Charge TD via USB. How much mA required? - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

I a week i am about travelling through Europe. From Denmark to Italy. I wanna use TomTom7 and my Diamond as Navigator. I thought about using the inbuilt USB plug in my car. But im only allowed to use 500mA. Does someone know how much power Diamond uses when plugged in USB and GPS active?

helskov said:
I a week i am about travelling through Europe. From Denmark to Italy. I wanna use TomTom7 and my Diamond as Navigator. I thought about using the inbuilt USB plug in my car. But im only allowed to use 500mA. Does someone know how much power Diamond uses when plugged in USB and GPS active?
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Look under the gps threads. You will surely experience some sort of collaps after 4-5 hours as the TD runs hot and stops charging. The trick is to place it so it can stay cool and let it rest (switch off and let it recharge) while you rest on the way. I'll advise you to consider a second battery as it will collaps just as you need it the most.
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And do get a proper car recharger as well as the spare bat (e.g. Happii.dk sells both battery and the original HTC car charger CU S170 cheap - I got mine there and it features the HTC logo rather than the usual LED - cool. Also the pouches are more than cheap there should you need one).

Nuri58 said:
Look under the gps threads. You will surely experience some sort of collaps after 4-5 hours as the TD runs hot and stops charging. The trick is to place it so it can stay cool and let it rest (switch off and let it recharge) while you rest on the way. I'll advise you to consider a second battery as it will collaps just as you need it the most.
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Just place it in front of an air conditiong vent and you will probably be OK. When in doubt: check if the LED-circle around the centre button is flashing or burning (this can be tricky to see in bright sunlight).

sandeman684 said:
Just place it in front of an air conditiong vent and you will probably be OK. When in doubt: check if the LED-circle around the centre button is flashing or burning (this can be tricky to see in bright sunlight).
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Indeed - You'll get involved in an accident (in which case it dosn't matter if the phone is charged or not). The problem with iGO8 (my navigation) is it has a remaining bat. bar which shows full bat. in blue when connected to the car charger, even when it does not charge (I verified this by looking at the absence of the blue ring). Putting in fron of the vent is quite imposible not to say inconvient location, but a fan might do. I am also not sure if condense could become a problem.

helskov said:
I a week i am about travelling through Europe. From Denmark to Italy. I wanna use TomTom7 and my Diamond as Navigator. I thought about using the inbuilt USB plug in my car. But im only allowed to use 500mA. Does someone know how much power Diamond uses when plugged in USB and GPS active?
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The car charger gives between 1 A to 1.5 A depending on brand.

can i charge the diamond with car charger that give 5.4V
and not 5V as the original give??
ami

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Alpine cradle small grill holes, whats in there?

Hi fellows,
I was wondering about the small grill holes on front of the Alpine cradle since I am using it. today I have finally opened it and that was a dissapointment, there was nothing attached to that grill as I was thinking it could be a microphone or a speaker. Have a look.
Cheers
Sidd
Ha!
Thank you for doing that. It was something I'd wondered too!
My question to you now is....
...did your cradle still work when you put it back together? lol
Yeh mate, it is working absolutely fine.
Cheers
Sidd
are there some adjustable elements? I am thinking, why my 4500mA battery does not work with it max capacity... It can not charge fully.
No Server, there were not any adjustable switches or jumper at all. This is just a simple 2 PCB cradle as you can see in the picture, 2 PCB (printed Circuit Board) one for phone and other for battery (indivisually).
Try to check your FULLY CHARGED battery with a voltage checking machine (Multi meter) and see if the mentioned "mAh & VDC" are giving the correct output, if not and if you have bought it recently, then try to talk to the seller.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=46455&criteria=multi meter&doy=23m4
:idea: GoodLuck :idea:
Sidd
pins 2 ad 3 via wich charge is going reports me 0v...
My multimeter can not see any voltage on them at all!!!
Both battery somehow senses precence of the phone(so, in phone it works)...
Is this possible with this multimeter: http://www.multimeterwarehouse.com/dt830b.htm
If the phone is detecting the batteries that means obviously the batteries has got voltage in them, seems like you are not using the right setting on your multimeter, try to check any normal AA (normal household) battery and see if the multimeter is showing anything.
GoodLuck
Sidd
Yes, on normal battery and even on Siemens SX1's battery voltage shows.
But no voltage on Qtek battery. Using pin 2 and 3, 20V DCV setting on the multimeter.
I got a serial cradle some time back to permit me to sync. to Virtual PC (since the Connectix version didn't support USB). I was also curious so I looked - on the serial cradle, there IS a microphone behind the grill. I've not been able to do much with it but it is there.
Hi server sorry for the late reply mate.
Ok The problem is I haven't got any multimeter with me at the moment, I might go to some electric shop to try one. I will let you know as soon as I got something.
Cheers
Sidd
Second Battery Slot - Does it Work?
sidd,
Do you know if the spare battery slot actually charges a battery if you put one in?
Kind regards.
Yes it absolutely does charge the battery, it also indicate by an ORANGE light where written "Aux Battery", and turns GREEN once fully charge.
Sidd
Thanks sidd ...
Bu$$er. Mine must be broken. It has never worked, never lit Aux light, any colour. Is there any selection I might have missed, or is it most likely a duff cradle, would you say?
Kind regards,
viffer
The second slot will only charge if you have the power supply plugged in, it won't work off the USB alone. I have three cradles (two USB, one serial) - they all behave the same.
Alpine Cradle 2nd Battery Slot
sidd/mtbsoft
All working now thanks. I had been using a gash multi-voltage power supply from Tandy. When I brought the original O2 power pack down from the bedroom and swapped it, everything worked fine.
Thanks all.
anytime mate,
good luck
Those grills are for a microphone but this is not included in the standard cradle supplied with the phone. You have to order the special cradle from an O2 supplier. The spare jack socket at the rear is also designed to connect to external stereo speakers but again is missing in the standard cradle. Considering the price of the XDA it is sad to think they removed these minor items so that we would need to order another cradle at $60 if we wanted to use our XDAs as desktop music players. They saved a dollar in costs and removed much of the funtionality of the cradle.....
Bit **** that, ain't it. :/
ianpac said:
Those grills are for a microphone but this is not included in the standard cradle supplied with the phone. You have to order the special cradle from an O2 supplier. The spare jack socket at the rear is also designed to connect to external stereo speakers but again is missing in the standard cradle. Considering the price of the XDA it is sad to think they removed these minor items so that we would need to order another cradle at $60 if we wanted to use our XDAs as desktop music players. They saved a dollar in costs and removed much of the funtionality of the cradle.....
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Now this might be pushing it but, it seems we have some chaps here that aren't to daft when it comes to electronics?! So what I'm thinking if someone has the cradle that does have the mic etc in it, then we could have a butchers at theirs, and retro fit ours?
mtbsoft said:
I got a serial cradle some time back to permit me to sync. to Virtual PC (since the Connectix version didn't support USB). I was also curious so I looked - on the serial cradle, there IS a microphone behind the grill. I've not been able to do much with it but it is there.
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I don't suppose you fancy taking the base off again?
I wonder if you could compare the insides of you serial cradle that has the mic with the insides of a USB that doesn't.
The reason I ask is I'm wondering if we'd find that everything is there for the mic/speaker on the USB version, just the mic is missing. If that was a case its easy to get hold of a mic and add it in yourself.
This has all suddenly reminded me of a article I saw when I first got my XDA, some chap saying that he was doing hands free at his desk using the cradle.
Tom

Charging + TOMTOM = Problem

Hi to all!!.
Let's see if someone out there can give me a reason or a solution for my problem.
This weekend I went on a long trip and I found that if I use my TomTom while charging the Kaiser (regular car charger) at some point the PDA stopped charging and showed the "low battery" icon. The only way to get it charging again is doing a soft reset (with the device unplugged) and then plugging it again.
This is quite annoying since it's impossible to do this while driving since I need the GPS to get to my destination (this is the reason to have GPS, right!?)
any solutions??? I would be eternally gratefull if someone gets me out of this!
Thanxs in advance.
What is the current rating of the charger? When I used a cheap charger made for the RAZR I couldn't keep a positive charge when using GPS and sometimes it would stop charging and I'd have to disconnect and re-connect it. Didn't have to reset though. I suggest you get a higher current charger made for the Kaiser.
marc
I had this problem too and I simply changed the charger. Also, make sure that you see the "charging" icon with the electrical cord displayed when the device is connected.
I've had similar problems using several different car chargers.
When looking at the charger specs, I saw they all had a 1000mA current maximum. When I found a HTC charger for the TYTNII I immediately looked at the specs, and behold: 2000mA max. current
With the HTC 2000mA charger I haven't had any problems sofar. A week ago I drove 3000km using my TYTNII with tomtom and Charging/navigating went fine.
Yes... that may be the issue, I'm not using a cheap charger, I'm using the cheapest charger I could find!!!! jajajaja
And in fact it was done for the V3 RAZR... so... I'll try not to be so mean and buy a good one!.
I will tell you if this worked!... Many thanxs!!
I thought this was just happening to me as no-one posted about it 'til now!
Mine is from mobilefun, supposedly fine for a Kaiser, but i guess it's not.
There's no details on the product page about what current it can draw, but at £7 i think i may need a better one.
Can anyone point me to a site that quotes the rated mA for their products?
It's definitely the charger. I got 2 cheap ones from overseas for about $1 and I use it to charge up my psp and kaiser. The home adapter can't charge up the psp but only the phone and the car adapter can charge up both at the same time with no problems. And its using the exact same cable as well. So its definitely the adapter.
I agree 100% - I bought a cheap charger from eBay, but it would not charge the phone when using TomTom - and barely hold the charge when playing MP3s. I replaced witha genuine HTC charger and everything is fine
Your mileage with HTC original chargers may vary
The idea of using an original HTC charger for some reason seems popular here. The original charger that came with my 'sealed box' TyTN II lasted 4 charges (about 2 weeks as I'd charged by USB cable the rest of the time) before it made a loud click and the light extinguished for the last time. When I called HTC to ask whether a different model of replacement could be provided I was told I would only receive another charger of the same model. Not wanting to have the possibility of regular failures (and this thing did look cheap and nasty), I bought a different charger for £8.95 and that ones been going fine since. The one I now have is shiny and black (matching the TyTN II casing perfectly) and it came with a set of different interchangable 'prong adapters' so I can use it in the UK, USA, Europe and Australia
For a multiband top of the range phone like the TyTN II, why didn't the manufacturers supply these in the first place. My rating of the original HTC TyTN II charger that came supplied with my UK sourced device in Sep 2007 is 0 out of 10
I bought a 300W inverter from Maplin for £20 and use the three pin plug charger that I use in the house...
hmmr said:
I've had similar problems using several different car chargers.
When looking at the charger specs, I saw they all had a 1000mA current maximum. When I found a HTC charger for the TYTNII I immediately looked at the specs, and behold: 2000mA max. current
With the HTC 2000mA charger I haven't had any problems sofar. A week ago I drove 3000km using my TYTNII with tomtom and Charging/navigating went fine.
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Could you let us know where you got this charger? I think I am running 700mA in the car, which is a SLOW charge... Thanks for the help...
I've bought the charger in a local store, but after some googling, i found it HERE
If you click on the picture to enlarge, you can just make out the max current (2A) on the label.
Using HTC part no. 81551 should give you plenty of results
Well mine also just developed this problem. Drove 130 miles in one day a couple of weeks ago (using Tomtom) and my old tytn 1 car charger worked fine. Then a week ago drove 40 miles using same charger and when I got where I as going I found the battery was almost flat and the phone was really hot! So did a search and found this appears to be a common problem with this phone. (Although I can't understand why it worked fine when I did the 130 mile drive!)
Anyway have taken the plunge and bought a genuine HTC car charge. First off, as others have said, I can confirm that it has a 2amp rating (my other one was rated at 1amp). Went out with it for the first time today for a short journey to a shop to test it using Tomtom. After 5 mins it did the same as my old one, the charging light went off and battery stopped charging. However after my shopping (bought something for my kids who have chicken pox currently!) I went for a 15 min drive and it worked ok, actually charging throughout and increased my battery by about 3% (from 74% to 77%).
So the upshot is - I don't know what the heck is going on - could be that my battery or phone got itself into a mess with the first charger and took a while to recognise the new one - or it could be an intermittent problem!
What I do know is that I am shortly doing a 1000mile round trip and I need it to be reliable - so will do more testing over the next few weeks and let you all know how it goes. Its still under guarantee so any more nonsense and it will go back.
In the meantime if anyone has any further info on this please post.
Cheers
Barney
Barneyabz said:
Well mine also just developed this problem. Drove 130 miles in one day a couple of weeks ago (using Tomtom) and my old tytn 1 car charger worked fine. Then a week ago drove 40 miles using same charger and when I got where I as going I found the battery was almost flat and the phone was really hot! So did a search and found this appears to be a common problem with this phone. (Although I can't understand why it worked fine when I did the 130 mile drive!)
Anyway have taken the plunge and bought a genuine HTC car charge. First off, as others have said, I can confirm that it has a 2amp rating (my other one was rated at 1amp). Went out with it for the first time today for a short journey to a shop to test it using Tomtom. After 5 mins it did the same as my old one, the charging light went off and battery stopped charging. However after my shopping (bought something for my kids who have chicken pox currently!) I went for a 15 min drive and it worked ok, actually charging throughout and increased my battery by about 3% (from 74% to 77%).
So the upshot is - I don't know what the heck is going on - could be that my battery or phone got itself into a mess with the first charger and took a while to recognise the new one - or it could be an intermittent problem!
What I do know is that I am shortly doing a 1000mile round trip and I need it to be reliable - so will do more testing over the next few weeks and let you all know how it goes. Its still under guarantee so any more nonsense and it will go back.
In the meantime if anyone has any further info on this please post.
Cheers
Barney
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I too have had similar problems. Bought a quality Brodit (Active) car holder with charger and it seems to charge for only about 30s-1min. The orange charge light only stays on for a short while and then then battery runs down!
Interestingly the charge indicator on the screen always shows that the device is being charged whilst connected in the car - even though the orange charge light has gone out. I've posted this in the general area for kaiser and also in the ROM area applicable (Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700) in case it may be ROM specific.
Another person reports no issue with the same charger as mine and the same ROM - it's all very annoying because there would seem to be too many complaining about such issues. The output amperage may be the issue but surely the Brodit (which is good quality) charger should be fine?
I will post whan I get this issue solved but I wonder if there is something in the Registry that can cause such issues too - I agree the output limitations are also of relevance (I just cannot believe that this is my issue).
Well I have been using the official HTC charger for a month now without any problems, only thing I would say is that my journeys have all been short (under an hour at most). however using my old charger it would die after a much shorter period so problem does seem to be resolved.
cheers
Barney
Temperature
Hi.
I had the same problem, with a different GPS software. Check the temperature of your device ( you can use a software called " Battery Status ". In my kaiser it never showed me a bubble ( like some other ROM ) that it reached 47C and then the phone automatically stops the charge.
The heat is from actual charging + the sun. I have a window mount and the phone was on it when I was charging. Take all into account and you will see that it will over heat quite fast.
I solved the problem by putting the phone in a shaded place when charging it. It also helped if its next to the vent, but don't cool it to much, because if you do then when you use the AC and you go out, some of the connectors of the phone will get corrosion on them ( SIM, USB, SD etc.) .
Good luck.
There are 2 reasons: The first just got mentioned, overheating by the combined effect of the device heating up itself and other factors like the sun. If the battery heats up too much, the safety system will stop charge, and the battery will then be drained until empty. No soft reset needed, but the device has to be cooled to the appropriate temp and the charger disconnected/reconnected. I was also having that issue when using my older Hermes with 3G sharing over wifi and downloading hard, even with the battery cover removed and the keyboard open the device was heating so much on itself it would cause that. The Kaiser seems to heat less when doing the same BTW.
The second is that when using a common charger (not HTC branded), even if it is rated at 2 amps the phone won't be drawing those 2 amps from it but will limit itself to about 500mA.
The reason is simply that it's being charged from a USB port, and a USB device is not allowed to draw more than 500mA from a USB port. HTC chargers have a chip inside and tell the phone that they are official chargers from which the phone may draw more. Without that identification the phone stays in low current mode.
On the Hermes it was even simpler, if you connected a generic charger it would not charge at all. It would only accept charging from an active USB port it was able to have a communication with, or the original charger.
So, use original HTC chargers when current draw is high. The Kaiser with GPS, full backlight and a GPS program running will draw something pretty close to the 500mA.
I used to be cheap on charger too until I used the battery sucker Dell Axim x51v (612mzh, VGA, BT) on my car. The I brought the 2A ecovell usb charger and my problem solve.
tony.wheeler said:
I too have had similar problems.
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Have you seen this thread yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343951
Looks like that may be your issue. Saw a chap in the phone shop (in High Wycombe) the other day with a TyTN II with faulty USB port. Must be a common thing around the area but as I don't have a car to put a car charger into, it won't affect me!
Original charger
I had the same charging issue and solved it with an original htc charger, cheapest i could find was on Amazon for £12 delivered:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Original-HT...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1214645330&sr=1-1

Charging battery while using TomTom 6 in the car

Hello everybody,
i wonder if any of you encountered the problem of not charging the battery in the car while using TomTom 6. It happened to me many times and it's quite annoying because at a certain point the phone will go off and it will need to be charged while off otherwise it will not work.
Since it happened in different cars it does not depend by the charger but has to be a software problem either of WM or TomTom.
Any suggestion?
Thanks!
Panco
Buy a decent charger with at least 2A.
2A? 1A should be more than enough...
(I'm not sure you'd be able to find a 2A USB charger as the USB2.0 spec requires connectors to be rated at 1.5A tops so if there was such a beast I personally wouldn't touch it)
Mathew
Do a careful inspection of the USB connector on the phone and the car cradles/leads - my money is on a piece of cloth/fluff etc breaking the charger connection.
Today, I tried using CoPilot (with a live internet connection going for Traffic updates), with bluetooth switched on (so that I could connect with my Parrot kit in the car), and the phone on charge.
On the journey back home, CoPilot was running (and on the screen) whilst I was on a call via the Parrot. And yet, the battery was still getting charged properly! I was actually impressed that the charging would work automatically once the cable was inserted - my MDA Pro needed the display to be off before I could see the red charging light come on and for the phone to start charging.
FYI, the charger was a cigar_lighter_adapter-2-USB_cable type.
I've got an MDA Compact IV with the original ROM (but TouchFlo tweaks, etc).
So, I'd say either there's something wrong with your adapter, cable, or indeed TomTom is using a lot of juice!
panco said:
Hello everybody,
i wonder if any of you encountered the problem of not charging the battery in the car while using TomTom 6. It happened to me many times and it's quite annoying because at a certain point the phone will go off and it will need to be charged while off otherwise it will not work.
Since it happened in different cars it does not depend by the charger but has to be a software problem either of WM or TomTom.
Any suggestion?
Thanks!
Panco
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No, it does this with most GPS SW and the problem is heating preventing battery charging to avoid the battery to catch fire, especially with the the phone placed in the windscreen with the sun on it. At night the issue is no longer an issue. So when you have a break for coffee let the phone have a break too to cool down and recharge.
Or mount it infront of an air con vent
Nuri58 said:
No, it does this with most GPS SW and the problem is heating preventing battery charging to avoid the battery to catch fire, especially with the the phone placed in the windscreen with the sun on it. At night the issue is no longer an issue. So when you have a break for coffee let the phone have a break too to cool down and recharge.
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Thank for your post, i think you got the point with something (the heating of the battery+gps) preventing the battery to recharge; i'm convinced of this because the problem is not always present but it comes at certain conditions.
I'll try to let the diamond cool down at regular intervals and not to position too exposed. I also noticed that it's advisable to first connect the phone to the charger then after some minutes run the tomtom otherwise the problem is likely to happen.
Thanks to all.
Panco
There are many tool available to show you the internal temperature of the device - the battery monitor 'Batti' is one such tool (and it's free).
Give something like that a try then you'll be able to see if your problems bear any correlation with temperature.
Mathew
Im experiencing the same with Garmin, yes, it was hot...first I thought the cigarette-to-usb-adapter was not strong enough....
Will try to keep it cool
You need a USB car charger with at least 1A, as said in previous post, but with any USB cable the current limiting will be lways be 500mA.
Only the original Diamond cable will allow you to charge with currents over 500mA. To measure the charge current you can use several programs, like my TodayWarrior (as it is a plugin you will need to disable temporarilt Touch Flo or use Second Today).
It's not heating of battery, but just that when Using tomtom, with backlight, Full GPS usage, phone on and that VGA screen just pulls more than your charger can bring
Got the same issue, and yes, as said before, get a heavier charger.
I have the same problem using IGO8.
First point, using Full GPS in car will consumme a lot of energy.
So it's better to use a 2A/5V charger (5V is the important thing ... And for your information, HTC is selling 2A car charger for their last phones ...)
Second point, the GPS chip is badly placed in the phone, behind the battery.
So yes, when the GPS is used for a long time, it makes the battery hot and the phone stops the battery charging ...
The point is to use a good car craddle, one that lets the phone "breath" (one that doesn't cover to much the rear of the phone) ...
beemerTPPC said:
You need a USB car charger with at least 1A, as said in previous post, but with any USB cable the current limiting will be lways be 500mA.
Only the original Diamond cable will allow you to charge with currents over 500mA. To measure the charge current you can use several programs, like my TodayWarrior (as it is a plugin you will need to disable temporarilt Touch Flo or use Second Today).
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The input sideon car chargers inclusive of HTC is 500 mA at 12 V and the output side 1A at 5V, which is what the phone requires and all car chargers I have do. But the important thing about ion-lit batteries is that they require very controlled charging conditions (contrary to the older Metal or Cadnium). E.g. If the battery is completely flat (2 V or below) it is extremely hard to recharge and will require several hours in the charger while building up the voltage to about 3.2V, only then normal charge will start. Sometimes the stand-by consumption of a phone makes it imposible to recharge it while in the phone, and requires an external recharger. This may explain the observatiobn that it is better to wait a couple of minutes before starting TT after connecting to the recharger to ensure correct initial charging.
Riel said:
It's not heating of battery, but just that when Using tomtom, with backlight, Full GPS usage, phone on and that VGA screen just pulls more than your charger can bring
Got the same issue, and yes, as said before, get a heavier charger.
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This is the way to get a battery to explode, but fortunately the phone will not allow charging to take place and adding more amps will possibly increase heating and just worsen the situation. But correct as more power the device draws as hotter it gets and as sooner charging stops.
As Nani says there is an element of disign problem (cannot be a surprice to HTC that people actually will like to use the Navigation also on long drives), so if placed so it can cool will defenetly help. So will dimming the display to the minimum.

My Motorcycle will not charge my phone (most of the time)

Something is fishy. I have 2 tilts (mine and my wife's) and every time we go for a ride on my new bike my little charge light comes on but with in minutes of riding the abmer charge light on the phone goes out. The light for the car charger is on and the light on the HTC adapter (audio/power splitter) is on, but the phone stops charging. Sometimes after maybe 10mins it will kick back over to charging but not for a long time and then it is a gamble if it will stay charging (normally not).
Trouble Shooting I have tried:
- Different adapters
- Different Car Chargers
- Different socket/outlet
- I even switched phones with my wife today after mine was almost dead after 1/2 day of riding. her phone ont the otherhand stayed charging just fine all day and had the nice pretty "fully charge green light". After switching, she was able to charge my almost dead phone on her bike and I was able to DRAIN hers on my bike :-(
The only constant I can find is my BIKE. ARGH!!!
Note that after taking the phone off my bike and bringing it in the house and pluging it is to the wall charger it still took a few minutes for the amber light to come on. It is almost like the bike does something to the phone that makes the phone quit trying to charge.
One last thing to note, the phone not charging is only the case if I am using the PDA for either Music or GPS or both. If the pda is in Standby mode or OFF it will keep charging just fine.
Both Phones are AT&T Tilt
ROM HD_III WWE
Radio 1.65.17.56
Running:
SPB Pocket Plus
SPB Phone Plus
iGo 2006
Pocket Music
HTC Home disabled
SanDisk 8GB Micro SD card
We are about to head off on a 3,000mile road trip next month and I would really like this to not be an issue. If anyone has anything I can try please let me know.
Thanks
-D
heat related
I was having the same problem and I found out it's due to heat, when the battery becomes hot, the phone stops charging to protect it. when you ride your bike let the wind cool down your phone and you will see it will start charging again.
Exact, sounds like a heat problem. Avoid putting your Tilt in sunlight or at a places where heat from the motor will flow on it.
Maybe try comparing how the locations your Tilts are installed on your bike and your wife's regarding heat and find a place on yours that is suitable.
The phone will stop charging when the battery reaches 40-50°C, which is easy to reach in minutes in sunlight, and helped by the heat the phone generates itself when GPS is on.
Nice point! I have not confirmed your theory yet, but, I have a windscreen and my wife does not. I will move my mount to outside the wind screen and see if that helps. I live in AZ so it is very hot this time of year!
Thanks
-D
i have doubts on the heat theory -- i was in a road trip last weekend (from Bahrain to Saudi) and i used my ppc to navigate - i assure u that outside temp. was 48°C (118°F) and my kaiser was under direct sunlight.. it was functioning -- so based on experience i will reject the theory
i dont want to sound smarty but why dont u carry spare charged battery
when u rest charge both - just a thought
CrozB said:
Nice point! I have not confirmed your theory yet, but, I have a windscreen and my wife does not. I will move my mount to outside the wind screen and see if that helps. I live in AZ so it is very hot this time of year!
Thanks
-D
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jahrami said:
i have doubts on the heat theory -- i was in a road trip last weekend (from Bahrain to Saudi) and i used my ppc to navigate - i assure u that outside temp. was 48°C (118°F) and my kaiser was under direct sunlight.. it was functioning -- so based on experience i will reject the theory
i dont want to sound smarty but why dont u carry spare charged battery
when u rest charge both - just a thought
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That a legit question. The answer is, when running the GPS, Brightness at full, and all day road trips that take 8-12hrs I would need several batteries.
-D
maybe you should just get a Garmin-Motobike GPS instead
best wishes and have nice & safe trip
CrozB said:
That a legit question. The answer is, when running the GPS, Brightness at full, and all day road trips that take 8-12hrs I would need several batteries.
-D
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jahrami said:
maybe you should just get a Garmin-Motobike GPS instead
best wishes and have nice & safe trip
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+1
It's best to buy a cheap $100-$200 GPS then. Or buy lots of cheap batters from china. But you know the second solution won't work that well D:
To me it sounds more like your bike isn't putting enough juice out to charge the phone while the GPS and everything else is running. I'd check the output of her bike vs your bike.
jahrami said:
i have doubts on the heat theory -- i was in a road trip last weekend (from Bahrain to Saudi) and i used my ppc to navigate - i assure u that outside temp. was 48°C (118°F) and my kaiser was under direct sunlight.. it was functioning -- so based on experience i will reject the theory
i dont want to sound smarty but why dont u carry spare charged battery
when u rest charge both - just a thought
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I can certainly assure you that heat will prevent the kaiser from charging. There are times where i have to move my mount in front of the A/C just to cool the phone down so it will charge. I am not in a terribly hot climate and I also have 2 Tilts that will do the exact same thing. I would say that it gets to about 100F here without the A/C on here in maryland in the August month. Even inside if you were to run the GPS WIFI and tether to bluetooth..... I am SURE your phone will start getting warm after 20 minutes
Heat theory ended up being a bust. Quit charging after a few mins even in the open air. Rode to about 5 miles got gas (it started charging again while i was getting gas) started riding home and it stop by the time I had gotten back on the freeway.
But wait, GOOD NEWS!!!
I went back home and hooked up a new cord directly the positive and negative of the battery and sure enough it is working perfect. Guess that means I [email protected]#ked up the install of my outlets on the bike. I think it must be a bad ground because I ran the + directly to the battery.
Thanks for the help!
-D

TomTom Car Charger work on HTC touch

Hey Guys,
I notice that the HTC has a generic UBS connection. And shares the same connection type as my TomTom Car charger for my GPS system. I am wondering if I can use the charger for my phone without frying it?
Thanks
ern88 said:
Hey Guys,
I notice that the HTC has a generic UBS connection. And shares the same connection type as my TomTom Car charger for my GPS system. I am wondering if I can use the charger for my phone without frying it?
Thanks
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i read in another thread somebody fried thier vogue doing that if i find the post ill quote it
masalma said:
I have a vogue that i plugged into a gps charger, led flashed pink and never heard from the phone again lol. it is dead if he needs it for parts it is his.
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guess this answers it
Hey. Thanks alot. I thought I would asked before I became a doe head. Thanks
I use my TomTom one charger to charge my Touch XV6900 all the time also have used it on a 6800 that my wife has. Never had any problems myself. But it really has to do with the voltage that the charger supplies. The Motorola charger puts out on 3 volts when a usb supplies 5 volts and the HTC can charge on the 5 volts but not the other way around.
tomtom gps charger for vogue
works like it was made for it. i use mine all the time.never had an issue.and means that i only need one cord in the car which is good with a miata
Just for the record; I used my Vogue with TomTom car charger, worked wonderfully well, atleast thats what I thought but I ended up destroying my mini usb connection on phone. Now I have to hold the original charger at a particular position or it wont charge!!
i would be cautious. im pretty sure all the USB plugs are wired the same- hence universal- i tried a charger i had laying around the house with a universal plug and similar voltages and it worked like a charm- once- then i tried it again and it wont recognize the charger for a charge- havent the slightest idea what is going on with it but i would suggest OEM car charger or power inverter (i have one in the car for my laptop)

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