Why Phone Software Update Clears A Lot of Space (SM-N950F) - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Dear All,
Asking as above. I have tried other software like CCleaner, SD Maid and clearing the cache at phone startup; however I find that the space keeps accumulating till I get a new update phone security update from Samsung -- suddenly 6 to 7 GB will be freed compared to prior struggling clearings of max 2 GB.
Does anyone know the reasons and how to replicate this without waiting for a phone software update?

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[Q] Having Problem While playing games

My Xt 1068 after the update, hangs various times whenever I play games. I Still haven't mounted a SD card, Should i do that will it boosts the working of my phone. As it has been getting worse day by day and affecting the phone's normal functioning too. I haven't installed anything in it yet. There are only like 5 apps which i have installed from Play store and there is still 8 Gb free. I Don't know why my phone is slow.
That is very normal to happening after the update... to fix do a Factory Data Reset
Factory Data Reset is a tool used to remove everything that was imported, added or installed on the device. Keep in mind, when using this feature everything is deleted. Will be like you just turning it on for the first time, but it will be in the same OS version that it is now...
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Android 5.1.1 LMY48B finally the memory leak is solved!!

After 8 months google finally fix the memory leak in android lollipop. Thanks :crying::crying: Am I dreaming?
Having the memory load increasing is not, in itself, a memory leak.
The Nexus 5 comes with 2 Gb of RAM, the goal is not to have memory load below 300 mb in every case (or you can buy a 512 mb-RAM smartphone)
The leak is a bug in memory management which increase memory load without any limit, thus slowing the device and crashing it. I did not experience this under 5.1 with Franco and stock kernel.
I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
jzviagin said:
I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
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This is kind of interesting. I wonder if the system management is to blame or apps themselves.
jlmcr87 said:
I found a solution. If you change the kernel (for example Franco kernel) all problems are solved.
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did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
Issue stared and '+1 confirmed'.
Can someone mark the bug as critical?
jineshpatel30 said:
did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
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The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
i don t know if is due to the memory leak but after 3 days (fresh factory image flash) i m facing the annoying launcher redraw and high system memory usage:780 mb with 1,2 gb of peak
jlmcr87 said:
The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
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I dont want to create a seperate thread so I am asking here. Got Nexus 5 a few days ago, started reading about 5.1 update and memory leak issue. Tried to update to 5.1 but gave up(usb driver issue). Today I noticed that ram usage for apps increases and does not drop down after shutting down apps (games mainly). System ram is constantly about 300-400 but app ram got from 300 to over 600 in about 6 hours. Is this also a memory leak or maybe apps just do not completely shut down?
Memory going up does not mean there is a memory leak, it means memory no longer in use has not yet been garbage collected which is fine.
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
surrealjam said:
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Isnt suppost Linux do same memory management with 2GB or 3GB of Ram?
Wich leads me to if KK,JB and ICS didnt had this memory leak problem how come this happens in LP?
That is one thing that I dont understand....
surrealjam said:
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
Simonna said:
Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
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exactly ! but ppl need to understand that what they need with phone.
i don't see any app that need more than 2GBs for ram on market plus multitasking is exceptional in N5 for me bcz i don't use tons of chatting apps who always runs and eats all resources of phone , i use heavy games and N5 still works great with highest graphics...and i bet none of Samsung or any other premium devices works with them as impressive as this 1.5yr old device still do ! so for me N5 is still more than enough
phone shouldn't be excessive better in specs than what you wants from phone. Bcz it does't make any sanse unless one have lots of money and he/she only want to waste it one way or another
I thought this was fixed at first. I picked up my phone this morning and went to check news and the whole thing was froze for like 5 seconds then starting working, but stuttering. Do I checked apps and low and behold I had about ten apps restarting, just like in the previous lollipop. Except this time I only see half my apps restarting (so far) instead of nearly all of them.
Cum said:
My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
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sounds like almost my case
I've read several android blogs they claim damaging, HTC, ect have fixed the memory leak in their roms (although I heard people claim this in cm12 also). Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm this is true?
I tried loading and swiping CoC 5 times and my free Ram still remains at 1200.
My battery life has definitely gotten significantly worse after 5.1. Drained over 20% in just an hour with very light usage.

Mate 10 9.0.0.159 C432E4R1P9 Issues

Hi everyone
I ve installed the update through the system update 2 days ago and since then I m experiencing some annoying bugs. Hoping they will be hot fixed soon. Wonder if anyone has a workaround on any of these.
Recent apps are still there even though cleared.
Apps on background gets killed, dev options is on default.
Online games cause the device to disconnect from wifi, even the wifi network gets unlisted. No problem on 4g.
Since the update I recieve SD card corrupt notification. Camera has problems writing on the SD card, and gallery freezes due to same problem (I suppose) SanDisk 32g, never had a problem. I ll try formatting the card via device.
Lastly small visual bugs here and there. Especially when rotating screen, and going in and out from the recent apps.
Good luck with all
Hi,
Looks like you really should backup then factory reset your phone...

Media Storage and Other storage issues

Hey all,
I hope someone can help as I've searched this issue here and on Reddit and found various answers to the problem but no solutions. My brother has a Pixel 5 and the "media storage app" hogged around 50 gb of storage (same issue as Oneplus, however Oneplus solved it with an update) and filled the device. In my searches I found 3 answers; it's the media on the phone just displayed incorrectly, it is a wrong reading from the phone, or it is duplicated media which doubles the used storage (makes more sense as you'll see below).
Another Issue was Android System taking only 2 gb of space when normally it should be around 11-12 (as on my Pixel 2 and Pixel 4a), but this was solved with a wipe.
Due to various software issues with the phone I convinced him to do a complete wipe and reflashing of the stock firmware through Android flash tool. Also knowing Whatsapp caused weird issues in the past (with his Pixel 1) I also made him delete all previous backups from the phone and Google drive and clean his media (deleted only a few hundred mb) then back up again. The backup was 27 gb (not around 50 as media storage showed).
We did the wipe and flashing and everything worked well. But when we started restoring the data again and Whatsapp started restoring media then the Media Storage app started growing again, I am yet to determine if it is duplicating or not, but I am 100% convinced that there is something wrong because I checked my Pixel 2 with Android 11 and my Pixel 4a with Android 12 beta and in both cases this app barely takes a few mb of storage, all the other "media" is properly organized as it should be in it's respective category, on his phone though its all in "other".
I am really out of solutions other than wiping Whatsapp completely clean without media, only backing up chats, but this doesn't guarantee that all the media won't duplicate or fill up in Media storage again. At this point I'm thinking of waiting until Android 12 official but it also doesn't guarantee anything since it's not clear where the issue is coming from exactly.
Jeeeesze... Deep Six WhatsApp asap.
The trouble it's causing is the least of it's damage potential. No social media app should ever be allowed to run as an app on the phone, period!!!
WhatsApp itself is a high risk liability just like FB, Twitter etc. A proven destroyer of worlds.
You aren't the customer, you're are the product.
Censored and molded by someone else's twisted vision, and end game.
For a few dollars more... power/money is their only motivation. Mining and weaponing your data Inc.
blackhawk said:
Jeeeesze... Deep Six WhatsApp asap.
The trouble it's causing is the least of it's damage potential. No social media app should ever be allowed to run as an app on the phone, period!!!
WhatsApp itself is a high risk liability just like FB, Twitter etc. A proven destroyer of worlds.
You aren't the customer, you're are the product.
Censored and molded by someone else's twisted vision, and end game.
For a few dollars more... power/money is their only motivation. Mining and weaponing your data Inc.
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I totally understand the risks of using whatsapp but we can't just stop using it when everyone else is. Also I'm not 100% sure it's ONLY whatsapp causing this, there might be other apps as well.
Of123 said:
I totally understand the risks of using whatsapp but we can't just stop using it when everyone else is. Also I'm not 100% sure it's ONLY whatsapp causing this, there might be other apps as well.
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I can. I'm not like everybody else... say it.
Of123 said:
Hey all,
I hope someone can help as I've searched this issue here and on Reddit and found various answers to the problem but no solutions. My brother has a Pixel 5 and the "media storage app" hogged around 50 gb of storage (same issue as Oneplus, however Oneplus solved it with an update) and filled the device. In my searches I found 3 answers; it's the media on the phone just displayed incorrectly, it is a wrong reading from the phone, or it is duplicated media which doubles the used storage (makes more sense as you'll see below).
Another Issue was Android System taking only 2 gb of space when normally it should be around 11-12 (as on my Pixel 2 and Pixel 4a), but this was solved with a wipe.
Due to various software issues with the phone I convinced him to do a complete wipe and reflashing of the stock firmware through Android flash tool. Also knowing Whatsapp caused weird issues in the past (with his Pixel 1) I also made him delete all previous backups from the phone and Google drive and clean his media (deleted only a few hundred mb) then back up again. The backup was 27 gb (not around 50 as media storage showed).
We did the wipe and flashing and everything worked well. But when we started restoring the data again and Whatsapp started restoring media then the Media Storage app started growing again, I am yet to determine if it is duplicating or not, but I am 100% convinced that there is something wrong because I checked my Pixel 2 with Android 11 and my Pixel 4a with Android 12 beta and in both cases this app barely takes a few mb of storage, all the other "media" is properly organized as it should be in it's respective category, on his phone though its all in "other".
I am really out of solutions other than wiping Whatsapp completely clean without media, only backing up chats, but this doesn't guarantee that all the media won't duplicate or fill up in Media storage again. At this point I'm thinking of waiting until Android 12 official but it also doesn't guarantee anything since it's not clear where the issue is coming from exactly.
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Hi,
I'm having the same issue on my Pixel 5 on Android 12. Tried downgrading to 11, factory resetting, etc.
The media storage process keeps increasing while I add files to the memory - let's say that I create a 4GB video, the media storage process is going to be almost as big in the apps section. It decreases equally when I delete something.
As a consequence the space occupied is nearly doubled (media + apps).
It seems to happen especially with media files such as pictures, audio and video files.
I reported the issue in the android 12 beta program feedback. However it sounds like it's not an urgent matter since it's been there for many releases and it is not clear how many people are affected.
I hoped that the last beta release - which is supposedly a mature one - would correct this bug and nope.
You can check out this article from Android central for a similar subject named "I couldn't stop this Android bug from eating up all of my phone's storage" Link here
I regret that I'm not bringing a solution yet.
Ollie75 said:
Hi,
I'm having the same issue on my Pixel 5 on Android 12. Tried downgrading to 11, factory resetting, etc.
The media storage process keeps increasing while I add files to the memory - let's say that I create a 4GB video, the media storage process is going to be almost as big in the apps section. It decreases equally when I delete something.
As a consequence the space occupied is nearly doubled (media + apps).
It seems to happen especially with media files such as pictures, audio and video files.
I reported the issue in the android 12 beta program feedback. However it sounds like it's not an urgent matter since it's been there for many releases and it is not clear how many people are affected.
I hoped that the last beta release - which is supposedly a mature one - would correct this bug and nope.
You can check out this article from Android central for a similar subject named "I couldn't stop this Android bug from eating up all of my phone's storage" Link here
I regret that I'm not bringing a solution yet.
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Hey, the last beta update, march 22 solved the issue. I had submitted the bug in August 21 and the ticket status turned to "fixed" in February.
A bit long but I guess issues are sorted by priority. Still really happy with the outcome.
Maybe you can spread the word on threads you've checked out so people can try the last beta release or wait for the next stable one.
That's great to know we can rely on such a support from the beta team, props to them !
Ollie75 said:
Hey, the last beta update, march 22 solved the issue. I had submitted the bug in August 21 and the ticket status turned to "fixed" in February.
A bit long but I guess issues are sorted by priority. Still really happy with the outcome.
Maybe you can spread the word on threads you've checked out so people can try the last beta release or wait for the next stable one.
That's great to know we can rely on such a support from the beta team, props to them !
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Hi, I'm presently having this Media Storage expansion issue with Op 9RT. Just to be clear, as you said, the Media Storage issue is now solved in your Pixel 5, right? Asking it now because if Google can solve it, then there is a feint chance that someday OnePlus will also solve it!!!
jitd said:
Hi, I'm presently having this Media Storage expansion issue with Op 9RT. Just to be clear, as you said, the Media Storage issue is now solved in your Pixel 5, right? Asking it now because if Google can solve it, then there is a feint chance that someday OnePlus will also solve it!!!
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Hello, yes I confirm that the media storage problem has been solved for the Pixel 5 in the latest version, here is an article written about it after I contacted android central in April.
This pesky Android storage bug was finally fixed and we almost didn't know
"Ghost storage" that can't be freed up will no longer haunt users.
www.androidcentral.com
Hopefully it will be resolved for your OnePlus very soon.
Cheers
Ollie75 said:
Hello, yes I confirm that the media storage problem has been solved for the Pixel 5 in the latest version, here is an article written about it after I contacted android central in April.
This pesky Android storage bug was finally fixed and we almost didn't know
"Ghost storage" that can't be freed up will no longer haunt users.
www.androidcentral.com
Hopefully it will be resolved for your OnePlus very soon.
Cheers
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Nice!!! Pixel isn't officially sold in our country as yet, the few we have are actually unlocked devices from US and they are so damn expensive! So, I'm stuck with my 9RT for now....... Hopefully, OP resolves this, may be with Android 13!
jitd said:
Nice!!! Pixel isn't officially sold in our country as yet, the few we have are actually unlocked devices from US and they are so damn expensive! So, I'm stuck with my 9RT for now....... Hopefully, OP resolves this, may be with Android 13!
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You might be able to find one that's reasonably priced on Swappa. It's affiliated with XDA and is a reputable site. It's mostly peer to peer sales.
https://swappa.com/
xunholyx said:
You might be able to find one that's reasonably priced on Swappa. It's affiliated with XDA and is a reputable site. It's mostly peer to peer sales.
https://swappa.com/
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Thanks!!! Will look it up! But anything that comes from outside my country is a strict No for me as our Customs is notorious and they will tax me almost the same price of the handset if I import it!!!

Redmi 9 3/32 - Questions

Hello. I have a question regarding my phone that is constantly running out of storage space and have to use cleaner almost daily. I would like to be able to install more games and other apps but I can't do that due to low internal storage space. I bought a sd card (32 GB) in the hope of installing or moving apps to It. Unfortunately I can't do either. I moved all other files to it but it's not enough.My phone is not rooted and no free program I have tried successed (thought rooting could help). Do I have to buy a new phone to get possibility of using more amount of apps or is there another way? If I have to buy a new phone, recommend me something please. I would like to get a phone with a comparable CPU and GPU or maybe better, at least 4GB+ and 64GB of internal storage or more. It has to be a budget phone but upgrade should be viable.
Hello, I'd like to asked to if you guys also experience this:
Whenever I try to maxxed out the volume and play something whether its a video or music, the phone just reboots right after.
Idk what happened but before I noticed those kind of stuff to happen in my Redmi 9. I just previously fixed it from bootloop w/o recovery & w/o fastboot due to downgrading from MIUI 13.0.5 CN ROM to MIUI 11.0.4 GLOBAL ROM.
So I was wondering whether it was a software issue or hardware issue in this case the battery. Idk if someone had ever tried this but I've watched a similar problem got fixed in youtube w/ Redmi Note 9 instead
with soldering or reheating the fuse within the battery.
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Hello. I have a question regarding my phone that is constantly running out of storage space and have to use cleaner almost daily. I would like to be able to install more games and other apps but I can't do that due to low internal storage space. I bought a sd card (32 GB) in the hope of installing or moving apps to It. Unfortunately I can't do either. I moved all other files to it but it's not enough.My phone is not rooted and no free program I have tried successed (thought rooting could help). Do I have to buy a new phone to get possibility of using more amount of apps or is there another way? If I have to buy a new phone, recommend me something please. I would like to get a phone with a comparable CPU and GPU or maybe better, at least 4GB+ and 64GB of internal storage or more. It has to be a budget phone but upgrade should be viable.
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Before, Android can still do that transfering apps + associated data to the sd card iirc it was Jellybean. Lol
But right now you can still do that but i think you need some root access correct me if im wrong. Though that is still not advisable cause accessing those apps would be much more slower or rather laggy than installing your apps within the internal storage.
One way to not run out internal storage is to transfer all "passive/static" files like photos/music/videos to your sdcard. The ones that are left for your internal storage should be the apps only that is if you want to install more apps in your device. Also you can set where the files should be saved everytime you take photo or video or download files, and set them to sdcard.

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