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So I'm still waiting for my ZUK to arrive! It's taking forever!
I bought from AliExpress and shipped via regular post.
I currently have the note 4 so as you can guess, it may not be a very wise switch. But I was very impressed with the phone and ordered it as a birthday gift to myself!
I will be comparing them thoroughly!
So which device are you coming from? Share your experience and feel free to compare them pointing out in what areas you feel it's an upgrade and where it's a downgrade!
I am comming from an iphone 4S and I am not sure if I shall keep the device or send it back. Compared to the iphone 4s the screen and performance of the Z1 are magnificient. The camera is a little bit worse, but this does not bother me.
But what bothers me is the general network and talk quality. At my place the device is constantly switching across three different cell ids (once lte, once 3g, once edge). When I hold it on top on the upper side in my hand it looses network connectivity completely (similar to the death grip on the iphone 4). During calls there is always some noise behind - the person I am talking with reports noise and I am hearing noise when the person is talking to me (also after the latest updates). Unfortunately in the usual reviews there is nothing mentioned about this ...
What do others think - are you happy with the network and talk quality?
Note 4 and Redmi Note 2. Battery and CM destroy both
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Well i have an Xiaomi Mi4 too, which is also a great devices and it supports inbuilt root on the developer roms without the need to patch something.
I would have prolly stayed with it to be fair, but it had a hardware defect so i bought something that is available in europe without importing.
I have to say i like the ZUK Z1 with the dual sim and big battery as i travel a lot it´s a great advantage for me.
Let´s just hope Cyanogen fixes all the little bugs and problems and gives us inbuilt root too, then it would be near perfect.
I also have an iphone 4S, but it´s too old and too small and a samsung galaxy s4 mini which is far too slow which a far too little battery and screen size.
For me a big battery is king, the Mi4 also have a 3000 mha battery but the ZUK even tops them.
But theres one thing i have to say, i miss some cool featurs CMIUI the xiaomi android fork has!
1) root inbuilt with permission managment, no need for supersu.
2) battery saver with different profiles and ram freeing etc.
3) edgetap for wakeup
4) a superb camera with a great camera stock app
5) File based OTA updates, even after installing Xposed etc and modding the system you can still just OTA upgrade
6) WEEKLY! Developer rom OTA upgrade
I come from Asus Zenfone 2 4GB, which is worst for:
- too much battery drain (maybe because android os in still 5.0), so I had to recharge before evening
- poor display (the sensor simply doesn't work)
while it has NFC and LTE band 20 (800).
I had Huawei Mate 7.
Nice phone, but the screen developed some white spots, the speaker is bad, ui not good either. Very slow updates.
I also owned 3 Oneplus Ones. All had issues :|
I really like the ZUK. Very smooth, the battery life is crazy good, the screen is beautiful, audio through speaker and headphone jack good, well as you know.
The only bad thing about it is the camera, but it's fixable.
I've sold my OPO today and bought the zuk... It will arrive next week. I hope I don't regret my decision...
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I've sold my OPO today and bought the zuk... It will arrive next week. I hope I don't regret my decision...
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You won't
I hope developers will start making custom roms.. It is way much better when you can chose what you want than having to stay with COS alone
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I come from OnePlus One which is also a good mobile phone and I think ZUK Z1 is a little better than it as a whole.
I am coming from a Nexus 5 wich starting to fall apart and had pretty bad battery life even on marshmallow.
My zuk z1 arrived this Thursday, unfortunately my Sim didn't fit and I had to order a new one which arrived today. So far I am pretty satisfied with it, the screen is good battery life is pretty good so far as I had the time to play with it. I charged it till 80% on Thursday around 19:00 at the moment I have 7% left with a sot of 5 hours.
I am coming from a Nexus 4 wich is still very good phone, but zuk z1 is amazing
I also greeted my ze551ml!
I'm coming from Lenovo P780, that have in common the monster battery of 4000mah.
On my P780, with a Russian custom ROM I was able to reach 2 days.
Unlucky with this device I barely reach evening.
I'll try tu use with a single sim and see if the situation will increase
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I had a Nexus 6 which i smashed. I loved that phone but thought I would get something slightly smaller this time and wanted the fingerprint sensor so the ZUK seemed like a good buy. It's a nice phone but a shame the fingerprint setup is not working properly
From a Oneplus 2.. Sick of battery life and having to use either OxygenOS (why not just use AOSP? Seriously..) or use a ROM I actually like, such as Exodus but then I lose fingerprint functionality.
Much rather the Zuk Z1 with a solid SoC and has a massive battery life, and all the features of the Oneplus 2 but with a good ROM as stock.
I'm very fussy with my phones.
Pleased. I previously owned these phones: BlackBerry 9720, LG Nexus 4, Moto X 1st gen (2013, ghost), and Sony Xperia M2 (D2303). And currently own one Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact (scorpion_windy). My Zuk Z1 brings stellar battery life (1.5 days), CyanogenOS is decent as compared to CyanogenMod (5 incremental updates within a month, no critical bugs or malfunctions). If you can live without LTE/4G band 20 (800mhz), a mediocre camera (pixelated photo, particularly in low light) as well as without NFC support then I do not see any major showstopper. There is no microsd card reader but 64gb storage is more than sufficient for a phone. The Snapdragon 801 CPU is blazzing fast (no stuttering/freeze) but does not support 64-bit instructions (it might not be future proof although I highly doubt it). 3gb of RAM is generous enough for all Android use. The 1080p (IPS?) display is nice although it does not match the Sony Triluminos (Z3TC). Bluetooth works out of the box without issues (as opposed to the stuttering Z3TC scorpion_windy)
Minor issues: the hotspot function (4G to WiFi) sometimes drops (not as stable as a Huawei 5776s-32 mobile WiFi hotspot), the default system font is not fully UTF-8 compliant (causes display issues related to French characters such as ç, é, è ê), does not come with an autoscreen off function when the lid case closes (at least I did not find this option) but such a gap may be closed using a 3rd party app.
No issue with the WiFi component (fast and stable), excellent 4G signal (note my provider does not make use of the 800Mhz band), no much bloatware (not loaded into memory at startup, no Microsoft application such as Cortana or Outlook)
Running CyanogenOS 12.1-YOG4PAS3AJ including Android (5.1.1) patch level 2015-11-01 on 2015-11-03.
coming from a elephone p7000 and previously samsung note 3..
have ma phone for 5 days now and its all smiles...
audio is top notch through both headphone and loud speakers..
os is very satisfying , the numbers of update is great and improvements are noticeable.
battery life is 10/10.......easily 8 hrs on screen time ..............
everyone was complaining about the camera but the updates seem to help..if not just use fv-5v camera app...
only thing i miss a the finger print app lock to lock my apps that was on the p7000.
my personal score 9.5/10 ...........paid 299.00 and very satisfied
Comming from a OnePlus One.
I'm happy with it.
Comming from LG G2. I was looking for another phone with decent battery life.
I resigned from oneplus two invitation and choose ZUK.
Till now I' very pleased with this choice, battery is amaizing, phone works flawlessly. Good choice.
Hey all.
So, here's the thing. I've had my Nexus 5 for nearly 4 and a half years now and I think I'm going to have to replace it soon.
I got a good deal from a friend for a used S7 Edge in very fine condition, but since I'm used to and prefer a untouched android experience etc. I just did not get into it.
So I started looking around for a potential new purchase and it seems that for a mid-upper price range the best candidate is the Nokia 8.
So I just wanted your opinion in this. I'm sure some if not most of you had a similar experience if not having been Nexus 5 users yourselves.
I'm mostly concerned if it gets the latest Google updates like the Nexus series did, if it offers a kind of Pixel-like experience menu and app wise i.e. does the Nokia 8 work with Pixel launcher etc.
Any input is welcome and I thank you for your time in advance. :fingers-crossed:
Hi, I had a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 5X. I found myself in your same situation a couple days before Christmas, when my Nexus 5X decided to demonstrate the famous bootloop of dead. I also cannot stand the customizations applied by the various manufacturer and I want quick updates.
I have considered three groups of smartphones: Android One, Motorola and Nokia.
Unfortunately, the Moto X4 Android One Edition isn't sold here in Italy, the only one in the series that convinced me. I don't like the Xiaomi Mi A1 and the HTC One U11 Life is very overpriced (both sold in Italy). So I excluded the Android One.
Motorola smartphones have almost stock firmware, with some interesting additions (like the Moto app), but also bloatware (some Microsoft apps). Excluding the Moto Z series which costs a lot for the mods that didn't interest me, I had focused on the Moto X4.
But Motorola smartphones have a "small" problem, they are updated every 3 or 4 months, so they have outdated security patches.
Finally for Nokia the choice was the Nokia 8, since 7 is not sold again in the west and 6 (2017) is a medium-low end smartphone.
My choice fell on the latter. In addition to being a real high end smarphone at an affordable price, it has a fully stock firmware and hmd releases security patches monthly. It was also one of the first smartphones, in addition to Nexus/Pixel, to have received Android Oreo (the rollout lasted not a little, but in the end I think it has reached everyone and probably that of the initial build was interrupted to make way for the improving build released at the end of December).
The software is identical to the one you are used to, the only additions are for specific functions such as Glance or double tap to wake (for example). The pre-installed apps are the usual Google apps. Also apps such as dialer, Contacts and Calculator (etc) are those released and maintained by Google and not the AOSP counterpart (the Motorola instead have AOSP apps). The only two foreign apps are Nokia Support and Camera (released and maintained by hmd).
The launcher is the classic launcher3 with some modifications to resemble the Pixel Launcher (whose porting works without problems). Another difference is the accent color, blue like Pixel and not green like Nexus
On the face of updates hmd is keeping its promises, at the moment there is Android 8.0 with the December patches and in some days should arrive those of January (already present in the Oreo beta of Nokia 5 and 6). These don't arrive early in the month like Google does, but anyway they are released every month. It should also come Android 8.1 soon, since it has been confirmed unofficially.
Summing up, I think that Nokia devices, like Android One, are the ones that are closer to the Google philosophy.
Now I have the Nokia 8 for ten days and I am fully satisfied. Having been in your same situation, I hope I have helped you. The difference between Nexus 5X and Nokia 8 is clear, even more so compared to Nexus 5
EDIT: It seems that the January patches are already in rollout for the Nokia 8 (from a report of an user in the Nokia community)
I also came from a 5X that bootlooped itself into oblivion just before Christmas.. and I too am very happy with the Nokia 8, it has been flawless so far.
The launcher took a little bit of getting used too (its like the pixel 2 one - so you slide up.. on my 5X i had to press the middle button to get the tray).. but apart from that nothing changes. (with the exception of the apps noted above by cri347)
Nokia have added their own File manager (Files) but its tiny and works well.. It replaces downloads on the 5X.
There's also currently an annoying bug somewhere between Nokia and google where photos (which is the default gallery app) cant delete anything off the SD card (it was introduced following the January security patches by Nokia) - but you cant really count this against the device as the nexus didn't have SD cards so couldn't have had this issue.
Oh and one other very minor issue.. the NFC reader is weird. It works fine for payments on a chip and pin terminal, but it cant read NFC chips in passports or bank cards, or the little stickers.. it just doesn't work. Just something to watch for if that's important to you - it seems to be a design fault that affects all of them.
Its a great upgrade and its the best phone I've ever used. If it had Wireless charging I'd buy another right now as a spare!
cri347 said:
Hi, I had a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 5X. I found myself in your same situation a couple days before Christmas, when my Nexus 5X decided to demonstrate the famous bootloop of dead. I also cannot stand the customizations applied by the various manufacturer and I want quick updates.
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Summing up, I think that Nokia devices, like Android One, are the ones that are closer to the Google philosophy.
Now I have the Nokia 8 for ten days and I am fully satisfied. Having been in your same situation, I hope I have helped you. The difference between Nexus 5X and Nokia 8 is clear, even more so compared to Nexus 5
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You have been most helpful, I appreciate the feedback! :good:
It seems I'm gonna wait a bit to check out the Nokia 9 and Nokia 8 (2018) that are supposed to come out these next few days.
Overall you've validated my suspicions thus far. Add the ported Google Camera I keep reading around here and things are looking swell! :silly:
sambartle said:
I also came from a 5X that bootlooped itself into oblivion just before Christmas.. and I too am very happy with the Nokia 8, it has been flawless so far.
The launcher took a little bit of getting used too (its like the pixel 2 one - so you slide up.. on my 5X i had to press the middle button to get the tray).. but apart from that nothing changes. (with the exception of the apps noted above by cri347)
Nokia have added their own File manager (Files) but its tiny and works well.. It replaces downloads on the 5X.
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Its a great upgrade and its the best phone I've ever used. If it had Wireless charging I'd buy another right now as a spare!
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Much appreciated info! :good:
Actually I've been using a custom ROM on my Nexus 5 with a ported Pixel Launcher so I am used to it, its fine.
As far as file managers go, no prob there either since I insist on using Total Commander! :cyclops:
So as I said, I'm keeping my eyes open and probably will come around to getting either Nokia 8 (2018) or Nokia 9.
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Nokia have added their own File manager (Files) but its tiny and works well.. It replaces downloads on the 5X.
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That is the stock file manager, was also present on the 5X, so I did not mention it. On the 5X it is reachable from the storage settings, but with Android Oreo has virtually replaced the Downloads app. In fact they are the same app, only that the most recent has access to all the folders. On the Nexus it was still called Downloads in the launcher, while on the Pixel and on this Nokia is called Files. In the apps settings of the Nexus 5X instead it was correct as "Files".
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Oh and one other very minor issue.. the NFC reader is weird. It works fine for payments on a chip and pin terminal, but it cant read NFC chips in passports or bank cards, or the little stickers.. it just doesn't work. Just something to watch for if that's important to you - it seems to be a design fault that affects all of them.
Its a great upgrade and its the best phone I've ever used. If it had Wireless charging I'd buy another right now as a spare!
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Unfortunately in Italy Android Pay isn't yet available, so I cannot try payments via NFC. I have an AiO Printer with an NFC tag for download the Epson app, then a passive tag, like those in passports or credit card and it work properly. I think the NFC antenna is placed near the protective glass of the camera, because it is sensitive there. Just a touch in that area on the tag and it works, even with a cover (which moves the glass away from the surface). Rather I believe there are bugs in the management services of the NFC, it seems that sometimes it goes on standby even when the screen is on, not working until it is deactivated and then reactivates.
Unfortunately, the wireless charging goes against the metal body But charging via cable is very fast, even with the Nexus 5X charger and the battery life is surprising despite the relatively small battery, it double my old 5X.
Petite_Mort said:
You have been most helpful, I appreciate the feedback! :good:
It seems I'm gonna wait a bit to check out the Nokia 9 and Nokia 8 (2018) that are supposed to come out these next few days.
Overall you've validated my suspicions thus far. Add the ported Google Camera I keep reading around here and things are looking swell! :silly:
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I think there will not be a Nokia 8 2018 already, rather a new color (Sirocco, shiny gold at Nokia style ). It would be a contradiction, since the 9 still shares much of the hardware with the 8. There would be too much overlap in the range.
I think it will remain the current Nokia 8, as high end device at a good price and the new Nokia 9 with an 18:9 display and maybe a photographic section at a higher level, all at higher price. Probably all exclusive for China in the first months (Nokia 8 Sirocco and Nokia 9).
Our Nokia 8, as a camera hardware is not bad, confirmation is given by the third-party apps, they have to work on the software and a new app seems to be coming out, with full Zeiss collaboration.
However, the January patches have already arrived at all, hmd is confirmed good about updates. I am very satisfied
Hello All,
Here I am, a typical Indian consumer, looking for value for money as always. No doubt I have been a Nokia fan when it ruled cellular industry and I can't express my happiness by knowing their much awaited return with Android. After using my Lenovo Vibe P1 for almost 2.5 years, I am looking for a change. Not to mention how pathetic my experience has been with this phone but for a regular usage, I am very much satisfied. Ignoring serious issues like phone heating till it feels like it will melt at any moment or the worst ram management I could have hoped for, there were some brights sides like 5000 mAh battery, fingerprint scanner to make me feel sophisticated which served its purpose and I need a change now.
Considering the love from past for Nokia, I am seriously considering this device for next couple of years of usage. Advantages I see are looks, processor, display, and most importantly Android One! But the biggest downside right now for me is the price! It's ridiculously priced at ₹26k which calls for premium of almost double for it's somewhat competitors Note 5 pro (₹15k), Zenfone Pro m1(₹13k).
My question is, is it worth of paying double? I am searching for logical reasons which will let my biased mind to go for Nokia 7 plus.
As of now Zenfone Pro m1 has already assured P & Q updates with bimonthly security patches.
Snapdragon 636 is what I think can suffice my requirements as I am a regular user who can play games if hardware permits. (Believe me, I had to uninstall all games from my current device. So I can make sacrifices! ) So not a "heavy" or "die hard" gamer.
5000 mAh battery will not let me forget the nightmare I had with my current device.
So considering average usage, is Nokia 7 plus a worth to give a shot? And more over additional question, hows is vibration sensitivity? I used to miss almost all the calls while my current device is in pocket, so everyone who cared for me are now used to this but still looking to surprise them all by picking it up in 1 ring! So please let me know how is the vibration intensity! (You can tell me in comparison with Moto as motos have vibration sounding louder than ringtones!)
Awaiting responses!
Cheers!
adwaitk007 said:
Hello All,
Here I am, a typical Indian consumer, looking for value for money as always. No doubt I have been a Nokia fan when it ruled cellular industry and I can't express my happiness by knowing their much awaited return with Android. After using my Lenovo Vibe P1 for almost 2.5 years, I am looking for a change. Not to mention how pathetic my experience has been with this phone but for a regular usage, I am very much satisfied. Ignoring serious issues like phone heating till it feels like it will melt at any moment or the worst ram management I could have hoped for, there were some brights sides like 5000 mAh battery, fingerprint scanner to make me feel sophisticated which served its purpose and I need a change now.
Considering the love from past for Nokia, I am seriously considering this device for next couple of years of usage. Advantages I see are looks, processor, display, and most importantly Android One! But the biggest downside right now for me is the price! It's ridiculously priced at 26k which calls for premium of almost double for it's somewhat competitors Note 5 pro, Zenfone Pro m1.
My question is, is it worth of paying double? I am searching for logical reasons which will let my biased mind to go for Nokia 7 plus.
As of now Zenfone Pro m1 has already assured P & Q updates with bimonthly security patches.
Snapdragon 636 is what I think can suffice my requirements as I am a regular user who can play games if hardware permits. (Believe me, I had to uninstall all games from my current device. So I can make sacrifices! ) So not a "heavy" or "die hard" gamer.
5000 mAh battery will not let me forget the nightmare I had with my current device.
So considering average usage, is Nokia 7 plus a worth to give a shot? And more over additional question, hows is vibration sensitivity? I used to miss almost all the calls while my current device is in pocket, so everyone who cared for me are now used to this but still looking to surprise them all by picking it up in 1 ring! So please let me know how is the vibration intensity! (You can tell me in comparison with Moto as motos have vibration sounding louder than ringtones!)
Awaiting responses!
Cheers!
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Well, a phone isn't all about hardware. Yeah, it may have a SD660 that's just a minor upgrade over the SD636 in RN5 pro and it may have just 4gb ram but the software experience also counts.
Nokia is the only OEM right now except Google to guarantee next 2 years of Android updates and 3 years of security updates.
Nokia 7 plus isn't a value for money device in any way. Not even Nokia advertises it as such. It's a premium mid range device. You are paying that premium cost (double) for gorgeous sturdy design and continuous software support. Also, the camera is better on Nokia 7 plus even though not by a huge margin but keeping in mind the regular updates Nokia provide, they can improve it in future.
Software support doesn't come cheap. Yeah, it could have been priced under 25k for the psychological satisfaction though.
Going by your requirements, I feel RN5 pro is great for you and even Zenfone pro.
The vibration intensity is great on Nokia 7 plus.
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
Nokia 7 plus is a good phone with great build quality. I bought it offline for 25.5k. There are few stutters due to aggressive battery saving governor. Nokia's service is fast and cheap. My brother's Nokia 5 got screen replacement for 2k from service centre.
If you don't want it-
Honor 8 pro will be a better choice for you if you want value for money. It's for 21k on Flipkart. My experience from Honor phones is great. They don't slow down their phones like some manufacturers do(Moto,Apple) and provide 2 major android updates to all phones except holly series. Bootloader is unlockable and you won't void your warranty.
K.khiladi said:
Well, a phone isn't all about hardware. Yeah, it may have a SD660 that's just a minor upgrade over the SD636 in RN5 pro and it may have just 4gb ram but the software experience also counts.
Nokia is the only OEM right now except Google to guarantee next 2 years of Android updates and 3 years of security updates.
Nokia 7 plus isn't a value for money device in any way. Not even Nokia advertises it as such. It's a premium mid range device. You are paying that premium cost (double) for gorgeous sturdy design and continuous software support. Also, the camera is better on Nokia 7 plus even though not by a huge margin but keeping in mind the regular updates Nokia provide, they can improve it in future.
Software support doesn't come cheap. Yeah, it could have been priced under 25k for the psychological satisfaction though.
Going by your requirements, I feel RN5 pro is great for you and even Zenfone pro.
The vibration intensity is great on Nokia 7 plus.
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
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Thanks buddy for your response. Regarding software updates, even though Zenfone Pro m1 is not "Android 1", they too promised 2 updates on Android P & Q and bimonthly security patches. So I am not convinced on "software" being a reason for this. I am on Android 6 right now since last couple of years and I doubt what difference it makes to have Android 8 on day to day use. Even Xiaomi is prompt on providing continuous update. I have Mi4i since last 3 years with my family member and it still receive updates once or twice a year. So paying this much as a premium for "software" is not convincing.
Regarding build quality, yes, I do agree! Nokia 7 plus looks stunning!! But again, we put heavy back cover, tempered glasses on top of Gorilla! I mean! What's the use of this then!
shubham412302 said:
Nokia 7 plus is a good phone with great build quality. I bought it offline for 25.5k. There are few stutters due to aggressive battery saving governor. Nokia's service is fast and cheap. My brother's Nokia 5 got screen replacement for 2k from service centre.
If you don't want it-
Honor 8 pro will be a better choice for you if you want value for money. It's for 21k on Flipkart. My experience from Honor phones is great. They don't slow down their phones like some manufacturers do(Moto,Apple) and provide 2 major android updates to all phones except holly series. Bootloader is unlockable and you won't void your warranty.
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Thanks buddy for your response. Please let me know more about service center network of Nokia. This might help me to go for it. I have very pathetic experience for Lenovo. The service centers here in Pune works on 100 tokens/day system and you have to be in queue early morning to get the token. Then they will keep your phone for at least a month for some silly fixes! Which makes you feel like a looser!! I still remember the old Nokia service centers were you were given satisfactory service in one go and you leave the service center with a smile!
Please let me know how is the service center network of Nokia now? are they tied up with third party service providers like most of the brands have done in recent years? or have a dedicated store to resolve issues on priority without any discrimination of issues?
I think u know the answer well.but still let me give u some suggestions. If u want to have after sale support go with nokia. If u are okay without after sale support go with xiaomi. And if u can live with a normal front cam and decent after sale support go with asus max pro m1. But if u want all the satisfaction go with nokia 7 plus. I think u will get a good value of ur old phone in exchange n also arrange a icici debit or credit card on which u will have a instant cashback of 10% on amazon.
One more thing if u r a fan of custom roms my only suggestion will be for redmi note 5 pro.
adwaitk007 said:
Thanks buddy for your response. Regarding software updates, even though Zenfone Pro m1 is not "Android 1", they too promised 2 updates on Android P & Q and bimonthly security patches. So I am not convinced on "software" being a reason for this. I am on Android 6 right now since last couple of years and I doubt what difference it makes to have Android 8 on day to day use. Even Xiaomi is prompt on providing continuous update. I have Mi4i since last 3 years with my family member and it still receive updates once or twice a year. So paying this much as a premium for "software" is not convincing.
Regarding build quality, yes, I do agree! Nokia 7 plus looks stunning!! But again, we put heavy back cover, tempered glasses on top of Gorilla! I mean! What's the use of this then!
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Nokia provides monthly security updates and Zenfone provides bi monthly updates. It may not sound huge to you but if some vulnerability comes up by chance, Nokia would have upper hand.
Well, new android platform updates brings better security, better performance and better features. Xiaomi provides updates but doesn't upgrade the underlying android version. The RN5 pro is still running Android 7.0 and in next few months, Android 9.0 is coming. There's day light difference in 6.0 and 8.0. The difference is gonna be bigger with 9.0.
Receiving 1 or 2 updates a year maybe enough for you but not everyone else. As I can sense from your arguments, being on latest software isn't a priority for you and that's fine.
But it does take a premium to provide monthly and not bi-monthly security updates or 3 updates a year . It may not seem much to you as you brought in Zenfone too into the argument but that's the only phone from Asus running on stock Android. Nokia has more than 10 devices.
The camera on Nokia 7 plus is exceptionally well. Also, RN5 pro maybe as fast as Nokia 7 plus but there's also a point about overall smoothness which is different from speed.
The SD660 is costly than SD636 and the phone also has ZEISS branding which again asks for a premium.
Also, Xiaomi's selling strategy is different from Nokia's.
Regarding build quality, Nokia durability tests have time and again showed that even without using case or tempered glass, they can withstand a few falls easily. Now whether or not your Nokia device will break in one fall also depends upon you luck. The in hand feel of the Nokia 7 plus is on par with the Pixel 2/XL. I would suggest you to go to a shop or mall and feel the device yourself.
I will simplify it for you.
The best value for money device is Zenfone pro just as you want to.
Zenfone pro - No fast charging support. If you can live with it, go for it.
RN5 pro - Miui. If you can live with it, go for it for better front cam performance compared to Zenfone pro.
I don't think custom rom support means much to you but if it does, both Zenfone pro and RN5 pro will be good for you.
Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
vivek638 said:
I think u know the answer well.but still let me give u some suggestions. If u want to have after sale support go with nokia. If u are okay without after sale support go with xiaomi. And if u can live with a normal front cam and decent after sale support go with asus max pro m1. But if u want all the satisfaction go with nokia 7 plus. I think u will get a good value of ur old phone in exchange n also arrange a icici debit or credit card on which u will have a instant cashback of 10% on amazon.
One more thing if u r a fan of custom roms my only suggestion will be for redmi note 5 pro.
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Well I have left that custom ROM world long back. Had craze but not anymore. Well please let me know about Nokia service centers in India. How are they now as I asked in reply above.
K.khiladi said:
Nokia provides monthly security updates and Zenfone provides bi monthly updates. It may not sound huge to you but if some vulnerability comes up by chance, Nokia would have upper hand.
Well, new android platform updates brings better security, better performance and better features. Xiaomi provides updates but doesn't upgrade the underlying android version. The RN5 pro is still running Android 7.0 and in next few months, Android 9.0 is coming. There's day light difference in 6.0 and 8.0. The difference is gonna be bigger with 9.0.
Receiving 1 or 2 updates a year maybe enough for you but not everyone else. As I can sense from your arguments, being on latest software isn't a priority for you and that's fine.
But it does take a premium to provide monthly and not bi-monthly security updates or 3 updates a year . It may not seem much to you as you brought in Zenfone too into the argument but that's the only phone from Asus running on stock Android. Nokia has more than 10 devices.
The camera on Nokia 7 plus is exceptionally well. Also, RN5 pro maybe as fast as Nokia 7 plus but there's also a point about overall smoothness which is different from speed.
The SD660 is costly than SD636 and the phone also has ZEISS branding which again asks for a premium.
Also, Xiaomi's selling strategy is different from Nokia's.
Regarding build quality, Nokia durability tests have time and again showed that even without using case or tempered glass, they can withstand a few falls easily. Now whether or not your Nokia device will break in one fall also depends upon you luck. The in hand feel of the Nokia 7 plus is on par with the Pixel 2/XL. I would suggest you to go to a shop or mall and feel the device yourself.
I will simplify it for you.
The best value for money device is Zenfone pro just as you want to.
Zenfone pro - No fast charging support. If you can live with it, go for it.
RN5 pro - Miui. If you can live with it, go for it for better front cam performance compared to Zenfone pro.
I don't think custom rom support means much to you but if it does, both Zenfone pro and RN5 pro will be good for you.
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That's one of the great feedback buddy! Appreciate that. That makes me consider Nokia 7 plus again. Just a few question, how about the hardware related issues people have mentioned here. Like I read somewhere regarding heat issue while charging, or display having LCD issue with yellow/blue spots, etc ?
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Well I have left that custom ROM world long back. Had craze but not anymore. Well please let me know about Nokia service centers in India. How are they now as I asked in reply above.
That's one of the great feedback buddy! Appreciate that. That makes me consider Nokia 7 plus again. Just a few question, how about the hardware related issues people have mentioned here. Like I read somewhere regarding heat issue while charging, or display having LCD issue with yellow/blue spots, etc ?
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Service centre is yet to test by me after all these long years
But i can assure you that u will not regret after buying this phone
Regarding screen issue i m one of tge victim. And has already changed my another n7p. Its my 2nd device of the same phone. N still isuue is there. But it will get resolved (i hope so) otherwise i will have to visit nokia care for display.
As this phone is rolling out to maximum no of countries it will take time to resolve the different issues faced by different person here. In others post or on reddit or even on nokia forum people are telling that they have visited with n7p n they did resolved the issue. So my guess is after sales service nokia is doing good.
Coming to your preference of buying the device it totally depends on u how much u want to spend. If u have a budget of 25k go for it. If u have more budget then wait for one+6. If ur budget it tight go for either Zenfone max pro or note 5 pro.
I have personally used rn5p and its an awesome device.(not with miui in my case).
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That's one of the great feedback buddy! Appreciate that. That makes me consider Nokia 7 plus again. Just a few question, how about the hardware related issues people have mentioned here. Like I read somewhere regarding heat issue while charging, or display having LCD issue with yellow/blue spots, etc ?
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People in India confuse warming and heating all the time. Any device with fast charging will warm up as a large amount of current is pushed into the battery. Anything under 45 degree Celsius is normal. Nokia provides a support app with the phone from where you can check the device's temperature.
Regarding display issues, yeah, there have been some but I feel those were issues with the first batch of devices. If you buy the device and find any issue with the display, just ask for a replacement from Amazon. They have replacement guarantee for 10 days.
As for the overall display, the display is tuned to be punchier that makes colors warmer and thus, you may find the whites to be a little yellow.
I would really suggest you to go to reliance digital or stores like that and see for yourself if they have a Nokia 7 plus on show so that you can check it.
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Service centre is yet to test by me after all these long years
But i can assure you that u will not regret after buying this phone
Regarding screen issue i m one of tge victim. And has already changed my another n7p. Its my 2nd device of the same phone. N still isuue is there. But it will get resolved (i hope so) otherwise i will have to visit nokia care for display.
As this phone is rolling out to maximum no of countries it will take time to resolve the different issues faced by different person here. In others post or on reddit or even on nokia forum people are telling that they have visited with n7p n they did resolved the issue. So my guess is after sales service nokia is doing good.
Coming to your preference of buying the device it totally depends on u how much u want to spend. If u have a budget of 25k go for it. If u have more budget then wait for one+6. If ur budget it tight go for either Zenfone max pro or note 5 pro.
I have personally used rn5p and its an awesome device.(not with miui in my case).
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Thanks buddy! Appreciate that. Well I have budget but I am bit uncertain on spending it on a device for which almost same hardware specs are out there at almost half of the price. I loved OnePlus5t but again it's too much for me. I am yet to fully utilize my 32 gb lenovo, that kindda user I am. So OP6 is in another league for me.
Well I am quiet considering RN5P 6GB variant against Nokia 7 plus. And yes, service center matters a lot. You can't guarantee what bad luck you carry!
BTW paying that much and compromising on issues is not what i think is good. I hope this screen issue is fixed in upcoming lots as I can see few of you have already reported it. and considering the sell volume, the percentage is quite a lot
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People in India confuse warming and heating all the time. Any device with fast charging will warm up as a large amount of current is pushed into the battery. Anything under 45 degree Celsius is normal. Nokia provides a support app with the phone from where you can check the device's temperature.
Regarding display issues, yeah, there have been some but I feel those were issues with the first batch of devices. If you buy the device and find any issue with the display, just ask for a replacement from Amazon. They have replacement guarantee for 10 days.
As for the overall display, the display is tuned to be punchier that makes colors warmer and thus, you may find the whites to be a little yellow.
I would really suggest you to go to reliance digital or stores like that and see for yourself if they have a Nokia 7 plus on show so that you can check it.
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Thanks buddy. Well I have seen someone have posted screenshot of "orange" android logo coming up saying device has reached heating limit. Well what's the limit for this device. My current Lenovo Vibe P1 is also with Fast charging support and believe me I know what heating means. You can iron your cotton cloths if my device is connected to charger, that much it heats up!
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People in India confuse warming and heating all the time. Any device with fast charging will warm up as a large amount of current is pushed into the battery. Anything under 45 degree Celsius is normal. Nokia provides a support app with the phone from where you can check the device's temperature.
Regarding display issues, yeah, there have been some but I feel those were issues with the first batch of devices. If you buy the device and find any issue with the display, just ask for a replacement from Amazon. They have replacement guarantee for 10 days.
As for the overall display, the display is tuned to be punchier that makes colors warmer and thus, you may find the whites to be a little yellow.
I would really suggest you to go to reliance digital or stores like that and see for yourself if they have a Nokia 7 plus on show so that you can check it.
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Nah they don't have that much stock. Even i waited for about a week n no call from them about stock then only i opt out for amazon. N this screen issue may be fixed by further updates. Maybe m more concerned about it as i was using s8 previously. So lets see wether it get fixed or not. Anyway we have nokia care so not to worry that much
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Thanks buddy. Well I have seen someone have posted screenshot of "orange" android logo coming up saying device has reached heating limit. Well what's the limit for this device. My current Lenovo Vibe P1 is also with Fast charging support and believe me I know what heating means. You can iron your cotton cloths if my device is connected to charger, that much it heats up!
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That orange android logo shouldn't happen. That's a faulty hardware. Anything under 45 degree is fine.
Right now, I am just browsing between few apps and the device temperature is 36 degree. If I do his while cheating, the temperature will go to 41 easily and if i watch videos or play game while charging, it will go even further upto 45.
That's why, playing games or watching videos( more so streaming videos) isn't advisable.
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If u want to know about battery status here is an example
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Nah they don't have that much stock. Even i waited for about a week n no call from them about stock then only i opt out for amazon. N this screen issue may be fixed by further updates. Maybe m more concerned about it as i was using s8 previously. So lets see wether it get fixed or not. Anyway we have nokia care so not to worry that much
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Umm... I guess Nokia underestimated the demand for the phone. Also, the first batches of phone have some QA issues sometimes.
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so considering these few hardware issues, I think I should wait for couple of months more. Hope they will fix this in upcoming lot.
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so considering these few hardware issues, I think I should wait for couple of months more. Hope they will fix this in upcoming lot.
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Yup. And who knows maybe they will reduce the price a bit too.
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Hello All,
Here I am, a typical Indian consumer, looking for value for money as always. No doubt I have been a Nokia fan when it ruled cellular industry and I can't express my happiness by knowing their much awaited return with Android. After using my Lenovo Vibe P1 for almost 2.5 years, I am looking for a change. Not to mention how pathetic my experience has been with this phone but for a regular usage, I am very much satisfied. Ignoring serious issues like phone heating till it feels like it will melt at any moment or the worst ram management I could have hoped for, there were some brights sides like 5000 mAh battery, fingerprint scanner to make me feel sophisticated which served its purpose and I need a change now.
Considering the love from past for Nokia, I am seriously considering this device for next couple of years of usage. Advantages I see are looks, processor, display, and most importantly Android One! But the biggest downside right now for me is the price! It's ridiculously priced at ₹26k which calls for premium of almost double for it's somewhat competitors Note 5 pro (₹15k), Zenfone Pro m1(₹13k).
My question is, is it worth of paying double? I am searching for logical reasons which will let my biased mind to go for Nokia 7 plus.
As of now Zenfone Pro m1 has already assured P & Q updates with bimonthly security patches.
Snapdragon 636 is what I think can suffice my requirements as I am a regular user who can play games if hardware permits. (Believe me, I had to uninstall all games from my current device. So I can make sacrifices! ) So not a "heavy" or "die hard" gamer.
5000 mAh battery will not let me forget the nightmare I had with my current device.
So considering average usage, is Nokia 7 plus a worth to give a shot? And more over additional question, hows is vibration sensitivity? I used to miss almost all the calls while my current device is in pocket, so everyone who cared for me are now used to this but still looking to surprise them all by picking it up in 1 ring! So please let me know how is the vibration intensity! (You can tell me in comparison with Moto as motos have vibration sounding louder than ringtones!)
Awaiting responses!
Cheers!
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Nokia 7 Plus( I've had it since 2nd May)-
1. Screen: My unit has no issues. Its punchy, vibrant and nicely visible in sunlight.
2. Battery: Amazing. Normal warming while charging is in every device today( unless you play games while charging; I also take off my case while charging so it hardly gets warm). Very well optimised battery. First phone of mine that I don't charge every day.
3. Service Centers: Xiaomi SC's are not bad. I've experienced with 3 of them from 3 different cities of Punjab. If you are polite to them, they return the favor. Don't know anything about Nokia ones yet.
4. Android One: You know about Nokia, HMD was amazing with updates even last year when they weren't Android One. This year will only get better. ALSO
ASUS in their launch event did not "PROMISE" 2 android updates and bimonthly security updates. THe word used by him were " Most likely". They can back off from that anytime.
5. Vibration intesnsity great... Speaker loudness is meh.
6. Camera: Not that better than RN5Pro. Besides, everyone and their aunties download Gcam on RN5Pro and N7Plus so its a moot point.
7. Value For Money: Nothing beats RN5Pro. DOn't buy Zenfone its bleh. Nokia7p is overpriced by about 4k.
I tried for RN5pro for 3-4 flash sales but couldn't so went for 7Plus. I don't regret it as its a great device.
So
Nokia 7Plus is better than RN5Pro.... but its not Rs 11k better... certainly NOT...
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Yup. And who knows maybe they will reduce the price a bit too.
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yeah. I guess price is the concern. Also Nokia 6.1 is launched at 19k. Well not that great hardware again to pay that much premium!
Xebeck said:
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Nokia 7 Plus( I've had it since 2nd May)-
1. Screen: My unit has no issues. Its punchy, vibrant and nicely visible in sunlight.
2. Battery: Amazing. Normal warming while charging is in every device today( unless you play games while charging; I also take off my case while charging so it hardly gets warm). Very well optimised battery. First phone of mine that I don't charge every day.
3. Service Centers: Xiaomi SC's are not bad. I've experienced with 3 of them from 3 different cities of Punjab. If you are polite to them, they return the favor. Don't know anything about Nokia ones yet.
4. Android One: You know about Nokia, HMD was amazing with updates even last year when they weren't Android One. This year will only get better. ALSO
ASUS in their launch event did not "PROMISE" 2 android updates and bimonthly security updates. THe word used by him were " Most likely". They can back off from that anytime.
5. Vibration intesnsity great... Speaker loudness is meh.
6. Camera: Not that better than RN5Pro. Besides, everyone and their aunties download Gcam on RN5Pro and N7Plus so its a moot point.
7. Value For Money: Nothing beats RN5Pro. DOn't buy Zenfone its bleh. Nokia7p is overpriced by about 4k.
I tried for RN5pro for 3-4 flash sales but couldn't so went for 7Plus. I don't regret it as its a great device.
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Nokia 7Plus is better than RN5Pro.... but its not Rs 11k better... certainly NOT...
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Hey thanks buddy. Well that's quite an honest review.
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yeah. I guess price is the concern. Also Nokia 6.1 is launched at 19k. Well not that great hardware again to pay that much premium!
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I feel it's their strategy. They don't wanna sell in heaps like xiaomi. 10 years back when Nokia was reigning, even then they used to charge premium for their phones. They still know that the brand name holds prominence. They want to be seen as a premium smartphone brand.
They already are a profitable company in India just after a year in market.
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I feel it's their strategy. They don't wanna sell in heaps like xiaomi. 10 years back when Nokia was reigning, even then they used to charge premium for their phones. They still know that the brand name holds prominence. They want to be seen as a premium smartphone brand.
They already are a profitable company in India just after a year in market.
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yup. Well, while browsing through flipkart, found Honor 8 pro is going at discounted price. it's in just ₹20 k !! I think that's an amazing offer which I should seriously consider! What say ?
I need a new phone for my mum. I'm looking for something with a decent camera, performance and battery life with no known issues for around £300. The Nokia 8 seems to check these boxes but I'd love to hear from some Nokia 8 users to confirm/deny this? What's low light camera performance like with the latest update? Thanks
Why not the Nokia 6 2018 and still get a decent phone and save a considerable chunk of money.
Low light shots with the stock app is crap on the 8.
Agree, Nokia 8 has been out for more than 8 months now? There's a little hardware refresh recently - Nokia 8 Sirocco, the camera lens specs is of older design, they're having problem updating the camera app at the moment, furthermore it is not an Android One/Project Treble, which means update of the device will be very limited in the future?
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It doesn't have a decent camera.
FlexiPack said:
I need a new phone for my mum. I'm looking for something with a decent camera, performance and battery life with no known issues for around £300. The Nokia 8 seems to check these boxes but I'd love to hear from some Nokia 8 users to confirm/deny this? What's low light camera performance like with the latest update? Thanks
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I recently helped my mum upgrade to a Nokia 5 (model choice was made based on price and availability). She has said she is finding quite easy to use and enjoys that her solitaire game looks alot clearer on the new screen (haven't quite managed to get her into Marvel Strike Force just yet).
My point being that in general any android phone running near stock android will be fine for a non-techy person.
So if your budget extends to include the Nokia 8, go for it.
But at the same time, if she isn't going to leverage all the features that contribute to the cost of a Nokia 8 you might as well pick her up of the cheaper ones and use the difference to grab things like extended warranties and some cases/screen protectors etc.
Thank you for all your input. I decided to go ahead and get mum the Nokia 8 and I'm happy to say she's delighted with it!
hey everyone
iam about to buy nokia 7 plus (190usd) from outside my country since they are not selling it here
my main concern is phone build quality
i have seen some articles about the charging port and it needs to be repaired since it is outside my country it would be difficult for me to send it for repair
and how the phone perform in day to day tasks and is it reliable ?
After one full year of use, no issues with charging port. Highly reliable day to day device for me, feels snappy and fast. No desire nor intention to replace it anytime soon.
I bought it last November and I'm perfectly happy. Although I'd note that at first it had a Novatek panels with the known problems, but I sent it to the care center and they replaced the screen in three days. Since then the phone has been perfect.
The only complaint I'd have is that it's not possible to unlock the bootloader in an official way.
There are now better phones than nokia 7 plus. I dint have any problem with nokia 7 plus, better to compare with latest models
If you can't acces guarantie better buy another phone with a better quality port. Mine is ****ed up after 8 month and the web is full of people like me with all Nokia phones.