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[ANSWERED] Moto Droid + google voice(or talk?) over wifi

I have a moto droid which is no longer active with Verizon(that $30 a month was getting to be a bit much) and would like to use google voice to make calls. On install, it gives an option to use google voice for calls, but when I actually try to make one it routes me to Verizon's "we're sorry, this phone isn't in service" message.
I understand that this isn't really the intended use, but I can use google talk to make a call from my PC, why will it not let me use the same service from my droid. Is this a quirk of the device or a limitation from Verizon or google?
I'm using the latest Bugless Beast, if it makes a difference, though I have also tried with CM7 build 3 and CM 6.1.2.
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Ah, nevermind. I figured it out myself. This is not possible with google voice alone, but I grabbed Sipdroid off the market. When paired with a google voice account(set to ring to gtalk as well as any other phone numbers) works rather well as a wifi phone. There is a bit of a delay sometimes in making a call, but no serious problems. call quality is quite good.

Incoming and Outgoing calls with GrooVe IP

i have tested and used it to make and recieve calls thru my google voice account ...it actually rings my streak

What is the voice quality like? Can u send/receive txt and mms as well? Thanks
I've tried line2 and the quality was horrid!
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hashbrown said:
What is the voice quality like? Can u send/receive txt and mms as well? Thanks
I've tried line2 and the quality was horrid!
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you can just download and try it out it uses your google voice account

works
Great sound on my end but the other end say they hear their own voice like a echo also havent been able to recieve phone calls only make outbound but great discovery!

how do you receive calls? I only able to make calls, but if someone dials my number it won't ring! I'm using it on my Nexus One. do I have to change any of the settings? I checked all the settings couldn't find anything related to this problem.

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hooman64 said:
how do you receive calls? I only able to make calls, but if someone dials my number it won't ring! I'm using it on my Nexus One. do I have to change any of the settings? I checked all the settings couldn't find anything related to this problem.
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Have to log out of google chat. And check the forward calls to google chat in google voice.

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Have to log out of google chat. And check the forward calls to google chat in google voice.
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Thanks for your help,
Well yeah I used GV before, it actually is my main number now, I knew that I had to DL voice and video plugin and forward calls to Gmail, but like you said the trick was to log out of all Gtalk clients, which is disturbing, If I want my phone to ring I can't use my Gtalk and if I use Gtalk my phone stops ringing, do you have any suggestions for that?
or do you have any alternative app in mind? I used GV with Gizmo5 before but since they shut Gizmo5 down this is the best app by far out there. I'm open to suggestions!

Got it, and it works pretty well. I have to run some more tests with it; my voice came through a bit choppy on the other end, but that was before I enabled the smoother calling features in the advanced settings. I have yet to play with it since then; I'll test and report back.

cybertang said:
Great sound on my end but the other end say they hear their own voice like a echo also havent been able to recieve phone calls only make outbound but great discovery!
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Solved echo prob. by using blue tooth ear peace. And incoming calls works well for me

yeah i founf a whole new respect fot the streak

It is preity sick, but mabe to big to carry in my pocket lol

i never find that to be a issue ,and i carry my ear piece for private calls but i like using the speaker it draws so much attention from low tech heads

I've found that it works great when I have it on speakerphone (after tweaking a few of the advanced settings), but it's very in and out when I'm using a wired headset. I also have experienced Pandora cutting in and out when plugged into a stereo. Could I have a bad headphone jack? Anyone else experiencing this?

Update: I'm working with the dev of the app. I get pretty decent audio in, but my audio out is horrible. My voice comes through very choppy and laggy, no matter what I do with the settings. Bluetooth is really bad, and it's not the bluetooth (tested it on my Droid and it runs great).
I'll let you all know hoe it turns out; the dev sent me another version of the app to try, which I ought to be able to try out tonight.
Anyone else having audio issue with theirs?

Ok, been using this for a couple days but only have outgoing calls. What do I need to do to make the S7 ring for incoming calls? All calls to my google voice number ring about 5 times then goes to voicemail.
Edited to add: I do get the voicemail notification after a minute.

Gravityrat said:
Ok, been using this for a couple days but only have outgoing calls. What do I need to do to make the S7 ring for incoming calls? All calls to my google voice number ring about 5 times then goes to voicemail.
Edited to add: I do get the voicemail notification after a minute.
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Are you signed into Gmail anywhere else (or Gtalk)? That'll make it so it doesn't ring on GrooVe IP.

Duh, my G2 was signed in. Now I cant get my bluetooth to search for my headset. AURGH!
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Gravityrat said:
Duh, my G2 was signed in. Now I cant get my bluetooth to search for my headset. AURGH!
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I'm pretty sure StreakDroid has known issues in the kernel that affect bluetooth. Try stock or stock rooted 2.2.2.

Thanks thatruth132!!!! This is awesome! i have my streak only on wifi and I am able to make/receive calls through Groove IP!
I am definately using this on my travels next week! Hopefully it works while I am traveling to be able to connect back to work and family.
Thanks again thatruth132!

Place Calls Over Wifi

Is there an app that allows you to place calls over wifi. Like to use my own real phone number and use wifi instead of the network to place my call. i ask because i get terrible reception in my house. I dont want apps that you have buy a plan for though, like skype, or anything that only works with other calls to that app, like fring

Take a look at Sipdroid or CsipSimple.

Dri94 said:
Is there an app that allows you to place calls over wifi. Like to use my own real phone number and use wifi instead of the network to place my call. i ask because i get terrible reception in my house. I dont want apps that you have buy a plan for though, like skype, or anything that only works with other calls to that app, like fring
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Well, there is an app but it doesn't use your regular phone number. It's called GrooVe IP. The app costs like 4 bucks on the market, but it's a complete VOIP application. It uses your Google Voice account to place the calls. There is a setup tutorial in the application description. I'm sure you could find the APK on other sites, but I'm not sure if it requires cracking or if you can just get the APK and install it.

I use Tango. It uses your email address to make VOIP calls (with video). Totally free and is also available for iOS. I use it to call my son on the other side of the country on his iPod touch.

does tango give youa phone number?

I've heard many good things about sipdroid too. I'm going to try setting it up on my deactivated htc eris. Supposedly works with google voice over wifi. I'll report back after I get it all working.
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I've been using sipDroid for a few Weeks now.works great. It occasionally had audio issues but I user it for all my work calls. Saves me from burning all my minutes.
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If you have a google voice # you can use a application called 'grooveIP'. Uses either wifi or mobile data to dial out through google voice. Been using it for over a month now and works well. Obviously the better the connection the better quality.

Dri94 said:
does tango give youa phone number?
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Tango does not give you a phone number, it uses your email address. I'm pretty sure it only works with people that also have the app.
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SipDroid+Google Voice... lets me make calls over wifi and 3g for free, and gives me a phone number, and lets me text. its great

I forgot that GrooveIP isnt free, I got it either from here on the forums or another site when it was released.

Living without Wifi Calling

So I just wanted to post my alternative to wifi calling since most of our JB roms are the best roms for this phone but most users divert from using them because there is no wifi calling...
My fix is pretty simple actually, I just set my primary voicemail to Google voice, so that all my missed calls from either one goes to my google voice voicemail, this way when people call me Ill be able to get a notification through wifi instead of through data when i have no single.. I know its not the same as being able to receive calls but it notifies you when you have a call.
Next I just downloaded the vonage app which lets you make free calls to USA numbers and I think canada.. So after I get a voicemail notification, I just call the number back.
Feel Free to post your alternatives to wifi calling in this thread, i would love to see other ways users live with out it
Now this only works if they leave a voicemail. so dont expect google to just notify you every time you get a call.
This is just my simple fix for having no wifi calling.. i figure if they dont leave a voicemail.. then their call wasnt that important..

As a Canadian, I've never had the advantage of T-Mobile's wifi calling, however we have our own alternative which isn't too bad at all. Fongo (formerly Dell Voice). A good internet connection is required though, otherwise you may experience lag and/or low quality calls. On the plus side, you get a new phone number in any locale you want. Most of Canada is covered. So for instance, if you're in Vancouver and have family in Toronto, it makes sense to get a Toronto number so they can call you without incurring long distance charges (exactly what I do ). You can even set it up so calls dialed to that Toronto number get forwarded to your actual Vancouver number. Pretty nifty! They have a texting option as well, however that will cost you. Voicemail is included, and is free!
As far as free text messaging goes (and incoming calls, so long as you don't want to spend any money), a great service covering both the US and Canada is Pinger. Once again, you get a brand new phone number, though not as important for texting. The app itself can integrate your carrier's calls and texts, too, if you so choose (enabled by default - I typically disable it).

Fortunately, for me wifi calling isn't make or break. The bars here are generally 'good enough'. But...
An interesting (though maybe too much of a work around for most) would be to simply fully back up the official rom with wifi calling and your custom rom and then you can switch between them. Need wifi calling at work? Wipe and restore to the official rom after you get there. Want the custom rom at home, just wipe and restore that backup.
I know it works with Clockworkmod's backup and restore as that is what I use with swaping atm to test battery usage between roms. A restore brings back everything exactly how it was left.
(Perhaps the only real issue would be to be done with any OS specific changes. If you insall a new app and want to keep it then another backup would be required or it would not be there next time. Other things like contacts, calendar via google syncing isn't a problem as it just syncs changes between them via wifi. No need to do backups for that* - just wipe and restore any time. Also, the amount of space/time could be a problem if someone has too much stuff.)
*Point to point out, if anything is changed in the restored rom which affects goole sync before google is finished syncing then that could cause something to not be synced and thus lost forever. Unsure which side would lose. Haven't run into it personally. Backups are always good regardless.
Other than that, I just ordered cables for usb otg which on my phone requires the official rom (or a rom based off of it). So I want to see how that goes and may [continue] to do the swapping of roms for that. For me and how I use the phone its not a problem.
Another idea... would be to simply have another phone with wifi calling and do sim card swapping.
Guess this is the post of all about swapping.

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The Vonage app works great for Wifi calling. That is what I am using. People will still be able to see your existing phone # on caller ID.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vonage.TimeToCall&hl=en

yeah ive been plagued with this dilemma as well.. right now i just use the CM9 which has T-Mobile wifi calling. however the calling barely works (just shows call screen then beeps to disconnect) it does do the texting 95% of the time.
i do have the tmobile visual voicemail so it alerts me if i get a voicemail.
i thought about using google voice but it looked to want to import my number and i was afraid it mess up the regular carrier..
i dont like using the apps that assign a different number so i think im stuck with ICS until someone hacks it into JB..
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Dizmatic said:
The Vonage app works great for Wifi calling. That is what I am using. People will still be able to see your existing phone # on caller ID.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vonage.TimeToCall&hl=en
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i read about this just now and it says it works with anyone who also has the app.. so that would limit who i could contact when on wifi only....
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Light ROM with GrooveIP
I'm not sure I understand your question . Are you looking to live without wifi or find solutions to solve bad wifi?
I had a lot of trouble with wifi calling until I did this:
[ROM] RemICS-JB 3.0.1 - The most stable, light and reasonably fast ROM I could get onto my phone
Set up Google Voice account (actually GApps but not relevant)
Install GrooveIP
Configure properly - The startup and answer on calls settings help integrate it seamlessly into your daily calling
Now you have inbound outbound calling, and with a decent connection it's very clean with rare hiccups
I trield Talkatone for a while and while at first it seemed to work out of the box better, I had issues with it over time.
So I went back to GIP and fiddled with settings after reading a lot. Because it works directly over Google Talk protocol and not GVoice, it is more stable and offers a better connection.
Hope this helps you get solid voice over wifi (Free
I did pay for Groove IP in the end.
Groove IP does not offer SMS built in like Talkatone does, so if you are SMSing all day as well then look at Talkatone. If quality of calls is paramount start with GIP. I use the GVoice app for SMS

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Hope this helps you get solid voice over wifi (Free
I did pay for Groove IP in the end.
Groove IP does not offer SMS built in like Talkatone does, so if you are SMSing all day as well then look at Talkatone. If quality of calls is paramount start with GIP. I use the GVoice app for SMS
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do those assign you another number or does it use ur regular cell number?
does the other person need the app?
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Sorry I did not mention this. Yes you use the GVoice as your main #
I converted to Grand Central (with Gizmo) several years ago before Google acquired it, so I'm very familiar with Voice and have been using it successfully for years.
I also use an Obi202 device ($75 for life) that lets my standard house phone make/receive calls on up to 4 GVoice numbers, or other VOIP services (like callcentric, etc.)
So my GVoice numbers ring multiple devices. One caveat is that GrooveIP on android interferes with the ringing on Obi device so I turn it off when I'm in office-desk mode. But I think this is off-topic
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do those assign you another number or does it use ur regular cell number?
does the other person need the app?
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Im still in the testing phase... but MIUI ICS has the tmobile wifi calling working very well.
(Note it wasn't pre loaded so i did a full app and data backup of wifi calling via titanium backup and restored it after flashing new ROM)
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Wifi calling still is sketchy.. didnt call last night.. just beeps and hangs up. But i have noticed it starts each time i connect to wifi unlike CM9 where i would have to click the app
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VoIP on Android Auto?

Is there a way to make VoIP calls through Android Auto? I read some threads on a different website that said Hangouts Dialer is not supported (yet?), but I'm wondering if there is another way to use VoIP through AA?
I am a Sprint customer on an unlimited everything plan that costs me only $60/month after all the taxes and fees. I get good coverage in my home area and for the most part wherever I've been traveling. Ive been out of contract for sometime, but my galaxy S4 is starting to feel a bit dated. Unfortunately all the new Sprint phones are Tri-band Spark models and don't support simultaneous voice and data unlike my current phone. I just got the Pioneer AVH 4100NEX and I'm loving Android Auto. I frequently use Google Maps when in the car for a long period of time and if I were to upgrade to a new Sprint Spark phone I'd lose the ability to have it running while taking calls in the car. THe only work-around I can think of would be to use a VoIP dialer so that my calls are also via data...

The answer to your question is no. With that said, Maps caches a fair amount of data when navigating, so unless you're on the phone for long periods of time (or try to reroute during a call) you should be good.
Also note Maps now allows you to cache specific areas to your phone which can be used offline for navigation and routing.

Ill try giving the google maps cache thing a try, but I see the potential problem of my crappy galaxy S4's storage capacity being an issue if saving a significant amount of data. Its only 16GB and less than 9GB of that is usable space with the barebones installation - much of that which I've used up with apps that I routinely use. Fortunately it looks like there are several supported apps with either free or cheap ($3/mo) voice data calling available that work with AA. Whether these would work with my native number so as to be a viable option when people are calling my cell number I'm not sure... Text Me, textPlus, Skype, ICQ video calls & chat are currently available so I'll have to check those out. Another option I guess would be to get AppRadio unchained reloaded and use that instead of AA

Does anyone know if there are any plans for integrating data calls through Google Hangouts app (or another VoIP Dialer) into Android Auto in the future?

I don't think Google has made ANY* statements/promises about future features in Android Auto. But feel free to ask them on Google+ or where-ever.
*Only exception I can think of is a positive response to a question about somehow integrating Waze into AA. But no timeline for that.
... But you'd think that supporting VOIP at some point would make sense, unless Google needs to keep the carriers happy.

The long answer is YES, but limited:
Try this: Install AA and WhatsApp in you mobile. Start the AA in your HU as regular. Then, with you mobile connected and with MOBILE screen (type multi-tasking button) and open the WhatsApp in the mobile... then make a VOIP call...
Then you show that at this moment the Bluetooth of the HU routes the call, and the AA in the screen show the call... All as a regular voice call.
Then the only missing feature is that Google needs to include the voice command for VOIP calls (send the command to the message app) and/or using the dialer (agenda).
I hope soon this will included by default!

manos78 said:
The long answer is YES, but limited:
Try this: Install AA and WhatsApp in you mobile. Start the AA in your HU as regular. Then, with you mobile connected and with MOBILE screen (type multi-tasking button) and open the WhatsApp in the mobile... then make a VOIP call...
Then you show that at this moment the Bluetooth of the HU routes the call, and the AA in the screen show the call... All as a regular voice call.
Then the only missing feature is that Google needs to include the voice command for VOIP calls (send the command to the message app) and/or using the dialer (agenda).
I hope soon this will included by default!
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Thanks for the reply. I'll try this out today and see if that works with my setup. When you say that the calls will be made "All as a regular voice call" you mean that the process of answering/making calls is similar to voice call? I'm hoping that it still would use the WhatsApp VoIP data service because thats the main reason I'd want to use this feature.
Is the reason why you use this method because you also have Sprint and don't have simultaneous voice an data??

Sadly this is still an issue 14 months later, and yes, it's because of Sprint's refusal to allow simultaneous data/voice...
Did WhatsApp solve the problem for you? Is there anything new that would work? I love using AA (phone only, not car) but losing data isn't always an option.

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Sadly this is still an issue 14 months later, and yes, it's because of Sprint's refusal to allow simultaneous data/voice...
Did WhatsApp solve the problem for you? Is there anything new that would work? I love using AA (phone only, not car) but losing data isn't always an option.
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I actually ended up switching to T-Mobile almost exclusively for this reason. I found a good deal with them that allows unlimited music streaming (which works out great with Android Auto) and now I don't have to worry about being able to use voice/data at the same time while I'm driving on longer trips (i.e. using Google Maps, listening to Google Play Music, and get a voice call at the same time). I am using my Google Voice number and get Hangouts messages passed through Android Auto and use the default dialer with my GV number as well.

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I actually ended up switching to T-Mobile almost exclusively for this reason. I found a good deal with them that allows unlimited music streaming (which works out great with Android Auto) and now I don't have to worry about being able to use voice/data at the same time while I'm driving on longer trips (i.e. using Google Maps, listening to Google Play Music, and get a voice call at the same time). I am using my Google Voice number and get Hangouts messages passed through Android Auto and use the default dialer with my GV number as well.
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I hear that, but that 50% off was just too good to give up, even with the drawbacks...