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I have just installed Opera Mini 4 Beta 2 on my Tilt.
I'd like to use it as my default browser, however it's annoying that every time I open it I get asked if I really want to allow it to connect because it is an "untrusted application".
I have an unlimited data plan, so I want to change it to be a "trusted" application so I don't have to tell the Tilt it is ok to use every time I open it.
Sorry for the newb question. I didn't see a lot on a search.
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332087&page=2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332087&page=2
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Hey, that's perfect! Thanks, you rock!
Ok, after trying everything in that thread I am still having some issues and it appears that there is at least one other guy that can't get it to work on the Kaiser (I have the Tilt).
I've tried hex editing the selector.utf file myself as well as downloading the fix.exe file that is provided in that link and neither one works.
I have the Opera Mini browser mapped to the PIE button just fine, but the problem is getting the "untrusted" thing to go away.
When I change the selector.utf file so that the line reading "domain=untrusted," is now "domain=tckmax ," when I press the PIE button I get an error that says:
"Could not find suite s0_"
However, I can see that the s0_suite.utf file is in my appdb directory.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
ETA: I've seen some mention "cloudyfa's" jbed will work. Where can I get that jbed? Search turned up nothing.
Anyone?
I haven't been able to get this to work. I think it has to do with the jbed that I am running (stock jbed that came with the tilt).
The only info I could seem to find was that some guy named cloudyfa has a custom jbed that will get rid of the "untrusted" warning, but searching hasn't come up with anything on cloudyfa.
Can anyone help point me to a jbed that will work?
Thanks!
have you tried kaiser tweak, there is a function to disable warning.
kms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1483665&postcount=24
VTX said:
Ok, after trying everything in that thread I am still having some issues and it appears that there is at least one other guy that can't get it to work on the Kaiser (I have the Tilt).
I've tried hex editing the selector.utf file myself as well as downloading the fix.exe file that is provided in that link and neither one works.
I have the Opera Mini browser mapped to the PIE button just fine, but the problem is getting the "untrusted" thing to go away.
When I change the selector.utf file so that the line reading "domain=untrusted," is now "domain=tckmax ," when I press the PIE button I get an error that says:
"Could not find suite s0_"
However, I can see that the s0_suite.utf file is in my appdb directory.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
ETA: I've seen some mention "cloudyfa's" jbed will work. Where can I get that jbed? Search turned up nothing.
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OK, you can't just replace "untrusted" with "tckmax". you have to pad it with spaces to the same length. I.e. replace "untrusted" with "tckmax ". That will eliminate the "cannot find S0_..." issue. However, I do that, and I still get the nag messages.
OK, the tckmax fix seems not to work for my stock java Esmertec JBed that was on the Kaiser ROM. I installed this Cloudyfa version (which has a different/more recent build date) and voila, it works now without the nag...Thanks for the link to the latest version!
Can you copy your quick launch icon for me? I just cant seem to get the .ink to work. I dont know is it that TC cant make it right, i read it somewhere.
Well, you can't just copy someone's because it depends on what other java apps you have installed on your phone.
but the easiest way to create one is to simply use a Notepad to create simple text file. And it should only contain the following text:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s1_
BUT you may need to edit it and replace the S1_ with something else. if this is the only Java app you have installed and used, then most likely you want to use S0_ in place of S1_.
Name it Opera.lnk (or whatever you want it to say).
And then copy it to your "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" folder.
Thanks to you guys who figured this out. This one of the little annoying things
that ticked me off. I'd have to first: click on the java shortcut, then click on opera mini, then click on yes to permissions, then yes to connect.
Now I just click on the Opera mini shortcut and BOOM! Up and going, plus I have the IE button reassigned as Opera Mini
THANKS!
jomo25 said:
Well, you can't just copy someone's because it depends on what other java apps you have installed on your phone.
but the easiest way to create one is to simply use a Notepad to create simple text file. And it should only contain the following text:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s1_
BUT you may need to edit it and replace the S1_ with something else. if this is the only Java app you have installed and used, then most likely you want to use S0_ in place of S1_.
Name it Opera.lnk (or whatever you want it to say).
And then copy it to your "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" folder.
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Tried that, only thing i get is a non working .ink file. Closest ive got on creating the working quick launcher is with TC. It just opens the java applet and says could not find suite s0_.
I think the easiest way would be if some one is kind enough to copy me the working file. I have the Cloudyfa's EsmertecJbed intalled and it is s0_ where it needs to point to. I got rid of the nag, only thing that isnt working is the straight shortcut to open Opera.
i have'nt tried opera, but has anyone tried installed the kaiser tweak, there is a function to disable security warnings.
kms
Attached for S0_. Had to ZIP it so can upload.
Never used KaiserTweak. But I did get the nags to stop via my actions above. Not sure if KT would eliminate it.
Thanks, that one worked straight away. Strange, but it must be that what a read in some post about Total Commander not doing the shortcut right.
Any ideas is it possible to get a quick launch button straight to Opera on TrayLnch?
Anyone? Is it possible?
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i have'nt tried opera, but has anyone tried installed the kaiser tweak, there is a function to disable security warnings.
kms
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BTW, Kaiser Tweak doesn't suppress these security messages. Its a different kind of msg it suppresses.
did anyone ever get this to work for mini 4.2? I've been battling it for a couple hours now with no success. I've tried editing the utf file, but I always still get the untrusted app and network access prompt. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Has anyone managed to successfully run any apps that needs 'embedded Visual Runtime Basic'
I downloaded it from MS and loaded it to the tytn II and then loaded the app which appears to install successfully, but when i launch the app i just get 2 loading (spinning) icons then nothing.
the app i want to run is GPS DIS pro 3.4 which needs VB runtime files to work.
I had the same problem on the HTC P300i also.
Any tips/help is appreciated.
I have a evb program on my tilt that I wrote a couple years back and it runs just fine. Im not familiar with that program so I cant really help you with it but you can definately run evb programs on the tilt/kaiser/tytn II.
Thanks Ren13B,
which VB Runtime file did you load? (link please)
I tried another app that needed VB Runtime also but that wouldnt load also.
ps. are you driving an R100?
Sorry I dont remember where I got it. I just did a google search for it because the link they give you if you dont have it installed is now dead. Doing a quick search now pulls up http://msdn.microsoft.com/mobility/windowsmobile/downloads/evb.aspx which should provide you with what you need. That page states the runtime is no longer supported on anything past Pocket PC 2003 so that might be your problem.
I drive a RX-8 right now. Renesis13B
Thanks Ren13B,
That is the link that i used already. I had some other posts that indicated that it should be installed on the device and not the storage card, which i have done.
Some others like yourself have indicated that they have gotten it running in WM6, but none of my 2 apps being GPS DIS pro3.4 and Geoapps GPS Stealth 1.00.
Could you try them and let me know if you can get them to run?
Cheers!
PS. Ever thought about dropping in a 20B???
Sure, I can try them. Can you post links for them or pm the links if they arent free apps?
I had a 2nd gen RX7 that I wanted to put a 20B in but it was too costly at the time. Im keeping the RX8 relatively stock for now. Cant afford to have car troubles these days.
Nevermind..i found a trial version. Trying it now.
Doesnt run on mine either. I get the same two spinning icons and nothing else happens.
try a soft reset,
when i did that i got a tad further. (to the point where it tells me that i have used X number of 15 tries.
Thanks
Hi Team,
Opera mini 4 has made my mobile surfing heaven. Good bye PIE! Thank god.
However. I have two queries.
1. Anyone know how to get shot of the annoying "Allo Net Access" Prompt every time i run the midlet? In my Java prog under security I only get "Ask" and "Never Allow". Need an "Always Allow" option, but it's just not there.
2. How the hell do i directly link to a java program, without having to first boot up java, then choose the app? I know this will be possible, but haven't fathomed it yet. I'm wanting to stuff the link under the internet button so I can be rid of PIE for ever.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Matt
OM4 is a java midlet - you must access it through Java. You can make shortcut on Today screen.
As to the "allowing network access", after you have opened program, go to Bookmarks and then Opera Mini - you will find options there. But basically, you will always have to check allow access to network.
Both can be done.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
EDIT: I attached the files discussed in case you don't want to register.
Yes, both can be done. Here are the simplest instructions I put together a while back.
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1270419
And yes, grab the fix.zip in the last post above and you can skip step 1 in my instructions in the linked thread...
The issue with the direct link works fine. But I have already tried to modifiy the selector.utf in both ways, by the fix and by using an hex editor.
But I still get this damn access questions.
I use a TyTNII with shipped HTC Rom with Opera Mini 4 final installed.
The description in your posted link is for OM beta2. May it be that modifications
are not suitable anymore for version 4 final?
A solution would be great.
Hans Olo
Edit: Ok, seen in the link of the last post from jomo25 that the version of jbed is the cause. Thanx for the info.
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This is all perrrrfect. Is there a way to change the Icon?
if you want to make a shortcut to launch Opera Mini directly:
Use a Notepad on your PC to create simple text file. And it should only contain the following text:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s1_
BUT you may need to edit it and replace the S1_ with something else. if this is the only Java app you have installed and used, then most likely you want to use S0_ in place of S1_.
Name it Opera.lnk (or whatever you want it to say).
And then copy it to your "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" folder.
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I can launch Opera Mini in Esmertec Jbed with no problem.
I can see the Opera Mini with the same logo as Esmertec Jbed in Programs (I change the name to Opera Mini.lnk),
but I just can't launch Opera Mini by tapping it.
I tried both s0_ and s1_ but get the same result, it says:
Could not find suite s1_
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Could not find suite s0_
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It might be s2, s3 or more - the s# changes based on how many other java apps you previously installed. Even if you had one and deleted it, it still counts as one. So try some more numbers.
Also Hans- make sure you are using JBED and it should work.
xTyTN said:
I can launch Opera Mini in Esmertec Jbed with no problem.
I can see the Opera Mini with the same logo as Esmertec Jbed in Programs (I change the name to Opera Mini.lnk),
but I just can't launch Opera Mini by tapping it.
I tried both s0_ and s1_ but get the same result, it says:
or
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I had that same problem yesterday. I tried putting the s1_ in double quotes.
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run "s1_"
Once I did that it finally worked for me.
enigmaneo said:
I had that same problem yesterday. I tried putting the s1_ in double quotes.
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run "s1_"
Once I did that it finally worked for me.
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Thanks enigmaneo, it works for me, too
Also make sure you ALWAYS check out the Wiki - I've explained all these questions in my Opera Mini- and MIDlet-related tutorials & articles (see for example http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The (Java) MIDlet Bible and http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...n use Opera Mini as the system-level browser! - make sure you follow the links from the latter)
Thanks for this info... took me to "s7" until it worked. Thought I was doing something wrong...
UPDATE (11/30/2007): The link association problem has been fixed for WM6 in the meantime (see my last article on the association). This means you can already have the system invoke Opera Mini when you click a link in an e-mail / in any document.
Note that there are still newer and newer versions and optimizations (even faster and faster versions of the invoker script to minimize waiting for Opera Mini to be invoked) published in the Comments section of my related blog post; that is, make sure you also follow it.
And, again, now that you can easily invoke it from any other application (including the most important Messaging) by just clicking any link, Opera Mini HAS become a REAL alternative to all the other, mostly commercial alternatives on Windows Mobile. Make sure you give Opera Mini a try: you may fall in love with it. It’s really powerful. It’s plain great –(most of the times) much faster and cleaner than anything else.
Menneisyys said:
And, again, now that you can easily invoke it from any other application (including the most important Messaging) by just clicking any link, Opera Mini HAS become a REAL alternative to all the other, mostly commercial alternatives on Windows Mobile. Make sure you give Opera Mini a try: you may fall in love with it. It’s really powerful. It’s plain great –(most of the times) much faster and cleaner than anything else.
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I couldn't agree more. This little fix with turning off the notification to accept the session has made it a lot more usable to me. The browser is awesome and while it can be slow sometimes due to formatting the page, etc., I wouldn't use anything else. PIE simply falls flat in comparison.
I just really dig the screen scrolling with my fingernail (screen protector on there of course).
I did managed to get the shortcut to work but for some reason i just can't get the notification removed. I've downloaded the fix, patched the "Selector" file, replaced it in the phone but it still won't work & yes i did download the JBED from the link given...still no luck. Anything i may have missed out?
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I did managed to get the shortcut to work but for some reason i just can't get the notification removed. I've downloaded the fix, patched the "Selector" file, replaced it in the phone but it still won't work & yes i did download the JBED from the link given...still no luck. Anything i may have missed out?
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You, then, can just use the hack described at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1666254&postcount=6 - it'll work. Also make sure you read the entire thread.
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I even copied the text from the post and I have gone through 0-8. When I tap the opera icon it opens the text file. I have even tried it with and without the extra quotation marks.
What am I doing wrong?
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I don't know what I am doing wrong. I even copied the text from the post and I have gone through 0-8. When I tap the opera icon it opens the text file. I have even tried it with and without the extra quotation marks.
What am I doing wrong?
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Did you also try the hacked JAR file I linked to? It WILL work if you deploy it locally and manually set the Blanket model.
Jar file
Can you post the link? I can't seem to find it
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Can you post the link? I can't seem to find it
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http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/opera-mini-4.0.9751-advanced-int-SIGNED.jar
First, I really have done extensive searching and can't seem to find the answer:
I have ATT Tilt with new ROM (1.62). Is there any Java update/midlet that will allow the Gmail app to be downloaded and work on my device? As it stands now, it won't even download from the Gmail site.
Thanks in advance.
Java
I would recomend esmertec java.
You can find it out there, it is not free ware, but since your phone probably came with it like my tilt from att, so licenseing shouldn't be an issue.
Threre are wonderful people out there that have taken apart roms and have all applications that came on the stock rom.
look here and good hunting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317533&highlight=java
servergod said:
I would recomend esmertec java.
You can find it out there, it is not free ware, but since your phone probably came with it like my tilt from att, so licenseing shouldn't be an issue.
Threre are wonderful people out there that have taken apart roms and have all applications that came on the stock rom.
look here and good hunting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317533&highlight=java
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I think I have read every thread in this forum having to do with trying to get the Gmail Java app to work. There are folks that say "Gmail works for me", but do not give any details as to their device, version, or other particulars. I have yet to run across a thread that succinctly explains how to get the Kaiser/Tilt to properly use the Gmail Java app. This is surprising to me because I am utterly impressed by many of the people on this forum and what they do. Much of it is beyond me, but I do enjoy the forum very much and have learned quite a bit from it.
Gmail being as popular as it is, I would have believed that one of our "geniuses" would have sorted it out by now.
Maybe soon???
daesdaemar said:
I think I have read every thread in this forum having to do with trying to get the Gmail Java app to work. There are folks that say "Gmail works for me", but do not give any details as to their device, version, or other particulars. I have yet to run across a thread that succinctly explains how to get the Kaiser/Tilt to properly use the Gmail Java app. This is surprising to me because I am utterly impressed by many of the people on this forum and what they do. Much of it is beyond me, but I do enjoy the forum very much and have learned quite a bit from it.
Gmail being as popular as it is, I would have believed that one of our "geniuses" would have sorted it out by now.
Maybe soon???
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Last time I checked, GMail is not working on WinMo phones at this time, Google even has it as a known issue and has not been able to fix it
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=52870
hope this helps
Why don't you just check your GMAIL through the Mail application included in the ROM? Or am I missing something?
doctajay said:
Why don't you just check your GMAIL through the Mail application included in the ROM? Or am I missing something?
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The Gmail Java app is supposed to be really great...
I use it and its very simple...install the Java on your device..after that, install the gmail app, it will automatically pair up with the java manager and your set to go...its great, and smooth!
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I use it and its very simple...install the Java on your device..after that, install the gmail app, it will automatically pair up with the java manager and your set to go...its great, and smooth!
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Please, which Java are you using? Do you have a link?
How about including some links to the app to make this post? Please update the first post with the download link and findings to make this post more usable to all.
Thanks!
I just use the regular mail application... but I assume he is talking about this GMail Application go to the link with your phone.
Im about to check it out and see if its any better....
Going to http://gmail.com/app installs fine if you have Esmertec Java 20070802 installed. If you don't have this, you can search for CloudyFa esmertec jbed to download the cab.
*Edit* spoke too soon. Gives me an error message about this program requiring a data connection when trying to refresh or download mail. I'll play with it some more...
me too
mine was doing that yesterday... uninstalled then went back to www.gmail.com/app (on my phone) reinstalled and now everything seems to be copacetic
Have you tried this ive been using this with gmail and aol
http://www.seven.com/products/consumers/index.html
just use midlet manager
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Emulators/Inetent-Java-MIDlet-Manager-38908.shtml
never tried it on that one, but im sure it will work
IBM
hello guys, i looked into this thread earlier and tried to get it to work on my device. esmertic java didn't work for me, so i got the IBM Java Virtual Machine, i installed that first then went to http:\\gmail.com\app and downloaded the app and now it works perfectly and the app is really great. you can dowload the IBM jvm from here.
I think there's something wrong with the .jad file that we get from gmail.com/app. But you can get the actual jar file at http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.0.0/en/gmail-g.jar
Download it, transfer to sdcard and run it (install), make sure you have java installed... i'm using cloudyfa_esmertec_jbed... it work great...
i have v1.5 jar link, but eventually lost it... still searching through google.. or perhaps somebody could help...
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I think there's something wrong with the .jad file that we get from gmail.com/app. But you can get the actual jar file at http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.0.0/en/gmail-g.jar
Download it, transfer to sdcard and run it (install), make sure you have java installed... i'm using cloudyfa_esmertec_jbed... it work great...
i have v1.5 jar link, but eventually lost it... still searching through google.. or perhaps somebody could help...
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That direct link is a good find. But, you're right, they are up to version 1.5 now. Would be great to find that link.
Here it is: http://gmail.com/app/v1.5.0/L1/gmail-g.jar
And here is an older version: http://gmail.com/app/v1.1.1/L1/gmail-g.jar
master athlon said:
hello guys, i looked into this thread earlier and tried to get it to work on my device. esmertic java didn't work for me, so i got the IBM Java Virtual Machine, i installed that first then went to http:\\gmail.com\app and downloaded the app and now it works perfectly and the app is really great. you can dowload the IBM jvm from here.
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I received this email from IBM:
Thank you for your interest in the "Websphere Everyplace Micro Environment" (WEME), the IBM Java ME solution (NOT JavaSE). For small volumes business deployments and individual copies for personal use, the IBM Java ME virtual machine (WEME) may be purchased from our business partner, Handango for $25 USD. All of our Java runtimes that are available from Handango are Java ME certified and we provide solutions for various Java ME profiles and operating systems.
IBM no longer provides free evaluation or trial copies in the open on the IBM web site or IBM Direct Sales. It is only available under IBM SWG OEM Contracts.
i use esmertec's java and downloaded gmail's java app and its been working beautifully for a long time. definitely would not use the pop process, as you'll get a new email whenever you send emails as well. quite annoying...
gmail mobile
HELP.
Att Tilt. I am too newbie to put all the threads together. If someone could walk me thru all the steps I need to take to get the gmail mobile app to work and also after its downloaded is there a way to shortcut it to the home/today screen. I've got the HTC homescreen and the other one. I found this link on the gmail help site:
http://groups.google.com/group/gmai...?lnk=gst&q=gmail+mobile+tilt#dfaf2289978e9159
How do I check if I have the right JAVA or not? Please senior members start from the beginning step by step. Thanks
Hello, perhaps anybody can help me.
I just got my XDA Diamond and thanks some genius guys posting here i got the htc rom running now and i am very happy about that.
I tried to find a thread where my folowing question will be answered but i couldn´t find one. If anyone knows about such a thread just send me a link or give me a advice. It´s not my attention to spam around....
I installed the task manager and saw lots of processes running like
operaplel.exe
poutlook.exe
sapsettings.exe
rapicInt
tmail.exe
biotouch.exe
quickgps.exe
SIPGT_app.exe
And I asked myselfe if I can shut down these processes if they arent necessary. Also i don´t know witch are importante and which not, or wich you need for doing what....
f i kill some of them, i´ll get more free ram, and perhaps better speed-performance with longer sandby-battery-time , would that be right????!!!!
I also read about the biotouch.exe that is total unnecessary on the diamond and is just necessary with the cube that the diamond doesn´t have.
Don´t know of that is right or not.
I also tried to find out how to prevent thes processes to autostart.
But there are thousands of entries in the reg. so i could find out anything...
Many Greeting to all
Markus
Ok, I tried to search for example for operaprel.exe in the registry, but i couldn´t find any key in the whole reg.
So there must be a other way to stop the autostart loading of this exe.
The i read about the autostart folder in windows but there istn´t the operaprel.exe...
So could anybody just give me a short advice or a link where this is explained...
I couldn´t find anything that helps me going on...sorry
I also found out that poutlook should better keep on running because its the mail client and tmail is the account manager.
And SAPSettings stands for SIM ACCESS PROFILE and is a Bluetooth Data transfer Protokol, so i´ll better keep it running...
1. Look into \Windows\StartUp folder. Sounds like it is the Autostart directory for WM. There is an item named HTCStartup. It could be the thing which launches opera loader and other things. I haven't tried removing it though. You can kill off opera loader using some process manager and everything will work fine.
2. tmail can be closed by launching Messagages via Start then closing it. Atleast for me it does close.
Hi i tried that, but i didn´t write down all the files that are loaded when i keep this files in the "windows/autostart/" folder.
But it seems that it is more free memory avriable.
I´m gonna test it today again and i hope it worked good.
But the operaprel.exe and some other files starts also...
But tanks alot for your advise!