Hey guys quick question
Me and my girlfriend both have the SGS but I noticed today that he screen has a weird yellow colour when compared to mine.
Like my blacks are black, where hers just seem off from mine even at low, medium and full brightness, power saving lcd thing off on both.
We are both running JPU.
Is her screen dying or is it faulty? if so should i contact samsung for a replacement model?
Thanks
Hi
I have an issue where my screen is much darker than those of friends of mine, both with brightness set to full on all phones or with auto brightness on. I didn't notice it at first but now that I did it bugs me like hell. Maybe its related.
Depending on country and service center it shouldn't be too much of an issue to get a replacement screen / device. It goes without saying you have to roll back from JPU to the original froyo for device.
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Running any custom kernel with colour fixes etc? I think some roms/kernels tweaked the settings
I think its possibly some variance in the manufacturing process. Mine has a blueish tint which i find quite annoying, but only appears when looking at it from the left hand side
Thanks for the responses guys, we are both running stock JPU roms but ive contacted samsung and they said they will have a look at it :/
Hi guys,
So somehow, (and I really have no idea how I even managed to do this) I went three months without noticing the horrendous black clipping on my Int. Note. Last night I was cursing YouTube's streaming and then realised something was up. After a quick look at the test PNG which I quickly discovered I'm unable to see 1, 2 and 3 which makes for a pretty ugly experience when watching darker videos.
So my question is this. Should I root and go ParanoidAndroid to try and alleviate my issue (I assume part of this process will include flashing a new kernel which is where the issue lies?) or is there a chance that Samsung will ship a new kernel with the imminent (we hope) JB update?
I'm no newbie to rooting and totally hacked my HTC Desire to within an inch of it's life (figuratively speaking, I never bricked it) and I'm always tinkering with an Advent Vega for fun. However, I'm a bit worn out by rooting and reading up on all the proper routes, new radios, kernel issues, bugs etc. I'd like a 'quiet' life with the Note where possible!
Do you think I'll 'get away' with rooting this time or is it going to be likely needed to fix this problem?
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Hi guys,
So somehow, (and I really have no idea how I even managed to do this) I went three months without noticing the horrendous black clipping on my Int. Note. Last night I was cursing YouTube's streaming and then realised something was up. After a quick look at the test PNG which I quickly discovered I'm unable to see 1, 2 and 3 which makes for a pretty ugly experience when watching darker videos.
So my question is this. Should I root and go ParanoidAndroid to try and alleviate my issue (I assume part of this process will include flashing a new kernel which is where the issue lies?) or is there a chance that Samsung will ship a new kernel with the imminent (we hope) JB update?
Do you think I'll 'get away' with rooting this time or is it going to be likely needed to fix this problem?
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My opinion:
Samsung correcting the Gamma table on the firmware, so dark colors appear really dark and not light gray or completly black is unlikely. They are following the strategy embraced by other manufacturers and just release a new model with a slightly better CPU and fixes for the bugs of the previous model.
xda-developers community releasing a ROM that is realy usable and fixes this: not likely either. A ROM that has no support for camera, HD recording, FM radio or S-Pen is not going to convince many people to switch.
I recently took my Note to Samsung technical service because the screen looked yellow (another known manufacturing defect), and they replaced the entire screen, but the new one shows the same black clipping problem.
Apps like filter your screen just lower the contrast so the blacks become more gray, but the darkest tone of gray the Note can show is still too bright, leading to anything below RGB (50,50,50) appearing almost the same tone of gray.
I have just moved to a phone by other company and compared it to the Galaxy Note:
Screen is IPS, viewing angle is not so ample as in an AMOLED but at least white appears white, not light brown
The gammatest.png image is displayed correctly, top row of squares going from black to very dark gray.
Brightness on the Note is limited to avoid burning the AMOLED too fast, and even so, I had burn-in on the top of the screen after only 3 months
My new phone has 1 GB RAM, and 980 MB are listed, not 808, and I have 400 used normally, with 580 free. Note had usually 700 MB used
My new phone seems to spend more time on deep sleep, no Samsung apps or services working on the background
Hello guys,
i'm new to the Galaxy Note and the Forum, start by thanking everyone for the great job you have done and are doing.
- Before:
I bought a Galaxy Note, I am fine and i love him like a son (maybe because I have no children).
There was the original version of Android 4.1.2 firmware N7000XXLSA with NO brand.
I flashed from the original recovery kernel that is here (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191) to be precise "Philz-cwm6-XXLSA-DBT-v3.99" (I do not know why I chose this among others, perhaps because it reminded me of the original LSA final XXLSA and makes me wonder: the "Philz-cwm6-ZCLS8-CHN-v3.99" is newer than the one I flashed?).
From ClockworkModRecovery I installed, after fullwipe, the last Nightly of CyanogenMod 10.1 and the gapps (as I did on other phones like Nexus S and Nexus 7 and it is always gone smoothly).
- The problem:
Everything works fine (apart from a phenomenon of Battery Drain, but I have to recalibrate it and recharging from consuming it all off for at least 4 hours and then delete the stats etc ...), but there is one thing wrong: the monitor.
The icons on the desktop can be seen very well, ultra bright and the text looks really HD! (I come from Nexus S and I also have the Nexus 7, bright colors and blacks amazing!) But the background, some photos appear, or the shades of black phone menus you see badly.
If I use MXPlayer to see a video all blacks are pixelated, gradients are sheared.
As if it was in safe mode, type windows xp in safe mode that NOT loaded the video card drivers.
I read around on the issue and there was talk of color banding, 16bit software compared to 24bit monitors hardware, but in essence what?
Depends on the kernel?
I have to go in customer care to replace the monitor (which also occasionally changes almost imperceptibly color, for example while navigating, then on the white background of the pages, from white light turns yellow, then brown, and so on).
What do you recommend? Does anyone have or have had the same problem?
UPDATE:
This morning I tried the phone around, the street outside and the problem seems to disappear.
I set auto brightness. So maybe with strong light, increasing the brightness of the blacks are softened better.
Now I'm recovering from the last original software Samsung Kies, the much-hyped premium suite, see what happens and if the problem remains.
Thanks in advance to all.
I recommend go back to a non leak firmware which is not buggy like this one. Then see if you can reproduce. Remember those JB roms are buggy leaks. Best to use the kernel phills made explicitly for the rom version you are running.
Regarding colour changes this usually is due to powersaving apps or settings. Remove and/or disable those. especially the one in the stock browser. This a known old issue not necessary caused by hardware.
battery drain issues van best be analysed according to ahalfords sticky on wakelocks.
Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
Never understood how people managed with burn ins. Well, stop watching a static picture with 100% brightness for 5hrs in a row is a good start.
i have owned more than a dozen samsung products with amoled screens, never had burn in on one of them. I always keep the screen very bright because my eyesight isnt that great. the one lg amoled phone i owned had terrible screen burn
The factors involved are: heat (ext), brightness (curr), uneven degradation rate of each color (rgb), persistent elements, and age (of panel). If half a screen is black and the other is blue, at max brightness, the blue subpixels are under the most stress. Their decay rate will overshadow the resting blue lights - plus that of green and red.
5yrs from now you're going to look at an all white image. Half of it will look awful.
Thanks guys, but not really helping, are you?
Fall asleep once with your phone under your face and you'll have a burn in your amoled screen. Probably many other ways.
This is a common issue that most people don't even notice.
I get how it happens. I'm looking for ways to prevent it.
Setting a screen timeout is helpful
Had every Samsung for years and never had this, so I've no idea.
Maybe some people don't have a screen timeout and fall asleep sometimes dunno
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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I don't remember that. I know they had it on their Plasma TVs. I thought the Pixel phones with OLED screens also had it but don't know about Samsung phones. I do think that 99.9% of people that use a phone normally will never experience burn-in for the time they own the phone.
Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
No way am I turning stuff off to avoid something I've never seen
900 quid to have to suffer immersive mode utter lols, if I have to did that I'll sell it
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I also honestly don't know what you're talking about. I've had s3, s5, s7, s9 and now to s10. Never had anything of the sort and since s7 I've been using AOD. Nothing happend. For the love of me I can't imagine how you may have had anything wrong with the display....
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Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
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Exactly, it's always the status bar. I think there is no immersive mode on s10+ yet, but I removed all the icons.
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Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
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THANK YOU
I'm pretty sure many think they never had a burn in on their precious amoled screen, but they actually had.
Well they probably aren't looking for it that closely
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Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
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Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
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Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
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You can set the schedule for the time for the AOD is active and either use the AOD auto brightness option or set the brightness lower, if that helps you feel more confident with it. The movement should help avoid issues.
FWIW, I used AOD with my previous phone without any issue and I anticipate the same with this one.
My burn in issue was only with the games & YouTube as noted.
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This is my main issue with AMOLED screens. They look nice but they wear out. The nature of Android means they will wear out unevenly which is why people see burn in. The wearing out of your screen is cumulative. Meaning that it isn't like an old CRT TV where it would take weeks of a static image to burn in but just showing the same image over time day in and day out. The only way to prevent it is to use the entire screen with moving images, like full screen movies, so that the panel wears evenly.
The status bar and navigation bar tend to be on the screen all the time those images will burn in first. Dark mode can also cause issues because if the area is dark it isn't being used and if it isn't being used it will look brighter than other areas that were used more frequently. The s10 has a full screen mode option for some apps. Some apps like Netflix will show the full screen movie even around the camera cutout and that is ideal. Youtube will also allow you to zoom in and show the video around the camera. cutout Chrome and the Samsung browser keep the status bar but it will change colors based on the site and if the bar is white it will invert the status icons which will help keep the panel wearing evenly. I have the dolphin browser which runs in full screen but the top portion of the panel is not used so that is less than ideal.
Auto brightness can be used but in the bright sun that panel is wearing much faster. The screen time out should be set to 15 seconds. These panels are designed to look great but not be super durable and in many cases that's what Samsung wants. They benefit when you have to buy a new device. It's sad to say but its business.