I have an Orange branded TyTn II, and it never connects up to 3G even though the area i live in is well covered by 3G.
It mostly stays on G. It has changed to E (EDGE) on occasions but thats it.
I am from the UK and live in the yorkshire area.
Anybody got any ideas, or do i need to speak to Orange?
Thanks
ahanson said:
I have an Orange branded TyTn II, and it never connects up to 3G even though the area i live in is well covered by 3G.
It mostly stays on G. It has changed to E (EDGE) on occasions but thats it.
I am from the UK and live in the yorkshire area.
Anybody got any ideas, or do i need to speak to Orange?
Thanks
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Did u check the band settings in settings/personal/phone?
I went into the settings and it says it is set to Auto.
So i would presume it would pick upthe best signal?
ahanson said:
I went into the settings and it says it is set to Auto.
So i would presume it would pick upthe best signal?
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Yes, at least that is doing in my case.
If that is the case any other ideas as to what it could be, and why the phone does not detect 3G?
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ahanson said:
If that is the case any other ideas as to what it could be, and why the phone does not detect 3G?
Thanks
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Where are u from?
Go to commanager and check if there is 3g turned on.
Did u try to search this forum?
Check my first post for location.
In comm manager there is no option for 3G, the only other choice i can see is data connection, and i cannot turn this on.
The Connection button is only used to disconnect active data connections.
I ,along with some friends, have also been having problems with Orange's 3G the last few days (I just came back to the UK so I'm not sure how far back the problem started - my friends say its been like this for at least a week). Not sure if it is related though. Oh, I live in Essex.
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Check my first post for location.
In comm manager there is no option for 3G, the only other choice i can see is data connection, and i cannot turn this on.
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U can install advanced config tool, and there under menu u can choose the layout of the commanager(there u can put the 3G button on the screen). But it could be the above mention reason.
My problem just got more complicated.
Have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2606166
Hi alt236,
The strange thing is my unit has recently come back from repair, and the main board has been replaced, under warranty, because of a dodgy ROM flash, and the 3G still does not work.
Weird.
Have you tried with a different SIM card?
Ok, I just had a chat with Orange support. Thankfully I got a pretty helpful guy
Anyway, according to him, Orange does not fully support 3G yet (at least not officially) as only about 50% of their masts are 3G enabled. This means that they get network congestion problems causing devices not to connect or drop connections unexpectedly.
His advice was to try to connect at different times of the day, and to force the connection on the Kaiser (not to set it to auto).
As I live in an area with 4-5 3G masts immediately around me (yes, I know I will die from cancer ) its a bit weird for me to be unable to connect, but I'll give it another go, at a unsociable hour (4 in the morning for example) and see what happens then.
He did ask me if I wanted to get my phone tested though, so if it doesn't work tonight, I'll send it off and hope for the best.
Nice One alt236, that would explain the lack of 3G.
I will give it a go at different times of the day and see what happens.
Thnx
No luck with my overnight test.
I passed by an Orange shop in town this morning and I spoke with one of the staff members there.
He proposed that before I ship it out, I should call 156 which is technical support for data enquiries (MMS/WAP & WEB/Email) and PDA's as they can see what my phone is actually trying to do when connecting and push updated settings to it.
I've tried calling a couple of times today, but the queue is too long. I'll post back when I have news.
i have the exact same problem, please let me know what orange have to say!
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It use to work before I had Shaps Rom on mine, now resco apps wont work and on occasion Windows Live Messenger wont work. . . Some other apps are Skype, zsIRC, Coreplayer(Yes I have the 1.1.3 one), some others but you get the idea. What could be the problem? I have the right MEdia Net and AT&T ISP settings.
Anyone? What could the problem be?
It would probably help if you posted your set up, i.e. rom/radio/os versions...
Ah, well, I said shaps rom. And I have the radio ver: 1.27.12.17. It could be the radio, but now I am only getting edge speeds, when I am in a city with all 3G and edge in the suburbs and ghetto areas?
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Ah, well, I said shaps rom. And I have the radio ver: 1.27.12.17. It could be the radio, but now I am only getting edge speeds, when I am in a city with all 3G and edge in the suburbs and ghetto areas?
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oh? i thought schaps had more than one rom released.
with my current setup i haven't had any problems or complaints with edge or 3g.
so, how's your rom coming along?
Oh, lol thats what you meant. . . Its the 4.31 one. I dont know. I havent been able to use certian apps. . . and a moment ago it didnt have any connection and now it does and it jumps from edge to GSPA and then sometimes I cant have 3G back and when I do it messes everything up, like the carrier logo says AT&T 3G instead of regular AT&T and it would change the HSPDA symbol to 3G and sometimes its normal with the Hspda symbol? Why does it do that? Well I'm off to be its too late here anyways. ., it could be a network problem IDK but I hope it corrects it self in the morning.
What part of town are you in so maybe you could help me?
the band switching problem is my favorite. you are lucky to only get that now. try turning off your band setting from auto to either gsm or 3g, that worked for me. you could always change your radio and see if that helps.
oh, and your apps not working, ..... hard reset yet?
i'm generally all over town during the day, but i live near the uni.
although i don't know how much help i'd actually be.
Tried that and I don't want to start all over after 6 flashes(During the time I flashed to the shaps rom out of the time I've had it). Well, it works now. It could have been my area. UNLV? I am by the community college.
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Oh, lol thats what you meant. . . Its the 4.31 one. I dont know. I havent been able to use certian apps. . . and a moment ago it didnt have any connection and now it does and it jumps from edge to GSPA and then sometimes I cant have 3G back and when I do it messes everything up, like the carrier logo says AT&T 3G instead of regular AT&T and it would change the HSPDA symbol to 3G and sometimes its normal with the Hspda symbol? Why does it do that? Well I'm off to be its too late here anyways. ., it could be a network problem IDK but I hope it corrects it self in the morning.
What part of town are you in so maybe you could help me?
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Normal operation of HSDPA is this: In a 3G area the 3G icon will show. While data is being transferred the H icon will show. Once the data transfer is complete it will go back to the 3G icon. I think part of what you are describing is normal oeration.
-Jay
Well, no. My whole town is almost 3G, so I dont think its that and it would say HSPDA all the time even with out data transfers. I think the network had a hiccup yesterday. It only did the 3G icon thing when I would have been messing with the band selection(hasent happened lately it only happened 2 weeks ago).
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Well, no. My whole town is almost 3G, so I dont think its that and it would say HSPDA all the time even with out data transfers. I think the network had a hiccup yesterday. It only did the 3G icon thing when I would have been messing with the band selection(hasent happened lately it only happened 2 weeks ago).
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You should not be on H all the time, even when no data is being transferred. My phone got stuck like that once. A soft reset fixed it.
-Jay
Well not connected, all the time it just says [H], is there something wrong with that? I thought that was 3G? When ever the [3G] symbol comes on the carrier display area not the connectivity area says AT&T 3G and when its normal it just says AT&T.
I just took a trip for the weekend and much of the area i travelled thru didnt have cell service. However I found that when my phone was in a cell service area it wasnt making calls. here is the scenario...
driving down the highway, my cell isnt finding a signal, it sets itself to the airplane setting & thus calls cant be made, my wife's curve has a signal & she's on the phone, so i turn the phone back on & try to make a call...it ends my calls before it rings. i try to wait to see if its a timing issue, 10 minutes lapses, wife still on phone, i try to make a call, no go.
i had to cut my phone off & cut it back on to get the phone to work?? it recognized a signal as i had 1 bar of signal reception on the tilt and my wife's curve had 2 bars. but it'd never start a call. i'd see that it said calling, 3-5 secs later it said call ended...
anyone have any idea as to why this would happen or why i'd be required to restart everytime i leave a cell service area & reenter one? any fixes? i searched for my title & found no results...
Are you on 3G or GSM when it fails? If it's on 3G, you could have that problem, try to switch to GSM only and see if it's better.
kilrah said:
Are you on 3G or GSM when it fails? If it's on 3G, you could have that problem, try to switch to GSM only and see if it's better.
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well as far as i know we're not getting 3g until may...but i do drive towards a 3g network, so it may have been switching over to 3g prior to driving into the back country?
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Are you on 3G or GSM when it fails? If it's on 3G, you could have that problem, try to switch to GSM only and see if it's better.
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i checked & the phone is actually set to gsm only already...so this cant be the issue. any other thoughts?
Wish I had an answer, but my phone does the same thing. I must reset the phone to get a signal
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Wish I had an answer, but my phone does the same thing. I must reset the phone to get a signal
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what rom are you on? the 162 htc/att rom? bcuz i know now i am having a problem i wasnt before. because there is a building downtown that doesnt get cell service in it, and i frequent that building. i never had the issue on my original tilt on the 158 (i believe) rom, but this rma came w/ 162 rom & now im having the issue in that bldg too. which goes to further prove its not the 3g network theory. its just a matter of losing signal & then getting signal back where i am experiencing the issue.
thanks for any help.
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Wish I had an answer, but my phone does the same thing. I must reset the phone to get a signal
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I had/have(?) the same problem. Called ATT and got a replacement. Hopefully this fixes it.
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I had/have(?) the same problem. Called ATT and got a replacement. Hopefully this fixes it.
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please post the results...bcuz i hope i dont have to rma yet again!!!
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please post the results...bcuz i hope i dont have to rma yet again!!!
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Today was day one with the new tilt and it didn't have the problem. However, my old one wasn't consistent one way or the other, either, so I'll have to give the new one some time.
(work for at&t) New phone will not fix this problem, nothin wrong w/ phone. U need to go to a local corp store and change the SIM and get someone who knows what they r doing so they put all of the SIM updates while plugged into the comp. OTA updates will never work w/o these initial updates.
I have an issue where i'm connected to the net (GPRS/hdspa) and occasionally i will lose the connection whislt the connection is still active..
No internet functions will work even when i reconnect
I have to then restart the phone to be able to use the internet again
Not the same issue but something similar
Same problem here. It is not possible to establish a 3G connection. If I set the BAND in the telephone Settings to GSM the connection is stable. If try to establish a 3g connection all further connection trys will fail.
I already changed my Kaiser, it did not help.
Update:
T-mobile will sent me a new sim card. Hope this will help...
I just did a speed test with a 100K file and look how bad the results were:
36kb/sec
2.367 latency
22.066 d/l
Please advise!
Them's GPRS speeds.
What signal do you have?
Does your network support HSDPA?
Even if they do, is it enabled on your contract?
Speeds are affected by an awful lot more things than just what phone you have.... like how busy your network is in the area you're in. the more people online, the lower the speed you'll get.
Seems to me, you may just have a GPRS signal.
crap! I'm just on hold calling Orange now, just upgraded my call-plan so maybe HSDPA has not been activated yet...?
Just spoke to Orange and they said that as my sim card was only activated yesterday at 5:30pm, it's possible that 3G is not yet working on my sim even though it shows up as activated on their system. So I need to wait until tonight, then test again...
Any other Orange users have this happen to this? How annoying.
it's fairly normal.
The sheer amount of systems that need to be updated to get everything working is staggering.
It took t-mobile 3 days to get everything working correctly on my SIM.
It's normal in the UK sadly, just be patient and it will come.
I just spoke to another guy from Orange and he said that it should have been transferred by now and that I need to take the battery whilst the phone is on to do a soft reset - I thought pressing the little red button did a soft reset? If this doesn't work he wants me to call back to configure the internet settings manually...
Anyway, I shall wait. Just to be sure, aside from 3g being enabled on the phone there is nothing much else to do is there? When I switched it on after the rom upgrade it detected Orange settings and said it configured accordingly. Sometimes the symbol says 3g, somtimes it says G.
Is there anything I can do/check in the meantime to make sure this is a network issue for sure?
Sorry if this is long-winded.
Just press the little red button for a soft reset. You could check Settings - Connections - Advanced Network, if HSDPA/HSUPA is enabled. And if you can find the Orange mobile internet settings online, you can check Settings - Connections - Connections, to see if your Diamond's mobile internet connection settings are correct. Else call back to configure them manually. Once you're properly connected you should see the 3G or H icon. After that you can compare your results here, if you want. Please remember that your actual speed depends on a few factors, including your Radio version.. Good luck!
Thank you both for your kind help.I shall take into all into consideration. In the meantime, I shall wait until tonight (when everything should have been transfered to my sim).
S.
Hi all,
I am using my Diamond on the UK Orange network and am having constant problems with the data connectivity over GRPS/3G. I have the phone synced to our Exchange server and also have an IMAP email account. It is set to use push but I often find the active sync in "waiting for network" mode rather than connected. If I keep hitting "sync", it will eventually connect and get my mail. I also find frequently that Opera times out and my IMAP mails fails saying it cannot "connect to server". Other times I can see the data connection restart or just go missing. I thought it was just my handset but after looking at a few collegues with Diamoinds, also on Orange, they seem to have similar issues. I'm going to bring this up with Orange but wanted to see if anyone had any ideas.
We are all running the official Orange 1.93 Rom. (With us having replacement insurance I am not keep on flashing a non official ROM via HARDSPL. I've had four Diamond already due to various faults!)
Any advice would be appreciated. data is a business critivcal function for us and currently either Orange or the Diamond are letting us down.
Thanks!
Steve
stevebuk said:
Hi all,
I am using my Diamond on the UK Orange network and am having constant problems with the data connectivity over GRPS/3G. I have the phone synced to our Exchange server and also have an IMAP email account. It is set to use push but I often find the active sync in "waiting for network" mode rather than connected. If I keep hitting "sync", it will eventually connect and get my mail. I also find frequently that Opera times out and my IMAP mails fails saying it cannot "connect to server". Other times I can see the data connection restart or just go missing. I thought it was just my handset but after looking at a few collegues with Diamoinds, also on Orange, they seem to have similar issues. I'm going to bring this up with Orange but wanted to see if anyone had any ideas.
We are all running the official Orange 1.93 Rom. (With us having replacement insurance I am not keep on flashing a non official ROM via HARDSPL. I've had four Diamond already due to various faults!)
Any advice would be appreciated. data is a business critivcal function for us and currently either Orange or the Diamond are letting us down.
Thanks!
Steve
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Hi i am on orange in nottingham and i am having the same problem i am running a offical HTC rom 1.93 and i cannot get online just keeps cutting out the data connection, if you call orange and get an answer please PM me as i need this fixing cos its getting bad now no internet on my diamond
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YIPPY me 3!! i thought it was just me with 3G problems!!
i'm also having issues making video calls and surfing the www via the 3G on orange i have looked and looked for settings concerning 3G and it's coverage and i'm drawing a blank.
i've called orange too and was told there should be no reasons as to why i'm having so many problems with it, as all things were normal and correct as far as they could tell and my location nottingham has 3G masts all over infact i was in the middle of 3.
i was wondering what effect changing the network type would have from auto to GSM/WCDMA and changing the GSM/UMTS band from auto to one of the others listed (too lazy to type them all out )
are there any tweek tools out there which can booost the signal reception?? it does my nut in to see the 3G icon flash up and disappear as soon as i try to use any of the 3G functions..
I've been getting this problem the last week or so too. Very odd as it used to work perfectly.
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YIPPY me 3!! i thought it was just me with 3G problems!!
i'm also having issues making video calls and surfing the www via the 3G on orange i have looked and looked for settings concerning 3G and it's coverage and i'm drawing a blank.
i've called orange too and was told there should be no reasons as to why i'm having so many problems with it, as all things were normal and correct as far as they could tell and my location nottingham has 3G masts all over infact i was in the middle of 3.
i was wondering what effect changing the network type would have from auto to GSM/WCDMA and changing the GSM/UMTS band from auto to one of the others listed (too lazy to type them all out )
are there any tweek tools out there which can booost the signal reception?? it does my nut in to see the 3G icon flash up and disappear as soon as i try to use any of the 3G functions..
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i would say that it is an orange problem and them being them dont want to admit it cos it would proberly cost them customers and money
Problem with Diamond GPRS
Hello all,
I live in Tehran, Iran and I use Irancell network operator.
GPRS is available in this network and I could use it on my old cell phones such as SonyEricsson W810 and Nokia N81. But now I have HTC Touch Diamond and when I try to connect it to GPRS it tooks a long time to connect, showing "Connecting" but after a while it cannot connect!
Everything is OK, all settings, etc. I called Irancell but they say your phone is not compatible our network!
I think there must be a way to use this networks GRPS on my Diamond!
The first reason that made my buy this cell phone was its Internet capabilities...
and I know this networks use the same settings as South Africa Network Operator.
If anyone can help, please tell me.
Thanks.
Sounds more like a network problem than a handset problem imo. I hope I am not tempting fate but I have not had any problems with data connections on UK T-mobile. That said, I get a weaker signal than I do on my old MDA Compact III handset so I think part of the problem could be the internal aerial
The bottom line for me is that the Diamond is a good but flawed phone. ****e battery life and too clever, compact, aestheticaly pleasing for its own good
You get a very quick GPS fix for Google maps and sat nag though
Apologies for going off at a tangent
I'm on Orange, also in Nottingham and have been having this problem for the last week or so too.
Must be a network problem. I have to tap on the "H" connection icon, tap Disconnect and try again.
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...The bottom line for me is that the Diamond is a good but flawed phone. ****e battery life and too clever, compact, aestheticaly pleasing for its own good
You get a very quick GPS fix for Google maps and sat nag though
Apologies for going off at a tangent
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I agree that it's flawed, the biggest problem being battery life. The next biggest problem is that TF3D seems to be incredibly poor and half-finished. My solution is not to use it, that way you have a normal old-style WM phone but smaller, sleeker and faster with a VGA screen. HTH
Im all good here
nlnasty said:
YIPPY me 3!! i thought it was just me with 3G problems!!
i'm also having issues making video calls and surfing the www via the 3G on orange i have looked and looked for settings concerning 3G and it's coverage and i'm drawing a blank.
i've called orange too and was told there should be no reasons as to why i'm having so many problems with it, as all things were normal and correct as far as they could tell and my location nottingham has 3G masts all over infact i was in the middle of 3.
i was wondering what effect changing the network type would have from auto to GSM/WCDMA and changing the GSM/UMTS band from auto to one of the others listed (too lazy to type them all out )
are there any tweek tools out there which can booost the signal reception?? it does my nut in to see the 3G icon flash up and disappear as soon as i try to use any of the 3G functions..
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I have a orange Diamond and live in cheshire, i have never had one problem with connecting to data services, always get a strong signal.
My phone is running duttys rom 2.3a (there are newer virsions, time of writing 2.7rc2) and the latest radio BS14, That radio is very quick at switching from Gprs, 3G and HSDPA, it has also increased my signal strenth a tad. its worth looking at that.Other than changing these, knowing orange it could be there network, it happens from time to time.
i have considered flashing my phone with a new ROM but since i've never done this type of thing before, i'm worried i'll end up creating a nice looking paper weight and with all the ROM's out there how do know which is best??
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hi i have a touch diamond orange variety and when i travel to scarborough uk i dont get calls and will just get a txt 2hrs late saying missed call and i cant send msgs out.
ive tried my htc tytn 2 and thats the same and i tried my bros omnia and thats the same.
i was wondering if anyone else had same problem either in scarborough or anywhere else on orange uk?
ive tried numerous different radios etc
thanks for any help
rich
I'm on Orange in the UK and swapped to 3G as soon as I did I couldn't make any calls, turned out all my Phone settings were changed. On the services tab check Call Barring, Call Forwarding etc. I've gone back to my old sim only because the receiption for 3G was rubbish in my area. Hope you have better luck. tallen3
What do Orange have to say about it?
They blamed the phone, I managed to change the settings myself, Orange were less than helpful but probably about average for a phone company.
I was asking the OP!
But yes, unless you can actually see the mast with your naked eye 3G reception is a known issue with the Diamond. I have set mine to GSM only.
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But yes, unless you can actually see the mast with your naked eye 3G reception is a known issue with the Diamond. I have set mine to GSM only.
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Orange 3G works fine for me without seeing the mast - even indoors. But that can't be the problem because if 3G reception is to weak or not available then it should revert to GPRS or Edge automatically and will still allow calls.
To the OP - is it all of Scarborough or just particular parts? Does it happen anywhere else in the UK?
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Orange 3G works fine for me without seeing the mast - even indoors. But that can't be the problem because if 3G reception is to weak or not available then it should revert to GPRS or Edge automatically and will still allow calls.
To the OP - is it all of Scarborough or just particular parts? Does it happen anywhere else in the UK?
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The problem I have with 3G on my Orange Diamond is that although the phone just clings onto 3G indoors (about 1 mile from the nearest 3G mast) it drops down onto GSM as soon as I make a call - with associated momentary call interference - and drains the battery a lot quicker on standby (I'm syncing with Exchange every 15 mins 07:00-17:15 Mon-Fri).
If I'm 50 yards away from the mast I get HSDPA, which is handy when I'm in my car queueing at the tip, not...
hi i finally had a call from orange they now say its scarborough that doesnt have enough 3g masts and they have planning permission in for some more.
its strange everywhere else is fine even when i have lower 3g signal than scarborough.
they recommend i leave my handset on auto which doesnt work so was told everytime i go to scarborough manually turn phone to 2g.
not a perfect soloution, and i wonder why scarborough is like that? ever since they activated the hsdpa.
thanks for all the comments and suggestions.
If your phone won't auto switch between the two then it is faulty and Orange should sort it out shouldn't they? Or is it not their phone?
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If your phone won't auto switch between the two then it is faulty and Orange should sort it out shouldn't they? Or is it not their phone?
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well it does switch between but i have a two bar 3g signal and it doesnt work for calls as explained and therefore wont switch to 2g.
thanks for all your help btw its not just my fone its most win mobile fones that my family and friends have.