Been a lurker for a while now. This is worthy of my first post. I found a flash 10.1 apk and it works. Not incredibly fast for flash games but it does work. I cant post links but I think you can figure it out.
getandroidstuff.com/2010/06/adobe-flash-101-full-support-for.html
Now I did not make this and don't know who did so use at your own risk. I have only been playing with it for a day and haven't seen any ill effects yet. All I know is it works.
" Android 2.2 comes with the new feature for full flash support. Here how it's work google just integrated a plugin called com.google.android.feature.GOOGLE_PLUGIN. And Flash uses it to embed itself inside browser. So browser in android 2.1 mobile phones does not see plugin. Now if you are owner of Android 2.1 or 2.0 smartphone then download the Adobe Flash 10.1 apk application below and get full flash support for your Android 2.1 or 2.0 mobiles.
BUT!There's another thing inside - a permission called android.webkit.permission.PLUGIN. It is already used by Flash Lite on HTC devices. So this app will replace the lite version of flash and will work with full feature.
Or get it here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6569529&postcount=16
razr315 said:
This totally broke my browser using CM6 RC1
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Same here. I have since uninstalled, and I'm back.
The website speaks of this being for 2.1.
No wonder it doesn't work for a froyo rom.
The real question is when can we get flash on cm6 rc1???
I installed flash 10.1 from 4shared and after I tried it, i couldnt stay in the browser for long without it closing right back out.
I uninstalled it and it was fine.
apollostees said:
Same here. I have since uninstalled, and I'm back.
The website speaks of this being for 2.1.
No wonder it doesn't work for a froyo rom.
The real question is when can we get flash on cm6 rc1???
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currently the working adobe flash 10.1 release is primarily working only on devices bearing the "snapdragon" ARM processors... so when we're trying to force install this onto our devices it is either crashing, or not even allowing the install.
The flash 10.1 currently doesn't even allow the 1ghz hummingbird... its all a matter of time before a "general" release is going to be available. (i'm assuming)
I believe i've seen it said before and i quote;
"Adobe and Google working together to bring Flash player to a mobile device needs to be considered a "sensitive" port, unwelcome criticism on whether or not it will be necessary or whether this will start a revolution for future devices to follow depends on the ability to have Flash functioning flawlessly on the Android platform"
This means that all those Apple boys & gals who say "flash is pointless" yada yada... can't say "SEE THATS WHY FLASH IS USELESS" (implying that it will not work)
just my 2 pennies worth.
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currently the working adobe flash 10.1 release is primarily working only on devices bearing the "snapdragon" ARM processors... so when we're trying to force install this onto our devices it is either crashing, or not even allowing the install.
The flash 10.1 currently doesn't even allow the 1ghz hummingbird... its all a matter of time before a "general" release is going to be available. (i'm assuming)
I believe i've seen it said before and i quote;
"Adobe and Google working together to bring Flash player to a mobile device needs to be considered a "sensitive" port, unwelcome criticism on whether or not it will be necessary or whether this will start a revolution for future devices to follow depends on the ability to have Flash functioning flawlessly on the Android platform"
This means that all those Apple boys & gals who say "flash is pointless" yada yada... can't say "SEE THATS WHY FLASH IS USELESS" (implying that it will not work)
just my 2 pennies worth.
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I didn't bother reading that whole post, primarily because I saw that you said that Flash wasn't pointless, but you are slightly incorrect.
The Slide's processor = ARM6
Requirement for Flash 10.1 = ARM7
IQ drop associated with mobile Flash = 72
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I didn't bother reading that whole post, primarily because I saw that you said that Flash wasn't pointless, but you are slightly incorrect.
The Slide's processor = ARM6
Requirement for Flash 10.1 = ARM7
IQ drop associated with mobile Flash = 72
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Notice I said "snapdragon" and not just ARM, also flash in mobile is more of preference rather than necessity... hence the reason it can, or cannot be downloaded even with devices that are able to install it.
(and yes I do understand another reason for 3rd party install is to push updates without the need for a full firmware update)
Myself I personally like the idea of flash operating on a mobile device due to having my work email, which is primarily flash driven being able to access it with my personal phone. Using stock sense 2.1, I was able to do so, with Froyo on slide I'm unable to do so. (so back to the PC for me now)
So, as far as an IQ drop with the association of flash... if you have a mobile piece of software effecting your physical abilities then you really have a true issue, that needs immediate medical attention.
I just want to have the damn option of being able to use it.
is there any way to get the flash from the stock rom onto cm6
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is there any way to get the flash from the stock rom onto cm6
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I'm pretty sure Flash lite only works for sense
I think the only reason I would ever need full Flash support would be for Robot Unicorn Attack and maybe some physicsgames.net.
I still agree with the number one reason for people to have flash is for them to watch porn. Do not argue about the statment i just said, you and i both know its true.
But with the new info about higher-end phones soon to have divx support in the flash well thats just amazing. Of course without great service your pretty much screwed but say we had great service as well as the opportunity to use this feature wouldn't you take advantage of this at work on break and watch some movies and what not? I sure would.
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I still agree with the number one reason for people to have flash is for them to watch porn. Do not argue about the statment i just said, you and i both know its true.
But with the new info about higher-end phones soon to have divx support in the flash well thats just amazing. Of course without great service your pretty much screwed but say we had great service as well as the opportunity to use this feature wouldn't you take advantage of this at work on break and watch some movies and what not? I sure would.
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Most porn sites have MP4 streaming LOL
PcFish said:
Most porn sites have MP4 streaming LOL
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The ones that don't are the the ones they want flash for.
I still agree with the number one reason for people to have flash is for them to watch porn. Do not argue about the statment i just said, you and i both know its true.
But with the new info about higher-end phones soon to have divx support in the flash well thats just amazing. Of course without great service your pretty much screwed but say we had great service as well as the opportunity to use this feature wouldn't you take advantage of this at work on break and watch some movies and what not? I sure would.
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what about shockwave games and embeded videos other than porn. HULU! I personally dont use my desktop except for running large programs like adobe and for large downloads
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Buddatearz said:
what about shockwave games and embeded videos other than porn. HULU! I personally dont use my desktop except for running large programs like adobe and for large downloads
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Hulu will work if we can get 10.1 Froyo, but as of right now idk if we'll see that.
Doesn't Hulu block mobile phones anyway?
I thought they set it up so you have to buy Hulu+ like on the PS3.
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Doesn't Hulu block mobile phones anyway?
I thought they set it up so you have to buy Hulu+ like on the PS3.
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They have an android app out thats works on the high end phones, was told it works but never tried it (seeing as i dont have highend phone)
You pervs stop the porn thing, that's probably the reason we don't get full flash!
And flash games?? Are you kidding!!! Don't waste time on those crappy-ass games!
There are many other reasongs why would we want full flash,
Has anyone thought of the streaming tv viewing channels ability! Or streams of radio stations, which some work over flash player 10.1
One could watch Live TV!!!
Think of the real benefits of flash.
Well, stock flash on 2.1 works with many sites with medium/small flash videos, but not Live Streams...
One of the reasongs why I won't flash a Froyo rom, I want Sense and Flash!
Just my opinion
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A good temporary solution, anyone ever try Skyfire browser?
It works great with most streaming websites.
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All I'm looking for is a standard flash player that would play .flv, .swf and h.264 files from video channels like YouTube, Vimeo, Exposure Room, etc...
They all use a standard flash player which streams, or downloads the files so it shouldn't be that difficult to implement I would think.
The Hero rom has already shown a flash player that works, basically as a plugin to the browser, so there must be a way to port it to the other roms.
I'd like to see this too.
wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.
I found the Hero one to be usable, but only just. The sound seems ok, but the picture is a bit stuttery. It will be interesting to see if it's really the old hardware used in the Hero that's not up to it, or whether a differnt app can do better. I hear that the beebplayer is also poor on the Hero - not tried it yet - so perhaps it's the hardware?
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wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.
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can you please provide a link to this article?
there is one check the market
Yeah, I had no luck what so ever trying to play video from any of the top video sharing websites, due to the fact that the player version was 8.0. I did however have great success with viewing flash-based websites (typically exported as Flash 8 or earlier for compatibility).
That is going to be an issue that the Flash player will have to contend with when it is released in October. The player will have to be updated regularly everytime a new version of Flash comes out. Hopefully Adobe will stay on top of that, or the player will become obsolete very quickly.
I hope you don't mean the Android7 Flash Player in the market?
http://www.cyrket.com/package/org.android7.flashplayer
It will play an .flv and what not, but you would have to have the file locally on your phone.
It isn't a browser-based solution where you can click on a video link and then launch the player to begin streaming, or downloading the video like you can with the YouTube player.
That is what we need, only for any website that is hosting a flash-based video. Either that, or these websites have to begin offering free downloads of the original uploaded videos.
We saw a sneak peak of what's to come with the flash-enabled Hero rom, but like we all know, that is only for version 8.
Actually, the Flash Player in Hero is so far pretty sufficient, it actually can play YouTube videos, you just have to click on the video itself and it will open in the Flash player.
However, I do agree, further development would be nice. For example, when on sites like Myspace, I would like to hear some profile music playing, it would just in total add to the whole "internet phone" concept.
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http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/
the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol
makes me sad...
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
Flash, being proprietary closed source crap, is contrary to the nature of android. Adobe has in the past been VERY slow in supporting new platforms, so quite frankly, it really should die altogether. There are plenty of open source alternatives for flash-type content that can be used instead. Instead of complaining here, you should complain to the content provider who chose to use that crap format.
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can you please provide a link to this article?
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http://gizmodo.com/5300800/flash-for-android-webos-landing-in-october
tuto0503 said:
the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol
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hulu blocked mobile devices. so no phone can veiw hulu anymore. i dont know why they would do that but sadly they did
kyleds said:
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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if it was a winmo phone then he can do it because he was using skyfire. his phone doesnt have flash but skyfires servers do.
skyfire uses proxy servers to intercept browser requests which are then compressed and sent to skyfire enabled phones. the proxy server technology has the smarts to take flash video/games, java and other desktop class features that normally slow down mobile browsers dramatically, if those features are even supported, and render them correctly, truly giving mobile users flash.
The one on hero is pretty good, you can play games on sites and stuff, but looking forward to 10 coming out
kyleds said:
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.
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Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.
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not sure, I'll ask him though.
Froyo just hit AOSP and im curious if were actually gonna get Adobe Flash with our unofficial 2.2 roms?
http://androidandme.com/2010/02/news/no-flash-10-1-for-1st-gen-android-phones/
Even with all our Dev's and stuff? Dang that shatters my dreams.
I don't understand the obsession.. Proprietary crap like Flash shouldn't be anywhere near an open, progressive platform like Android.
Boycott this nonsense and support open web standards.
Besides we already have skyfire. It lets you watch flash videos on the internet. Games suck on the internet with flash and the controls are little sketchy.
Aznneedlovetoo said:
Froyo just hit AOSP and im curious if were actually gonna get Adobe Flash with our unofficial 2.2 roms?
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Define "unofficial".
Fortunately, no, there will be no flash.
And that is a VERY VERY GOOD THING.
With the newer phones, I doubt very much that google actually WANTS flash on android, but being open source, it is impossible to STOP. It would also LOOK BAD on them for blocking it.
i doubt there will be flash for it...
Aznneedlovetoo said:
Even with all our Dev's and stuff? Dang that shatters my dreams.
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The Devs on these forums have amazed me time and time again doing things that "weren't possible," but judging by that article the processor just can't handle it. Kinda like Flash on Apple stuff. haha Burn!
lbcoder said:
Define "unofficial".
Fortunately, no, there will be no flash.
And that is a VERY VERY GOOD THING.
With the newer phones, I doubt very much that google actually WANTS flash on android, but being open source, it is impossible to STOP. It would also LOOK BAD on them for blocking it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY3U2GXhz44
They talk about wanting to implement Flash into Froyo.
Macrophage001 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY3U2GXhz44
They talk about wanting to implement Flash into Froyo.
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TALK doesn't mean WANT.
Would it make sense to YOU to talk AGAINST THE RETARDED GRAIN when your SALES depend on it?
Macrophage001 said:
Besides we already have skyfire. It lets you watch flash videos on the internet. Games suck on the internet with flash and the controls are little sketchy.
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But i like Farmville
goldenarmZ said:
I don't understand the obsession.. Proprietary crap like Flash shouldn't be anywhere near an open, progressive platform like Android.
Boycott this nonsense and support open web standards.
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I really couldn't agree more, We've yet to see a decent implementation of it yet on.... any platform...?
Maybe it is possible. The question is - do you really want/need it on g1? This phone isn't beast anymore. I bet that heavy flash website (well, even lite flash sites ) would run incredibly slow and the g1 would run out of RAM in seconds.
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Maybe it is possible. The question is - do you really want/need it on g1? This phone isn't beast anymore. I bet that heavy flash website (well, even lite flash sites ) would run incredibly slow and the g1 would run out of RAM in seconds.
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Even the GN1 will run out of RAM very quickly with flashbloat.
Hell, even a desktop with 16GB RAM will run out of RAM easily with flashbloat.
Flash is completely overrated. There's absolutely no REASONABLE need for it on your phone.
Sometimes it takes a little PAIN to train the world out of stupid mistakes.
This is one of them.
The more people REJECT flash, the more web developers will start to realize that it ISN'T a viable product, and therefore they won't use it.
Minus the phone obviously...
But what I mean is the OS just like the phones OS? like browser, market etc?
I only got to play with one in bestbuy for like 30 seconds...
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Minus the phone obviously...
But what I mean is the OS just like the phones OS? like browser, market etc?
I only got to play with one in bestbuy for like 30 seconds...
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No camera or gps cababilities
In many ways it is like a big phone with the obvious thing left out, but if you want to read (books, email, or anything) it holds many advantages. I have had mine for a week and I love it!
As stated, yes for the jist of it, it is like an Android phone without cellular capability. But the screen is much larger, the display blows the phone away, the speed surprisingly seems faster, mainly because you aren't on a phone you are on a device you can stretch your hand out on. The density is much larger so more icon capability on the screen, not limited like on a phone. It just freaking is insane how much nicer it is. I had no idea I would love it as much as I do, haven't even looked at the EVO threads in awhile heh.
But Android 2.1 is the same on phones/NC right? I've only used my incredible, so im not sure. Like the same settings I set on my phone as far as display and the apps I use can be used on the NC?
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But Android 2.1 is the same on phones/NC right? I've only used my incredible, so im not sure. Like the same settings I set on my phone as far as display and the apps I use can be used on the NC?
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Stock software is 2.1, most likely your Incredible is 2.2, the only noticeable difference between 2.1 and 2.2 is Flash support and 2.2 is a little faster normally when it is fully setup properly, but doubt you will notice that on the NC it is very fast for what it is. Other than that I highly doubt you will notice too much difference between them. There are apps that won't show up in the market cuz you aren't 2.2 but that doesn't mean you can't manually download and install them.
No GPS, no BT, no cellular capabilities. That's it. The screen is bigger and it reeks of win. I'll be honest, I laughed when the iPad came out because it just looked like an oversized iTouch and who in their right mind would want one of those. I was obviously dead wrong (happens frequently to me) and the NC is a better tablet IMO.
Actually the NC has BT chipset just not enabled, the devs are working on that. And making headway! So ideally we will have BT capability before long hopefully!
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As stated, yes for the jist of it, it is like an Android phone without cellular capability. But the screen is much larger, the display blows the phone away, the speed surprisingly seems faster, mainly because you aren't on a phone you are on a device you can stretch your hand out on. The density is much larger so more icon capability on the screen, not limited like on a phone. It just freaking is insane how much nicer it is. I had no idea I would love it as much as I do, haven't even looked at the EVO threads in awhile heh.
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Personally, I think the NC & the Evo go hand in hand!!! BTW, I haven't looked at the Evo thread in a while either!!!
It acts almost completely like a cellphone minus the actual phone. So if youre comfortable with an android phone you will be comfortable here too. If youre not, the NC is a fairly good device to get used to it as there is a ton of support here and the bigger screen is pretty nice.
Just get used to not having a camera (no barcoding), no GPS (at least there's wifi location), BT (for now its unavailable), flashlight (big whoop), microphone (no secretly recording people or making voice commands), no Wireless data besides wifi (tether!).
But that's why everyone should have a ROOTED Android phone (preferably HTC) to accompany their ROOTED NC.
It just doesnt have flash support which makes video watching somewhat of a hassle
There is Flash support? I went to facebook and tried playing a video straight from there, it says i need flash. So i was actually able to click the link to Adobe and it opened and i selected to dnld the file. It isn't finding a program though to open the file so that's where i'm stuck.
Also, i was on other sites and clicked video links to youtube, the tube site won't play videos either, it gives the same link to Adobe where i have dnld'd the flash file. Is this the correct way on N.C. to get flash? If yes, how should i dnld flash. The extension was strange also. Aaaaaand of course i can't find where the file is. Can't get on wi-fi here at office to go grab Astro real fast to find it. I can reply later with that detail if need be.
thanks in advance if anyone has solution to getting Flash.
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There is Flash support?
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There is for Nookie Froyo, stock which is 2.1 doesn't/hasn't/can't do flash, the whole reason people were after 2.2 for everything.
Now the flash isn't good lol but overclocked to 1.1ghz its watchable.
sent From a NC on eMMC Froyo
It'll be cool when B&N gives us a stock 2.2 ROM so that we can get froyo (and flash) and keep all the B&N features.
Also, when we get a full version of honeycomb when that is officially released, there is no stopping this little guy. The fact that this community has made this much progress in such a short time with so little to work with is truly amazing.
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There is for Nookie Froyo, stock which is 2.1 doesn't/hasn't/can't do flash, the whole reason people were after 2.2 for everything.
Now the flash isn't good lol but overclocked to 1.1ghz its watchable.
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That's what i have, via auto nooter process. Now i'm not at the heights of overclocking yet, but should flash be available to me without having to grab it from the web? thx for replying.
The following is a hack to get hulu.com working with the latest Adobe Flash Player 10.3.185.23 for the Motorola XOOM Tablet which consists of a hack of
/data/data/com.adobe.flashplayer/lib/libflashplayer.so by hex editing AND 10,3,185,23 to WIN 99,9,999,99 so it will work with HULU.
Using the apk - uninstall any existing Adobe Flash Player from your device before installing the new apk.
After you apply the above, to get this working, make sure to set your browser User Agent string to Desktop. With the stock Android browser and probably other browsers excluding the Dolphin browser, you might have to do this each time you run any flash based site including hulu.com or start the browser:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686765
Newer versions will be posted towards the end of the thread.
what is hulu?
TY for developing this, but I think this would be better place in apps
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monyozt said:
what is hulu?
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Was that a real question?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulu
bwcorvus said:
TY for developing this, but I think this would be better place in apps
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Oops! Completely forgot there were multiple XOOM forums!
Does this work without root?
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Was that a real question?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulu
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Obviously.
Although the real question here is, what is sarcasm?
What am I missing? It doesn't work. Hulu doesn't even recognize flash with this hack. I must be doing something wrong. But what? I removed original flash, loaded this hack flash apk and about:debug to read as desktop the with no luck. Help!?
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laggy / choppy playback??
Thanks for updating this, but am I still the only one experiencing very sub par playback (choppy/laggy) with this hack? I highly doubt it is my internet connection , so what gives?? I mean the hack works, but I would hardly call it useable by any means. I'd feel a little better if more people were experiencing the same thing.
KScribble said:
What am I missing? It doesn't work. Hulu doesn't even recognize flash with this hack. I must be doing something wrong. But what? I removed original flash, loaded this hack flash apk and about:debug to read as desktop the with no luck. Help!?
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Works fine on rooted wifi 3.1
Works fine with rooted 3.1 and tiamat oc1.7
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madmak said:
Does this work without root?
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It should since that's the purpose of a apk.
joeski27 said:
Thanks for updating this, but am I still the only one experiencing very sub par playback (choppy/laggy) with this hack? I highly doubt it is my internet connection , so what gives?? I mean the hack works, but I would hardly call it useable by any means. I'd feel a little better if more people were experiencing the same thing.
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Even though I am the author of this hack, I know what you're referring to since this hack originally was done for phone devices and while it works for everyone else and even others with the Motorola Droid 1, when I use it on the Droid 1, I have the same problem as you and not only that, the flash process will get killed with the browser after a minute or two. Are you using 3G or WiFi?
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Even though I am the author of this hack, I know what you're referring to since this hack originally was done for phone devices and while it works for everyone else and even others with the Motorola Droid 1, when I use it on the Droid 1, I have the same problem as you and not only that, the flash process will get killed with the browser after a minute or two. Are you using 3G or WiFi?
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Thanks for covering it this time. I saw it drop but was a little busy . Good looking out
Awesome!
Thanks!! ;D
bigrushdog said:
Thanks for covering it this time. I saw it drop but was a little busy . Good looking out
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No problem BRD, I used to do only the libflashplayer.so hack for the past 6+ months and didn't know how to replace files in a apk and I didn't have a Xoom until the end of May so all modified apk's I have tested on my p3droid rooted stock ROM for the Motorola Droid 1 have always resulted in youtube and hulu acting as if flash was not installed, so for that, only replacing libflashplayer.so manually works. What's more funny is that even though I posted my libflashplayer.so on droid-life.com whenever there is a new version of flash, no one seems to recognize it until you made it available on the Xoom when it was mentioned on both droid-life.com and PCWorld. I usually will post the update within minutes to hours after I am aware of it which is usually within the same day except it's time consuming to be updating 1/2 a dozen threads on xda about the new flash with the hack after I test it on 3 different devices (Motorola Droid 1 using the libflashplayer.so, Motorola XOOM after patching and signing the apk with the libflashplayer.so after it works on the Droid 1, and then the HP eStation Zeen Tablet with both the market apk as it doesn't have market access and the libflashplayer.so) to make sure it works before releasing it to the world.
Almighty1 said:
Even though I am the author of this hack, I know what you're referring to since this hack originally was done for phone devices and while it works for everyone else and even others with the Motorola Droid 1, when I use it on the Droid 1, I have the same problem as you and not only that, the flash process will get killed with the browser after a minute or two. Are you using 3G or WiFi?
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I only ever use wifi (I own a 3g model but do not have 3g activated). And my desktop imac uses the same wireless internet connection and the same hulu video is smooth and flawless, so my internet connection isn't the issue.
What is bugging me the most is that I've repeatedly made comments about the crappiness of the playback and yet virtually no one so much has acknowledged me. Making me feel as though I'm the one and only person having these problems...or that no one else is being even remotely critical of the video quality. To me, "just works" does not necessarily mean its worth using.
I don't have a Xoom, but a Nexus One. Performance has always been crappy on my device. Flash says the video has not been optimized for mobile. I tend to believe them. Looks like the video is not being hardware decoded for some reason or another.
any ideas why opera mobile might fail to recognize this? getting no flash at all, but it works fine with flash from market...
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I only ever use wifi (I own a 3g model but do not have 3g activated). And my desktop imac uses the same wireless internet connection and the same hulu video is smooth and flawless, so my internet connection isn't the issue.
What is bugging me the most is that I've repeatedly made comments about the crappiness of the playback and yet virtually no one so much has acknowledged me. Making me feel as though I'm the one and only person having these problems...or that no one else is being even remotely critical of the video quality. To me, "just works" does not necessarily mean its worth using.
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While a Desktop imac uses the same wireless connection, remember the processing power of a mobile device will still be lacking compared to a actual computer. Even though they might both be wireless, the wireless chipset makes a difference too when it comes to latency, etc since Broadcom used in the Xoom isn't exactly a good chipset when you compare it to things like Atheros, Lucent/Agere. My desktop being a Pentium 4-3.2Ghz is actually slower than my Xoom and even my Droid 1 because for whatever reason, in 2009, the hardware just started getting really sluggish so the only way to even play flash is to pause it until the entire video is in the buffer, this is on a 6Mbps ADSL connection which works without issues with even my friends Netbooks when playing flash. Do you have the same problem with the market version without applying the hack since I don't know what BRD modified in his hack but in mines, it's just the version string so everything else is untouched and it should work exactly the same since there is no reverse engineering of the code or decompiling involved. The Xoom atleast works in my case unlike my Droid 1 which is basically suffering from the same thing you claim except on the Droid 1, all of a sudden, it will just exit back to the home screen all of a sudden, no one else seems to have that problem either. Adobe Flash itself is a CPU resource hog and it seemed to be better when it was Macromedia Flash. Lots of people or the general public out there doesn't really know what quality is or they just don't have something of reference quality to compare it to. Same thing when people buy audio/video equipment, audiophiles/videophiles like myself are picky while some people out there will just think anything is good based on the pricing or how expensive something is.
It's hard to find much discussion about ICS and flash player. Basically, from what I've found, there is no hardware acceleration. For me, it's important that it function at least as well as Gingerbread allowed.
I had LPY flashed for a day, but didn't have time to test the following. LPY was silky smooth, and I was getting amazing battery life, but choppy flash video on some sites killed it for me. However, I am safely and successfully back on GB, LC1, Darky. Originally flashed back to stock-rootable GB through ODIN, rooted, then applied Darky in CWM..for anyone that cares. Rocking 240 density, LauncherEX, DialerEX, loving all the extra real-estate. Too bad NoteCore0.1 refused to allow density changes!
Has anyone had any improvement forcing HW acceleration?
How about 2D GPU Rendering in Dev Options?
Maxthon Browser for 10" Tab? (Transformer Prime forums indicated this particular release of this particular browser has some magic property that runs flash correctly)
Does anyone care enough? Work-arounds? Where would the central ICS Flash Player discussion be?
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It's hard to find much discussion about ICS and flash player. Basically, from what I've found, there is no hardware acceleration. For me, it's important that it function at least as well as Gingerbread allowed.
I had LPY flashed for a day, but didn't have time to test the following. LPY was silky smooth, and I was getting amazing battery life, but choppy flash video on some sites killed it for me. However, I am safely and successfully back on GB, LC1, Darky. Originally flashed back to stock-rootable GB through ODIN, rooted, then applied Darky in CWM..for anyone that cares. Rocking 240 density, LauncherEX, DialerEX, loving all the extra real-estate. Too bad NoteCore0.1 refused to allow density changes!
Has anyone had any improvement forcing HW acceleration?
How about 2D GPU Rendering in Dev Options?
Maxthon Browser for 10" Tab? (Transformer Prime forums indicated this particular release of this particular browser has some magic property that runs flash correctly)
Does anyone care enough? Work-arounds? Where would the central ICS Flash Player discussion be?
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same problem here, and there are a lot of comments in the market regarding this! also the 2d hardware acceleration does not change this "flash-desaster"...
Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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zacthespack said:
Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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First of all, you simply cannot do everything in HTML5 that you can do in Flash! Whilst the functionality gap is getting smaller all the time, it isn't currently zero.
Secondly, there are several very popular websites across the globe that still rely on Flash. For example, BBC iPlayer, which is used extensively in the UK, uses Flash to deliver content.
Flash may well be dying, but it isn't dead yet!
Regards,
Dave
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Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
11.1.115.8 - is for Android 4.x.x
foxmeister said:
First of all, you simply cannot do everything in HTML5 that you can do in Flash! Whilst the functionality gap is getting smaller all the time, it isn't currently zero.
Secondly, there are several very popular websites across the globe that still rely on Flash. For example, BBC iPlayer, which is used extensively in the UK, uses Flash to deliver content.
Flash may well be dying, but it isn't dead yet!
Regards,
Dave
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Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
11.1.115.8 - is for Android 4.x.x
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
And from what I know about the only things html5 cant do is interact with a web cam and dosnt have DRM support
I don't know where I've read but Samsung or android // Google wants to move on to html5 (aka to drop flash support), like Apple did a long time ago.
Yes, html5 is better from resorce-consuming point of view, but still a lot of websites use flash.
We only hope that more websites will move to html5-based animations in future.
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Especially Korean drama streaming sites.
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anonymous572 said:
Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
11.1.115.8 - is for Android 4.x.x
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Yes, I want it for the random site I'm bound to come across.
How lame is it when you say you have the latest technology, then when a friend or family asks you to check out some website on it, then it doesn't work, because it doesn't support flash, a technology so old....well, ya it's old! My old windows mobile phone played some of theses ICS problem sites just fine! That's not cool.
I'm back on GB, 11.1.111.9. I'm pretty sure when I was on LPY, it was version 11.1.115.8. I know I uninstalled it, and re-installed it from the market. This fixed the original blue box missing plugin scenario, but now we have the chop. Also, a few articles saying Adobe is stealthy releasing 11.2 seems to be a lie because I can't find any apk's OR market review with 11.2.
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
And from what I know about the only things html5 cant do is interact with a web cam and dosnt have DRM support
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Nice! I didn't think of skyfire but actually that's what it took to make my WM phone play back in the day. Is been a while.
As soon as this ICS bug is squashed, I will probably flash it and give skyfire a go. For the most part I can live without some video, but it looks really tacky when you want to show it off if it's broken.
Here is a read:
http://thenextweb.com/dd/2012/05/22...nds-of-times-slower-on-mobile-devices-report/
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
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Personally, I don't think much of Skyfire as a browser, and its "Flash" video support is flakey at best in my experience - with iPlayer, I more often than not get a "media error".
Skyfire is a great solution if you don't have native Flash, but when you do it just doesn't cut it IMO.
I wish that the BBC hadn't used Flash for their Android iPlayer implementation, especially when they could've just tweaked the containers for their iOS streams to support both Android and iOS simultaneously. It certainly looks like a remarkably short sighted decision given that Adobe is dropping Flash support for mobile.
Regards,
Dave
Personally I'll be glad when Flash dies, for lots of reasons, but understand why it's a pain right now.
As for the BBC iPlayer comments; I've no problem at all on LPY with the app. Am I just not fussy enough?
foxmeister said:
Personally, I don't think much of Skyfire as a browser, and its "Flash" video support is flakey at best in my experience - with iPlayer, I more often than not get a "media error".
Skyfire is a great solution if you don't have native Flash, but when you do it just doesn't cut it IMO.
I wish that the BBC hadn't used Flash for their Android iPlayer implementation, especially when they could've just tweaked the containers for their iOS streams to support both Android and iOS simultaneously. It certainly looks like a remarkably short sighted decision given that Adobe is dropping Flash support for mobile.
Regards,
Dave
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skyfire suck balls
Well I doubt it will be to much longer until the iplayer has native html5 video (after all it already uses this for iOS) and as flash support gets killed for mobile by adobe other formats will take its place, I would say less and less sites are souly use flash, but of cause for years to come there will be random sites that still only uses it, its the case with all new formats.
Personally I have always found streaming and using flash within the browser to just be a bit of a pig and most of the time just wait till I can get to a computer
Literally just got my note today, and was just about to update to ICS but though I'd better check if there were any drawbacks before I plunged right in, and luckily enough I saw that flash has been dropped (Actually in a blog post about 10 reasons why ICS is better than gingerbread, it was casually dropped in whilst saying the new browser is better)
Soo... Am I right in thinking I have to decide whether I'd rather have flash and put up with cut down mobile versions of websites OR full websites but no flash?
I've spent happy years with an N900, and so I'm quite accustomed to the internet on my phone being the same as on my desktop...
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Literally just got my note today, and was just about to update to ICS but though I'd better check if there were any drawbacks before I plunged right in, and luckily enough I saw that flash has been dropped (Actually in a blog post about 10 reasons why ICS is better than gingerbread, it was casually dropped in whilst saying the new browser is better)
Soo... Am I right in thinking I have to decide whether I'd rather have flash and put up with cut down mobile versions of websites OR full websites but no flash?
I've spent happy years with an N900, and so I'm quite accustomed to the internet on my phone being the same as on my desktop...
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From my experience flash is not not unsupported it just is a bit pants on ICS. I recently debated with myself about this as I'm a fan of the Escapist website but their HTML5 media only comes with a paid subscription.
Running their site on Dolphin with a Desktop UI works okay until you try and maximise the video content. Then everything falls over and you have to begin again and just zoom in on the video as best you can.
This is okay I guess but a bit of a pain when I know their Flash stuff would work a lot better on GB.
I can't let go of Paranoid Android tho, it's just too sweet.
I'm on CM9 and have no problems with flash on ics+ browser.
Skyfire is a horrid browser, caused me nothing but issues trying to watch 'flash' videos or even goto everyday websites like facebook.
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Skyfire is a horrid browser, caused me nothing but issues trying to watch 'flash' videos or even goto everyday websites like facebook.
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Forget Skyfire. It used to work but nowadays it's useless. It does not play most of the videos I frequently come across.
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