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I have been wondering, how secure are android roms? What I mean is, if I should be worried about getting personal data stolen or any such thing concerning web surfing, online purchases, etc? Which is more secure? Stock Roms or cusom Roms? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Supermannypr said:
I have been wondering, how secure are android roms? What I mean is, if I should be worried about getting personal data stolen or any such thing concerning web surfing, online purchases, etc? Which is more secure? Stock Roms or cusom Roms? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Grow up mate... :laugh:
There are thousands of user who are enjoying custom roms and still you think it insecure...
erpurohit said:
Grow up mate... :laugh:
There are thousands of user who are enjoying custom roms and still you think it insecure...
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This is a harsh response to what I believe is a very valid question by the original poster. People ask questions because they have concerns or simply do not know the answer. They do not need people like you having a shot at them simply because they asked a question.
To the OP: The people who put together the custom ROMs you find on XDA are mostly genuine people looking to share their knowledge and experience by building ROMs that make our devices operate faster, smoother, and feature enhanced. They are not out to load them with malware to scam you and suck your credit and identity dry.
Having said that however, it could be done if the wrong person or group of people starting building ROMs with that purpose.
I personally will only ever download a ROM from a builder or group of builders who have a credible reputation here in the Forums to be sure.
I hope that eases you mind a little.
Take care.
I didnt meant to be harsh... Sry if it feel so...
Thankyou.
Trinnity66 said:
This is a harsh response to what I believe is a very valid question by the original poster. People ask questions because they have concerns or simply do not know the answer. They do not need people like you having a shot at them simply because they asked a question.
To the OP: The people who put together the custom ROMs you find on XDA are mostly genuine people looking to share their knowledge and experience by building ROMs that make our devices operate faster, smoother, and feature enhanced. They are not out to load them with malware to scam you and suck your credit and identity dry.
Having said that however, it could be done if the wrong person or group of people starting building ROMs with that purpose.
I personally will only ever download a ROM from a builder or group of builders who have a credible reputation here in the Forums to be sure.
I hope that eases you mind a little.
Take care.
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I have always had that question. I have to agree on only installing roms from devs with a credible reputation, at the end of the day this is what I would use for everything and I need to feel ane be sure I am secure. Thanks for your answere, I can keep my peace in that aspect.
Thanks to all the devs that dedicate there time with their amazing Rom projects!! Keep up the great work!!!
Allmost every "custom" roms include a rooted kernel and CWM recovery. That will give anyone who can do "adb" operations the option to reboot your phone to recovery. Sim,pattern or pin lock doesn't matter as long as phone is in their hand.
Battery off - reboot to CWM, connect usb, and everything on your phone is available to copy to computer using adb commands.
The only way to secure custom ROM run by a rooted kernel with CWM is to ENCRYPT all files on your phone.
As a ROM Maker, I always care about every permissions for every single file. I everytime match everything true permissions but not 777 even if I fail 999 times.
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Think about this. Someone finds your phone, you had lost it. Turns off pulls out sim so you can't find its location, reboots into recovery, connects to computer, then adb shell and do the command dd /data. Dumps all the data into a .IMG file. Repacks it into an Odin flash able tar. Flashes to his phone. Has all your info.
I wouldn't worry though, most people know nothing of this. I don't worry
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O-T and AlwaysDroid, you guys are absolutely right, but the OP still raises a legitimate concern. There's lots of other threat assessments that will rule out physical access. It's a matter of practicality. In some places, traditional martial arts self-defense training can help or save you, in others most clashes do not involve hand-to-hand fighting.
I'm typing on xda app, do forgive Mr for forgetting names, but others here are right, too. A developer's reputation goes a long way, and these teams also put their code out for others to see. I can't tell what's inside, but rely on the fact that others look at it to learn, compile themselves, cherry pick, etc. Also, I do prefer when devs post MD5s.
Back to OP, which primarily asked about data leakage, is there an android equivalent of Little Snitch on Macs?
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Yes they are
use basic custom roms if u wish. . which r stable..
dont prefer nightlies/ alpha if u r a starter
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burakgon said:
As a ROM Maker, I always care about every permissions for every single file. I everytime match everything true permissions but not 777 even if I fail 999 times.
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Nobody like frequent force closes.. do they ?
AlwaysDroid said:
Think about this. Someone finds your phone, you had lost it. Turns off pulls out sim so you can't find its location, reboots into recovery, connects to computer, then adb shell and do the command dd /data. Dumps all the data into a .IMG file. Repacks it into an Odin flash able tar. Flashes to his phone. Has all your info.
I wouldn't worry though, most people know nothing of this. I don't worry
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Wow! I had no idea that someone could do that... I know that this has a very slim chance of happening, but is there anyway to avoid it?
Yes, they are.
since the source is open to all
and anyone could examine it
i would say they are somewhat secure
Supermannypr said:
Wow! I had no idea that someone could do that... I know that this has a very slim chance of happening, but is there anyway to avoid it?
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Not really :/ almost no one can do this, I mean unless the guy that finds your phone is a resident here or at roots wiki and even then, I doubt it. The thing is, as long as your rooted, your data just isn't as safe. You couldn't do that on stock, cause its not rooted. The only thing I could imagine for the future would be a recovery that asks for a pin code before allowing you to enter. Its unavoidable, and really nothing to worry about. Just turn off USB debugging when not in use, use dev options to only give apps root access and not adb (not sure if it stops it in recovery as well) and don't lose your phone.
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Apropos encryption
O-T said:
Allmost every "custom" roms include a rooted kernel and CWM recovery. That will give anyone who can do "adb" operations the option to reboot your phone to recovery. Sim,pattern or pin lock doesn't matter as long as phone is in their hand.
Battery off - reboot to CWM, connect usb, and everything on your phone is available to copy to computer using adb commands.
The only way to secure custom ROM run by a rooted kernel with CWM is to ENCRYPT all files on your phone.
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Is there a way to enable file system encryption in Cyanogenmod 7?
AW: Are Custom Roms secure?
de333 said:
Is there a way to enable file system encryption in Cyanogenmod 7?
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System encryption is a 4.1 feature; not with cm 7
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Well, Samsung stopped updating this capable phone which is similar to the nexus s(they claimed it can't handle ICS or jb while nexus s gets the latest firmware) Custom ROMs especially jb ROMs make your phone feel new unlike stock which are outdated. Just flash one from a credible developer & u won't regret
There is no motive from the developers. What should they get? Your FB passwords? And sell them to your girlfriend?
Agree
Supermannypr said:
I have always had that question. I have to agree on only installing roms from devs with a credible reputation, at the end of the day this is what I would use for everything and I need to feel ane be sure I am secure. Thanks for your answere, I can keep my peace in that aspect.
Thanks to all the devs that dedicate there time with their amazing Rom projects!! Keep up the great work!!!
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I am 100% agree, with the your comment bro. We should install the ROM from recognized and good reputed developers.
:good::good::good::good:
Eirwn said:
There is no motive from the developers. What should they get? Your FB passwords? And sell them to your girlfriend?
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Really? So if there was - just for the sake of argument - a backdoor or a keylogger on your phone that was placed there by a dev, you're saying they would get nothing out of that? Is a bit naive dont you think?
Hi guys, one of my friends have been installing ICS 4.1.1 on his GT-N7000. i wanted to know what is needed to do this, how can i find this rom and i wanna know isn't there any problem to do this ???
i appreciate any help and explanation, tnx 4 your time
grunge.boy, please do not double post. You have already asked this question in the [FAQ] HELP THREAD - Noob Friendly thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30446034&postcount=503
grunge.boy said:
Hi guys, one of my friends have been installing ICS 4.1.1 on his GT-N7000. i wanted to know what is needed to do this, how can i find this rom and i wanna know isn't there any problem to do this ???
i appreciate any help and explanation, tnx 4 your time
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I'm afraid you won't be able to flash that rom to your device for some reasons..
1. That rom does not exist
2. Yo gotta read hell a lot before even thinking of flashing a device unless you want to instabrick your device
Have a nice day
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msedek said:
I'm afraid you won't be able to flash that rom to your device for some reasons..
1. That rom does not exist
2. Yo gotta read hell a lot before even thinking of flashing a device unless you want to instabrick your device
Have a nice day
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I think he may be referring to CM10 from this link -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796217
letters_to_cleo said:
I think he may be referring to CM10 from this link -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796217
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Someone who is calling the 4.1.1 ICS, as said above he has to read a lot. Betting he will repost tomorrow plz help my note is stuck on flashing Samsung logo, hope not but. ............ Cya tomorrow
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Braxos said:
Someone who is calling the 4.1.1 ICS, as said above he has to read a lot. Betting he will repost tomorrow plz help my note is stuck on flashing Samsung logo, hope not but. ............ Cya tomorrow
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you don't need to undermine people's capabilities if then can flash or if they will brick their Note.
The fact that the thread is there posted with instructions on it means they know the risk and the consequences behind it. If you say they get their Note brick... then so be it. XDA is a brain pool of helpful people willing to help in anyway they can an to those individuals who presents their problems here.
That's the beauty of having a wonderful community like XDA... People helps if your willing to be helped. And besides, any custom and seasoned flashers out there would know... you can make any much sweeter in flashing and seeing a wonderful custom ROM running on your phone without taking the RISK itself. I'm sure most season devs/flashers have brick their Note at some point in their lifetime.
That's the risk in life. You can't succeed in savoring your achievements... if at some point you don't learn your mistakes and the risks behind it.
Good thing we have quite a helpful bunch of guys here willing to shell out their time in giving expertise to Noobs and members alike.
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you don't need to undermine people's capabilities if then can flash or if they will brick their Note.
The fact that the thread is there posted with instructions on it means they know the risk and the consequences behind it. If you say they get their Note brick... then so be it. XDA is a brain pool of helpful people willing to help in anyway they can an to those individuals who presents their problems here.
That's the beauty of having a wonderful community like XDA... People helps if your willing to be helped. And besides, any custom and seasoned flashers out there would know... you can make any much sweeter in flashing and seeing a wonderful custom ROM running on your phone without taking the RISK itself. I'm sure most season devs/flashers have brick their Note at some point in their lifetime.
That's the risk in life. You can't succeed in savoring your achievements... if at some point you don't learn your mistakes and the risks behind it.
Good thing we have quite a helpful bunch of guys here willing to shell out their time in giving expertise to Noobs and members alike.
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The problem, as I understand it is that people think flashing is like installing windows and adding software to it, if something goes wrong I will reinstall OS and all will be fine. Do think more then 20% knows that they can make their phone illegal without known it? Flashing and you get a corrupted efs GG then you will never know it if the flash goes well and you will not need to look up your imei! A fast example for how people can get them in trouble.
Many guides if not all are so explained that they think you know basics or leading to other posts saying do that method without informing right, thinking the other post explains everything fine because some steps are so said as everyone knows. If you have a friend who doesn't know **** about flashing let him read CM10 flashing guide and then let him flash your note, or at least to tell you what he could do step by step. Don't get me wrong it isn't only this guide but everyone because they are write for people who know some methods, so methods that are known are not listed or just get a mentioning as a simple word even a misleading one. Example they say restart the phone to recovery and not boot the phone to cwm recovery mode and then flash or wipe or whatever.
You see that there are some things that are misleading. I lost on my old ace the imei from just flashing stock roms from dbt to the Netherlands one and changing csc with *#272*imei# or something like this code cab to search now.
Sorry I could continue posting over and over other issues but atm at work and multitasking with the note to search find repost anything goes on my nerves.
Hope I got gave you a idea why I was/ I am against helping people that not even trying to read something about the thematic they are looking.
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Braxos said:
The problem, as I understand it is that people think flashing is like installing windows and adding software to it, if something goes wrong I will reinstall OS and all will be fine. Do think more then 20% knows that they can make their phone illegal without known it? Flashing and you get a corrupted efs GG then you will never know it if the flash goes well and you will not need to look up your imei! A fast example for how people can get them in trouble.
Many guides if not all are so explained that they think you know basics or leading to other posts saying do that method without informing right, thinking the other post explains everything fine because some steps are so said as everyone knows. If you have a friend who doesn't know **** about flashing let him read CM10 flashing guide and then let him flash your note, or at least to tell you what he could do step by step. Don't get me wrong it isn't only this guide but everyone because they are write for people who know some methods, so methods that are known are not listed or just get a mentioning as a simple word even a misleading one. Example they say restart the phone to recovery and not boot the phone to cwm recovery mode and then flash or wipe or whatever.
You see that there are some things that are misleading. I lost on my old ace the imei from just flashing stock roms from dbt to the Netherlands one and changing csc with *#272*imei# or something like this code cab to search now.
Sorry I could continue posting over and over other issues but atm at work and multitasking with the note to search find repost anything goes on my nerves.
Hope I got gave you a idea why I was/ I am against helping people that not even trying to read something about the thematic they are looking.
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I understand what your driving at. BUT, you have to give leeway and freedom to individuals to choose and experience for themselves failures in order for them NOT to commit it again.
Sure there are a lot of misleading informations circulating around, but with proper guidance from some forerunners here, I'm sure those people having problems with can be helped not to commit the same mistakes again in the future right? You yourself have made some flaws before, but where does it lead you now? you become more wary and careful already not to make the same mistakes you've done before, right?
That is why there is a Q&A thread here... for people to ask and for people to give advice to those who are in dire need of helping.
Though I agree some people are just so stubborn to read but hey, at least we who knows better can give an angelic help to those who are trigger-flashers so that they may in turn learn from their mistakes in the future and at the same time, give their assistance to those other noobs... so pretty much it's a vicious cycle over and over again... but hey, I'm glad I am able to part my assistance to those who needs it. At the end of the day, I can sleep with a smile knowing that I have help some poor fellow irregardless where and who he might be in this world.
Guys can anyone can tell me why 4.3 root is taking this much time?
Please @DooMLoRD
Just give us an updated toolkit
kraken000 said:
Guys can anyone can tell me why 4.3 root is taking this much time?
Please @DooMLoRD
Just give us an updated toolkit
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hey .. there is a way to root 4.3 .. Mine is rooted already it`s not an easy way but can be rooted if you can unlock the bootloader.
here is a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427995
There is also a thread on rooting 4.3 without unlocking bootloader. It was posted by @sijav
But they are all for either unlocked bootloader or by flashing Ftfs and they are quite long procedures.
We want instant solution like vroot or doomlord 's awesome toolkit.
If you understand what I meant.
Patience
Then I suggest to patiently wait. Because even the Z/ZL People are also waiting
Kratellismorru said:
Then I suggest to patiently wait. Because even the Z/ZL People are also waiting
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You see the thing is that Z/ZL people will get it for sure but it is very uncertain for Zr because we dont get everything.
Like Roms and kernels etc.
Thats why we need to raise our voices.
kraken000 said:
You see the thing is that Z/ZL people will get it for sure but it is very uncertain for Zr because we dont get everything.
Like Roms and kernels etc.
Thats why we need to raise our voices.
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I feel u mate. Instead raising our voice, rather raise our knowledge on how to develop better. The support from developers are very few because this device is not launch to some countries.
kraken000 said:
Thats why we need to raise our voices.
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does doomlord or some other root dev owe u money or something? or do they work for you? have some damn respect
chewdaniel said:
does doomlord or some other root dev owe u money or something? or do they work for you? have some damn respect
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This one I have to agree.
chewdaniel said:
does doomlord or some other root dev owe u money or something? or do they work for you? have some damn respect
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Sorry I didn't mean to be offensive
I'm just freaking out because multi -window tweak for xposed Just came out and I want it.
And also anim mod and auto hide keys are my favourite apps and I can't install them.
I'm very sorry to be rude.
Hope you'll forgive me.
nope. u didn't offend me.
just that u need to understand most devs do what they do as a hobby, and sharing it with the community. demanding that they do things (and using offensive language) is not cool bro...
since 4.3 they've been TRYING to get root to work with the toolkit (and also things like kingo, vroot) but it seems sony's security is just too tough for them to crack right now. u make it sound as if they don't want to do it... lol
read the guide by sijav as posted above. that will help. it's troublesome, yes, but it will do the job.
hello!
Any updates?
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Thats why we need to raise our voices.
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raise your voices? Frankly you don't even have permission to **** here!!
well guess what? you do raise your voice and dev's can simply stop any development on this device!! then you can develop your phone yourself, ... like changing wallpaper, or installing some cool app :cyclops:
looks like you're paying them to do something and they're not do their job properly!!!
(I'm not telling this you specifically there are lot's of users like you here)
anyways here's the deal:
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you can do root very much easily,
unlock your bootloader, (which will result in void warranty and lost DRMs and side effects which will cause in global warming!!)
flash a custom kernel, (any kernel that works with ZR and has a working recovery)
go to Recovery and then flash superSu Root,
flash back your stock kernel so your poor device can boot!!!
simple isn't it? no need to hack the device!!!!
this rooting method has been officially announced by Sony website!
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it's all about locked bootloader
you need to greatly appreciate Doomlord and those chinese devs that made vroot or kingo so 4.2.2 or 4.1.2 can be root easily, (they do some sort of hack!!)
because of that we can have root with lock bootloader for 4.3!! or else we had no choice but to unlock our bootloaders!!
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about update, if there was any, you have been noticed by now as many many and many users are waiting for it!!!
sijav said:
raise your voices? Frankly you don't even have permission to **** here!!
well guess what? you do raise your voice and dev's can simply stop any development on this device!! then you can develop your phone yourself, ... like changing wallpaper, or installing some cool app :cyclops:
looks like you're paying them to do something and they're not do their job properly!!!
(I'm not telling this you specifically there are lot's of users like you here)
anyways here's the deal:
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you can do root very much easily,
unlock your bootloader, (which will result in void warranty and lost DRMs and side effects which will cause in global warming!!)
flash a custom kernel, (any kernel that works with ZR and has a working recovery)
go to Recovery and then flash superSu Root,
flash back your stock kernel so your poor device can boot!!!
simple isn't it? no need to hack the device!!!!
this rooting method has been officially announced by Sony website!
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it's all about locked bootloader
you need to greatly appreciate Doomlord and those chinese devs that made vroot or kingo so 4.2.2 or 4.1.2 can be root easily, (they do some sort of hack!!)
because of that we can have root with lock bootloader for 4.3!! or else we had no choice but to unlock our bootloaders!!
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about update, if there was any, you have been noticed by now as many many and many users are waiting for it!!!
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Hey
I'm very sorry man
I've apologised earlier
See I didn't mean to be rude or offensive,it's just that I'm freaking out....
Please forgive me if you can
And your work is awesome...
I apologise to all the developers like doomlord etc.
#thehappyway
[I'm new here so I may not be posting this in the right place. If so I would appreciate knowing where I should in the future.]
I have a Nexus 5X and I want to install Xposed to support Greenify advanced options. I don't want to use Xposed if it will risk damaging the new phone or invalidating the warranty.
Basic question, is it safe to use?
thanks for your help
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[I'm new here so I may not be posting this in the right place. If so I would appreciate knowing where I should in the future.]
I have a Nexus 5X and I want to install Xposed to support Greenify advanced options. I don't want to use Xposed if it will risk damaging the new phone or invalidating the warranty.
Basic question, is it safe to use?
thanks for your help
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At the moment you're rooted or you unlock bootloader in US the warranty is void. (in Europe no)
What you're afraid of? Seriously it don't gonna explodes or burn...
If you don't know what you're doing but you're really curious and what to do it... Just one word
LEARN!!!
Search on forum how xposed work etc... And you'll see that you always have a way to repair mistake you made
This should probably be posted on your device forum but i think it can help other here
Hi everybody!
I just thinked maybe that rooting will be easier, like on old phones with One Click Root or the recovery install package. I love custom roms etc, but I just scared to do it on my S10 and I'm lazy to do all the firmware download, install this, install that etc.
What do you guys think? I will be easier sometime or nah?
"I will be easier sometime or nah?"
Ask the developer to make one click root
xewier said:
Hi everybody!
I just thinked maybe that rooting will be easier, like on old phones with One Click Root or the recovery install package. I love custom roms etc, but I just scared to do it on my S10 and I'm lazy to do all the firmware download, install this, install that etc.
What do you guys think? I will be easier sometime or nah?
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one of the great many reasons that some of us appreciate the difficulty level of rooting is to keep the faint of heart away. If youre too lazy, then you might need to reach out to folks who get paid to do this type of stuff for you.
many of us hope that root will always be a chain link fence keeping those who dont feel required to do anything to get access. Dont want to click 12 things on your mouse and type a few characters on a keyboard? Dont root. Simple as that.
Mind you, if you happen to buy a galaxy s10 USA version. You dont have to worry anything!
i have software to install and was told to root my phone before i did it because its a one time only link. is there just an app i can download to do this?