560ti soc had 384 cores running at 2ghz and draws 205w, my i7 2600k only has 8 hyperthreaded cores running at 4.5ghz and it draws 180w, guess which one has much more processing power and better performance per watt?
the reason why the battery dies so quickly with web browsing isnt because of the GPU and CPU, but because of the AMOLED screen. when an AMOLED screen is black, it uses no power. when an AMOLED screen is fully lit up white, it draws full power. most web pages have white backgrounds, which means the AMOLED screen is constantly running at full power, which is the reason for terrible battery life whilst web browsing. some people had a fix for it by modding opera browser to set backgrounds to black instead with white text, that went a long way towards improving battery life.
well part of what you said is true about white backgrounds but thats not the main problem
in gsmarena's battery test it scored about 8.5 hours on video playback while only 3.5 hours in web browsing , sure some of the extra consumption are contributed to wifi or 3g usage but the gap is above the normal range .
My default browser is Opera Mobile,it is not hardware accelaerated so I constantly get between 5-6 hours of non stop browsing with it,besides it supports text reflow when pinched to Zoom and am too used to it from my days on HD2..
The other two ,the Stock and Dolphin rarely I use them.
4 months later and first time I'm hearing about this.
I personally use stock browser. Not a fan of dolphin HD, but dolphin mini is cool and opera mobile is also great.
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I hope that with the ICS browser we will see an improvement, i know it won't be that much because of the Super Amoled Screen but in ICS you can invert the color scheme so white will be black and that will make a big change for people who browse a lot!
My battery life using Opera Mobile seems fairly good im using a CSS file for a black background which I found really helps.
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My default browser is Opera Mobile,it is not hardware accelaerated so I constantly get between 5-6 hours of non stop browsing with it,besides it supports text reflow when pinched to Zoom and am too used to it from my days on HD2..
The other two ,the Stock and Dolphin rarely I use them.
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Yes it is.
"he latest versions of the Opera Mini and Opera Mobile get an extra boost of speed and power. Even on sites with secure encryption or lots of graphics, pages load with a snap and scroll smoothly. You’ll also be able to play the next generation of games on your mobile device, thanks to WebGL hardware acceleration.[/I]"
Opera.com
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Mezoxin said:
well part of what you said is true about white backgrounds but thats not the main problem
in gsmarena's battery test it scored about 8.5 hours on video playback while only 3.5 hours in web browsing , sure some of the extra consumption are contributed to wifi or 3g usage but the gap is above the normal range .
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i dont see how your quote disproves what im saying. the white backgrounds are the main problem believe it or not. videos often use dark colours, hence the extra battery life with videos. even gsmarena mentions the amoled white screen thing in their review iirc.
the ICS browser on the galaxy note has the option to invert colours, that will improve battery life dramatically.
White on Black
Souai said:
i dont see how your quote disproves what im saying. the white backgrounds are the main problem believe it or not. videos often use dark colours, hence the extra battery life with videos. even gsmarena mentions the amoled white screen thing in their review iirc.
the ICS browser on the galaxy note has the option to invert colours, that will improve battery life dramatically.
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That's why XDA mobile (also Youtube) is so good with a black background.
I use Dolphin and find it is very good with lots of great features. However it does chew battery but mainly because I still visit many websites with white backgrounds. I've tried reducing brightness until white is almost grey but battery still disappears.
But again - as I keep saying - small price to pay with such a brilliant screen to be able to view entire web pages. Who cares if you have to charge every night?
I'd also recommend buying extra batteries or a USB recharger if you are going away for more than 24 hours
IMO, the best Android web browser is Maxthon. Super fast, tab browsing, gestures etc.
I use it as my main browser on my desktop PC and now also on my Android phones.
It also has a night mode which darkens the screen and also inverts the page colors so the white background becomes dark gray / black.
jakiman said:
IMO, the best Android web browser is Maxthon. Super fast, tab browsing, gestures etc.
I use it as my main browser on my desktop PC and now also on my Android phones.
It also has a night mode which darkens the screen and also inverts the page colors so the white background becomes dark gray / black.
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Thanks - just downloaded and trying now. Will give it a few days and let you know.
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jakiman said:
IMO, the best Android web browser is Maxthon. Super fast, tab browsing, gestures etc.
I use it as my main browser on my desktop PC and now also on my Android phones.
It also has a night mode which darkens the screen and also inverts the page colors so the white background becomes dark gray / black.
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Been running Maxthon and Boat off and on for the last month or so. Both are very useable and responsive, and the 2 "lightest" full-featured browsers I know of. There are a few things I prefer about each, so haven't settled on a primary, yet... but the slight edge goes to Boat at the moment. Watching System Panel and a few other tools, Boat seems to be requiring fewer GPU and CPU resources while browsing (no flash sites while comparing).
Souai said:
i dont see how your quote disproves what im saying. the white backgrounds are the main problem believe it or not. videos often use dark colours, hence the extra battery life with videos. even gsmarena mentions the amoled white screen thing in their review iirc.
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What the..? This thread is filled to the brim with misinformation.
First of all, using GPU is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. Videos consume so little battery exactly because all decoding, including audio, is done in hardware, there is almost nothing for CPU to do while playing video. Go ahead and install e.g. MXPlayer and disable H/W decoding and try playing videos then; you'll notice battery-life dropping to barely 3 hours.
Secondly, Gingerbread does not use GPU for almost any of the regular 2D operations. And guess what? Web browsers do quite heavy amounts of 2D graphics, and since they're not accelerated all those operations must be done in software. ICS does support GPU-acceleration for quite many 2D operations so you'll see much improved battery-life when browsing the web on ICS.
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I've read through several reviews that the galaxy note web browsing battery test score is low due to the fact that the default explorer takes its toll on the gpu , have any of you tried non stock browsers and had better battery life with it ?
i my self use dolphin HD and i get the same results
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There's an app called Wi-Fi TX Power with which you can set wifi receiver signal strength. I'm not sure how much power it can save, but on my old HD2 it reduced the peak power usage while browsing from 500 mA to some 200/300 mA.
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I've been using Chrome for a long time but it seems very slow to load pages. I've got a 25mbps connection so I don't think that's the problem. In browser tests, Chrome seems to be slower than a lot but OTOH, it has a pretty small memory requirement which seems important on a 1MB machine. I have a Nook HD and have been running MM for about a week. Chrome was slow on CM11 and it seems just as slow on CM13. Anyone using a browser they are really happy with? (FWIW, I tried Puffin but the interface was not a nice as Chrome so I gave up, probably too quickly.)
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I've been using Chrome for a long time but it seems very slow to load pages. I've got a 25mbps connection so I don't think that's the problem. In browser tests, Chrome seems to be slower than a lot but OTOH, it has a pretty small memory requirement which seems important on a 1MB machine. I have a Nook HD and have been running MM for about a week. Chrome was slow on CM11 and it seems just as slow on CM13. Anyone using a browser they are really happy with? (FWIW, I tried Puffin but the interface was not a nice as Chrome so I gave up, probably too quickly.)
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I started using Firefox a few weeks ago for one main reason. The additional add on of ad blockers. I do not have xposed and adaway on my nook right now so gave the adblockers a try. It seems to speed up my browsing a ton. I was a chrome fan, too, but there are so many intrusive ads now that it can't function. There is still occasional lag from whatever unknown issues there are on a 3 year old tablet and its antique processor but I am on the latest aosp and am p!eased it still works.
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I started using Firefox a few weeks ago for one main reason. The additional add on of ad blockers. I do not have xposed and adaway on my nook right now so gave the adblockers a try. It seems to speed up my browsing a ton. I was a chrome fan, too, but there are so many intrusive ads now that it can't function. There is still occasional lag from whatever unknown issues there are on a 3 year old tablet and its antique processor but I am on the latest aosp and am p!eased it still works.
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I use FF on my laptop but switched to Chrome on my desktop because FF doesn't agree with the hardware and Win10. Would spontaneously freeze or reboot every couple days. I will try FF on the Nook and see what happens. Thanks.
I use FF on my laptop but switched to Chrome on my desktop because FF doesn't agree with the hardware and Win10
I use FF on my Toshiba with Windows 10 with no issues. It's my goto browser there too for the same reasons.
I use Opera on any android device, simply because it is the only one I know of that still supports dynamic text reflow, allowing one to zoom in and not have to scroll left and right. It irks me that other browsers do not support this.