Before the flaming, I have read and searched many threads before posting.
Reading over the manual:
1. Can you select / Install google maps instead of bing maps like on HD2?
2. If not on Bing maps, does your location auto move as you move, similar to GPS?
3. Never used Zune, does it allow you to sync contacts? not important just interesting to know.
4. For those who have synced to google calendar, is it smooth and fully function? or have you noticed issues?
5. Reading about SRS, many say you have to install an app, according to manual, its in the HTC hub section already installed? which one do we use?
6. Not sure where but I read that future updates will be done auto and not force your phone to be reset to factory default like we currently do with HD2, can this be confirmed? any one know ?
I hate doing updates on HD2, having to re-sync and recreate email accounts and settings, if they do updates without having to reset to factory, such as the new Droid OS does, would be a very easy way to function.
Thank you in advance.
rysky007 said:
Before the flaming, I have read and searched many threads before posting.
Reading over the manual:
1. Can you select / Install google maps instead of bing maps like on HD2?
2. If not on Bing maps, does your location auto move as you move, similar to GPS?
3. Never used Zune, does it allow you to sync contacts? not important just interesting to know.
4. For those who have synced to google calendar, is it smooth and fully function? or have you noticed issues?
5. Reading about SRS, many say you have to install an app, according to manual, its in the HTC hub section already installed? which one do we use?
6. Not sure where but I read that future updates will be done auto and not force your phone to be reset to factory default like we currently do with HD2, can this be confirmed? any one know ?
I hate doing updates on HD2, having to re-sync and recreate email accounts and settings, if they do updates without having to reset to factory, such as the new Droid OS does, would be a very easy way to function.
Thank you in advance.
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1. Currently, only Bing maps is available on the phone, as all primary mapping services also only use Bing (so far). I have yet to come across any apps that use Google Maps, yet.
2. If an application uses the GPS regardless of whether it is using Bing, or Google, or neither, it works the same way where it tracks your location... hence the point of GPS.
3. Zune is for syncing media only at this point. It does not sync your Outlook/Windows/desktop contacts, and currently there is no 'official' way of doing this. Windows Phone 7 relies heavily on the cloud and Exchange server services (Windows Live, Gmail, etc.)
4. Using Google Calendar on the phone is rather simple and straightforward, aside from the limitation that Windows Phone 7 can only currently see your primary calendar only.
5. The SRS and Dolby sound enhancements are HTC-device specific only. You would download the application from the HTC Hub on the Marketplace, which you can only see if you are browsing the Marketplace on an HTC device.
6. Updates are pushed by Microsoft, and not necessarily the carrier (but certainly possible). You are correct that they work more as patches to the system rather than requiring full system re-installs.
I should add that, having been through the hard-reset process recently, getting the phone back to how I had it was fairly straight forward, although there were a couple of time-consuming things:
- set up APN (not needed if you're using an operator-locked phone with the operator's SIM)
- set up WiFi
- Enter Windows Live login details
- Enter Gmail login details
- Enter Facebook details
- Link Gmail contacts with Facebook ones -- most are done for you, but I had about 15 I had to manually link out of 250 contacts.
- Redownload apps. Apparently if you get the apps via Zune Desktop, this happens for you when you resync, but if you've bought/downloaded them via Marketplace, you have to manually redownload.
The bold steps were the time consuming ones. I also lost all saved games, which is frustrating.
Guys thank you for the great and fast responses.
Still a bit confused on the SRS, so is it an app that comes with the phone already? or one we need to get from Market Place?
Also forgot one main question I wanted to ask...
Does WP7 have or need Task Killer?
I know on Droid u have to dl the app,
WM6 came with it
Wm7? dont see any were in manual, do I assume that this new OS actually shuts things down when u close them like it should?
Thanks.
WP7 puts apps to sleep effectively - I can't remember the term they use off hand, but when you navigate away, if the app doesn't ask you if you want to exit, then it will save the state - dehydrated I think is the term! - so it's no longer running in the background. Then when you go back to it, it's rehydrated.
So no task killer.
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WP7 puts apps to sleep effectively - I can't remember the term they use off hand, but when you navigate away, if the app doesn't ask you if you want to exit, then it will save the state - dehydrated I think is the term! - so it's no longer running in the background. Then when you go back to it, it's rehydrated.
So no task killer.
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Not bad, glad to see them follow nokias foot steps on this one.
I hated having task killer but then again its nice to see what is running in back round and bring up a app or process via that as well.
double edge sword i guess
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Guys thank you for the great and fast responses.
Still a bit confused on the SRS, so is it an app that comes with the phone already? or one we need to get from Market Place?
Thanks.
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The app does not come with the phone. The phones do come with HTC Hub though, and through that application, you can view all the other HTC apps, including the Sound Enhancer one, and download it through there. It is also available through the Marketplace (HTC Hub just basically links you to the Marketplace for its downloads).
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Does GoogleMaps Mobile work on the HTC Touch Diamond?
Does it work with the GPS?
Can you link adresses in your contacts to GoogleMaps mobile?
I am not sure but I think the iPhone can do all that, right?
It "technically works" but will basically "undo" the performance tweaks you did......not sure why, but I believe the Java runtime in use by Google Maps is the issue...I did the following:
1) did the performance tweaks
2) installed some apps, including Google Maps
3) phone was back to crawling speed
4) uninstalled Google Maps
5) Performance returned to post-performance tweak
Just my .02
Pure GPS functionality did indeed work quite well....but performance was killed...
What a bummer... what about WindowsLiveSearch mobile (and its map function)?
Live Search is installed and working fine....makes me think it HAS TO have something to do with the Java Runtime, which is unique to the Google Maps app....
Does Live Search offer map search and gps functionality too?
Is there anything similar like google maps? I really like the feature to put in your locations (which would be done automatically by gps) and search for places of interest... :/
P.S.: And actually, when I think about it... the HTC Touch Diamond comes with GPS and is targeted to be an iPhone killer (sort of). Why would HTC not include Google Maps as a quick an easy solution to take advantage of the phone's functionality. Think about a casual user who wants to find a Starbucks in a foreign city. Or a business man who gets a new meeting with an address he does not know immediately (starting Google maps form the address in your contacts would be so cool).
@HTC: I hope you think about this for the HTC Touch PRO!!!!
//offtopic
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3) phone was back to crawling speed
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So again the device is "crawiling" out of the box?! Damn you HTC!
Does google sell there maps alone for installation on Storagecard ?
everytime the location needs to be downloaded GPRS
Blackfire said:
Does google sell there maps alone for installation on Storagecard ?
everytime the location needs to be downloaded GPRS
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No, you have to be connected to the internet (3G ) in order to search and get the maps. That actually is the main purpose: Up to date map searching... online
I've been using Google Maps fine without any performance issues at all.
Haven't tried anything to do with address book integration though.
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I've been using Google Maps fine without any performance issues at all.
Haven't tried anything to do with address book integration though.
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So it does not slow down your device?
You installed Google Maps Mobile, right?
Maybe I can make the developer of PocketInformant make to intergrate MobileLiveSearch/GoogleMaps mobile to be linked with addresses (as an option)
It doesn't seem to have slowed down the device at all, but I did install it quite early on so I may not have noticed.
I might remove it later and see if the device speeds up at all and report back but I have to say right now I'm pretty happy with the performance.
Oh, and yes it was google maps mobile.
I have version 2.1.0.10 installed, and it didn't slow my device down at all.
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It doesn't seem to have slowed down the device at all, but I did install it quite early on so I may not have noticed.
I might remove it later and see if the device speeds up at all and report back but I have to say right now I'm pretty happy with the performance.
Oh, and yes it was google maps mobile.
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Thanks
That makes me quite happy right now ^^)
Does it work fine with the built in GPS?
Do you use it on 3G? How long does it take to load a local map and how long does it take to search for local businesses in this area (e.g. McDonalds )
BTW: Does is support VGA or is it all double sized?
Glad to hear not everyone is having the Google Maps issue....for me....I did the following:
- Took it out of the box (was slow as dirt)
- Installed Advanced Config - made performance tweaks (became fast)
- Installed Google Maps (machine slowed although not to the original speed)
- Uninstalled Google Maps (speed returned)
- Installed Live Search & Live Maps for WM
baliles said:
- Installed Live Search & Live Maps for WM
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How is live search/maps performing?
Is it working like live search in your browser? (so all europe is available?)
Live Maps mobile does not work for Asian countries. Anyone else has a successful installation and use of Google Maps?
I installed it and it slowed down my diamond badly even after I terminated the program?! weird....
tried installing Google Maps again. Thought I needed to soft reset the phone for it to work properly.
Previous install (w/o soft reset), total memory used was 81% - damn sluggish!
Current install, total memory used 61%
Currently not sluggish at all. I'll play around for a day more and I'll provide updates.
can you tell me how to setup the gps in order to work with google maps?
Thanks a lot!
It just works.
Google maps is also not slow at all??
Works like a charm, I like driving around with GPS on sattelite view, it just as someone is watching me 'from above' Really, really smooth map movement on HSDPA.
Has anyone reset or replaced their (faulty) phones yet? What happens to the apps you've downloaded from Marketplace?
I have a few questions:
1. Are they automatically re-installed or do you have to do it manually?
2. Does it show you a history of the apps you've installed?
I suspect my phone has a fault and I will be sending it back for a replacement, should I be keeping a list of any apps I install or will market place do all this for me?
I have a mixture of paid and fee apps on my phone.
Thanks.
I literally just swapped out an hour ago. When I entered my live ID, the apps I had downloaded came back onto the phone. Nice feature....
Thanks this is very encouraging!
As a windos mobile user, I'm really having to eat my hat. Marketplace is impressing me more every time I use it.
I have been on Blackberry, iPhone and Android on various phones for the past 18 months and I have to say I am impressed as well... its missing some apps (evernote, dropbox and a skype solution) but I know those will come soon.
I really hope this OS gets some real momentum...
i hope it too
I've reset my hd7 twice (for testing purposes not due to faults), the apps I had didn't auto-download, they were listed as purchased and available to re-download. Which would seem a more normal behaviour.
pjmurphy77 said:
(evernote, dropbox and a skype solution)
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There is a VOIP application currently on WP7.
Its called Voxofon and you can view a video demo here.
frontieruk said:
I've reset my hd7 twice (for testing purposes not due to faults), the apps I had didn't auto-download, they were listed as purchased and available to re-download. Which would seem a more normal behaviour.
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Mine also didn't auto re-install when I went from the prototype device to my developer's HD7 would have been nice to have the option.
ckacey said:
Mine also didn't auto re-install when I went from the prototype device to my developer's HD7 would have been nice to have the option.
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Me too. swapped my phone due to a suspected hardware fault. Apps didn't auto-download.
Its been suggested that applications downloaded directly on the phone wont auto install, but those purchased via the zune desktop software will.
efjay said:
Its been suggested that applications downloaded directly on the phone wont auto install, but those purchased via the zune desktop software will.
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I take back everything I said!!!!
I have had my new phone for 24 hours now. Up until my last post nothing had downloaded. I left Marketplace open on my phone and left it and went away. 4 hours later all the I had previously installed had automatically downloaded!!!
I'm really impressed. I think you have to launch marketplace and then leave it a while for it download the apps.
Will leave the games hub open to see if any games download back onto my phone
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I take back everything I said!!!!
I have had my new phone for 24 hours now. Up until my last post nothing had downloaded. I left Marketplace open on my phone and left it and went away. 4 hours later all the I had previously installed had automatically downloaded!!!
I'm really impressed. I think you have to launch marketplace and then leave it a while for it download the apps.
Will leave the games hub open to see if any games download back onto my phone
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You are correct...they do not download. If, IF you purchased your apps on your PC from Zune, those apps will download.
You can also find all the apps you purchased in the Zune software on the PC....Settings, Account, Purchse History. phone. This is not actionable...but at least the list of apps is there.
I had the same experience -- was confused why only a couple of apps redownloaded, and I had to grab the rest myself.
What I do miss is a list of 'purchased apps' in the marketplace on the phone itself. I can't remember them all!
I guess if I have to reset again, I'll just add all my 'purchased' apps to zune desktop. And, I guess, should I ever actually pay for an app, do that via Zune Desktop too...
I have noticed, happily, that apps I have purchased for my EVO are still paid for and available for use with my tab. I have been using AppBrain instead of Titanium to put my apps back on after a ROM flash.
Can I sync my tab without effecting the list of what is on my phone? I guess I could go the Ti route but I kinda like not have another backup saved on my card (in addition to one saved in recovery).
I've synced my phone and my tablet with AppBrain and have not noticed any problems or missing apps or the like.
Outta curiosity, can you check the AppBrain website and see if shows a separate list for the tab?
Thanks!
Hey gents. Just wanted to say how much I'm loving this G Tablet first off.
But I just wanted to leave a little tip you may have used. If you enable Fast Web Install in AppBrain, you'll be able to search the entire marketplace and install apps that even don't show up in the Android Marketplace after the fix.
For example, I used it to install Vplayer Alpha as I prefer it to Rockplayer just bit. I couldn't find it in the Android Marketplace and I wasn't too sure about the APK file I downloaded to sideload.
Luckily, Fast Web Installer + AppBrain = No need for Android Marketplace.
@goalweiser - I see VPlayer Beta (I think it's no longer Alpha) in Market currently, after my extended Market Fix (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861044), although I've made a few additional tweaks to build.prop now so not certain it will be there for you.
But thanks for sharing the AppBrain Fast Web Installer tip, I wasn't aware of that one.
Thanks for the tip on the Beta...need to update! It was updated on my Evo and I didn't even notice.
That said, my AppBrain account doesn't necessarily seem to be syncing both ways. I can't seem to get the same apps on both my Evo and GTab without downloading them manually.
I'll probably just create another account for the GTab all together.
I see both my Evo and my GTab separately within the same gmail account logged into AppBrain... Look on the left-hand side, they group them according to device.
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Outta curiosity, can you check the AppBrain website and see if shows a separate list for the tab?
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Yes, it does.
appbrain sync
pray tell, how do you sync appbrain to your g tablet ?
I recently rooted my Droid 1 with One Click and now have Super User access. From there I grabbed an Milestone Overclocking app to simplify speeding up the phone, (as I have mentioned in other threads I am completely out of my element with phones since they don't have a internal combustion engine) as well as Root Exlorer from the market. Then I went into the world of deleting .apk files that I had read here that were unnecessary and completely safe to remove. Along with those I also got rid of, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Amazon MP3. Since this I have not been able to get past "Getting Driving Directions" on my Navigation. I have checked with others I work with and they had some issues as well with Navigation over the past week. Both Droid 1 and 2 users reported the same issues of screen stall to me. As of Friday one of the users of Droid 2 let me know that his Nav was once again working properly, mine is still not. Did I overdo it on deleting and get rid of something that is causing this problem? My Maps still give proper directions from my location, (no matter where I am at the time of testing) but once going into Nav, stalls. If I did get rid of too many how can I get those files back to my phone so everything works again as desired? I am now left with the following .apk files (.odex files as well):
Account and Sync Settings
Applications Provider
Bluetooth
Browser
Calculator
*Calendar Google
*Calendar Provider
Camera Google
Cert Installer
Contacts
Contacts Provider
Corp Cal (what does this do exactly?)
Default Container Service (job of this?)
Download Provider
Drm Prover
Droid Email Policy (Read it, can I get rid of it?)
Email Google
Gallery 3D Google
Genie Widget
Google Backup Transport
*Google Calendar Sync Adapter
Google Contacts Sync Adapter
Google Feedback
Google Partner Setup (Purpose of this?)
Google Services Framework
HTML Viewer
Kickback (Can I safely kill this? Have never enabled it)
Launcher2
Maps
Market Updater
Media Provider
Media Uploader (no .odex with this one)
Mms
Music google
Network Location
One Time Initializer (Purpose?)
Package Installer
Phone
Phone Config
Pico TTS (I use Vlingo, can I delete this as well?)
Program Menu
Program Menu System
Protips (Use?)
Settings
Settings Provider
Setup Wizard
Sholes Quick Office (no .odex)
Soundback (no .odex)
Sound Recorder
Superuser
Telephony Provider
User Dictionary Provider
Vending (Use?)
VPN Services
(*) I never input any events into my calendar, but I do like to look ahead at times for planning reasons, do I need all these?
Alright, I will leave you all alone and continue being a gearhead, drinker and general knuckle-dragger until more questions of me are asked or answers are available, thank you all again for all of your help!
hmm....i delete over 100 apps from delfy but if you delete all of it you will lost may fuctions
You wiped too much. Some apps are both app (as per UI for user) as data providers for certain functionality. You can tell that by looking in Manifest but you have to have enough knowledge to judge. Rule of tumb is to always move stuff off-side (i.e. to SD card folder) and not removing directly as you got no way back in case of failure, especially sometimes you may find out something does not work far too late. I wiped crap like GMail or Navigation and other 3rd party useless apps but I'd suggest to stay away from removing apps that may offer ecosystem functionality. Potential savings (like 200KB) vs time wasted on restoration is simply not worth for most cases.
Corp Cal - Corporate Calendar. Requires Exchange server. Probably safe to remove but again - do you *really* needs that to be removed?
Thank you for the info. Where would I be able to find all the original system apps so that I can add them all back and delete more carefully next time?
Hi everyone,
Now that the Lg Urbane 2nd can have standalone applications using data connection with AW 2.0 Dev preview 3, I think it is time to have a thread to list the apps that can either be sideloaded and work standalone in the watch, or wear apps that actually have standalone capabilities.
I'll start with a apk I found to stream some music right from the watch: PCRadio2016 ( https://apkpure.com/radio-online-pcradio-2016/ru.zfour.pcradio )
I sideloaded the full app with adb, and of course the interface is quirky, but you now have access to 10.000 radio station divided by genre right from your watch..
I haven't tried flashing the preview yet, but since you have I was wondering if OK Google commands now work as standalone. I'd go ahead and flash the developer preview if I was certain that the restore image was identical to the factory ROM on my Verizon watch. Thanks
ED2O9 said:
I haven't tried flashing the preview yet, but since you have I was wondering if OK Google commands now work as standalone. I'd go ahead and flash the developer preview if I was certain that the restore image was identical to the factory ROM on my Verizon watch. Thanks
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Yes, Google voice works as standalone. All Google stuff is actually working very well (notifications for example), and i've been using the Preview 3 as a daily driver for more than a week now. Battery life is good, and the Whole experience is miles ahead in term of fluidity and ease of use. Only bad thing is that, because of the new playstore, you need to sideload all your apps manually until they arrive in the playstore.
Well, I took the plunge and so far I'm pretty impressed. I've side-loaded the GhostRacer wear app, and it appears to be running fine. Any chance you might have seen a way to get Play Music running?
ED2O9 said:
Well, I took the plunge and so far I'm pretty impressed. I've side-loaded the GhostRacer wear app, and it appears to be running fine. Any chance you might have seen a way to get Play Music running?
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The only music app I managed to have working is the one I posted. No chance with anything else. The problem with Google play music seems to be that there is already a music play service installed that blocks the installation of any Gplay apk.
Thanks for the info. I recently discovered that the factory image linked on the developer preview site isn't really stock (at least for the Verizon version). After flashing it, I can set up calling on the watch. It keeps telling me to run a system update. Any suggestions?
Hey there,
Is there a location sharing app (Glympse or smth) that works on standalone mode?
Thanks a lot
Hi again,
Is there Google maps available on AW 2.0?
Thanks
gidi said:
Hi again,
Is there Google maps available on AW 2.0?
Thanks
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Yes, you need to sideload the wear version of gmaps and everything works
Where can I download it from?
Hi there,
I`m using my watch since some weeks with preview 3 daily and it's pretty much better as v1.5 before.
These are the apps were I sideloaded the micro APK:
- Citymapper
- Fit (seems to work now from the Play Store as well)
- Keep
- MacroDroid
- Messenger
- Calculator
- SafeInCloud
- Watchmaker Premium
These apps I have installed directly from the embedded Play Store:
- Browser
- PaperCraft
Cheers
Axel
Hi, I need these standalone apps:
- task manager to view cpu/ram and for kills apps/services
- file manager to upload media files or apk file and view them
More or less the same daily use of the watch but very different battery drain, I suppose bad management services/apps
Sorry for my english
GiuloMaster said:
Hi, I need these standalone apps:
- task manager to view cpu/ram and for kills apps/services
- file manager to upload media files or apk file and view them
More or less the same daily use of the watch but very different battery drain, I suppose bad management services/apps
Sorry for my english
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There is no such real working apps for AW 2.0.
GiuloMaster said:
Hi, I need these standalone apps:
- task manager to view cpu/ram and for kills apps/services
- file manager to upload media files or apk file and view them
More or less the same daily use of the watch but very different battery drain, I suppose bad management services/apps
Sorry for my english
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Code:
adb install OSmonitor.apk
adb shell wm density 200
works for me on AW1.5
ESfileExplorer can also be sideloaded.
Hi,
very cool sideloading app: Flightradar24
Almost everything works like on the phone. Have a look on the screen shots.
Axel
If someone can try to sideload https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bsoule.tagtime&hl=en and let me know if it'd works, it'd be awesome. I'm insta-buying an Urbane if it does! =)
I use (all sideloaded full apps):
Line Messenger
Facebook Lite
Facebook Messenger Lite
Greenify
For everything else bought the package from appfour, includes:
launcher (overlay)
email (sending+receiving standalone)
weaher app (not using actually)
nice keyboard
youtube player (standalone)
and a few other things (just look for the comapny)
to use the apps standalone, you have to choose this in the app at the beginning, if not you will always rely on phone connection (working as slave app, like normal aw wares)
what i've tried:
e-robot (works but on the small screen its a pain, the area where you choose events and actions is extremely thin)
kernel audiutor (some beta here on the forum)
clean my android (works, but i saw no imrpvements by using it)
I know i wish there were more fully functional apps for the watch..
I use NINE email on my phone.. and it has an app for the watch.. but it only allows me to do a voice memo? confused..
I would LOVE to find a better functioning SMS app..
I tried PULSE - worked great.. but missed a few group messages so not sure its reliable.
EVOLVE - looks like it has potential.. but only would let me respond to the last message in the conversation list.. even though it would show all of them.
Texpert - does show MMS Messages on watch.
Wear Messenger - confusing interface and doesn't show MMS Messages.
Messages for Android - doesn't show MMS messages
Google Messenger - MMS Image compression is horrible so didn't want to use as main SMS app on phone.
so if anyone else knows of an app that allows all messages to be viewed on the watch, let me know !
nice post, . . .
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