Tried to change battery and unfortunately I broke the flex cable to the side button. Is there a way to turn on the device?
hi, i guess the answer is too late, isnt it? did you change the flex cable?
in general, a switch just does a short circuit. as you can see in the schematic, you gotta short circuit pin 5 and a ground pin of J2701. (i did not test it with my device but in theory it should work. i am not responsible for a damaged device so be careful ;P)
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Hey
A friend of mine called me yesterday if I wanna buy his broken X1 (it felt down :/) and repair it, because I'm the man for such jobs
Do you think it's only the LCD-flex-cable or another repairable damage?
I think I can get that device for 2-3 days and then decide if I buy it...
Some ideas? Is there any chance to repair it?
Thanx, Carbon
yes, probably even a loose connector on flex cable
Hello,
I am quite certain it is an easy problem, i have seen many x1 phones with just a minor loose connector which causes the screen not to respond.
The best way to check it if it really is just the screen/flex cable is to turn it on, and check if the side lights flash in all colors.
If that works the phone should work normally. (even if the screen doesn't work)
After opening:
Re-insert all the cables in the screen flex cable and check if it works..
if that doesn't work then replace the flex cable.
If the screen works:
Then check out the screen if it has any crack's or black spots.
In that case you will have to replace the screen/touch screen also.
Generally, if there is no physical damage to the LCD itself and the phone buzzes on startup with all appropriate sounds - replace the flex. Flashing lights are attached to the flex and are positioned ABOVE the LCD on flex connection, therefore will not light up if the flex is damaged and neither will the upper keypad and other less obvious things.
The flex replacement is not minor, just be aware of that. Bad falls are also the reason for main PCB damage, in which case there will be nothing you can do.
Thank you so much
It was a "very short" call by this friend, but when i take the device, I want a precise report what happened...
atm I don't now if the sidelights show reaction, but I will report
I'm afraid of a real PCB damage...
In flex problem side lights will not light up, as i mentioned, they are positioned above the Lcd connection, so if the main flex connection ribbon is damaged, as is most often the case, all of the upper level functions will be gone, but you will get a startup with buzz and sounds present.
I got it
And LEDs are flashing and you can start it complete normally, but you see nothing... i'm going to open it and check the Flexcable
Carbon386 said:
I got it
And LEDs are flashing and you can start it complete normally, but you see nothing... i'm going to open it and check the Flexcable
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Best of luck.
So...I took apart my Nexus One to clean the dust from under the screen. I've done this before, but it back together and it worked. But this time, after putting it back together it wont power on. I sometimes get a vibrate after pressing the power button. One question though. This time I noticed that one end of the coax cable on the left of the phone is broken and there is no plug on it. Would this be the problem? I don't think it should though since I'm guessing it connects the GPS antenna to the rest, and I dont use GPS on my phone. Any help would be good.
EDIT: I think I didnt connect the LCD good enough.
The co ax cable must be connected to the logic board. If it won't click in connect it then secure in place with a small piece of tape.
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The co ax cable must be connected to the logic board. If it won't click in connect it then secure in place with a small piece of tape.
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As I said, the top plug of the coax has been ripped off.
Do you know if that's the problem?
Again, when I push the button it vibrates like it usually does on boot, but doesn't show anything on screen.
I pulled out the board again, trying to find the problem.
EDIT!!!! I just noticed on the LCD ribbon cable there are a few bent pins. I think that will be my problem. I'll get it back together in like 15 minutes and report back.
EDIT 2!!!! So yea...two of the pins came off, and are way to small to find. Guess I need to order a new LCD.
Crap, new LCDs are $60+
Hey guys,
The USB port of my HD2 broke off and I was forced to replace the motherboard. When I assembled the HD2 again, I could immediately see that there was something wrong with my screen. The screen couldn't display full color (only bright red/orange/white/dark green/cyan accents). Also, the 'hang-up button isn't responding anymore after I replaced the motherboard (and flexcable).
What happened? Is there something wrong with the lcd display or did something go wrong when I (dis)assembled the phone? I took the motherboard and the flexcable from another HD2 that had a broken display.
Thanks in advance.
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Hey guys,
The USB port of my HD2 broke off and I was forced to replace the motherboard. When I assembled the HD2 again, I could immediately see that there was something wrong with my screen. The screen couldn't display full color (only bright red/orange/white/dark green/cyan accents). Also, the 'hang-up button isn't responding anymore after I replaced the motherboard (and flexcable).
What happened? Is there something wrong with the lcd display or did something go wrong when I (dis)assembled the phone? I took the motherboard and the flexcable from another HD2 that had a broken display.
Thanks in advance.
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So you completely voided your warranty through HTC and tried to fix the device yourself, then screwed it up. I'd still say send it to HTC and ask for a repair. I don't know if they'll do it or not, unless you used official parts. I know they do out-of-warranty repairs, but they'll charge you.....
Yep you screwed up the repair, those ribbon cables need a delicate touch & any handfisted moment ends up with what you have got now ...
Another careful strip & inspection of all ribbon connectors is needed ...
I bought it as a second-hand phone. The guy didn't give me a reseat and the HD2 was flashed a WP7 ROM.
For the button problem, how are you turning your phone on without that button? do you hear/feel it click when you press it? If not its just misaligned.the buttons are on a flex ribbon cable with two holes on each side. it fits on the plastic middle frame of the phone which has two small spikes coming out of it... it has to be perfectly placed for your buttons to actually click..
if the flex ribbon is broken however you can buy one off ebay for arround 10$ any will do, mine is not original works fine..
for the screen you could have messed up the lcd, did you separate from the glass-digitizer? if you did you probably screwed it up.. its not a easy thing to do.. also was not necessary for your repairs
the connection to the motherboard might not be all the in and clipped which might cause your problem... (being that two of the little pins provide voltage and ground while all the others provide data information if one of those pins is not in all the way a piece of data might not be displaying for example a color. Never seen that happen its theoretically possible thou)
well I have only opened my phone 3 times and dont claim to be a expert.. but this is my take on it... Good luck!
@pablow Thanks for the detailed response.
The HD2 is only turned on, after I place the battery. Otherwhise it won't start.
I hear a click on the (broken) 'off' button, everytime I press it. I also noticed that the inside of not all of the 'spikes' are empty. I can see a bit of the flexcable in the spike of the broken 'off' button. The spike of the (working) 'call' button is empty.
I think that the flexcable hasn't been connected securely to the motherboard. I'll try connecting everything again tonight.
not that it makes much difference but HTC wouldn't of fixed it through warranty because of usb damage anyway
I thought so, thanks for the heads-up anyways.
[Solved] Display is fixed
Update:
I disassembled the HD2 and reconnected everything (from coax to flexcable). Fortunately it worked! The display is how it should be.
I have another problem now. All of the buttons don't work now, exept for the dial button. Do these buttons break so fast? It's annoying as fuark, because I have to disassemble it another time in the future to fix the buttons.
I also couldn't re-attach the volume control tab when assembling the HD2.
Hi
I tried to replace my battery and after assemble it back i only get a black display when turning my m7 on.
I broke this little plastic thing from the display cable off (look in attachment)
Is this thing essential for a working display? (i thought i can fix it with a drop of glue)
Should the display work when the backcover is off the device? Because there are some connectors on the backcover....
cheers
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Hi
I tried to replace my battery and after assemble it back i only get a black display when turning my m7 on.
I broke this little plastic thing from the display cable off (look in attachment)
Is this thing essential for a working display? (i thought i can fix it with a drop of glue)
Should the display work when the backcover is off the device? Because there are some connectors on the backcover....
cheers
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Shouldn't have done that, I think you accidentally broke something. I'd send it to a HTC service center. But that's gonna cost you probably.
nah, official repair isn't worth it. The phone is more than 2 years old...
and yes i think i broke something... thats why im asking
You're gonna have to be good with a solder and a couple of tiny wires if you want to revive your phone.
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Hi
I tried to replace my battery and after assemble it back i only get a black display when turning my m7 on.
I broke this little plastic thing from the display cable off (look in attachment)
Is this thing essential for a working display? (i thought i can fix it with a drop of glue)
Should the display work when the backcover is off the device? Because there are some connectors on the backcover....
cheers
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You definitively need this clip to be intact so the flex cable sits firmly in place otherwise you'll have bad contact between the cable and the pins.
If you don't want to send to HTC for repair you'll need at least to send it to your local electronic repair shop so someone skilled with the proper soldering tool (not the standard iron you have at home) can replace the connector. BTW some of these clips must be lifted from the cable side and some other from the opposite side of the cable, so next time use tweezers and apply very light force on each side you'll find from what side it must be lifted.
LCD should work fine with the back cover removed, afaik. Connectors in the back cover are often for antennas but I wouldn't recommend to run the phone with antennas disconnected to avoid damaging the radio chips (reflected power).
If you are from the US, you can easily find this connector on ebay for about 10$. I'm sure it won't be that much expensive to repair if you bring the new connector and the phone already disassembled to your local repair shop.
Btw are you sure its only the LCD? When trying to boot the phone can you here the HTC theme or does it vibrate? Recognized by your computer when connected with usb?
thx for your response
I found an replacement part on ebay but first i have to look for someone who can solder this for me.
When i try to turn it on it only vibrates without a htc theme sound and there is no display reaction.
The other thing i mentioned is that the phone gets very hot in the middle (should be the cpu) where i dont know if it should get that hot.
I have to try the pc connetion again and let you know asap.
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thx for your response
I found an replacement part on ebay but first i have to look for someone who can solder this for me.
When i try to turn it on it only vibrates without a htc theme sound and there is no display reaction.
The other thing i mentioned is that the phone gets very hot in the middle (should be the cpu) where i dont know if it should get that hot.
I have to try the pc connetion again and let you know asap.
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I'm not really worried about the absence of HTC sound when booting, if your phone is on silent / vibration mode, it will only vibrate when booting. If your computer does detect it once booted, then I guess the broken connector clip is the problem.
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Here is a video about the connector replacement, it doesn't look that hard to replace but wouldn't recommend to do it yourself if you never soldered electronics before. Soldering isn't that hard but you need some practices and knowledge to make good joints. I don't think your phone motherboard is a good candidate to practices yourself if you never did it before. You'll also need a really tiny tip for your iron, probably a type "L", 50/50 solder + some flux. Flux must be cleaned after use to avoid corrosion. The most difficult when soldering on motherboard, imo, is to find the right temperature. If your iron is to hot, you'll damage your connector. If its not hot enough, solder will take more time to liquefy and some heat will be absorbed by surrounding components which can cause irreversible damage.
Easy fix mate
You don't need to replace the connector, I've done this before, it is just the connector clip that has come off and it goes back on reasonably easily.
You will need a good magnifier.
You will need a good light source.
The phone held securely on its side with the socket pointing up.
Some masking tape on the loose part because it WILL go "ping" into the distance if you don't and you will not find it.
Look at the other connectors to see the proper orientation for the part, mark it with a permanent marker on top and at one end.
The insertion looks difficult, it isn't too bad, keep the part nice and straight and the motion is kind of like clicking it down on the ribbon.
Forget replacing the connector, that is 100 times harder.
If you do lose the loose part I have one or two laying around.
Good luck.
Every time I try to reinstall logic board on n910t the S pen does not work.
There is a flex cable in the back for the S pen that is suposed to be connected to a socket in the back of board but I'm having a hard time trying to do that. It's kinda of tricky.
Does anybody have a way or method to do that? I don't want remove the display just to connect that flex cable.
Thanks
Does it plug I'm somewhere and you have to clamp it? These are small components so you might not recognize everything immediately.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.
Not sure I quite understand. Sorry
Is the cable a ribbon cable and do you see a place to hold it and snap down probably a black or green piece of plastic on top of it or perhaps a slot that you force it in to? Upload a picture or two so maybe we can help. Not familiar with innards.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.
ag2727 said:
Every time I try to reinstall logic board on n910t the S pen does not work.
There is a flex cable in the back for the S pen that is suposed to be connected to a socket in the back of board but I'm having a hard time trying to do that. It's kinda of tricky.
Does anybody have a way or method to do that? I don't want remove the display just to connect that flex cable.
Thanks
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I used a straightened out bobby pin to push the ribbon connector up as I placed the motherboard into the midframe. You'll need some light to see in there and it's kinda tricky but you"ll know when it connects . Also you can connect battery and test before you go any further to avoid a lot of work.