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This is worth it, take it from someone who was looking for something other than SanDisk 32GB C2 I have been waiting for Kingston's 32GB C4 for long time and when it came out I got it though offical site for $159.

Yeah, I ordered one of these last week from newegg along with an otterbox defender case for $33 w/free shipping for both.... not too bad at all. Should be getting them today. Has anyone used the Kingston class 4 32gb card for running android on the hd2?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Well, far as I know people do claim the R/W IOPs for HD2 when card inside the device won't go beyond class 2 rate but some who did use class 4-6 cards said they did see major improvement in terms of loading OS/Apps from mSD card. Anything beyond class 4 is an overkill on HD2 that I accept unless you are moving around massive amount of data and use HD2 as your mean to transfer it, in that case just buy thumb drive.
"Sent from my PC using THE hand" lol

I was in a Fry's Electronics the other day and I saw a 16gb Class 10 microsd card for $32.00. Don't remember the maker but it was not name brand, that is extremely questionable

wow
my videos which are about 12g play almost instantly now i love this card and the free usb reader, thanks kingston

Ya this card was worth waiting for hell I shot up an storm in this section comparing other vendors. Now I have the SanDisk 16GB C2 card not sure what to do with it, hopefully I can sell that cheap.

same
stuck with the sandisk

I ordered this 32GB class 4 card from Kingston and it is much slower then my old SanDisk card. Booting Android took over 5 minutes and after that the device still is VERY slow.
With its card reader I could copy my files onto it with 3-4MB/s.
Then I installed SKTools under Windows Mobile and used its benchmark tool to compare my SD Cards:
My old SanDisk 8GB card (stock one from the blackstone, afaik class 2): ~6,6MB/s reading and 1,1-1,5MB/s writing
The new class 4 32GB Kingston card: ~2,2MB/s reading and 500-700KB/s writing
So I can't use Android with this crappy SD card.

Ya IDK man same on my end. Took me 25min to traf 320mb files, ATM showing me 116min to traf 4.1gb.

i got kingston 23gb class 4. really disappointed takes forever to transfer. but speed test shows its class 4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861232
oh yeah i got the one from frys it rocks to bad its not 32gb.

I would stick with SanDisk.
I wanned to try out a faster card so got a class 6 Kingston 8gb.. while it loaded things faster, it caused severe stuttering and lagginess at times.
Upon reserach i found, kingston, and many other cards are not the same quality grade as sandisk, i am told in order to be price competitive they buy crap from others at cheap and stick thier name in it. And sometimes they buy rejects from sandisk, toshiba, samsung etc and brand them.....
Unfortunately i cant remmeber the links i researched....
So i would stick with sandisk, or another proven manufacturer....

UThis is total BS, I started it at like 6PM and now its 10:40PM and still 78min's to go WTF and its just 4.2GB music files avg at like 3-6mb/ea. Now I remember putting the whole dir in SanDisk 16GB Class 2 in less than 40min. So WTF does it take so long? Also as I wrote to Kingston CS ill share it here.
To make the file transfer go faster you have to directly allocate the file in memory thus saving time for R/W IO access. I did test many times but I am not even sure HD2 is following SD 2.0 or is it just this POS card no were close to even the stock SanDisk's.
Test: Dir with 5 files at 5mb/ea so thats 25mb. If you copy each file you reduce the time by 3x but if you copy the dir all the objects inside takes time to allocate for some reason.
PS: I am thinking about now getting SanDisk 32GB Class 2.
***UPDATE***
3.85GB
Write
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SanDisk 16GB Class 2 = 26min
Kingston 32GB Class 4 = 191min

HyperNode said:
Ya IDK man same on my end. Took me 25min to traf 320mb files, ATM showing me 116min to traf 4.1gb.
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I also don't understand this.. I have a 16gb C2 card and wanted to experiment a lot with the various android roms out there, so thought a C4 would be the answer. ordered a 16gb C4 and it is always slower than the C2. a full 30 seconds on booting Android.
This confuses me.....okay okay .. thats not hard to do, but as far as I'm concerned if a card is rated at twice the "constant" speed of the other .. it should be faster...
<fx: scratches head and moves on>

HyperNode said:
Well, far as I know people do claim the R/W IOPs for HD2 when card inside the device won't go beyond class 2 rate but some who did use class 4-6 cards said they did see major improvement in terms of loading OS/Apps from mSD card. Anything beyond class 4 is an overkill on HD2 that I accept unless you are moving around massive amount of data and use HD2 as your mean to transfer it, in that case just buy thumb drive.
"Sent from my PC using THE hand" lol
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I think it really depends on the card and not the class. I have a couple of Class4 and Class6 cards with identical builds of android and my class2 16gb continually outperform them in boot times and general speed. Class only designates write speed and there is a lot more to an SD card's performance that is not captured in the class designation.

ATM I am thinking about returning the Kingston 32GB C4 as I spoke to Kingston Tech Support and might go with SanDisk 32GB C2. Alot of people say SanDisk is superior and is faster for some reason and getting close to class 4 rating.

HyperNode said:
ATM I am thinking about returning the Kingston 32GB C4 as I spoke to Kingston Tech Support and might go with SanDisk 32GB C2. Alot of people say SanDisk is superior and is faster for some reason and getting close to class 4 rating.
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I can only quote my experience and that is that kingston C4 is NOT fast at all.
Good luck to you.. and if you find the San Disk C4 is sooo much faster than the C2 can you report back please .. ?? So I can go get one

I just bought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc but when ever i put it in my hd2 it just freezes up and as soon as I remove the card it works fine again.At first i thought that it was a fake so I:
1)performed multiple tests,
2)reformated a 1000 times,
3)even putting 20gb of data just to make sure.
Turns out that it is authentic and it works perfectly on my girlfriend's htc BalckStone it also worked when I installed NAND (which i later removed due to insufficient memory).Ive been searching for days, I think its a windows mobile issue, any tips??

gothikserpent said:
I just bought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc but when ever i put it in my hd2 it just freezes up and as soon as I remove the card it works fine again.At first i thought that it was a fake so I:
1)performed multiple tests,
2)reformated a 1000 times,
3)even putting 20gb of data just to make sure.
Turns out that it is authentic and it works perfectly on my girlfriend's htc BalckStone it also worked when I installed NAND (which i later removed due to insufficient memory).Ive been searching for days, I think its a windows mobile issue, any tips??
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LOL you are way to funny man as you said "I just bought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc" and then on top of that "Turns out that it is authentic".
I am guessing you got this card from eBay? If thats the case then its fake ill tell you why as there is no Kingston 32GB Class 6 card ATM. My best bet is you do extended data testing on it and verify the content to make sure its not corrupted. But if I was you I wouldn't do any of this as ill return that POS, why take chance with your data? Also NEVER buy memory cards via eBay or else you will be pwned with notorious chinese fakes.
But for those who actually thinking about buying the legit Kingston 32GB Class 4 microSD read below and think twice.
STHNS said:
Here this might be helpful to you.
Code:
df /dev/mnt/sdcard
File system: FAT32 (0x0c)
Used space: 16.0 KB (16,384 bytes)
Free space: 29.8 GB (32,073,891,840 bytes)
The data below is the actual IOPs from System (USB: Standard-A) to Device (USB: Micro-B) via USB (USB 2.0/SD 2.0). I am not using any type of card reader for this test as we only want the actual data rate of the card itself natively while its mounted in the device.
Subject: Kingston 32GB Class 4 (4MB/s) microSDHC.
Sequential Test Data (Block Size = 1024KB|0 Fill = 0x00)
Read [MB/s]: 13.07+11.72+13.11=37.9/3=12.63
Write [MB/s]: 4.080+3.339+1.592=9.011/3=3.00
Sequential Test Data (Block Size = 1024KB|1 Fill = 0xFF)
Read [MB/s]: 13.07+13.10+11.61=37.78/3=12.59
Write [MB/s]: 3.659+2.618+3.607=9.884/3=3.30
Mode: Low level R+W+V initialization
Data volume: 30588MBytes
Patterns: 18 sets, 8 of "walking one", 8 of "walking zero", 55h, AAh
Writing speed [03:24:28]: 2.49 MByte/s
Reading speed [00:44:20]: 11.5 MByte/s
Burst write: 4.0+4.0+4.0=4.0 MB/s
Burst read: 10.0+9.0+9.0=9.33 MB/s
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It's class 4 but it's very expensive.. too much money for just a SD card

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Memory Card Benchmarks 2gb v 16gb

All,
Just thought i'd let you know the benchmarks I got from the exisiting 2gb card and a new 16gb card I've bought.
The card I've bought is the new Sandisk Class 4 Ultra micro sdhc which cost me £50 from Amazon.co.uk. I was a bit sceptical at first as the 2gb seemed quite fast so wondered what class it was as it doesn't say and I didn't want the new card to be slower. But I went ahead and bought it anyway as i needed the space.
Both cards are formatted to fat32 with 4096 of allocation
So, CrystalDiskMark benchmarks...
100mb file, 3 passes...
Code:
100mb file Sandisk 2gb Sandisk 16gb
Read Write Read Write
Sequential 10.67 6.639 19.93 16.57
Random Write 512k 10.55 1.261 19.52 2.634
Random Write 4k 2.822 0.010 3.984 0.026
Speeds are in MB/s
Quite a bit faster than I was expecting, so quite happy about this. I know there will be some hardware limitations in the phone so it can only read / write at certain speeds, but for taking pictures, it can save the images quicker and thats a plus for me. Plus the reading of data in music player etc...
Hope it helps some people
nicelad_uk said:
All,
Just thought i'd let you know the benchmarks I got from the exisiting 2gb card and a new 16gb card I've bought.
The card I've bought is the new Sandisk Class 4 Ultra micro sdhc which cost me £50 from Amazon.co.uk. I was a bit sceptical at first as the 2gb seemed quite fast so wondered what class it was as it doesn't say and I didn't want the new card to be slower. But I went ahead and bought it anyway as i needed the space.
Both cards are formatted to fat32 with 4096 of allocation
So, CrystalDiskMark benchmarks...
100mb file, 3 passes...
Code:
100mb file Sandisk 2gb Sandisk 16gb
Read Write Read Write
Sequential 10.67 6.639 19.93 16.57
Random Write 512k 10.55 1.261 19.52 2.634
Random Write 4k 2.822 0.010 3.984 0.026
Speeds are in MB/s
Quite a bit faster than I was expecting, so quite happy about this. I know there will be some hardware limitations in the phone so it can only read / write at certain speeds, but for taking pictures, it can save the images quicker and thats a plus for me. Plus the reading of data in music player etc...
Hope it helps some people
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quite an impressive hike in write speeds.
I did wonder about the transcend class 6 they have for £55 but then I realised it said 2-3 months expected delivery !
In the end I bought the PNY 16gb card from play for £26 it's supposed to be a class 4 I'll benchmark it when it arrives.
quite impressive
congrats mate for the new card
However, i guess it makes more sense if the larger card volume was a bit slower!
Anywayz, doesnt the bigger card have any negative effect on the battery in terms of consuming more power to mount the storage volume?
Interesting - I have a 16Gb Class 6 on it's way - should be here next week. I'll try and run the benchmarks for it and see if there is much difference.
would be nice if someone could try the class 2 sandisk 16 gb
how did you do the benchmark?
fards said:
quite an impressive hike in write speeds.
I did wonder about the transcend class 6 they have for £55 but then I realised it said 2-3 months expected delivery !
In the end I bought the PNY 16gb card from play for £26 it's supposed to be a class 4 I'll benchmark it when it arrives.
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PNY card class 4 - where from?
I too have a class 6 16GB card on it's way and I will post my bench's as soon as it gets...
I won't buy a higher one than my 8GB one till a 32GB is released -.-
gavinfabl said:
PNY card class 4 - where from?
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PLAY..
play.com here > >http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/11540450/PNY-16GB-Micro-SDHC-Memory-Card/Product.html
the article says class 2, the review says class 4. One of my friends bought one, his is class 4.
Obviously I won't know till mine arrives !
the PNY site isn't much help
http://www.pny.eu/products.php?section=product&categoryid=4&subcategoryid=54&productid=296
Sandisk 8gb class 4 test results (similar to the 16gb class 4)-
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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read : 20.268 MB/s
Sequential Write : 16.100 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 19.866 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 3.009 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 4.124 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 0.028 MB/s
Test Size : 100 MB
an idea for you all..... check your local cash converter/pawn shop. i found a lot of micro sdhc card in there.
got my self a samsung 8GB class 6 for 12.00 pounds ! (with 1 year warranty)
they also had a 16gb class 2 for 22 pounds.
Two more cards
I was using the Sandisk USB to MicroSD adapter that ships with Sandisk cards.
I get the feeling that this is limiting the benchmark results
I get
Sandisk 8Gb Class 4
Read Write
SEQ: 19.69 13.19
512k: 19.26 2.337
4k: 3.601 0.021
Kingston 16Gb Class 2
Read Write
SEQ: 19.61 6.729
512k: 19.39 1.091
4k: 3.567 0.024
Sorry guys, but I don't get it. If you buy a card to use it with your Leo these tests are pretty irrelevant. I tested myself several cards, 2GB, 4GB and 16GB, class 2 and 4, both in my PC using ATTO benchmark and in my Leo. I came to the conclusion that a class 2 micro SD card is plenty fast enough when reading/writing with the Leo, so what is the point of spending a little fortune on class 6 cards? The Leo is no high-end DSLR you know...
Using happily a 16GB Sandisk that I purchased in my local PC shop for about 35 Euros. The Leo peaks at 5.2/8.6 MB/s write/read with this card. It did exactly the same with a class 4 4GB Toshiba card and a 2GB class 4 Kingston card. Tested using ATTO Disk Benchmark v. 234 on a core i7 system running Windows 7 64 bit OS.
In my view, the ATTO benchmark is reat because it gives you a speed snapshot at different file sizes, not just the peaks. I wonder what file size is used when manufacturers clasify their cards. Let me tell you, when transfering files smaller that 1 KB, they're all bloody snails, from class 2 to class 12!
atomic_dude said:
Let me tell you, when transfering files smaller that 1 KB, they're all bloody snails, from class 2 to class 12!
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I hear that, took ages to delete Igo8 off the SD card with all those small files
I prefer the faster cards, say class 4 or even a class 2 if it can perform like this current class 4 because I don't just use it in my phone. I use the card reader and transfer music / videos / pictures etc and with the clip battery cover, it only takes a minute to hot swap.
I know what you mean though, the phone does have limitations which make the cards only work to a certain speed, thats the same in most devices.
All in all though, nice to get some comparisons on here for people who want to know before they buy
16gb card came from play today.
It is class 2, clearly marked as such, so either they are sending out from different sources or something is up.
Either way it's a pretty quick card, I'll benchmark it later on
I was waiting for a 32gb card to be released but that doesn't look like it is going to happen any time soon...
So I am buying a 16gb card. I am going to be using the card in my phone only. Out of these 2 cards which would recommend -
16gb Kingston class 4 or a 16gb Peak class 6 (for a couple of pounds extra)
Part of me wants to go for the class 6 for the speed (but will I really notice it in a phone?) but on the other hand Kingston is a well known brand and I have never heard of Peak.
Thanks
What would you say is the minimum class that i could get a decent experience when playing music/movies and launching apps?
A class 2 card would do the job nicely.
Thanks, will probs get a class 2 16GB one
fards said:
16gb card came from play today.
It is class 2, clearly marked as such, so either they are sending out from different sources or something is up.
Either way it's a pretty quick card, I'll benchmark it later on
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Took your advice and bought the 16gb one you recommended from play too in the hope it was Class4. No idea what Class it actually is but its definately quicker than the previous 2Gb, and 8Gb cards I had in it! - I can tell cus when I wizz through the photos in landscape mode they appear almost instantly whereas the other cards took time to load them up. or maybe thats cus of this new ROM - I'm not sure.....hmmm....

32GB microsd cards coming soon?

Since I've bought my Omnia II I've been looking forward to getting a 32GB microsd card which the device claims to support. Only problem is that they don't exist yet and I can't find any information on when I can expect them to be in the market, or how much i'll be expected to shell out for one.
Anyone else holding out for a 32GB card? 16GB is a lot, but not nearly enough to hold all my music, let alone having room left for taking photo's/videos.
hopefully in a few months ,according to this http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/13/samsung-announces-64gb-movinand-flash-32gb-microsd-card/
I wouldn't hold out for anything...
Matt174e said:
Since I've bought my Omnia II I've been looking forward to getting a 32GB microsd card which the device claims to support. Only problem is that they don't exist yet and I can't find any information on when I can expect them to be in the market, or how much i'll be expected to shell out for one.
Anyone else holding out for a 32GB card? 16GB is a lot, but not nearly enough to hold all my music, let alone having room left for taking photo's/videos.
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32GB microSDHC has been "coming soon" since 2007...and we're STILL waiting.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180478266772&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:AU:1123
SanDisk 32GB class II microSD, anyone tried?
technillion said:
32GB microSDHC has been "coming soon" since 2007...and we're STILL waiting.
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The new crop of microSD cards are getting ridiculous storage capacities for something this small - step back 16GB microSD cards, the 32GB cards are coming to town. SanDisk just might be the first to release microSD cards of this capacity.
By the way, this is the Swan song of microSDHC - they are capped at 32GB capacity. Coming to replace them will be the microSDXC variety (XC stands for "extended capacity").
Getting back on topic, SanDisk will release the world's first 32GB microSD cards next month and their price is expected to be 200 US dollars (150 euro), which obviously includes he early adopter's fee and the bragging rights that come with it.
We're joking of course, but 16GB microSD cards from SanDisk can be had for as low as 40 bucks - buying a phone with a hot-swappable card slot sounds like a good idea, doesn't it?
But if you absolutely must have one, you'd need 200 dollars by next month when these cards start shipping.
Source 200$?? LOL,,LET OBAMA PAY FOR EVERYONE OF THEM
SanDisk Launches 32GB MicroSDHC Card
Nazar78 said:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180478266772&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:AU:1123
SanDisk 32GB class II microSD, anyone tried?
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i use "SanDisk 16GB class II microSD" very fast, no problem.
Hai everybody, i am a new member to forums, so i am intereseted
and want to gain knowledge on this topics..........................thank u
I'm using SunDisc 32 Gb class 2 without any problem. It is not very good for watching films from it because 2 class (slow for film streaming with high bitrate), but for data, photo and music it is very nice. I copy film from card in to internal (8 Gb) memory and watch it.
32GB micro SD class 10, the best!
be carefull about sd
supersaiyanx said:
32GB micro SD class 10, the best!
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Not all micro SD class 10 have the same speed my friend.
class 10 card means that meets the minimum requirements of class 10 of SD Card Association protype, which is 10 MB/second
in fact some quality class 6 cards may give you speed more than 10 MB/s, while cheap - low quality class 10 will give you just 10 MB/s or even worse theoretically 10MB/s under perfect weather ect condintions.....
par example samsung sd class 10 plus gives you up to these
• Speed Rating Speed (read) : 24MB/s
• Speed (write) : 21MB/s
which i think worth the few extra usd.
same brand's class 6 cards give you
Speed (Read) 17MB / sec.
Speed (Write) 12 ~ 13MB / sec.
which is much faster than low quality class 10
So you should rethink about class 10 now
Yeah i agree.
My Class 6 Sandisk transfers at 10MB/s beating my Class 6 32GB Gskill transferring at 6 MB/s max.
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Can the HD2 benefit from class 6 SD? Or is it a bottleneck >Class 2?

I ordered a class 6 16gb card to replace the slow-ass class 2 8GB card I had in my HD2.
First of all I couldnt find the format sd tool in my energy rom (1st July) so I had to format the card using vista while the HD2 was connected in disk drive mode. THAT TOOK OVER 1 HOUR.
(Is there a cab file to install the "Format SD Card" tool for the newer energyroms?)
Anyways after formatting (Fat 32, 16KB cluster), I started to copy my 1.4GB sd backup file to the card using the same method as above (disk drive mode)....
My maximum write speed was 2.7MB/sec. Average 2MB/sec.
Class 2 speeds????
After restoring the backup, which took forever, I ran spb benchmark on the card and was gutted to get slightly lower results than the old class 2 I was replacing.
Can the HD2 make use of anything faster than a class 2 card?
Has anyone here tested a class 6 or even 4 card and found good write speeds (~6MB/sec, or ~4MB/sec)?
Does it sound like I have bought a lemon (class 2 labelled as class 6)?
I have spoken to the seller and he is adamant that they ARE genuine class 6. Reckons he tested some of the batch in TrueHD cameras which will not accept <Class6. Seems genuine and some of his feedback states that the cards are Genuine class 6. Which leads me to think that the bottleneck could be the HD2... Does that sound likely?
I'm waiting for a microsd USB reader to arrive so I can test the card outside of the HD2, but Until I can do that... can anyone tell me if a class 6 is wasted in a HD2?
The strange thing is that when browsing photos/wallpapers etc, the thumbnails ARE loading maybe 3x quicker than my old class 2. So I'm pretty confused about this one.
Can anyone shed any light here? Feel free to post benchmark results/screenshots etc.
Thanks in advance.
can anyone PLEASE answer this ^^^?
Is there any point having a class 6 card in the HD2 instead of a class 2 or 4 card?
there is a thread in the accessories section have a gander in there, I no this is Q&A's but lots of talk about mem cards in the accessories section mate
Cheers mate, I'll take a look.
I will move this thread there. I also recently bought a Class 6 card and and have seen a huge improvement in media reading and over all performence.
I get 4-5MB/s both for reads writes with my 16GB class 6 card in disk drive mode.
Thanks zelendel and kilrah.
kilrah said:
I get 4-5MB/s both for reads writes with my 16GB class 6 card in disk drive mode.
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That is exactly the kind of data I'm looking to compare.
Whith my 'class 6' Im getting just under 3MB/S WRITE and under 6MB/S READ when using the HD2 in disk drive mode.
If I use the card in a USB 2.0 reader I can get around 5.5MB/S Write and ~11-13MB/S read.
Based on this alone would you say my card is a class 6 or not. I'm beginning to think it may be a class 4 re-labelled.
Picture browsing etc is faster with my class 6 but all benchmarks indicate it is identical speed to my genuine Kingston Class 2.
What do you guys reckon, Should I send this card back for a refund???
Well if you're getting 5.5 and over 11MB per second with a card reader then we can safely assume it's class 6. The bottleneck is something to do with the phone, rom, cable or simply the phone doesn't like this particular card etc...
EDIT: Test your class 2 card with the memory card reader and see if you get similar results.
ez2remember said:
Well if you're getting 5.5 and over 11MB per second with a card reader then we can safely assume it's class 6. The bottleneck is something to do with the phone, rom, cable or simply the phone doesn't like this particular card etc...
EDIT: Test your class 2 card with the memory card reader and see if you get similar results.
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Thank you for helping me clear things up.
Comparing the 'class 6' and the 'class 2' transfer speeds is where I really get confused here.
Transferring a ~700MB .Avi to and from SD using a reader:
Kingston Class 2 8GB:
Read 12.5MB/s
Write 5.4MB/s
Unbranded Class 6 16GB:
Read 12.5MB/s
Write 6MB/s
So, from this, would you say its safe to assume:
1. The class 2 card is a good one, performing at almost class 6 speeds.
2. The class 6 card is 'Genuine' and shouldnt be returned.
3. There is a bottleneck when using the HD2 as a card reader/disk drive. I should be getting more than 2.5mb/s write speeds in this mode.
4? Does 12.5MB/sec sound close to USB 1.1 speeds? could my reader or even USB port (Vista laptop) be another bottleneck?
Once again thank you for helping me make sense of all this.
At least I now know that the 16gb card doesnt really need to be returned.
Can you give me your oppinions on the above?
Well class 2 means you should be getting a minimum 2MB/s speeds and class 6 means you should be getting a minimum 6MB/s.
Seems like you have a very good class 2 card.
More info here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
Your class 6 is performing to spec.
Personally I would never buy an unbranded card but that's me. A branded card may perform better than there class rating e.g. Your Kingston brand I've always used Sandisk personally...
I've just managed to drum up enough funds to get myself a HD2 and now looking to upgrade my HCSD card to 16GB. To get the "right" class I tried to find the spec on the SD interface but I cannot find anything and the best data I can find is that I shouldn't waste my money on unbranded devices, I would always buy a SANDISK device for something I relied on! For data and communication!
People seem to get appropriate speeds for the class of device they have, if they are branded and sometimes if unbranded. However, there doesn't seem to be anything better than class 6 results debated or given. Is it a VERY rash assumption that the fastest the HD2 interface can go is Class 6?
Chris
Does this mean its not worth getting 32gb cos its a class2
& theat would make the phone slower cos lot more stuff on it
& will take more loading time & play Videos lagy ?
anyone useing 32gb ?
Thanks
My experience was positive with higher class micro SD.
At first, I used 8GB micro SD bundled with my HD2 and didn't notice improved loading speed. Later, I changed it with higher class one, same 8GB, with same manufacturer, Sandisk. Higher class one has name "Ultra" on it. Now with changed SD, loading became WAY faster. "Wow" I realized the higher speed of CPU of HD2.
My 2 pennies.
NEVER EVER buy unbranded memory cards!
Keep an eye on Sandisk cards only and even prefer them to Transcend and Kingston.

MicroSDHC 32GB C2 or 16GB C10?

I was thinking about upgrading from my current Sandisk 16GB c2. As many of you know Sandisk is out with there 32GB c2 MicroSDHC which is selling for $100 by Verizon. But if you look on ebay you can also find other 32gb c2/c4 MicroSDHC from TopRAM and Centon. Now I personally have never heard any of these company so I am very spectacle.
Now my question is which would you go with 32GB c2 or 16GB class c6/c10? To me its storage vs transfer rate.
1) Sandisk 32GB MicroSDHC Class 2 = $100
2) Kingston 16GB MicroSDHC Class 10 = $135
Clearly you should really been far 16GB storage even as decided to use even go want to do look more like 32GB transfer rate?
FYI 16gb class 10 Kingston is $98.99 over @ newegg and if you look hard enough u can find it around $79
I am not sure what you are saying but some claims that the Sandisk 32GB C2 they get around 5mb/s write. So IDK ATM as Kingston 32GB Class 6 is selling for $700 on ebay WTF? Last time I check they didn't even have 32GB class 2, could be fake who knows.
sti-06 said:
FYI 16gb class 10 Kingston is $98.99 over @ newegg and if you look hard enough u can find it around $79
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I am aware of that as they been had it for sometimes now but I was more leading to 32GB but who knows if I do decide to go with 16GB I might go with C10 from Kingston.
But has anyone tried TopRAM 32GB Class 4 or Centon 32GB Class 4? If so is it thoughly tested via R/W IOPs and fully chunking the card.
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I am aware of that as they been had it for sometimes now but I was more leading to 32GB but who knows if I do decide to go with 16GB I might go with C10 from Kingston.
But has anyone tried TopRAM 32GB Class 4 or Centon 32GB Class 4? If so is it thoughly tested via R/W IOPs and fully chunking the card.
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You cant go wrong with ScanDisk
its a safe bet
ilordvader could you test the R/W speed of your card and post back.
So after searching and reading many threads in various forums I came to the conclusion that even class 6 is an overkill so class 10 is out of the question other than bragging rights.
Now has anyone used Transcend or A-Data? they seem to be selling at Newegg so they can't be questionable unknown like TopRAM or Centon which I never even heard of until I was searching for MicroSDHC.
Anyone recommend any 16GB class 6 cards? I am still unsure on not ordering SanDisk 32GB Class 2 as storage is high but the speed is low. As majority of user who running Android port do recommend getting anything over class 2.
Extreme candidates:
Sandisk 32GB MicroSDHC Class 2 - $100 < Storage
Kingston 16GB MicroSDHC Class 10 - $135 < Speed
Are these the only reputable 16GB Class 6 candidates?
A-Data 16GB Class 6 - $53.99
Transcend 16GB Class 6 - $62.99
Lexar 16GB Class 6 - $69.99 < Questionable; produce inferior products
Has anyone heard of these company before?
Centon 16GB Class 6 - $58.99 < Questionable; but listed under Newegg
3C_Pro 16GB Class 6 - $44.99
TOPRAM 16GB Class 6 - $44.99
Team 16GB Class 6 - $44.99
i bought this. Komputerbay 32GB MicroSD SDHC Microsdhc Class 6. £88, which was preety steep.
i get read speads of around 3.5 mb/s and write speeds of 4.5 mb/s, i cant find my 2 speed to compare but it does seem quicker.
though the web site gaurantees minimum 6 mb/s write speeds.
it was amazon so i though it would be ok.
edit.
just tested it again i am getting 6 mb/s read speeds now.
johnwalk did you thoroughly test the card? by formatting and filling it up fully with chunks? if you can confirm its overall performance then I might also order it. Can't wait for other vendors to make it as I need it now. On class 2 card it takes like 30min to just move around 4.5gb now that's way to long for me as I'm always on the go, but thanks for your reply as ill look in to that company.
I don't want to spoil anything, but my HD2 just destroyed my 8GB Sandisk card. 'Luckily' this was not a $100 card, but still.......
Are you shure you want to spent that much, or did you never have your previous card(s) being destroyed?
Wish you goodluck anyway
i just formated it normally the filled it up with music and video still got two gigs left im like a dog with two tails i dont know what to listen to first lol. but the tests i done with it was when it was 28 gigs full only had it two weeks and at first it was slow, especially when you went into the music player it took a few seconds to update but hey a lot of files to browse but its been ok the past few days, but im now at the stage where i dont plug it into my computer anyway i just access my pc and transfer albums by wifi takes about a minute an album, any video usually gets streamed anyway, but wanted a bigger selection when i go on holiday next month.
def recomend this card thougth the first few days i thought i should have gone for the class two, im now happy with it now it all working properly.
I'm at work now and in an hour when I go home ill thoroughly look in to this card and post my finding. As I never even have heard of the company and if I like it ill post feedback here so others can buy it with confidence.
Far as flr goes how did HD2 destroy your card? corrupted the data? or the flash device is unreadable fully? BTW I never needed an flash card before as this is my first smartphone. Also I was welling to spend $750 few months before HD2 was officially deployed in USA. So I'm not worried about $100.
PS: Also have an eye on HD3 as the spec is 90% accurate from my guess after looking at the specs. So let's see what happens as I don't want a device which may have 2 versions, hence EU-Leo512 and EU-Leo1024.
off topic but im seriously looking into the new batch of android tablets which are just coming out now, maybe 7" or 10"
HyperNode said:
I'm at work now and in an hour when I go home ill thoroughly look in to this card and post my finding. As I never even have heard of the company and if I like it ill post feedback here so others can buy it with confidence.
Far as flr goes how did HD2 destroy your card? corrupted the data? or the flash device is unreadable fully? BTW I never needed an flash card before as this is my first smartphone. Also I was welling to spend $750 few months before HD2 was officially deployed in USA. So I'm not worried about $100.
PS: Also have an eye on HD3 as the spec is 90% accurate from my guess after looking at the specs. So let's see what happens as I don't want a device which may have 2 versions, hence EU-Leo512 and EU-Leo1024.
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Hope the HD3 is for Att this time
I've got up to 14.7 MB/sec on my 16GB Kingston Class 10.. and my phone works soo smooth now!
Compared android sliding of homepage on my 2GB Class 2 card and my 16GB Class 10 card, and there is some lag with the 2GB card, and none at all (100% realtime) with the 16GB card..
So, personally I'd say; save some exrtra bucks and go for the 16GB Class 10 Kingston one!
@HyperNode
There are several threads here regarding SD cards being destroyed, or whatever description is given to it.
From one moment to another you get the message that you're card has to be formatted. If you accept it, it says something like (only) 30 MB being available, which doesn't get formatted. Your card can no longer be seen by your HD2, nor by your PC or any other cardreader (afaik)
I´ve never had this problem before. It looks like a specific HD2 problem.
Either with or without a combination to a specific brand or card.
I'm very curious about your experiences.
Please keep us updated.
Thanks and goodluck!
Same here. Mythen hd 2 just destroyed my SD card des SYstem ago
It happened already bevor, Thatcher i couldn't See Thema data anymore , but nie i Cantel even Format it anymore
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Which type of memory chip?

Hello. I bought this phone last week and I absolutely love it. I've been searching the forums and can't wait to upgrade Android and install apps. This is my first android phone and I like how it can be customized. Before I do anything, I want to purchase a memory chip for the phone. I want to install and run apps from the chip but unsure of which to get. What size, brand, and class do you recommend? I have a 8gb class 2 from my old phone. Is that good enough? I'm thinking about getting either a 16-32 gb. Thanks.
I have a 8GB Sandisk Class2 for ~12€ from eBay. Works perfectly, even with Apps2SD.
I think a memory card class 4 or higher is reasonable!
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Hello. I bought this phone last week and I absolutely love it. I've been searching the forums and can't wait to upgrade Android and install apps. This is my first android phone and I like how it can be customized. Before I do anything, I want to purchase a memory chip for the phone. I want to install and run apps from the chip but unsure of which to get. What size, brand, and class do you recommend? I have a 8gb class 2 from my old phone. Is that good enough? I'm thinking about getting either a 16-32 gb. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13021193&postcount=10
I'm using a 16 GB Class 6 (14 GB free memory and 700 MB for Link2SD).
I bought a Class 6 because i heard that there might be some problems with Link2SD/App2SD and Classes less than 6...
I haven't any problems with it -> Ebay 40 €
If you are going to install a custom ROM then I would be careful about using a 32Gb card as I have heard of people having problems with them. As vqt907 has said, I would go for at least a class 4 card.
I have a Kingston 8GB Class 2.
Works very fast, also with app2sd.
16 gig speed 6, with two adapters USB and normal memory card size for 25 pounds from Amazon....works well....d
MY ANDROIDSKY
Ps get sd speed increase from market it's a must.....d
MY ANDROIDSKY
I was considering upgrading my SD card from a class 4 to a class 10, for the speed improvement. So, I first tested my card to see what it's current speed was.
My card is an LD ( class4 8GB, bought off the street in China:
Write: 11.7 MB/s
Read: 18.0 MB/s
If my understanding of speed class correctly, this is class10 speed, not class4.
So I tested my Chinese "Kingston" - mostly likely a "ghost shift" chip, also class4 8GB:
Write 7.1 MB/s
Read 14.7 MB/s
This is class6 speed, not class4.
So, if you buy counterfeit chips in China (or online from China), you can get a class10 chip for very cheap, I paid $13 for my 8GB card. Just test the speed before you buy.
So check the speed of your card before you buy a new one.
typci said:
...So, if you buy counterfeit chips in China (or online from China), you can get a class10 chip for very cheap, I paid $13 for my 8GB card. Just test the speed before you buy.
So check the speed of your card before you buy a new one.
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... and check out if there is the right memory on the chip
16 gb - class 6
best money-performance ratio .
You will not need anything more .
A proper branded Memory card like Sand disk, Transcend, Kingston and so on.
Never get fakes or non-branded ones as a 99% chance of pre broken risk is at your slide (personal experience)
A class 4 or higher would be reasonable.
I've been planning on buying a new sd card since the default 2gb is waaaay to small and I've got a few questions.
My current write/read speeds are 7.0Mb/s~ and 12.6Mb/s - which class is that?
How big is the actual practical difference between let's say, a class 6 and a class 10 card?
look like class 6, class number is write speed in MB/s. btw, there is no reason to buy class 10 duo very slow pc>phone>pc transfer rate. I can get more then 2-3MB/s (cable, wireless)
bataya said:
look like class 6, class number is write speed in MB/s. btw, there is no reason to buy class 10 duo very slow pc>phone>pc transfer rate. I can get more then 2-3MB/s (cable, wireless)
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I get 25MB write/35MB read on my Transcent 8GB C-10
25MB on 10c card? How do you test speed?
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bataya said:
25MB on 10c card? How do you test speed?
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"SD-Tool" on phone (slower) 16MB write 24MB read
And "H2Testw" on PC which have me the readings. [nVidia USB 2.0 Hi-speed @ 480Mbit/s]
Very nice card ;ooo but only 25 mb ;c

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