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Does anyone have any experience with SOTI Pocket Controller and the Kaiser (Tilt)? It looks like a decent application but I wanted to check with other Kaiser owners. Feedback is appreciated. Thank you.
I've used this on both my Wizard and my Kaiser and it works as advertised. It definitely saves me time after a hard reset being able to use my keyboard!
I use it with my tytn II all the time. its so much easier typing out sms messages using the pc keyboard and for general use for entering information onto my phone
great for doing screenshots with the phone as a background or just the screen capture also
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n218/dolbe666/pc_capture3.jpg
I use it as well on my Hermes and my Kasier. Hard to beat for remote control from my desktop for sms and screenshots.
Ryan in support has been great the few times I have needed support.
Brad
Purchased and...
I purchased the software and it is really nice. I was hoping the File Explorer would allow me to see everything but it appears that I am not able to see all files; even with show system files checked. Does anyone know of a workaround?
Thanks for the feedback. It is defiantly worth it.
MyMobiler is free and I think it does the same stuff:
http://www.mymobiler.com/
I use it with my Tilt and it works perfectly. Couldn't ask for more.
xfive420 said:
MyMobiler is free and I think it does the same stuff:
http://www.mymobiler.com/
I use it with my Tilt and it works perfectly. Couldn't ask for more.
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its not quite the same. with pocket controller you also get full use of your d-pad and buttons and you can configure hotkeys
Use it, love it. If you look hard enough you can get it really cheap.
Great Program. I believe upgrades are free for 1 year, which is a bummer....but still the best program out there for remote control/display.
The new 6.x version even has Explorer, Registry, Task Management and System Info right from your PC Desktop.
I use it on my Tytn and love it. I don't know how I lived without it. I leave it running on my desktop all the time. Just being able to use my mouse to quickly grab a phone number or send a text pretty much makes it worth it to me. Oh and being able to install software without having to install half from the desktop and then pickup the handset to tell it where to install it is another great thing. Oh and one last thing, because my phone is plugged into my computer as soon as I sit down, the bonus is that my phone is always charged. I don't have to think to stop and plug my phone into charge as its just a natural extension to plug it into the computer to use it as soon as I sit down. Its just plain wonderful.
Is there a way for me to use a regular PC Bluetooth keyboard for my TyTN II?
I have this keyboard that would really work well with the device.
It would prove to be a really cheap alternative to the keyboard that is made for the PDA's, plus, it would make alot of things alot easier.
I would assume you must make a program that can read the signals made by the keyboard, but is this possible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Bluetooth is Bluetooth, no? What happens when you try to pair the two devices? That's a sweet idea, by the way.
I think this might interest you as well. There's a way to connect a BT mouse to WM devices. I found it on Handango.com, although, strangely, it doesn't show up if you select the AT&T Tilt as your device (but it does show up with any WM5 device).
BlueMouse
I'm going back to grad school soon, and am loving the prospect of carrying 3 small devices that (almost) do the same thing as one heavy laptop!
EDIT: Just read through this thread, and WM6 actually has native support for BT mice! Except for Microsoft's own BT mice... lol. However, I think BlueMouse supports them.
Have a look at this link for a cheap alternative :
http://www.amazon.com/Stowaway-Ultra-Slim-Bluetooth-Blackberry-Handhelds/dp/B0002OKCXE
Buy it while stocks last, I would have brought one but I live in the UK and shipping will be too expensive along with any other taxes they may want to add unless one of you guys can send me one.
Pairing
I have a Logitech bluetooth keyboard with an integrated touchpad. But when I try to pair them, my device just doesn't find the keyboard.
Although I find it amusing, I believe it is even slower using a bluetooth mouse for my phone, than actually using the touch function
But we are atleast on the right track.
For now, I use pocket controller for using my keyboard. But the downside is that it's slow and you need your device connected to the computer at all times.
Imagine using a regular bluetooth keyboard! What a dream ^^
Have you tried using a regular bluetooth keyboard that doesn't have an integrated touchpad? There could be something about that configuration that WM can't handle.
Tec1106 said:
Is there a way for me to use a regular PC Bluetooth keyboard for my TyTN II?
I have this keyboard that would really work well with the device.
It would prove to be a really cheap alternative to the keyboard that is made for the PDA's, plus, it would make alot of things alot easier.
I would assume you must make a program that can read the signals made by the keyboard, but is this possible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Assuming your PC BT keyboard supports the HID profile (it probably does), it should work with the Kaiser right out of the box, as the WM6 Bluetooth stack has HID drivers built-in.
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3waygeek said:
Assuming your PC BT keyboard supports the HID profile (it probably does), it should work with the Kaiser right out of the box, as the WM6 Bluetooth stack has HID drivers built-in.
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Ok. Now my device actually finds the keyboard, but I can't connect it. When I click connect, it asks for a password. I enter nothing, and it continues to where I can select the purpose for the keyboard. When I press finish, my device tells me that the keyboard wants to connect to my phone. Now I need a password to continue, so therfore I enter a random password, like 1111. Then my device waits for a few minutes, and tells me the keyboard has failed connecting.
I have a DiNivo Edge keyboard, if it's any help
Any ideas?
Thx ^^
Maybe...
Maybe I need a specific code, or a way to make the keyoard agree to the connection.
Difficult
Try 0000 -- that's almost always the default password for BT devices.
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Try 0000 -- that's almost always the default password for BT devices.
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Thank you, but I've already tried it. The keyboard behaves like a phone, making my phone waiting for the keyboard to input a password. Damn :\
Tec1106 said:
Thank you, but I've already tried it. The keyboard behaves like a phone, making my phone waiting for the keyboard to input a password. Damn :\
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Sorry this may seem stupid, but have you got the user maual for the keyboard? Or tried the manufacturers site if not? They may have a general config for it (PC and WM device association key will be the same).
Otherwise, look around the keyboard (and even in the battery compartment of the keyboard) for a four digit number to try.
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Sorry this may seem stupid, but have you got the user maual for the keyboard? Or tried the manufacturers site if not? They may have a general config for it (PC and WM device association key will be the same).
Otherwise, look around the keyboard (and even in the battery compartment of the keyboard) for a four digit number to try.
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No, it doesn't sound stupid Sometimes even the smartest person forgets the simpliest resolutions
But I have already tried that, except for the battery compartment. I have no idea how to open it, cause it's an internal rechargeable battery. But if there is an opening somewhere, I'll take a peek inside for a four digit number
Thanks!
Been looking ...
... everywhere on the net, but still haven't found a way to connect the keyboard :\ Anyone that has the DiNivo Edge keyboard, and could help me with this? It would be more than appreciated
Thank you!
Nothing works
I'm giving up
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I'm giving up
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Don't,
I've looked up the Logitech Dinvo Edge and it looks as if it comes with a proprietory BT USB dongle for PC connection and all setup is done through an install CD (for the PC).
Do you have the CD because the 4-digit pin may be on the setup instructions. Failing that, it may be best to go to your first post on this thread and edit the title to be a bit more specific such as ' Logitech Dinvo Edge BT KB, working anyone?'
Give it a go.
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Don't,
I've looked up the Logitech Dinvo Edge and it looks as if it comes with a proprietory BT USB dongle for PC connection and all setup is done through an install CD (for the PC).
Do you have the CD because the 4-digit pin may be on the setup instructions. Failing that, it may be best to go to your first post on this thread and edit the title to be a bit more specific such as ' Logitech Dinvo Edge BT KB, working anyone?'
Give it a go.
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Now, two months later, I am still clueless about how to get this working. Anyone having better luck than me?
I think you should enter your own passcode first on your PDA, and quickly typing the passcode on your BT KBD while PDA is waiting..
I could connect with Apple BT, Microsoft BT kbd..
After seeing diNovo mini in action, it's got me so aroused!
This triggers me to think about bringing WM device to be a more interactive media device, especially, something like Logitech's diNovo mini for HTPC.
I'm just wondering if any developer can come up with an app that connects Kaiser to the PC via bluetooth, and turn it into an input device with the qwerty keyboard and touchscreen as a touchpad D best if this can be integrated with Sideshow! LOL). Silly?
p.s. Hey! I know I'm just daydreaming~but if anyone has the same ideas, interests, and ability to make this happen, summon your strengths!
zhimingmo said:
After seeing diNovo mini in action, it's got me so aroused!
This triggers me to think about bringing WM device to be a more interactive media device, especially, something like Logitech's diNovo mini for HTPC.
I'm just wondering if any developer can come up with an app that connects Kaiser to the PC via bluetooth, and turn it into an input device with the qwerty keyboard and touchscreen as a touchpad D best if this can be integrated with Sideshow! LOL). Silly?
p.s. Hey! I know I'm just daydreaming~but if anyone has the same ideas, interests, and ability to make this happen, summon your strengths!
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Actually, I've been looking for a way to do this myself The closest I've got, is using remote desktop connected to the computer through WiFi. It's fun, but unpractial and not quite the solution i was looking for.
So, this possible?
I use "Signal" a program for controlling iTunes via Wifi which works well as i use itunes to stream music to different parts of the house. Its also skinable too!
In the past with my Blue Angel not only did i use that but also used Novii Remote for Stereo, TV, Sky, DVD etc and also as a remote for lights in my house.
Almost like House hold universal remote!
I have found a program called salling clicker that will control almost any media program. It also does mouse control and can send the keyboard input to the computer.
The problem is the mouse control and keyboard input are separate parts of the program so for example if I want to type in the address bar I have to go into mouse mode, move the cursor up to the bar and tap, then go into the message mode and type the address, then back to mouse mode. If it were all tied in together it would be the ultimate program for that. They may make an improvement on it too I haven't checked lately.
BTW, this is a much better deal than just the Denovo Mini because with the phone you have the screen to look at when browsing for files etc.
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
Digitaltigre said:
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
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OMG...
maaan... You just made my day.
thanks a thousand times- works like a charm.
and imagine that I was thinking of buying a wireless mouse+ keys combo for my laptop plugged to 32" lcd.
damn. this is the greatest app ever makin me love my kaiser even mo'. woo hoo! surfing from the sofa
br
bro
P.S. I am aware of the fact, that I do overact a bit on it, but You gotta try this to believe. screen is a touchpad, while slide- out keys are mapped as a proper keyboard. a must have imho.
Digitaltigre said:
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
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Anybody can explain how to use this script on HTC Kaiser? I don't have any idea how start with this one...
bronx said:
OMG...
maaan... You just made my day.
thanks a thousand times- works like a charm.
and imagine that I was thinking of buying a wireless mouse+ keys combo for my laptop plugged to 32" lcd.
damn. this is the greatest app ever makin me love my kaiser even mo'. woo hoo! surfing from the sofa
br
bro
P.S. I am aware of the fact, that I do overact a bit on it, but You gotta try this to believe. screen is a touchpad, while slide- out keys are mapped as a proper keyboard. a must have imho.
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I'm glad I made your day. It's nice to share the little gems that we find!
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Anybody can explain how to use this script on HTC Kaiser? I don't have any idea how start with this one...
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First you have to get the program called 'Salling Clicker' - it installs on your computer that you want to control.
When you have it installed and your PDA setup to connect using wifi or bt you just have to add the custom script onto your computer in the My Documents/My Clicker Scripts folder.
Then add the script using the programs menu on the computer and connect using your phone.
Hey guys,
Well I wish to start a small project, where a computer should be able to access wireless internet (3G/HSDPA), WiFi, make calls, maybe use bluetooth, etc... Then I realized that my old HTC TyTn II has all that features... And its faster than the PC im gonne use.
Problem is my HTC screen cracked. So I cant see anything. Thats why I wondered if its possible to set up a Headless Linux System. With that in place I could prob traffic all the things I need via usbnet to the PC (like internet).
The purpose...
Well the reason for this project is a small computer in my car. I ripped out a old laptop and started mounting it in my car. The laptop will then be used to control the HTC, seeing as I doubt one can add external inputs on the HTC. My laptop also has a 10GB HDD and a working screen. So a combo of the two seems fair...
Any advice on this would be very appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
Xethron
I am about to do the same, replacing radio console.
I have some touchscreen lifebooks for this purpose, you can get one for
$100 $200 in miserable state, but to disassemble, who cares
idea was to change dpi in XP and replace explorer on startup, put a 8 button big startup window, with gps, media, video, internet
now you can hook up mobile by "Pocket Controller" it's a reverse remote desktop. you see mobile screen on pc
hope this get you some ideas
How insane is it that you have a computer that is slower then your phone?
There is a program to remote control your phone, I forget the name.
would it be the one I wrote in prev post
you can buy it at soti.net. working pretty good.
no, this one is free. I shall do some digging.
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Cha Ching
http://www.mtux.com/
and a friend suggested this one.
http://www.julien-manici.com/
can't understand how could I have missed this when I was searching for one, and it's pretty old too. good tip, though too late for me.
Hey guys,
Thanks allot for the replies... I tried MyMobiler but it doesn't want to connect and seeing that I cant see the screen I am not sure whats happening... Appart from that you guys seem to be misunderstanding me totally!
Problem 1, MyMobiler only runs on windows, and I run Linux...
Problem 2, scripts cant be excecuted on the fly and communications between my two computers wont be possible with Windows Mobile.
Problem 3, Windows mobile crashes and my system will fail totally if my system ever crashes!
Besides, windows mobile have allot of junk I dont need. All I want is a simple Linux system on my HTC on which I can ssh in that will give no video output nor receive input from hardware, but that acts completely as a headless system.
It would also be cool if someone can tell me what hardware I can remove and how (Like the screen) in order to minimize power requirements...
So all I need is a version of Linux and a guide to install it so that all the functions work...
Hope this makes more sense...
Xethron
no Xethron, we didn't misunderstood you. I simply wrote what is my concept of laptop in car and ChumleyEX reacted further on my post too.
winmo is not stable, we all know that, but you should know too that linux is not so on winmo devices too. and that it is much more unstable.
It would be very nice indeed if there was no windows at all and everybody would be using linux, but if that would happen, linux would be the same commercial crap as is windows now, because that's what people are after. and that's the market. Nice fancy easy crap.
Though I encourage you to go with your linux idea, with a lot of effort, there could be perfect solution, but again, it would be much easier to just use what we've got.
If you would look around here, you'll see that on xda-dev you'll find a lot of solutions how to make a very tiny and fast winmo ROM. Stripped of all the crap. You can learn here how to strip even more, leaving only kernel + some drivers if you want.
What hw can you disconnect. I reckon you mean from pda. As you said screen backlight, that's a power eater, otherwise, devices could be turned ON/OFF from sw, which would by much safer/easier way. And you said you want to use them. instead, if you'll connect external antenna, that would spare you a lot of power while transmitting.
You should write more specific questions in order to get specific answers.
for example I am not getting it why you would want to spare 20mA consumption on some pda device and not better think about replacing HDD by CF card or ssd?
what would be your application requirements?
back for using pda in linux, it's in test state, you won't find any better working linux in pda as here. no one is hiding it nowhere. bluetooth is not working yet, phone functions are limited. wifi ok, but I doubt you could route it to PC.
as I doubt one can add external inputs on the HTC
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yes you can. bluetooth can create virtual com ports. there are BT keyboards, pointing devices too. and generally anything else what uses com port could be made. even video can go out. (all just in windows of course)
for the pda remote programs:
you need a client on pda side. it's automatic simple installation. You may try soti controller it have trial period, with that one, you only need to press left soft key on kaiser to confirm client install. After you'll have this one workingt you would be able to see what you would need with the other one.
wow... that was a useful post!
The reason I want to use the phone is so that my PC can do all the things my phone can do... Reasons for this would be the following.
I come to my car. My phone syncs via bluetooth remotely to unlock my car. I get into car. Type password. Security system goes down... I stream songs via bluetooth to my pc which plays on the car speakers. I get out. Phone looses bluetooth connection and locks automatically. Someone comes and opens the door. PC picks up door is open and sets off an alarm. Phone calls me, and sends me a sms of the GPS location... If I dont respond it sends a email to all my friends. I connect to my car via ssh and keep track of its current position. depending on other connections I have made (Like you said bluetooth might be a good bet) i can controll parts of the car via ssh. Maybe install a fuel cutoff switch or whatever. With allot of effort I get my car back. Come home. It syncs wia wifi. New music gets uploaded... And my car is ready for day 2!
Simple direction of where I wanne go...
So now that you understand what I want to do... The linux on my HTC was a way for me to simply control the hardware and run a few small scripts... Wanne run some security scripts on the HTC instead of PC because it has the backup battery and the laptop will be running off the car battery...
I really don't care how we do this... But I know it must be possible to do all this somehow...
Let me know if you have some rad other ideas... As you can see I do not really want to "see" wats going on on my phone... It must be there like the PC of a car... Tell you the tempreture on some LCD. Let you know the water level is fine... But you dont see the PC... Thats my idea anyway...
Thanks for your help so far
I come to my car. My phone syncs via bluetooth remotely to unlock my car. I get into car. Type password. Security system goes down...
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I get out. Phone looses bluetooth connection and locks automatically.
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bluetooth is a secure way, but not very safe, I've been using 3 different Hsets, with 2 diff phones, it kept on loosing connection and some even pairing. other thing, you need to iniciate BT connection (not always with audio, but yes with activesync) that means no touch-less access. and the last is battery consuption. I've been reading long time ago about an application for garage doors based on wifi connections. they discussed BT as well, decided wifi would be much better, try google (open garage wifi) there is even an soft for pda for this.
but there are $50 - $80 ready applications, it's years out there, I reckon the last version would be very reliable.
There is option to put serial GPS, which you can get off ebay for $50 (here is 5pcs for $50 now, if you'll buy it, i'll get two off you)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/5-LOT-Garmin...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35a9b4b768
and the application:
http://www.bladox.com/products.php?lang=en
and I saw other brand with the same thing too.
with this bladox, you can simply set that if you take out key and open & close drivers doors it would lock with timer (that's option what most of available classic alarms too) or a button to lock with timer to leave could be hooked up.
you can set plenty of outputs and inputs, freely configurable. e.g remotely shut the engine, horn the horn, knock on window function...
consuption would be around 20mA on charging mobile. with car battery 100mA is a concern and 200mA permanent current is an issue. (all time running PC = 2A = 2000mA = NO WAY)
locking-unlocking could be done through ring (without answering) or sms.
I would say ring is pretty safe, as who would go through trouble of tempering with gsm switch control to fake your caller ID? (+ who would know about you have this setup + know your car phene num and your phone number)
and if a friend would call you he forget a wallet in your car, you don't need to get up of bed to unlock, just dial.
I stream songs via bluetooth to my pc which plays on the car speakers.
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audio quality isn't 100% plus maybe switching/pairing and your mobile needs to be on a charge for playing longer through BT -> no wireless.
use your phone in a disk drive mode and play from PC in car OR
your pda in car through SD to USB adapter (TwinMOS GoGo Egg Card Reader)
there would be limit 64GB for sure, maybe 2GB limit (is it SDHC compatible?)
I don't know nothing about it, only that it exists
Someone comes and opens the door. PC picks up door is open and sets off an alarm. Phone calls me, and sends me a sms of the GPS location.
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bladox can do + power on your PC which would start streaming video from web cam, you can call to car and tell the guy how he looks like and where he's going and that police is already waiting there.
It must be there like the PC of a car... Tell you the tempreture on some LCD. Let you know the water level is fine...
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ha, stop dreaming get OBD II and live it!
connect your car engine through cable OR WIFI!! to PC or PDA!! and look at all temperatures, compression levels, exhaust system, error msgs, and if you like make it active and let your car know you feel like having fun now, or maybe more econo mode other time.
OBD II - all cars since yr 96 on US market, $50 -$100 for interface (soft free)
Not having much luck at locating a bluetooth keyboard and mouse (compact in size) that is proven to work with the HD2. Any help? Thanks.
I know this keyboard works ...
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/mini-bluetooth-keyboard-for-smartphones/
I use a full size apple bluetooth keyboard personally ...
Have not seen one , but I don't think a mouse will work at all, don't think the phone has mouse cursor support ...
MyMobiler
I use MyMobiler when I am at my computer. It allows me to use my computer to type and my mouse to click on things.
http://www.mymobiler.com/
jkitsmiller said:
I use MyMobiler when I am at my computer. It allows me to use my computer to type and my mouse to click on things.
http://www.mymobiler.com/
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MyMobiler is so cool. While it doesn't replace a blue tooth keyboard and mouse, to be able to control your phone from the PC is mostly there. And it's free
Thanks for the link.
Well, there was one bluetooth mouse (regular small mouse, with scroll wheel and all) that, besides working on a regular PC with standard BT HID profile, came with a software driver for Windows Mobile, and one could use it with any WM device, so I assume it would work with the HD2.
It is the Stowaway BT Mouse, from Think Outside, the same company that made various full-size fold-up BT keyboards (which also work on any WM device).
Unfortunately, Stowaway was bought up by IGo (who mainly makes universal AC adaptors for laptops), and shortly thereafter, they shelved the whole product line. (Pretty dumb to buy up a company, then shelve its products, especially not being a competitor.) (And with the explosion in smartphones, I think that could be a growing niche, especially the keyboards. (Of course, now they would need to expand support for Iphone, Android, Blackberry, etc., as well as WM.)
So, that mouse and its software has been discontinued. However, I would bet that you could still find them on Ebay, Craigslist, etc. Look for Stowaway Bluetooth Mouse.